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The Dutch in Indonesia[change source]

I have just removed this:

The so called "Politionele Acties" took place; 100,000 Dutch-soldiers invaded Indonesia and killed (slaughtered) around 200,000 innocent people, mosty civilians.

This sentence is written to make the Dutch look as bad as possible, and as if poor Indonesia, with its 100 million people did nothing except sit there as helpless victims. The truth is that the Republican soldiers of Indonesia were a huge force with hundreds of thousands of fighting men. But they were disorganised, and they fought among themselves because of prejudice toward different racial groups.

This is not good Wikipedia writing. And it is not truthful writing, because it tries to make it look as if it was only the Dutch that killed innocent people.

Any article that describes what happened must also tell the fact that the Dutch did not simply walk over the Indonesians, because the Indonesians fought back.

If the article talks about the Dutch "slaughtering" innocent Indonesians, then it must also talk about the Indonesian Republicans "slaughtering" thousands of European nationals, people of Dutch Indonesian background, Chinese business people, and people from minority Indonesian groups. It must also say that the Indonesian Republicans "slaughtered" thousands of the Japanese prisoners of war, the soldiers who had surrendered.

Amandajm (talk) 10:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Indonesian History with emphasis on sujarto & slaughter of half a million indonesian "communists"[change source]

(Researched & Written in most part by Jan Paul Lary Lubek)


In 1602, the Dutch established the Dutch East India Company (VOC) and became the dominant European power. Following bankruptcy, the VOC was formally dissolved in 1800 and the government of the Netherlands established the Dutch East Indies as a nationalized colony. The first people that lived in Indonesia were the ancestors of the Malays, Javanese and other Malayo-Polynesian groups.

For most of the colonial period, Dutch control over these territories was tenuous; only in the early 20th century did Dutch dominance extend to what was to become Indonesia's current boundaries. The Japanese invasion and subsequent occupation during WWII ended Dutch rule and encouraged the previously suppressed Indonesian independence movement. Between 1942 and 1945 Indonesia was ruled by Japan. Two days after the surrender of Japan on August 15 1945, Sukarno, an influential nationalist leader, declared independence and was appointed president. The Netherlands tried to reestablish their rule and a bitter armed and diplomatic struggle ended in December 1949, when in the face of international pressure, the Dutch formally recognized Indonesian independence.

Sukarno moved from democracy towards authoritarianism, and maintained his power base by balancing the opposing forces of the Military, Islam, and the Communist Party of Indonesia. An attempted coup on 30 September 1965 was countered by the army, who led a violent anti-communist purge, during which the PKI was blamed for the coup and effectively destroyed. Between 1965-1968, at least half a million "communists" were slaughtered. The head of the military, General Suharto, out-manuevered the politically weakened Sukarno and was formally appointed president in March 1968. Official President Sukarno was deposed and placed under home arrest and surveillance until he died. Suharto's New Order administration was supported by the US government and encouraged foreign investment in Indonesia, which was a major factor in the subsequent three decades of substantial economic growth. Suharto was aware of the slaughter of "communists" but did not do anything to stop it thus making him complicit in the killings. United States, UK, Australia were also complicit in the slaughter. CIA delivered all sorts of information to the communist murderers because united States was afraid more Asian countries like Vietnam will become communists during cold war era. Indonesia's armed forces leader like Sarwo Edhie Wibowo & death squad leaders like Anwar Congo, Adi Zulkadry, Safit Pardede behaved as if they were killing "the communists" just for fun. This was also depicted in 'The Act of Killing', an award-winning 2012 documentary on the slaugher of Indonesian Communists. In July 2016, International Tribunal (court) ruled that Indonesia as a country bears responsibility for the slaughter. In 1997 and 1998, however, Indonesia was the country hardest hit by the East Asian Financial Crisis. This increased popular discontent with the New Order and led to popular protests. Suharto resigned on 21 May 1998. He died on January 27 2008, after being disconnected from life supporting mechanisms. In September 2000, an Indonesian court dismissed the Government's landmark corruption case against former President Suharto after an independent team of doctors declared him medically unfit to stand trial. The ruling was a major setback for Indonesia's democratically elected government, which sought to bring the ailing, 79-year old, former dictator to justice for human rights abuses and other crimes committed during his brutal reign of 31 years. This time, in turn, Suharto stayed home as bedridden invalid until he died.

In 1999, East Timor voted to secede from Indonesia, after a twenty-five-year occupation, which was marked by international condemnation of repression and human rights abuses. The Reformasi era following Suharto's resignation, has led to a strengthening of democratic processes, including a regional autonomy program and the first direct presidential election in 2004. Political and economic instability, social unrest, corruption, and terrorism have slowed progress. Although relations among different religious and ethnic groups are largely harmonious, acute sectarian discontent and violence remain problems in some areas. A political settlement to an armed separatist conflict in Aceh was achieved in 2005. Indonesia remains largely a muslim country and abortion remains illegal.