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Question[change | change source]

How do you block someone ?

Administrator[change | change source]

Congratulations, you're now an administrator. I suggest you take a quick re-read of our policies and guidelines, and make sure you check your email regularly. If you ever need any help at all, you can always ask me or another administrator. Thanks, Archer7 - talk 16:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

well done. --vector ^_^ (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Congrats! -  BrownE34  talk  contribs  16:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Whoops, looks like you haven't added an email address to your account. I think I was probably supposed to check before I promote you, but would you mind adding one so that users can contact you for unblocks, and other users can contact you in private. Let me know if you have any problems or questions, Archer7 - talk 16:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, that's great let me know when it's added. Most emailed things can wait 24 hours or so anyway. Archer7 - talk 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Congratulations!-- Tdxiang 03:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
The email still isn't working. Under 'my settings', can you check that the 'Enable email from other users' box is ticked? Archer7 - talk 11:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Yup, that's working now, brilliant. You probably won't get a lot of email at all, but it's best to check at least once every 24 hours. Thanks, Archer7 - talk 14:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!! · Tygartl1·talk· 23:45, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Max Resist[change | change source]

If not Max Resist is notable, then none of the RAC bands exept Skrewdriver is notable. Fuck It!!!-- 20:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

sorry[change | change source]

Okay , you are also an admin? Thanks for dont blocking me, and sorry for the interrution! It was wrong of me to do this edits. You don't need to block me, i shall not do it again. — This unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) .

Thanks for the help on that manual and for changing that problem with the title. The only question that I really have (and can't seem to find in the manual) is how do I add things such as the "(band)" specification to the title of articles?

Thanks, Will — This unsigned comment was added by Willickers (talk • contribs) .

Thanks[change | change source]

Thanks for the help on that. — This unsigned comment was added by Willickers (talk • contribs) .

Getting in touch[change | change source]

You can delete this in two days when I check reply, but how to get in touch with you via private email, some things I can not tell you here. — This unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) .

Actually, I've just sent you an email myself, check it out please! It's some important info for you as our latest admin :) Archer7 - talk 19:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Note about email: I'm unable to check my email until 5pm CST each day but I'll respond as quickly as I can. (Stupid email filter at work...) · Tygartl1·talk· 19:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, that's fine. I don't mean to harass you about the email thing :) Archer7 - talk 19:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
You're not harassing at all. I'm just a little frustrated that I can't even check my email when I'm at work. Sigh. Oh well. :-) · Tygartl1·talk· 19:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
If it's a web page filter, they're fairly easy to bypass, but your work probably won't like that. You just have to check all the email services you can think of until you find one that isn't blocked. Archer7 - talk 19:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion:[change | change source]

You may write "I am an administrator on Simple English Wikipedia" on your user page. You are on this list: Wikipedia: administrators. Coffsneeze 19:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Question[change | change source]

I can't remember how what the guideline is for city names. I made some changes to a new article Norwich, England and I was going to add simple to the article on English. The article name there is simply "Norwich". I thought about moving the simple page so it was named the same, but couldn't remember what the norm here is. -  BrownE34  talk  contribs  16:33, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

On the English Wikipedia, Norwich is written. Coffsneeze 22:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Mkil Problem Again[change | change source]

Ok, if i said something borderline, well, it's withing the border... I told you 100 times this will happen, i am only deleting personal attacks, name callings, mkil broke all the rules of civility, Mkil deleted information on Marciano January 2 fight, Ingemar fight, etc. Mkil is very very uncivil, you told me on my talk page. Check mkil's page: He was warned on civility. Check everything. Look, He is doing everything a personal attack constitutes of. 66.99 was mine and then I was told to create an account over there by you, so I did, Freddy. I simply do not want Mkil to compare me to Curpos, Boxingguy and other, check my contributions. If you call people names, that is vandalism, such people should not be allowed here. Keep in mind Mkil caused problems on other wikipedia and with many boxing people, he has personal vandetta against many boxing writers. If you check my contributions I corrected mkil with dates and many other misinformation. But listen, he is not following policy, I am only removing name calling for which he has no right, ok, he was uncivil again, those comments must be removed, if you are to be neutral. Also, will you assist me with fixing Ingemar problem and dates, I gave all the details, mkil refuses to listen. Freddy 16:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

