Talk:List of European countries by area

Isle of Man

The Isle of Man is a country in Europe. Does anynone know why it is not on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aff3458 (talk • contribs)

Feel free to add it. πr² (talk • changes) 17:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Isn't the Isle of Man a self-governing British Crown Dependency? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

-takes three minutes to actually check- ... Yep. The Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey are Crown Dependants, which in simple terms means they're a special kind of colony that (each) have their own local governments, but the king/queen of England is still the head of state. All three are geographically within Europe, but are not part of the EU, and possibly not the EEA. It's quite likely that when total landmass is calculated, the figure given for the UK includes all the outlying islands such as these. If it doesn't, we're still no more than about 800 square kilometres adrift within ten million. That's accurate to within eight hundredths of one percent. Most statisticians would be quite happy with that :)

Overall it might be more accurate to include the UK as, instead, "Great Britain"? Unless this would exclude Northern Ireland of course. GB + NI? British Isles (excluding Eire)?.

...man, it's just a big old mess, isn't it. :-/ 193.63.174.211 (talk) 15:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

(A further check - the listed area for "United Kingdom" on this page is some 1210 sqkm larger than the supposed area given on the actual UK article page... which excludes the dependencies. I presume therefore we have the ~800 sqkm of IoM, Jersey and Guernsey included, plus Gibraltar and any other random pieces of British territory within the European continental plate that we may otherwise have forgotten about, making up the additional 400 sqkm (a rather minor patch of land, equal to a square about 12 miles on a side, or in other words the metropolitan area of Birmingham as bounded by its orbital motorway system...) 193.63.174.211 (talk) 15:27, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

France area too big

Quote: "Note: Some of these countries are considered part of Asia as well. They are marked with an asterisk (*) and only their European area is mentioned." If we're only mentioning the European areas of countries, then France should be after Ukraine and before Spain. The European area of France is actually 551,695 km sq (see Metropolitan France) and not 674,843 as the article says. 188.74.118.37 (talk) 19:27, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Note incorrect

The note says that countries with asterisks are part of the EU. Where the EU is understood to be the European Union, these countries are not part.

I have made this clear; it was an error. Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:35, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I think the footnoting system needs some serious work. For a start, it's current incarnation seems to suggest that all the balkan / former-yugoslav states are "partly in asia", which is completely wrong. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 11:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

OK, I've now made those changes. States which are not part of the EU get asterisks, those which have any kind of geographical incursion into Asia are now italicised, with some overlap. The choice of which one was which is entirely arbitrary and was driven mainly by which option required the least editing of the existing text (which, incidentally, extended to adding asterisks to e.g. Norway and Switzerland, which are not and never have been part of the union). Also, I've just realised I've somehow landed on the Simple English wiki, which was entirely unintentional ... I hope the errors that were on this page were limited to the SE version alone rather than having been copied over from the regular-english one, so I don't have to go and edit THAT as well.

Mind, however, that I have not been able to verify that the europe-only geographical areas given for each eurasian state are correct, nor did I think to verify the fully european ones either... I will have to trust that the original author at least got THAT right, because it's not a metric commonly given in the other individual countries' wiki articles that were my source for the corrections. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 15:12, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Cyprus

Cyprus is a member of the EU, and therefore Europe. That means the Republic of Cyprus, which represents the Greek Cypriot community. Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:35, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Kazakhstan

"Kazakhstan is a part of Europe and Turkey is not."

- Enough internet today.

Ireland listed twice

Ireland and Republic of Ireland (same country) are both listed twice, each with different areas...

Russia including Crimea?

Why on earth is there an area given for Russia+Crimea? It's annexation hasn't been recognised by the international community. Malick78 (talk) 14:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)