Talk:Borderline personality disorder

Is anything sourced?

Hi all, I know this article is based on the original article, but we still need sources. If I removed all the information in here that did not have a source, it would wipe the article, so I am going to leave it for now. However, I am going to go through with sources in short order, and I encourage all who are working on this article to please do the same. Sources can be found from the original article, available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder

Thanks, Firecatalta (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Domestic violence

Most borderlines are or have been the victims of domestic violence. Their inability to cope on their own makes them vulnerable to being further victimized, as they are very reluctant to end their relationship and live alone. Most borderlines are from dysfunctional, chaotic backgrounds and do not have a supportive family to help them. Frequent perpetrators of DV are often separated by motive and/or mental disorder, with antisocial being the most common and borderline the second most common. Of the PDs currently in the DSM, antisocial is the most strongly connected to being a perpetrator of violence, with borderline the second most strongly connected. ASPD and BPD are comorbid with each other and substance abuse disorders. Most prison inmates have ASPD, BPD or both. Borderlines have a rate of self-harm higher than for any other mental disorder. Although they are much less likely to use violence against others than they are to self-harm, and most borderlines are not violent, they nevertheless are much more likely to commit crimes that the average person, partly because most of them have addictions. See en:Domestic violence. Jim Michael (talk) 14:28, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

This is interesing. IMO, you can add something to the article here, provided you find scientific articles that say so, which you can then use as references. For my part, I would prefer open-access articles, but that is just me. --Eptalon (talk) 15:06, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

It is difficult to work out what qualifies as a reliable source for medical articles. Some info & sources I've added to medical articles on en have been removed due to not being considered reliable enough. Jim Michael (talk) 17:16, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Published as an article in an accepted scientific publication? - I am not a doctor, or researcher in medicine, so I could not tell you what journals qualify... --Eptalon (talk) 17:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Behaviour leads to arrest?

I'm concerned that the potentially misleading sentence "because of their behaviour, many are arrested and imprisoned" is (like the rest of the article) unsourced. It's the sort of statement you'd want to be sure of before putting down, otherwise it can be pretty damning to people with borderline personality disorder. In my own (admittedly unprofessional but nonetheless fairly extensive) readings about the topic I haven't really come across this evaluation very much. - Althunyon (talk) 16:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

In what way is the sentence misleading? Borderlines have an incarceration rate that is several times higher than that of the general population. If you think the sentence can be worded better, please improve it. The article has had sources since long before you wrote your comment, so I don't know why you're saying that the article has no sources. It's strange that you've read about BPD extensively, yet are unaware of borderlines' high rate of imprisonment. I have added two reliable sources to the relevant section. Jim Michael (talk) 10:45, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the source, I was referring to the very salient lack of inline citations. I stand corrected. - Althunyon (talk) 16:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Problem with references

Currently, the article cites 9 sources (using the normal way of citation, that is ref-tags). These are numbered 1-9, as expected. However, there are many references in the text that reference sources higher than 9, numbered up to 36. If we want to stand up to scrutiny, a cleanup of these "phantom references" is needed. All references need to use the format of the first nine (that is named ref tags). --Eptalon (talk) 10:43, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

I started fixing some references; Apart from the intro, which is ours; the article looks like a more or less verbatim copy of the enWP article. On the one hand, this makes copying references easy, on the other it also means it is probably not what we want in the long term. --Eptalon (talk) 11:02, 12 October 2014 (UTC)