This user has a long history of disrupting the English Wikipedia. He migrated here, hoping to fly under the radar. Sean William has already warned him once about this [1]. MKil 16:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)MKil

Note, Sean warned me, true, but that was when he warned Sean I am Boxingwear or whoever, the bottom line is I DID NOT do anything wrong, it was mkil who calls people names, not me, he called me curps guy which I am not, I am not on vacation, I want to make this place a better place, I contributed and created beutiful biographies like: and so on, i did not move here from big wikipedia, i can always edit there if I wanted to. No, why should I fly under radar? Look at my contributions and look at the evidence like calling me curps, this shows mkil is totally uncivil and does not belong here. Everything I said, can be proven, look at link towards Rocky and Ingemar, all fits! Also in the link mkil provided, it says no edit wars, i stopped, i am not editing pages he destroyed, only name calling and comparing me to others, which is personal attack. Freddy 16:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I was confused. Curps was a Wiki editor trying to control BoxingWear/Vesa/GRP (who is now posing as Freddy here). I apologize for mixing Curps (a good editor) up with this guy. MKil 16:51, 7 May 2007 (UTC)MKil

As you can see, now he is apologizing for making mistakes and again using other names i am not, those names are part of his personal vandetta, he apologized because I provided the evidence, evidence that I can provide with others. Also, if somebody is good editor or not, that is up to others to decide and we are talking about big wikipedia this user accused me of 10 or more times, we are not talking about good or bad editors here, it's clear, once evidence is given, like CALLING ME CURPOS 1000 times, once I gave the link, he apologized, that is too late, he should have said that before giving the link, so he has no place here with his name calling. KEEP IN MIND, we are talking here about simple wiki, not the other wiki so let's concentrate on the problem at hand, as those things have no merits here, since nobody was ever suspende don simple wiki! Fine,I guess... just watch over mkil's edits in the future. Freddy 16:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

As you mentioned you were looking into this situation, here's a link to one of the many usernames this guy used on the big Wiki (where he has been banned quite a few times): [2]. MKil 17:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)MKil

I think you should remove all these things with names, it's not nice to be compared to somebody. I did check on the above user, seems he did lots of good things (again, i am not the one to decide) and his war was with those who blocked him, WHY? because of mkil. Exact situation here if wiki rules are followed by people who run this site, mkil deserves indefinite block. Of course! :Update: Thanks to mkil, Now, I followed some of the contributions of the above user and this is what I found out: Mkil made mistakes with Nino Valdez contender fight, he deleted December version, which is correct: and here's evidence, record of all Valdez fights and dates:
This image here was removed, mkil violated wiki policy by placing copyrighted material, it was removed the next day. Mkil made other mistakes as well with many other boxers, just email me anytime. Here's nice link against mkil, before particular user was suspended on big wiki, he warned everybody (and still suspended) against mkil: [3] Freddy 17:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Rocky Edit[change | change source]

Still lots of info missing, since I was reverted so many times, somebody else can fix it and contribute, if I touch it, Mkil will accuse me of more "vandalism". I did explain the mistakes on my and rocky's page. Good luck making it right (especially with details and facts) with mkil around. Again, I do not like being called vandal or names like curpos. My contributions are of good addition and standings here.

