Talk:Odysseus

Vandalism

please edit out the childish nonsense part83.85.18.193 (talk) 22:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Done! --Kyoko 23:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

How

@Auntof6: How can you revert my last edit in this page? The fact/action of Odysseus being a kins of someone is always true in past, present and future. It's different from the fact/action of being a king of somewhere as this one may be of past tense. For example, Queen Victoria was a Queen of England. But, Queen Victoria is a British. Not "Queen Victoria was a British." Do you understand? Haoreima (talk) 07:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Even after 500 years later too, you are the a child of your parents! Not you were a child of your parents! Haoreima (talk) 07:32, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: First of all, calm down and STOP SHOUTING! Second of all, did you read my edit summary? It says "keep consistent verb tense". I understand your point about using present tense, but the tense should be the same in the whole article. If you're going to change it, change it everywhere instead of just in one sentence. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't know really: Odysseus/Ulysses is the hero of the Odyssey, by Homer. He also appears in the Illiad. There are between 5 and 10 other forms of the name in Greek, and 2-3 other forms in Latin. While the Greeks see him as cultured and good, the Romans do not. In his Aeneid (30s/20s BC), Vigil calls him cruel Odysseus (dirus Ulixes) or deiceitful (pellacis, fandi fictor). There also is the whole issue about analysis of the works, for example dating his return: there are 3-4 theories, with a dozen possible dates). So rather than discussing verb tense shouldn't we focus on extending the article a litte? --Eptalon (talk) 08:09, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: I didn't shout. Lol! And I don't have any courage to shout at you because you are my good pal! Well, in the equivalent article in general English Wikipedia, please check the tense of the verbs used. Besides, there's no such rules that all the verbs used in an article should be same. Because the facts and events to be described in an article might belong to many periods, including past and present. @Eptalon: What do you think? Let's all discuss together! Haoreima (talk) 08:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Will you agree "Auntof6 was an admin in Wikipedia. She performed very well in editing Wikipedia some time back. She was one of the most obedient admins in the wiki currently." Or "Auntof6 is an admin in Wikipedia. She performed very well in editing Wikipedia some time back. She is one of the most obedient admins in the wiki currently."? Haoreima (talk) 08:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I said I understood your point. I also agree with it. It's just that the tense should be consistent throughout the article. For things that are in the past at the end of the story, it's appropriate to use past tense. For things that are still current, like being married to Penelope and being the king of Ithaca, use the same tense. That's not a Wikipedia rule, it's a rule of writing good English. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:38, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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Citing this, it looks like works of literature such as Odysseus should be written in the literary present tense. Of course, the verb tenses have to be consistent. Past tense is normally used for historical events that actually happened. Etoza (?) 10:31, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Shouldn't we think about content, before we think about verb tense? - As an extreme, I add a list of bullet pointed items, then I don't need verbs and don't have the problem? --Eptalon (talk) 11:36, 1 August 2021 (UTC)