Talk:Operating system

Perpaps a link to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system

I scratched my head for along time before I realized i was in the simple.wiki

Patents / Copyrights?[change source]

I deleted this statement: "Because of Copyright Laws and Patents, operating systems can only use programs written specifically for them."

Not cited, not NPOV, off-topic, and completely subjective... not to mention, it's false on its face and irrelevent. 167.107.191.217 (talk) 18:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About "Reverted to revision 7028322 by ImprovedWikiImprovment"[change source]

The article was changed back by " 18:11, 13 July 2020‎ Auntof6 talk changes‎ 4,562 bytes -130‎ Reverted to revision 7028322 .

He said "better before". but I have a different opinion. The first paragraph is too long for users at Simple Wikipedia. A top explanation should be far better within two lines. This is a basic guideline for an encyclopedia.

As you pointed out "better before", please make it simple as possible. You can explain Operating System in details at main body. I think it is better way of editing. This is just only a advice for you. Best regards, --Green (talk) 16:32, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Green: I can see why Auntof6 reverted this. The title of this article is "operating system", so starting the article with "OS stands for Operating system" isn't really better than how it was before. IWI (chat) 16:35, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Than you, I understood. Then I would suggest as; "Operating System" is a basic set of various softwares which can operates a computer itself. But it seems to me he would not like that way, either. I do not edit this page any more to avoid trouble with him. Thank you. --Green (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is your choice, although it would be better to discuss this with Auntof6 before leaving it, which is why I pinged above. IWI (chat) 17:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My comments:

The opening paragraph before your change was not too long. There is no requirement that an article's intro be short, only that the language be simple.
Wherever possible, the first words in an article should be the title of the article. That was not the case with your changes.
Using "About" as a section heading is pretty generic and vague: better to just have the info there be the intro/lead.
The opening sentence you used had some grammar issues. Those could have been fixed, were it not for the other issues.

Hope that explains why I reverted. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:58, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Thank Auntof6, my comments are below:

I read the en:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section and similar one in JA-Wikipedia. It says that the lead is an introduction to the article and a brief summary of contents. So that I followed this style, but it is not required as you said.
I know the first word was different from the title, so it was my mistake.
Introduction part is very long, so I myself felt boring.
Of course, I knew there were grammatical errors.

By the way, here is a new sentence;

"""Operating System""" is a basic set of various programs which works a computer system.

I thank you for your comments as I understood reasons. --Green (talk) 12:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a better version of that sentence:

An operating system (or OS) is a set of computer programs which manage a computer system.

Reasons for my changes:

The words "operating system" should not be capitalized.
You usually mention the acronym or abbreviation right after the first mention of the term.
I removed the word basic because there isn't necessarily anything basic about an OS -- it can be the most complicated thing on a computer.
I think manage describes what an OS does better than works (and works doesn't sound right). Manage isn't in Wikipedia:Basic English combined wordlist, although manager is -- go figure.

Even with these changes, the lead can contain more than just that sentence. The MOS page you linked says the lead should be an introduction and summary, not just a definition !ike this sentence. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: My additional comments follows.

"OS" is considered a basic basic (or fundamental) software to function a computer, just as explained in dictionary. So in this sense, I used a word "basic", which does not relate at all to complicated works or not inside the system.

"work" has many meanings. I think "work" is usable as the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language tells "To function; operate". "operate" is included in VOA Word Book, too.

Thank you for my last posting. --Green (talk) 00:24, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]