Freddy 17:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Cakes, Sweets, Desserts, Confectionaries, and More! Delicious![change | change source]

This page offers a list of cakes that can be added to cakes--Coffsneeze 22:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[change | change source]

Thanks! -  BrownE34  talk  contribs  13:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Blocked[change | change source]

As you can see from the block log, I have blocked User: for being rude/insulting (to you). I do not know what prompted the incivility warning you gave him/her on his/her talk page. In any case, rude people spil the ambiance. --Eptalon 19:41, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I warned him for being rude to user:ONaNcle. I didn't see that he responded to my note that "23rd Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Kama" was put up for deletion. I think you did the right thing. · Tygartl1·talk· 20:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Categories[change | change source]

Most of the category and template work was taken from the English Wikipedia. Also, Samuel Adams was a governor of Massachusetts, but also a member of the colonial assembly, so both categories should apply (that's how I designed the article at; I wrote the entire thing to FA). I assure you that the categories will contain more articles, and all that needs to be done is for the categories to be added to the appropriate articles. As for the categories within categories, well I ended up with a lot of redlinks, so I held out for the time-being. Once I expand the scope of my work, I can hopefully create a main category for these smaller sub-categories. Sorry about the birth-death categories; I was using a category from John Adams as a reference, and I thought that I was doing it correctly. In any case, thanks for fixing any of the mistakes I might have made. :) Nishkid64 22:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Btw, I believe I've seen you at before (I'm an admin there). Your name sounds quite familiar. Nishkid64 22:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Links to other wikis[change | change source]

I posted a note on Talk:Main_Page which needs sysop access to be handled. I just wanted to remind you to take a look at it. Huji 11:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome message! Actually I'm not that unfamiliar with wiki environment (I'm a sysop on a sister wiki) but I'm new to simple-English-only parts of rules and traditions. For example, I'm not sure whether this change is acceptable, or should be reworded. The data provided, which is sources and correct, is not in "simple" English as I know it ("..perceived with a power of..") but I'm not sure if I have a correct understanding of what we mean by Simple English here. Your advice is highly appreciated (and you don't need to post it on my talk page, right here is a fine place :) ).Huji 17:30, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I agree that the wording in places is not exactly simple. For that reason (and because it is well-sourced and is good information), your best choices would probably be to try to simplify the wording yourself or mark the article with this tag: {{complex}}. Here are links to a few pages that I found helpful when I first came here: Wikipedia:Examples of simpler English, BE 1500, and Wikipedia:How to write Simple English articles. Hope that helps! · Tygartl1·talk· 18:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Certainly. Thanks Huji 19:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The Exploited[change | change source]

About the Category, The Exploited is not from England but Scotland.--Nordic Flame 18:07, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Oops, my mistake. I've placed them in Category:Punk bands until we have enough British punk bands to require a Category:British punk bands. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! · Tygartl1·talk· 18:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Actually, that entire area is one article away from all kinds of category creation fun.. using the 3 articles is worth a category rule, we get Scottish bands on one more article, British punk bands on a non english, UK punk band, but if we get 2 Scots punk bands at the same time then we get a Scottish punk subcat but that only leaves 2 entries (both subcats) for British punk cat.. and at this point, my head explodes.. some days it would just be so much easier to say screw the need for 3 to make a cat and build the tree the proper way from the start rather than jury rig it waiting for enough entries to do what we know is right all along. -- Creol(talk) 05:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Editing[change | change source]

On my talk page you left a note about how I was not formatting articles correctly. I read the rules, I know now that I did not add categories. I understand that this is important know and wish to apologize to you for this hugeee inconvience. Anyway, Im not going to bother to add categories to every page I make, I do not work that way. Now, you, being an administrator, Im going to give yo two choices, you let me just be a good user and make well organized to-the-point articles without categories so we atleast have them down, because, seriously, if I were some Asian kid who could not read a lick of English, I sure as heck would not be worried about categories. Or, you can say that I must agg categories, and you loose a dedicated editor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 02:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

