Talk:Turkic peoples

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Edit war[change source]

So I reverted you back to what we call the "status quo", which means how it was before. I disagree with your claim that northern China is not part of Central Asia, when it very clearly is. I’m not sure why you’re so sure of this. Maybe you can explain? Thanks, IWI (chat) 11:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And either way, the Turkic people definitely come from Central Asia. Maybe they come from other parts too, but this is where they come from. Central Asia should certainly stay in the lead. IWI (chat) 11:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, sure. The most recent studies, which I have linked to your talkpage and which are also cited in the English version, support an origin fo the proto-Turkic peoples in Manchuria (Northeastern China), not Central Asia. Central Asia was inhabidated by Scytho-Iranian tribes. Several historians speak from an "East Asian agricultural origin" before the adaption of a nomadic lifestyle. The Turkic expansion from Northeast Asia into Mongolia and than Central Asia happend later. Additionally, your version has fringe inputs about a Caucasoid origin of Turkic peoples, when in fact they were/are an East Asian nomadic people. Recent studies link them to the Xinglongwa culture and the Hongshan culture around the Liao river in Northeast China (not northern China, but Northeast China). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples#Origins. This must be corrected, the current version is not supported by references. Best greetings.81.10.217.91 (talk) 15:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Additional note: Central Asia generally refers not to northern China. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia. Also it is not the original homeland of the Turkic peoples, while today it is predominantly Turkic.81.10.217.91 (talk) 16:00, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So how about saying they come from Central Asia and Northeastern China? I would be OK with that. IWI (chat) 01:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Cyprus[change source]

@Nalanidil: The correct place to discuss your changes is here, not my talk page. Northern Cyprus is not an independent state, at least that's what the international community says. The onus of showing that your other additions are relevant, is on you, see EN:WP:ONUS. --Rsk6400 (talk) 13:36, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly: This Article have to do with Turkic people and not with states who are accepted or not by whom ever. I include Northern Cyprus in this Article, because Turkish Cypriots, belong to the Turkic peoples.

Secondly: about the source I given, where is said that the Turkic people are descendants of the Oghuz Turks. This is an important Mythology of the Turkic people, if you dont know that, read about Oghuz Khagan.

What is your real Problem? Anti-Turkism ?

you reverted a provided source of Oghuz Turks, that the English Wikipedia accepted it, but you not? WOW...Who are you? But you reverted everything on this Article who is not in your mind, you do that same with other Users too.

Oh man... Nalanidil (talk) 15:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Anti-Turkism: Please read the talk page guidelines at WP:TALK. You called Northern Cyprus an "independent state", which is wrong according to the international community. If being descendants of the Oghuz Turks is an important mythology, or legend, you cannot present it as a fact. Rsk6400 (talk) 08:49, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My Godness...what should I answer you? ...the best: nothing ! and to be ignore you. Maybe you are Happy if you reverted any edit who you didnt like it. Maybe you havent other things who made you happy. Isnt it a pitty?

Anyway, if a reader want read about Oghuz Turks or Turkic people, in english language, there is the english wikipedia. Nalanidil (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]