Talk:Labour Party (UK)

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Party Policies[change source]

Can someone put a 'Party Policies' section like their is on the Liberal Democrats & Labour Party articles.

--Jaffacakemonster53 (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Landslide[change source]

@Chenzw: Allow me to approach this a different way. Several reliable sources, including the Guardian, New York Times, Time magazine, and the Telegraph, describe the election as a landslide. It was one of the biggest victories since the 30s in British politics. I think it is reasonable that we also describe it as a landslide. IWI (chat) 13:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@Chenzw: I will agree here. Those sources aside, the event is specifically mentioned as an example of a landslide on the English Wikipedia. While no Wikipedia project is a reference or reliable source, it does provide a very good example in this case. Operator873talkconnect 17:53, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
My comments:
  • Neither word is on the combined Wikipedia:Basic English combined wordlist, but I believe the word majority is simpler here, partly because this use of landslide is figurative.
  • This use of landslide is political slang or jargon, both of which are good to avoid in the articles here. Just because sources use the word doesn't mean we need to, and landslide can be seen as emotionally laden.
  • I have not seen a definition of landslide in this context that mentions a specific margin.
  • Any election is won by a majority, so that word is probably unneeded.
  • We could just leave both words out. Since the percent of the vote is given, readers can form their own opinions about the margin.
In short, I would leave out both words and just say "with a vote of 59.5%". If we insist on using one or the other, I would use majority . --Auntof6 (talk) 18:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
I will not comment on the accuracy of landslide or not. But only on the simplicity aspect. The word "majority" would appear simpler. It is clear what it means. On the other hand "landslide" is a metaphor. Will someone learning English understand it as easily? I think not. Just have a look at the pages for majority and landslide to see that one has a clear meaning to "more people" and the other is normally a Geological event. If I was reading a page with "Landslide" and did not know what it meant, I may be tempted to look it up. And that may lead to more confusion. Desertborn (talk) 18:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
One thing to note is that there is an article for landslide victory, which does explain what it is with examples. Thought it would be worth mentioning. ~Junedude433talk 19:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
  • It's worth noting that wiktionary has wikt:landslide victory and could be linked. The simplicity is an argument I agree with however. IWI (chat) 18:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

I think it probably could be described as a landslide, but I do not think that this word should be used in the article. I agree with Auntof6, I think it is complex and emotionally laden. I reckon we should stick to the facts and keep it as simple as possible (see Auntof6's suggestion). If you want to emphasise the scale of the victory, add something to that effect (largest victory since X), and reference it properly. --Yottie =talk= 19:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

  • I also agree with Auntof6. Consensus to not use "landslide" or "majority". IWI (chat) 00:39, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
  • In any event it would need to be well sourced. Factually, the Conservative Party has an overall majority, which means it can form a government without help from any other parties. This has happened before without being especially notable. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:04, 27 July 2020 (UTC)