The IP address you wrote me from has not made any contributions. If you tell me where exactly I posted this comment (since it wasn't to the same IP address you just wrote me from) as well as which articles you have created, I would have a much better frame of reference to continue this conversation. At the very least, if you are not going to add categories, you could add {{uncat}} to the page so that it doesn't slip through the cracks and remain on here without categories. Just because you do not personally value categories does not mean that they are not an important part of an article. Thank you. · Tygartl1·talk· 16:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Believe me, I understand how categories are important to articles, but I would see more of a purpose for them on, not simple wikipedia. Anyway, that isn't my dessision to make. My username is Spax, just didn't bother logging in, sorry about that. If putting {{uncat}} suits you, then i'll do it. I just like being able to create articles fast to get that information out there, not bothering with thoes brackets every time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 02:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Of course you not wishing to take the 10 seconds to {{uncat}} an article (personally, I would prefer you did not categorize the article as that would definitely only lead to issues with it being in the wrong place or missing much needed categories, so taking the 60 seconds needed to categorize it correctly is out of the question) would take 10 seconds out of your article creation time rather than the 30- 90 seconds it takes from either Ty, Me or another admin to locate and correct the problem per article. Thankfully we have enough administrators here that forcing one of them to correct problems with editors knowingly refusing to do what it takes to create articles correctly does not interfere with all the work dealing with vandals and trying to correct other articles that are constantly fraught with errors from low quality good-faith editing. Then again, personally I would prefer to have that admin doing productive work at the cost of losing an editor with only 36 main space edits and 111 changes to their user page. That admin could have done a lot more beneficial work (could have double checked your cleanup of Second person article - you tried cleaning up Human rights two times and still missed a "you" in there) rather than spend that time following behind an editor that knows what they are doing is wrong and refuses to do anything about it. -- Creol(talk) 06:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

oops...[change | change source]

Sorry about this, you had already reverted by the time I realized what I had done... It wasn't my intention to mess up the template... I must be tired because I stil thouht I was at my talk page (and I know I should know better). Anyway, sorry again. Micke 18:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. · Tygartl1·talk· 18:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you![change | change source]

Thanks for helping improving my new articles. Sorry much so, if my English isn't barely understandable. --JustJacklen 00:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! Your English is just fine, by the way. Let me know if I can help you with anything. · Tygartl1·talk· 01:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the punctuation category. I wanted to create it, but I don't know anything about creating categories. Isis 01:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it needed to be done anyway. A lot of people have a hard time with categories--creating them, deciding which ones to put a page into, and all the other little details of it. Sometimes it's best to leave it for editors who have more experience with them. I know that's what I did at first! :-) · Tygartl1·talk· 01:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Alpha Kappa Alpha[change | change source]

Thanks a lot for helping to improve the AKA page on simple English. I am currently working to improve the article on the main English article. BTW, do you guys have FA articles here? Thanks Real96 09:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by FA articles. · Tygartl1·talk· 17:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I am sorry, featured articles, like on Wikipedia. Real96 16:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
We are currently in the process of trying to agree on criteria for "very good" articles. The current proposals are listed here and you can talk about what you think of the proposals here. You can look at the first few articles that have been listed as possible very good articles here. · Tygartl1·talk· 19:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Typesimple[change | change source]

Sorry. Thanks for being so nice and allowing me to use your contents thing. I think it's great and also thanks for changing a mistake! Typesimple 13:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Silly dilly willy[change | change source]

But i did it in the sandbox? --Secret agent with brown hat 21:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

administrative administrating administrators[change | change source]

Have some of you admins actually woked as admins the whole time since this wiki started? IS it the same rules for promotion here as at the other wikis- that is 4 months and 1000 edits? What count as an edit- do discussions like this count as an edit? I think it does not mean you must create 1000 articles?

