Talk:Victoria line

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PVGA comments[change source]

That's all after a first look --Barras (talk) 21:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I only had a short look:
  • per annum: link (to wiktionary?) or replace with an English term.


Barras Pt. 2[change source]

  • On the Tube map it is a light blue colour. - not sure, but ptobably On the Tube map it is a light blue coloured?
     Fixed I think, I reworded it. Goblin 12:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • hump-backed - isn't really simple.
     Not done - No, it's not simple, but it's explained in the next couple of sentences. Goblin 12:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • There was also a proposal for an extension from Victoria to Fulham Broadway station on the District Line later but this was not included in the Bill. - before the but a comma?
     Fixed Goblin 12:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • Construction work began in 1962 on the Walthamstow–Victoria section. - I guess, that "The construction work began in 1962 on the Walthamstow–Victoria section." would work too. Sounds better to me.
     Fixed - Reworded the sentence. Goblin 12:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • The using of commas seems to me a bit odd like "on August 4 1967 to build"... (no comma?)
     Not done - Don't think this is needed, seems ok to me, see if anyone else comments on it. Goblin 12:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • rearranged - perhabs with en-dash.
     Fixed Goblin 12:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • In some cases this was achieved by placing the Victoria line platforms on either side of the existing station, while in others the Victoria line uses one of the older platforms and the existing line was diverted into a new platform. - absolutely too long.
     Fixed, split into two sentences. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • northbound - not really simple.
  • (with the Northern line) - why is Nothern line not linked?
    No need to overlink, it's linked above ("Northern line (Bank branch)"). Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • the same for (with the Piccadilly line).
    As above, though linked explicitly as "Piccadilly line". Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • narrower - simple?
    "Narrow" is on BE850, so this one should be ok. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • fitted - simple?
    Thought this would be simple myself, but it's not on BE850 or BE1500 so i'll wikt: it. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • In recent years, this has been remedied at Brixton (2004) and Vauxhall (2006) where an additional escalator has been installed in place of the fixed stairway. - should be with ref. and what is "recent years" in 10 years? not encyclopaedic.
     Fixed, removed the weasel words and added a ref. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • congestion - simple?
    Wikt:'d in the first instance, Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • stop to Herne Hill. Herne Hill station - poor wording. the second name should be changed to "it".
     Fixed - Reworded. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • However this would be expensive - there is a comma missing, I guess.
     Fixed - added comma. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]
  • overcrowding - simple?
    "Overcrowded" is wikt:'d above. Goblin 12:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]

--Barras || talk 21:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fr33kman's Review[change source]

Words and terms to be linked, inline explained or simplified

motif(s), ceremony, busiest, underground (is "underground" simple, "under the ground" is, but ...?), energy, metres, concept, proposed, proposal, extension, integrated, Minister of Transport, legend, Preparatory, non-descript, recesses, wikt:distinguish, peak period, articulated, wikt:overhauls, redevelopment, signalling, wikt:upgrade, budget, infrastructure, congestion, remedied, wikt:unserviceable, wikt:unsightly, wikt:shortcomings, campaigned, wikt:relieve, alternative, reversing loop, eliminating, justified, cost-benefit, wikt:overcrowding, duelling venue, Abstract, decorated & depot.

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Things to consider
  • Legend has it ... seems non-encyclopedic.
     Fixed - I got rid of it :). Goblin 20:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Kennedy![reply]
  • These humps allow trains to store gravitational potential energy as they slow down whilst going up the hill into the station, and release it when they leave a station and go down the hill. needs to be explained a bit better. It implies that some technological gizmo is storing the energy and releasing it rather than it being a design feature that simply uses inertia to go up the hill and gravity to increase the speed going down the hill.
    Possibly  Fixed, though i'm not sure... Goblin 20:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Kennedy![reply]
  • Yeh that looks good :). Thanks for the help. Goblin 19:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Chenzw![reply]
  • Legend has it that a person in the planning department said that "Victoria line" sounded "just right" at which point it was chosen as the working title of the new line. this needs a citation really,
     Fixed - I got rid of it :). Goblin 20:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Kennedy![reply]

That's about it. Good luck! fr33kman talk 01:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TRM's PVGA stuff[change source]

Okay, on top of the complex words Fr33kman's pointed out (so I won't point any more for the time being), some additional comments.

That'll do for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[change source]

  • "under-the-ground"? stick with underground and link it to an appropriate simple wiktionary article.
     Fixed
  • Deep Level in infobox should be Deep level.
     Fixed
  • "as they enter them and" perhaps just "as they arrive"?
     Fixed and also a tyop Pmlineditor  Talk 17:34, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is "Working Party" really simple?
     Fixed
  • "main purpose" - simple?
     Fixed
  • "necessary for construction was" - "needed to build it"?
     Fixed
  • "bill" or "Bill"?
     Fixed
  • Link construction.
     Fixed
  • "visited tunnel workings" not 100% convinced that "workings" is clear.
     Fixed possibly. Goblin 21:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Juliancolton![reply]
  • approval isn't simple.
     Fixed
  • For VGA, significant terms need linking so I'd expect to link Brixton Extension and Bessborough Gardens.
    Brixton Extension should already be mentioned in the article... if not i'll add in a section, it's certainly not significant enough for it's own article as it relates to this article. I'll look into it. Bessborough Gardens probably should be linked though... Goblin 17:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Chenzw![reply]
    Having to say a  Not done to this, I can't find anything relating to the Gardens except what's in my book, there's no enwiki article, and not being from Vauxhall I don't know much about them. Could probably be removed though... Goblin 20:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • "Preparatory work had already been carrying on at a site on Bessborough Gardens near to Vauxhall Bridge Road since May 1967 and on June 28 1968, Richard Marsh, then Minister of Transport approved the proposal to build a station at Pimlico.[6]" is a long sentence for simple English.
     Fixed Goblin 20:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Nifky![reply]
  • "was designed to try and get rid of" -> "to try to get rid of".
     Fixed hmwithτ 17:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is "terminate" linked?
     Fixed - Linked to wiktionary, but i've not created it as I know nothing about it :S Goblin 21:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Juliancolton![reply]
  • "although they are in fact, " -"in fact" is redundant here.

That's a good start...! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Images in table[change source]

It would be nice if we could make them "float" rather than making text have huge spaces between lines. hmwithτ 17:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how to do this... they used to be in a Gallery which imo was better as they could be seen more clearly, and it allowed for the variations, but this was removed per the first section on this page. I'll look for a better situation. Goblin 18:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC) I ♥ Shappy![reply]