Talk:List of religions

Agnosticism

Agnosticism is not a belief but is instead the absence of belief.

"Joke" religions

That name is pretty insulting to some people, it should be changed

Section on joke religions

How many of these are notable? Discordianism, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and perhaps the Church of the Subgenius deserve their own articles, but I wonder how many of these fall under WP:NOT. Kansan (talk) 22:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Eckankar

Eckankar is not on this list. Frogger48 (talk) 04:51, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

New Articles

Hello. I am adding on some new articles on this list. You could help to add on to these articles where needed, if you can, by looking at the links posted on the individual articles or by getting info from the corresponding English Wikipedia article. You can also make articles about religions that are not on the list and add them to it. Frogger48 (talk) 18:39, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

The list of religions regarding a European religions section with Wicca note a "New Age" subdivision regarding Wiccan traditions native to the Americas -- primarily the United States. There are some articles on the traditions that redirect to a related article. For example, Masonic redirects to Freemasonry as a temporary link to better understand the subject. It seems the articles inspired these traditions. Aidemus007 (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Yoruba Religion

Also, Yoruba religion should be linked to this list. Frogger48 (talk) 00:06, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Satanicism

Satanicism doesn´t exist. --Johnjohn01 (talk) 17:57, 25 January 2019 (UTC)Johnjohn01

Changing Indigenous Religion to Ethnic Religious section

Indigenous (ethnic, folk) religions also including Iranian religions. Doremon764 (talk) 23:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Temporary Changes

The changes I made on New Age and List of Religions: European Religions are temporary and should be adjusted according to the best of knowledge. I just do not wish for an amateur edit. Thank you. Aidemus007 (talk) 15:44, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Oops! I goofed. I mentioned a European religion I mistakenly spelled "Dacia" not knowing the article about Dacia being a Roman province that is now in parts of Hungary, Romania and Ukraine (see Dacia). I'll continue my research. 2603:8081:3A04:E600:B873:9064:3A23:534F (talk) 20:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Aidemus007

Criteria for inclusion?

Hello all, As I see it, this listing also exists in other wikipedias, and has probably been around a long time. I do however ask myself if we can come up with criteria for inclusion. I would propose something like:

• Well accepted branch of a mainstream religion.
• For "sects"/"cults"/"splinter groups": There's independent media coverage, or there are independently verifiable numbers. I am mostly thinking of the "end-time sects", where at some point the leaders decide to end it, and many are killed, in a more or less arranged massacre (and perhaps a small group of "survivors" starts over).

I would also propose we remove (prune) branches entirely made of red-links (that is: 2 or more levels of red-linked entries). What od others think? Eptalon (talk) 16:42, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

@Eptalon I agree. These changes make sense and would definitely clean up the list. I would also suggest list members that are red links but don't have an existing article should have some kind of reference. I'm not sure if that's a good idea but it's just a thought. There needs to be some kind of criteria in order to keep the list from growing to the state it's in right now. Philipnelson99 (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

I realize my suggestion of independent reference is very similar to point two yours :) Philipnelson99 (talk) 22:28, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

We also need ot find a way to distinguish between relevant, historically important movements (eg. the Hussites, or the Old Catholic Church), and more short-lived sects such as People's Temple, the Movement for the restoration of the 10 commandments of god, or the Fundamentalist Latter-Day-saints. While we want the first ones, we don't necessarily want the second ones. What od you remember of the FLDS, were there was a massacre a few years back - the media coverage on the masacre, and possible cases of child abuse, or the actual teachings of these groups? - If its just the media coverage, we likely don't need the movement. Eptalon (talk) 22:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Look at Cateogry:New religious movements, and ask yourself, which of those youd like to see on this list... Eptalon (talk) 22:50, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Definitely agree on those points! I guess now we just need to set specific criteria for this specific list? Philipnelson99 (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I also agree. I wrote the list of European religions but felt that the branches in red-links would clutter the space, so I decided on plain lettering. It's up to you all to decide if this edit is worth trying. Thank you. Aidemus007 (talk) 09:04, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