Nonono, I don't ask to be an admin yet- I was just wondering :P --Secret agent with brown hat 21:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
The general rule is about 3 to 4 months and 1000 edits in the mainspace. Generally, edits to talk pages, categories, and templates do not count towards the 1000 edits. You certainly do not need to create 1000 articles - no one would be an admin if that were the case :-). I may be wrong, but I do not think that any of the currently active administrators have been an admin from the start of this wiki. · Tygartl1·talk· 21:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

All Quiet on the Western Front[change | change source]

Thanks for your help on this page. That person is edit crazy today.--DizFreak 17:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

A friendly anon message[change | change source]

How can I create an acount?Thank you- 19:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hehe,Thank you so much.Arnon Chaffin 19:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Adding "the" or "this"[change | change source]

On special:recentchanges we see this text next to the check box:

(Check box to see changes not in this namespace)

I think it should be changed to

(Check this box to see changes not in this namespace)

to make it more clear and easier to understand. As you know, this change should be applied through MediaWiki:Invert. Huji 17:38, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Huji 07:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you![change | change source]

Thanks for making a sidebar for me. Panda Bear 03:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Another request[change | change source]

I think the message shown on the botto of the IP userpages, can be made a little nicer in look, and a little more easy to differentiate from the content added by people to the page. Currently it shows as:

This is the user talk page for a user who is not using an account. Their IP address is used to identify them. IP addresses can be shared by more than one computer so anonymous users may get messages that are not meant for them. If you are an anonymous user and you are getting messages not meant for you, please create an account or log in.

I suggest this to be changed to such (more or less like En WP):

The change should be applied here. Thanks, Huji 07:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Template[change | change source]

i add the template, i come to english wiki and use the english wiki template. but in this not to template for i wanted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

I don't think I understand what you are trying to say. Unless the template is going to be used right away in a page, it should not be created. · Tygartl1·talk· 15:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Link Question[change | change source]

You left a note on my talkpage about adding links to articles in other languages. How do I know if these pages already exist? If they aren't, are they automatically created? Nancysing 20:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The easiest way I have found is to have another window open the English Wikipedia version of the article I am editing here. If you do it that way, you can easily copy and paste the interwiki from there to here. Then you can just add [[en:Article name]] to the list in the correct alphabetical spot. It also makes it easy for you to add [[simple:Article name]] to the English Wikipedia version of the article. Hope that helps! · Tygartl1·talk· 01:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tygartl1[change | change source]

Allow me to explain why yesterday was my first day "back on the job." I used to be quite active on the simple English wikis, but sometime last fall my workplace changed to a transparent proxy. From that moment on, I could not login to any wikis no matter what I did, including clearing my cache, etc. I didn't understand this problem, and no one could tell me what the solution was. Finally, a day or two ago, I found a reference to transparent proxies and the secure wikimedia server. I tried it out, and it works great! That's why it looks like I was not active for a long time, when in fact I was editing anonymously for most of that time.

Interesting that you should come to me with a comment regarding "Cat:Move to Wiktionary." I happen to be one of the principle people who pushed (about a year ago) to have SEWT serve the definition needs of SEWP. At that time we had one bureaucrat here who was opposed to the very existence of SEWT, much less its use as a resource. He was finally removed (13 Nov 2006) from bureaucrat and admin rights because of incivility (some to me, some to others, including admins) and abuse of privileges. He left this wiki and has never returned. I decided not to participate in the votes regarding that bureaucrat, and had decided to leave SEWP for a while, and then my login ceased to work, so I couldn't come back (other than anonymously) even if I had wanted to.

You may notice that my edits here have been mostly to the Wikipedia: namespace (one of the things I had been criticized for). In my case, this was not really a conscious decision, just that I wanted to help get the rules in good form so that the process could run smoothly. That's where I ran into my trouble with that bureaucrat, since he had his own ideas about how things should go here which he had worked right into the rules and wouldn't let anyone change, even though several things were stretching inventively how wikipedia generally works (and should work, IMO). He wouldn't even let me create the template "Disputed Policy" because I wanted to place it on a page that he was keeping me from changing. But I don't want to get into that here. In any case, I pushed hard to have SEWT be the definition-station for SEWP, among other things, and so I like it that you came to me first, though Brett is certainly a good admin to talk to also.

