Talk:Throw out the baby with the bath water

Select list of the idiom in use

These examples may be helpful? Should one or more be added to the article? --Tenmei (talk) 18:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

• en:Jay Presson Allen (1922–2006) was an American screenwriter. She explained in a 1972 interview with The New York Times:

"The trick in adapting is not to throw out the baby with the bath water. You can change all kinds of things, but don't muck around with the essence."

• In the article about en:Josh Lyman, a fictional character in the American television series, The West Wing, the President is cited explaining that Lyman would throw out the baby, the bath water and the bathtub in order to avoid letting the Chief of Staff down.

• In the article about en:Tenpole Tudor, a British punk band in the 1970s, the discography mentions a single record,

"Throwing My Baby Out With The Bath Water" / "Conga Tribe" – (1981, Stiff Records, BUY129) - UK #49

• In the article about en:Alan Kotok, one sentence explains

"Mikhail Botvinnik, three times world chess champion, wrote in his book Computers, Chess and Long-Range Planning that the Kotok–McCarthy program's "rule for rejecting moves was so constituted that the machine threw the baby out with the bath water."

• In the article about en:Mohs surgery, one sentence explains

"However, in recent years, a few surgeons attempted to throw the baby out with the bath water by claiming that Mohs surgery is no better than standard excision based on one study."

• In the article about en:Richard Brautigan, one segment explains

"When the 1960s ended, he was the baby thrown out with the bath water", said his friend and fellow writer, Thomas McGuane.

• In the article about en:Arbitration in the United States, one of the cited references is

David Sherwyn, Bruce Tracey & Zev Eigen. "In Defense of Mandatory Arbitration of Employment Disputes: Saving the Baby, Tossing out the Bath Water, and Constructing a New Sink in the Process", 2 U. Pa. J. Lab. & Emp. L. 73 (1999); n.b., abbreviated source in this legal citation format is the University of Pennsylvania Journal of Labor and Employment Law, Vol. 2, p. 73.

• In the article about en:Population viability analysis, one of the cited references is

Brook, Barry W.; Burgman, Mark A.; Akcakaya, H. Resit; O'Grady, Julian J.; Frankham, Richard (2002). "Critiques of PVA Ask the Wrong Questions: Throwing the Heuristic Baby Out with the Numerical Bath Water". Conservation Biology. 16: 262–263. doi:10.1046/j.1523-1739.2002.01426.x.

• In the article about en:Relativism, one of the sentences is

Relativists argue that this is a rhetorical trick, akin to claiming "you can't throw out the bath water without throwing out the baby too": denying absolute truths still leaves relativists free to be utterly and passionately opposed to torture.

• John Simon, the theater critic of New York Magazine, reviewed a 1983 play entitled Baby with the Bathwater by Christopher Durang:

"Theatrically, it may be all right to throw out the baby with the bathwater, but only if one did not first, in the writing, throw out the baby and keep the placenta."

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