I had to make a minor edit on the list of European religions and Neopagan NRMs, and that is Wicca. The European faith is pronounced "wick-uh" while the Neopagan witchcraft is pronounced "wish-uh." You are free to modify the list. Thank you. Aidemus007 (talk) 01:07, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

My mistake. Neopagan witchcraft is spelled "WICA," not "WICCA." We accidentally added a C to the name. Wicca is an independent religion and is not Neopagan. Experts of witchcraft say Wicca is anything but witchcraft. As a matter of fact, we must be careful of how we write an article. Thank you. Aidemus007 (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

I think a red-link in he list is better than to have it just sit there in plain text. Yes, this is Simple English, the community is smaller, but perhaps someone comes along, and says "yes, I can summarize that in 5 sentences in Simple English", and there you go, that's the start of the article. But still, focus on the bigger movements, for now. Eptalon (talk) 19:24, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your input, Eptalon. I will remember that. Aidemus007 (talk) 19:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

There is a lack of verifiability here. Rather than just adding links based on your own opinions, please create articles (or add content to existing articles) with reliable sources. And the list of links to pages like "Atlantis", "Freemasonry", "Mayan", "Pleiades" is completely meaningless. It doesn't show any sign that these are actual religions. Freemasonry is definitely not a type of Wicca and I'm pretty sure it's not a religion. You will also have to show evidence that "Wica" is different from "Wicca". Lights and freedom (talk) 19:34, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

This list definitely needs a lot of cleanup. If I just look at "Catholicism": There's the Roman Catholic Church, which has a few Churches it is in full communion with (Called "Eastern Catholoic", usually). The "Old Catholic Church" (split over the dogma of the infallibillty of the pope, I think in the 19th century). Then With a big stretch, you have the Anglican Church (and perhaps the Old Catholics), but both are seen as proptestant. I have never heard of "traditionalist catholicism", yes there are more traditional forces inside the Catholic church, but they are not a movement on their own. I also haven't heard of a "liberal Catholic Church". So before anything else is done, this list needs cleaning up. Every name zhat stays on the list needs at last one reliable reference. Eptalon (talk) 19:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

You can say that again! The list needs cleaning up since most of the links are red. Aidemus007 (talk) 22:36, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

@Aidemus007: Red links don't necessarily need cleaning up on this wiki, unless a decision has been made to include only things that have articles here. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:19, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I have the evidence in Wikipedia Simple English (and Wikipedia in general): Gerald Gardner never mentioned the term "Wicca" in his books although he called witches "the Wica." Wicca is from the Anglo-Saxon for "wizardry" as opposed to Wica/Wyche, from the Anglo-Saxon wicce, or "witchcraft." We have the spellings wrong, so consider that, my dear. Aidemus007 (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

I am nt a linguist, but both EnWP and DEWP have the new religious movement as Wicca (two c). That's a discussion for the talk page of Wicca though. Eptalon (talk) 00:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Tell you what: I did some research on the name "Wyche" and it turns out to be Middle English for "witchcraft." Like Wicca, Wyche is also pronounced "wick-uh," making them both homophones, which are two words spelled differently but pronounced identically. It seems the word for witchcraft is from the German wick or "bend." I'll see if I can write an article of this "Wyche" unless there is an article with the surname with that spelling. Aidemus007 (talk) 20:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I created the article. What do you think? Aidemus007 (talk) 21:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, it might have been like that,but at the moment, it reads too much like a personal essay. You need to find some sources, otherwise it might pass as a personal essay. Eptalon (talk) 22:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with @Eptalon, without sources it doesn't mean very much. Philipnelson99 (talk) 22:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Just being a therapist. I have taken a religious studies course when I was in my college senior year and the professor mentioned this Wyche and taught a bit of it. She said it is easily confused with Wicca (homophones) and the practices are strikingly similar. I'll modify my article. Thank you. Aidemus007 (talk) 23:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)