I think it is a great idea to make a link to "Category:Move to Wiktionary" in a prominent place on SEWT. Just as you said, it would make things much quicker and easier for those of us working over there. But maybe the main page isn't the best place. The Community portal needs a lot of help over there, but it would be a much better place for that link, in my opinion. What do you think?

After a quick read-through of your talk page, I hope you don't mind if I also make some other comments. I noticed that you criticized some users for not making pages correctly (putting categories and adding links to articles in other languages, etc.). I don't know how the rules have changed since I worked here last, but I know the Wiki spirit: all Wikimedia projects are edited by volunteers. This means that these people can and should do exactly the amount of editing that they choose. If someone is too lazy to even put {{uncat}} on a page, that is his or her choice. True, it would be simpler if he/she added that tag. But it is NOT appropriate to say "You must do this or else" unless they are actually breaking one of the rules. If there is such a rule here now (it isn't on Wikipedia:Rules), it is a silly and arbitrary one that should be removed forthwith! Basically, if someone wants to put categories and add links to other languages on every page they create/edit, that is great, but if someone doesn't feel like it, that is their right. Sure it slows things down. Sure it is better to do it at the time you make the page. And yes, you are welcome to encourage/remind people to do so. But criticizing/threatening is completely out of line in a case like that. I mean this as constructive criticism, so please don't take offense.

On another note, congrats on your fairly newly-acquired admin status. I hope we can work long and well together to make this wiki (and SEWT if you decide to join us there more permanently) the best of them all!

Happy editing! Oh, and sorry for being long-winded. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 22:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, first off, thank you for your quick response. You certainly would know better than me where the best place for it would be. I agree with you that right now the community portal is pretty bare-bones. I had been thinking that a good spot for it would be under the "Tips for writers" section on the main page where it says "If you're looking for a word to work on, then ... might be a good place to start."
Regarding my suggestions to add interwiki and categories, I'm pretty sure that I have not said "You must do this or else" to an editor (about those two specific things). Many of those suggestions are brought on by a large number of created pages by an editor without any formatting (or very little). While it is certainly their choice to include or exclude these parts of an article, one would think that if an editor truly wants to help out to the best of their ability, he or she would want the tools to do this (e.g. the Manual of Style). I know I've certainly fallen victim a time or two to becoming frustrated at a user who has specifically asked me how to do these things and then continues to not do it. I think that's only natural. If that comes across as threatening, I've certainly been misinterpreted. Thank you for pointing out that I may come across this way sometimes. I will try to be aware of this in the future when making my suggestions.
Please feel free to implement my suggestion however you best see fit at SE wikt. I have added notes on the category pages that {{dicdef}} leads to that will hopefully encourage people on this end to transfer some pages to SE wikt. Maybe we can get the category cleaned out so that it's merely a process of maintaining.
One last thing--welcome back! :-) · Tygartl1·talk· 01:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response, too! I apologize if I came across a bit too strong and kind of went off on you over something. That was not really what I should have done, nor even what I was intending to do. But I'll get to that in a second.

I think you might be right regarding placing that link (at least to the category) under that section on the main page. It would certainly fit there for now, even if we decide to tweak it later. After all, it has everything to do with working on articles, and those are even ones that are more or less written, albeit in Wikipedia format instead of Wiktionary format.

Now back to the apology. I've certainly misinterpreted how you have treated certain editors, since I've only read the part of the conversation that happens to be on this page. I haven't even read your "warnings." Sorry about that. Yeah, if they ask you how to do something and then don't do it, that does seem rather frustrating and kinda stupid.

