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Very good articles are the highest status of articles at Simple English Wikipedia. In order to become a very good article, there are certain criteria that the article must meet. These criteria can be found at Wikipedia:Requirements for very good articles.

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=== Article name ===
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State why the article should be a VGA. ~~~~

Greek wrestling

Greek wrestling (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

Oregonian2012 (talk) 03:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Giselle

Giselle (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

One of the greatest ballets in the repertory. Written with an eye on the Basic Word List. Oregonian2012 (talk) 10:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Selena (movie)

Selena (movie) (change · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete)

The article has been copy-edited and simplified by two editors. I just overlooked the entire article and did some more c/e. If there any other issues I'll fix them right away :D Best, Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 01:00, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the Reception section, is the term "fairy tail" what you want or should it be "fairy tale"? Oregonian2012 (talk) 19:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Best, Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 20:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think some words in the lead should be linked or explained: released, starred, produced, certified, etc. Some readers may be children, young teens, or ESL adults. These words might be unfamiliar to them.
- Done Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Problems in the plot section: "They are ask to see a promoter"; "Los Dinos are then discriminated for being Americans"; "She then notices her father and was curious to know what he was doing"; "Abraham is amazed and starts a family band, and names it Selena y Los Dinos". The article needs a copyedit to pick up on these sorts of bloops.
- I think I fixed all remaining issues. What do you want me to change for the sentence that talks about them being discriminated? I can't think of an alternative. Best, Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The plot is too long. It's not necessary to include every detail. A good summary for this movie should be no longer than the first paragraph of this section.
- I tried trimming more of it. Can you look at it and tell me what is unnecessary? Best, Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The pic of Lopez can be cut. We can't see her face so the pic is of little value here.
- Fixed Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hope this helps! Oregonian2012 (talk) 11:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review! Best, Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 13:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The plot veers between present and past tenses: "Selena and Chris begin to meet secretly and they eloped." Choose one or the other but remain consistent. I remember reading somewhere that plots are to be written in the present tense. There are many words in the text not on the Basic Wordlist that should be explained or linked or Wikitorified like "booed". Oregonian2012 (talk) 12:15, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dead links and Dablinks. Osiris (talk) 00:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- All Done. Best, Jona yo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 16:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I still think the plot section could be reworked and needs to be trimmed. I don't think this article is the "stuff" of VGA because it has not attracted scholarly notice. It is basically a plot and some quotes from reviews. With the controversy over the volume of VGA nominations, I'm wondering if our editors should spend their time reviewing articles that have so little importance to the scholarly community. This is a good article and deserves space here but I wonder whether we should be spending hours and hours pushing it through VGA. Oregonian2012 (talk) 18:47, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 One of the greatest ballets in the repertory. Written with an eye on the Basic Word List.  [[User:Oregonian2012|Oregonian2012]] ([[User talk:Oregonian2012|talk]]) 10:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
-=== Le Dieu bleu===
-:{{la|Le Dieu bleu}}
-In 1911, ballet producer Sergei Diaghilev intended ''Le Dieu bleu'' to be a showcase for Vaslav Nijinsky, the brilliant Russian dancer of Polish descent who had yet to perform a major role with the Ballets Russes. Sadly, the ballet was a flop. Critics thought Nijinsky's talent had been wasted. Because the ballet was a flop, there is not an enormous volume of information on it, as there is for Diaghilev's successes such as ''[[Le Spectre de la Rose]]'' and ''[[Petrushka]]'' I believe this article is about as complete as such an article can be about ''Dieu'' while remaining encyclopedic. Thank you for your thoughtful consideration and feedback on it. [[User:Oregonian2012|Oregonian2012]] ([[User talk:Oregonian2012|talk]]) 20:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
-*'''Comments'''
-*Wikitory the words [[wikt:performed|performed]], [[wikt:betrayed|betrayed]], [[wikt:mediocre|mediocre]], [[wikt:insipid|insipid]]
-*:*{{done}}
-*"talent was wasted" - what does this mean?
-*:*{{done}} talent is linked and wasted is on the basic list.
-*Delink [[Paris]] and [[St. Petersburg]], you only need to link it them one time not two times
-*:*{{done}}
-*mediocre ---> mediocre ("ok")
-*:*{{done}} used 'dull' instead, it's on the basic list
-*"He hoped to duplicate the triumphs of these ballets" - not simplified
-*:*{{done}} gone.
-*[[Ida Rubinstein]] is a redlink
-*:*{{done}} gone.
-*"He conducted museum research and studied the arts of India, but his choreography was uninspired." - not simplified
-*:*{{done}}
-*"Both ballets received cool receptions." - not very good English, you mean positive receptions? Wikitory [[wikt:reception|receptions]]
-*:*{{done}} changed.
-*"He privately blamed Hahn's music." - not simplified
-*:*{{done}}
-*"In the beginning, he felt compelled to accept Hahn's mediocre score because the composer had wealthy connections in Paris." - not simplified
-*:*{{done}} used basic list
-*"Decling the score may have alienated potential backers" - not simplified, wikitory [[wikt:decline|declining]]
-*:*{{done}}
-Try getting someone to simplify and copy-edit the article. It seems as though you were the only contributor. Best, [[User:AJona1992|<font color="red">Jona</font>]][[Special:Contributions/AJona1992|yo!]] [[User talk:AJona1992|<font color="maroon"><sup>Selena 4 ever</sup></font>]] 23:28, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
-*[http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py?page=simple:Le_Dieu_bleu Dablinks to fix] [[User:Osiris|Osiris]] ([[User talk:Osiris|talk]]) 00:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
-*:*{{done}}
-*I left a review on the article's talk page. -[[User:Barras|<span style="color:blue; font-family:Bookman Old Style">'''Barras'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Barras|<span style="color:red; font-family:Bookman Old Style">'''talk'''</span>]] 21:35, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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