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List of regions is gone[change source]

I have removed the list of Scottish regions. They were used by government between 1974 and 1995.

Some of them still exist today (*). Others were "artificial" and were not used after 1995.

Since this is a simple article, I think it is better to leave out the list.

(*) Mainly the regions that were based upon older regions (such as Fife).

Fourohfour 16:27, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Update[change source]

I'm doing a major revamp of the article. A work-in-progress article is located here, in my sandbox. Any changes you want to make to my sandbox copy, feel free. ← κεηηε∂γ ^(talk) 10:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its now on the Scotland page. ← κεηηε∂γ ^(talk) 13:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sports[change source]

I have changed the part about football as Gretna and Raith Rovers are not the 'important teams' in Scotland. I have instead mentioned Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee United.

I feel this is more NPOV as these teams are by far the most successful outside the old firm.

Fair enough, I meant important, as they did well in European fixtures. No worries. ← κεηηε∂γ ^{(talk) (wikiproject collaboration)} 14:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Writers+[change source]

would be good to add add'l besides actors,politicians like writers and other notables ...as time permits...certainly Robert Burns, James Watt, Adam Smith, Robert Louis Stevenson, and James Maxwell.--Billymac00 (talk) 03:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the suggestion. As you know best who is notable enough to add, perhaps you could do so? Openstrings (talk) 03:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I actually think that the entire list is unnecessary. There are too many notable Scots to put in the article. This type of list would be better for a smaller region. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, but I think a paragraph briefly mentioning people who were very influential would be better than the existing tables. Openstrings (talk) 03:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anything is better than the tables, agreed. Just don't the list is necessary, especially on an article like this. It's like putting a list of notable Americans on "United States". It's better suited for a city/county (US). Griffinofwales (talk) 03:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and took the liberty of removing the tables. If anybody objects, feel free to revert. Kansan ([[User

talk:Kansan|talk]]) 04:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments from 86.155.115.178[change source]

Change for the fourth paragraph[change source]

"Even though Scotland is not independent, throughout history it had a separate legal system and a unique culture. Since 1999, Scotland has had its own parliament. However, many things are still controlled by the Westminster parliament in London, England. Some people in Scotland want to have independence again."

This paragraph says that Scotland has its own parliament when in actual fact its a "devolved" parliament with in the United Kingdom. I would like to change this by adding "devolved" before the word parliament. We could also link *devolved* with the suitable wikipedia article about devolution in the United Kingdom.

Another thing that I think needs immediate attention is the part where it says "London, England". This is giving a false impression that some how England rules over Scotland. The change that I would like to see is "many things are still controlled by the United Kingdom parliament in London", this would replace Westminster with United Kingdom and give a better view of the governance in the U.K. There is also no reason for the word "England" to be mentioned because we are highlighting its the UK parliament in London.

"Some people in Scotland want to have independence again."

Also the above quoted from the paragraph is far too simplified and I think could be worded much better. — This unsigned comment was added by 86.155.115.178 (talk • changes) on 23:01, 27 March 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I've restored your changes. Goodvac (talk) 23:15, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Change to the last part of fourth paragraph, agreement?[change source]

"Some people in Scotland want to have independence again."

This quoted above does not fit in well at the end of the fourth paragraph, I would like to put forward that we remove it from the end of the paragraph. If anyone has any suggestions to change it so it does correspond with the rest of the paragraph, then please write what you think would be suitable here but I think deleting it form the article is the most suitable solution.

David Cameron under Alex Salmond in the Leaders Section=[change source]

I feel as if David Cameron has a higher priority within Scotland than Alex Salmond, obviously since David Cameron is Prime Minister and Alex Salmond only being First Minister, does anyone disagree to it being changed so that Cameron is on top of Salmond? --86.155.115.178 (talk) 11:12, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It says here when "leader" is defined "A leader is someone who has the authority to tell a group of people what do to.", I'm sure David Cameron has more Authority, would nice to see it changed, I think I'll try and change it. --86.155.115.178 (talk) 11:12, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"National Anthem", It's not Scotland's official national anthem[change source]

in brackets should be (Unofficial) example; National Anthem: Flower of Scotland (Unofficial)--86.155.115.178 (talk) 11:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Changing name of Flag[change source]

It's not actually called an "Official Flag" there for it would not be Factual,the name "Flag" would be in order only.--86.155.115.178 (talk) 20:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Languages[change source]

The official language is not English, Scots and Gaelic, it's only English. Scots and Gaelic are Regional languages, --86.155.115.178 (talk) 20:24, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

not a country[change source]

scotland was not a country it was a state

Doesn't seem quite right[change source]

I'm not happy with: "Since 1999, Scotland has had its own parliament, but it is not as powerful as the British parliament in Westminster. Many things are still controlled by the United Kingdom parliament."

The Scottish parliament is created by and subserviant to the national parliament. It's just like a large local council. I think the entry neeeds to be rephrased to make this clear. i.e. that it's a way of devolving some powers to local people.

"The Scottish flag is blue with two white diagonal crosses (called a saltire)." This isn't the Scottish flag. It's only the cross of St. Andrew. Scotland's flag is the union jack - the same as for the rest of the country.

The same goes for the "anthem" entry. Scotland's only anthem is God Save The Queen - the same as for the rest of the country.