I'm ecstatic to see that your reaction to constructive (or perhaps not-so-constructive) criticism is very moderated and open. You impress me as a very good editor/admin just by the way you reacted to me. You stay calm, and that's awesome. I'm sure I was overstating things when I said that you might have "threatened" them. The only thing I'd say now is try not to drive away good-faith editors (even if they do seem to be acting stupidly and wasting your time). If they're leaving pages with no formatting, make sure those pages get into the "wikify" list quickly/immediately, but as one user said to you here, any good-faith article (better still if it is to-the-point) is much better than no article, even if it isn't wikified or categorized. That is work that someone else won't have to do later, even if it leaves some work that someone else will do sometime. But that categorization work, etc., will undoubtably be done by someone, it is just bound to happen. And if there is a drive to categorize all pages, that will happen sooner, rather than later. Additionally, you can just take into account that this user doesn't wikify or categorize and either keep his/her contribs under observation (to work on later) or simply load all his/her articles directly into the "wikify" and "uncat" lists. But obviously with that comes trying to encourage the user to do it the best way, which is what you've been trying to do. If he/she simply doesn't want to, you'll just have to deal with it a different way, but I don't like Creol's solution and would much prefer working around/cleaning up after that user rather than losing him/her completely. Does that sound reasonable, or am I barking up the wrong tree again (which, BTW, is an extremely humorous idiom if you think about it :D)?

I must admit that I haven't read up on the transwiki process, so I don't really know how it works. I assume it isn't a cut/paste action, because that would lose the history, but I could certainly be wrong. If you could fill me in on that, I would greatly appreciate it! I'll even start working on them if you can tell me how! Thanks again for the calm, reasonable response. It is always a pleasure finding other competent, friendly editors. If there were such a thing as a "friend list" here on the Wikis, you'd already be on it. I know you're much more committed to helping here on SEWP (being an admin and all), but it would be fantastic if you chose to spend at least a little of your time working with us over there. Even though we've grown in articles, we still have a very small group of active editors, so any new editor is more than welcome, even if only part-time. We need good editors like you over there.

Happy editing and more apologies for my long-windedness! --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 03:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind compliments! :-D We should be bold and add the link to the main page. You're right--if it needs to be moved later on, it can easily be done.
As to your question about the transwiki process, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. If you're asking what I think you are, my opinion of the best action would be:
  1. Transfer the pertinent info over to SE Wiktionary
  2. Mark the page here with a deletion tag (something like {{QD|info has been moved to Wiktionary}})
I'm in the process of reading up on SE Wiktionary's procedures, style, formatting, etc. There's a lot to know and it seems pretty different from SE WP. You may see me over there from time to time, though. If I didn't answer your question, or if you have any other questions, just let me know. Thanks! · Tygartl1·talk· 15:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad you added the links to the Main Page. I'll probably get to tweaking later. :)

So regarding transwiki, you understand it to mean basically cut-and-paste, right? I think there's a better way, so I'll look it up.

Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of procedures, etc. written down over there yet. Yes, it is a bit different, since it is for a different purpose. I'm glad to hear I may see you over there sometimes.

I think the "Things to do" page that they have on EWT is a great idea, but it will take a bit of work to implement on SEWT. Thanks for pointing it out to me! --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 18:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the link to Wiktionary is a good idea, but I'm not much into the tech side of things and am not really sure how you would implement this.--Brett 00:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Anon IP user[change | change source]

the user is continuing to vandalize the page giant panda... Isis 16:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I would have blocked but I went to get lunch. :-) · Tygartl1·talk· 17:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
No worries. :) --Isis 17:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Admin[change | change source]

I was thinking of becoming an administrator somewhere down the road... how many edits and how long do I have to be here to become one? Thanks :)--'Choos'nink TALK 17:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Very good articles[change | change source]

Hello, tygartl1. I have made the message of the vgood template better. I do however think that we still need to beef it up a little. So that it looks nicer. Would you be in the mood and have the knowledge to do this?

