Talk:Semen

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Complex[change source]

Tagged as complex per readability test at http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/readability1.4.py?page=simple%3ASemen - US Grade level > 8 on all scores. Please refer to the guideline on how to write Simple English articles. --Matilda (talk) 19:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Wikipedia:How to write Simple English articles#Think about your readers" says "The language is simple, but the ideas don't have to be." I thought I was quite careful in creating sentences that are simple. I'm wondering whether the article shows up as complex because of the anatomical and physiological terminology used, which is unavoidable. For example, in the lead there is this sentence: "This probably allows the sperm in the semen to move through the vagina and into the woman's uterus and Fallopian tubes to try and fertilize an ovum (egg cell)." The sentence itself is not complex, but uses the words uterus, Fallopian tubes, fertilize and ovum. Can you point out some specific examples of sentences that could be made simpler? — Cheers, Truth's Out There ^–talk– 22:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using this tool, that sentence scores:

Flesch reading ease score: medium 60.7
Automated readability index: high 13.7
Flesch-Kincaid grade level: medium 12
Coleman-Liau index: low 9
Gunning fog index: very high 18.5
SMOG index: high 15.2

This sentence:

This probably allows the sperm in the semen to move through the vagina and into the woman's uterus and Fallopian tubes. The sperm may then be able to fertilize an ovum (egg cell).

scores

Flesch reading ease score: low 77.3
Automated readability index: low 7.1
Flesch-Kincaid grade level: low 6.6
Coleman-Liau index: low 7.7
Gunning fog index: medium 12.7
SMOG index: medium 11.7

Making long sentences shorter - without being ridiculous is a help. Two things are going on travel and then fertilisation - give the 2 activities a sentence each. I am not interested in rewriting the article or even the sentence but feel free to work on it. --Matilda (talk) 03:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures in the article[change source]

This is dirty, and the pictures should be changed. — This unsigned comment was added by 84.9.164.167 (talk • changes).

The picture of the ejaculating penis is unnecessary and gratuitous for this article. Removing it is not a matter of censorship. The picture is clearly an attempt by someone to put a picture of their member online. This is indicated in the title. Apologies by the way for removing the picture for a third time, it was an accident. The second time I did it because I thought the first time it was removed by a bot.— This unsigned comment was added by 84.9.164.167 (talk • changes).

I agree with you that it doesn't add much to the article. However, instead of edit warring over the article, why don't we discuss it here, reach consensus, and then take the appropriate action? Regards, Javert (talk) 23:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it's unnecessary when there's already an image. Majorly talk 23:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I explained I wasn't warring, I really thought that the first time it was reverted by an automated process as I didn't put a comment in, and the message told me not to edit without putting a message. so I edited and put a message. When this didn't show up in the result (because it was reverted so quickly) I tried to do the change again as I assumed it had not worked for some reason. Hence my discussing it here. So lets see if anyone speaks in favour of the image. — This unsigned comment was added by 84.9.164.167 (talk • changes).

The image isn't necessary in my opinion. Per Majorly and Javert. иιƒкч ? 06:33, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) The image would be better suited to the Ejaculation article, so I have removed it. Regards, Javert (talk) 06:33, 12 September 2009 (UTC) How can anything about your human body be too dirty to look at? I think "poor men", what message are thez getting?[reply]

Please add attitudes in Ancient Persia and Egypt too[change source]

I have no source, but i would like to see a broader list of cultures. For example, attitudes to semen in ancient Persia and Egypt would be interesting, as they are very definitive cultures for smaller subsequent cultures. Thanks for anyone that can contribute, JOV 89.223.189.213 (talk) 12:39, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Writing style[change source]

It honestly sounds like this page was written by a 7th grader. "What it is made up of," really?