Also, I think putting a very good article (sniplet) on the main page would not be a good thing, till we have about 10 of them. With the two we currently have, we would need a monthly rotation, for users to not notice. Do you konw of a way to get the nomination process going? --Eptalon 21:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi guys. (Nice to see you made it to admin status in the end, Eptalon. Congrats!) I'm definitely with Eptalon on this one, Tygartl1. We shouldn't start the main page section of vgood articles until we have enough to make it worthwhile. Actually, now that I think about it, having a snippet of one vgood article on the front page would be good even if it never changes until we have a bunch: that will be a way for people to see what an article is supposed to look like! So I guess I changed my mind: a snippet of a vgood article we already have should be put on the main page ASAP, in my opinion. We all could use something to compare to and admire here. I even think it might help morale (not that that's low or anything)! The rotation is what shouldn't start until we have enough vgood articles to make it worthwhile. I hope neither of you mind that I've put my thoughts here. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 03:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
We should put them on the main page, and rotate weekly. We can do this once we have material for about 1.5 months (that is 6-8 articles). I think till then, we should see that the nomination process gets going. That is that people nominate new articles that are a basis for work. --Eptalon 05:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Pardon me for commenting here, but the discussion is rather decentralized, so ... anyways, I think a side-project could help has in this way, and that is to have a contribution of the week thing running. We know who the common editors of Simple EN are, and we can simply find ideas in common. Then we can work on them, and produce matrial for the front page. How is that? - Huji reply 12:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to put this conversation on Simple Talk so that others can see and comment. I will also respond there. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 18:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks[change | change source]

I missed Sweetness34, so thanks. Billz (Talk) 15:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

User:[change | change source]

This IP needs a block. --Isis§(talk) 14:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Taken care of. -- Creol(talk) 15:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

UGH[change | change source]

What do I do wrong ? I think that you just said that to offend me, or be rude. --Liam.gloucester 21:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Björk Guðmundsdóttir[change | change source]

Please, please, please can you stop messing with the redirects to this article? In the end, we ended up with triple redirects to it, which simply messed everything up. Please leave it as it is now. Thank you. Billz (Talk) 21:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

You completely messed up all of the redirects. Every time you move the page, you're creating more redirects, which lead to more redirects and it simply becomes one messy web which wastes system resources and makes it difficult for people to use. Thank you. Billz (Talk) 21:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
In fact, leave it and I'll see to the redirects. Billz (Talk) 21:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. I wasn't trying to be awkward regarding the redirects, so sorry if I came across as such. Thanks. Billz (Talk) 21:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA[change | change source]

Hi![change | change source]

Hi! I created a template called Template:Sockpuppeteer, for people who use sockpuppets to evade blocks. Is this a simple enough template? If so, does it require protection? Thanks! --Choosnink TALK 19:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC) (by the way, I love what you have done to your userpage ;)

Thanks for changing that! And thank you for the kind words about the template :-). I think we better create about sockpuppeteering, though. Again, thanks! --Choosnink TALK 19:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

L'internationale[change | change source]

You added a cleanup tag to the Russian part of the article I created, the Internationale. I tried to simplify the English on the French translation, but I don't know what was wrong with the formatting of the Russian version. I corrected the Cyrillic transliteration (like "ch" instead of "č", or "yo" instead of Latin "ë " to transliterate Cyrillic ё), but did not find formatting problems. Please look at the article and check for any problems, and explain yourself!.
Thank you,
Ιόνας Δ. Ρανδ 23:39, 27 June 2007 (UTC) By the Way, what is CheckUser? I've heard of it on EnWiki.

Cethegus fixed the formatting. There was something wrong with the boxes, but it is fine now. CheckUser is a function that allows for a check to be run to see what IP(s) a user is editing from. I don't know a whole lot about it except that it is not used often and must be done by a steward at Meta. Majorly, Archer7, Sean William, or Creol could probably tell you more about it than I can. · Tygartl1·talk· 02:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)