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This is an archive. See User talk:Archer7 for my current talk page.



    • I felt this page was slightly too complex, so I've added some phrasal verbs. Hope this helps. =)--82.47.19.206 16:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

There is a stub on them asking people to make them better, what is better than to see the page that is already done, thereby duplicating the information twice.

    • I've just logged on, via wifi, through a public user net and got a message about vandalism and being blocked. This network is used by lots of people, so we will all have the same ISP Number allocated, so blocking it could cause problems. What is the other person doing that is causing a problem? I will stay online till you get back to me so that will keep this number to me for a while till you answer. 86.2.136.146 23:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello there. I just created an account at the Simple English Wikipedia after doing lots of work for the English Wikipedia. Within 30 seconds of me creating an account I found a user with your IP address redirecting tons of our articles to the full english ones. After I warned them, they then copied the entire contents of the English articles into our versions. I've just spent 20 minutes fighting off two vandals. Don't worry, the vandalism has now stopped and nobody will block you. Thanks, Archer7 23:17, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks for that info, which pages were they vandalising, If I ask around our group we find out who it was? 86.2.136.146 23:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, that would be excellent! Please explain that they are ruining the hours of hard work this community has put in! More 10 articles were vandalised in the attack:

Archer7 23:28, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


    • Done it! It only took 9 phone calls to find it was the daughter of a friend in the village, She has a learning disability but is otherwise, at times, remarkably bright. She won't cause another problem, though she says she did change some others a few days ago, but cannot recall which. She made a comment though that was interesting:- 'There is a link from the English wiki to the simple English, but not from the Simple to the English version'. I just took a look through the articles you listed above and saw what she meant. The James Monroe article does have other language links. Perhaps if you setup a bot to add the english link, and other languages, onto the simple pages that have a corresponding english page it would help. I think that would also be useful for those whose language skills are improving and want to dig deeper. 86.2.136.146 00:00, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Help me please![change source]

Hi Archer, I have only edited simple wikipedia a couple of times but mainly contribute on the english one. My user account name is en:User:DaGizza and I can't enter my account recently. The good news is I know what the problem is and ask one small favour from you. Can you please go to en:User:DaGizza/monobook.js, go to edit this page and blank the whole screen (In the edit summary you may write "requested by user"). That will make me enter my account again. Can you also please reply to my simple talk page once you have done it. Thanks very much. DaGizza 00:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I have also requested User:Flcelloguy to do this. If it is already blank, can you just make sure it was blanked by looking at "History" and confirm this information to me. DaGizza 02:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Blanked. OwenX 00:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for telling OwenX. However, I still can't enter my account. Can you ask whether he purge server cached? After I edited that page, it was alright until I purge server cached. You might not have to be an admin to do that. I'm not sure. If he didn't purge it can you request Thanks a lot for what you have done so far. Sorry I have been disturbing you because of this. DaGizza 02:01, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Done. I believe anyone can do that by clicking here. OwenX 03:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks[change source]

Thanks for helping, but a little advice - when you start to feel like someone is not going to stop, especially if they start moving pages around, try and reach an admin via email and their en: user pages. Most vandals get bored quickly, except when they have a target (like you became) for their vandalism. It's better not to play the game... we can always fix it later. -- Netoholic @ 22:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template messages[change source]

I haven't been active here much longer than you (my first edit under this username was Dec 13, and my anon contribs only go back to Dec 11, other than a single one Dec 2), so my opinion is hardly authoritative, but I can't see any reason why adding any templates currently being used (at least that actually work--{Link FA} does NOT at the moment) could be a bad thing. I don't see anyone reverting additions (other than the stub-sorting ones which I agree aren't necessary at this point). I assume that keeping the list up-to-date just didn't seem like a high priority if few new editors were coming around. So, yes, in principle I do think it is something that should be done, even tho' in practice I have to admit I haven't even done so with the ones I've copied over ({mergeto}, {mergefrom}, {imdb name} [or {imdb title} or both] and {Geolinks-US-cityscale}, that I can remember), let alone any of the pre-existing ones I have editted. FWIW I saw you were active thru one of the most sustained vandalism attacks since I went running to Angela for assistance (fortunately she was actively editting on EN at the time) last month[1][2], so I certainly understand what that's like. Freshstart 11:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Welcome[change source]

The template for users IP is {{Anon}}. -- aflm 21:41, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:IRC[change source]

I made this user template based on the Spanish one to popularize our IRC channel. -- aflm 16:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Phroziac moved the channel to #wikipedia-simple. -- aflm 23:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: account[change source]

Nah, I am only here to meddle, not do anything constructive. 65.95.228.43 17:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh I do try to keep it simple, I'm not stupid. This is just me testing my hand at doing things simply. 65.95.228.43 18:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

212.219.82.35[change source]

I'm not an admin, so I can't block anyone. You would need to contact User:Netoholic, User:Ricky81682, or User:Aflm. But, for whatever it's worth, that spate of vandalism wasn't too bad. If I was an admin, I might have thrown up a short block to break their rhythm, but if it keeps you from editing, I wouldn't make it very long. Reverting them was boring and a bit annoying, but nothing compared to more persistant vandals, such as the last time I contacted admins for help[3]--that lasted more than an hour, or the time before that [4]. The vandal from your IP does crap for about 10 minutes (twice now, now that I check), then goes away. I would be reluctant to prevent you from contributing whenever you can/want, just to prevent vandalism that can be reversed in a couple minutes. On the other hand, since I just noticed you reverted most of the latest round, and I wouldn't want you having to spend all your free time reverting your associates at school. I just left a message for Netoholic asking if there is a way to block the vandals, without blocking you (logged in). I referenced this conversation for background here, so hopefully we can find the most effective, but least invasive solution. Freshstart 17:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional background info. Maybe it does need to be blocked for a spell, until their attention has wandered elsewhere. It might help (if you haven't already) to let them know that what they're doing is a) FAR from unique or original (anytime I return to Simple after hours have passed I generally have to spend at least 5-10 minutes reverting vandalism, usually from MANY different IPs), b) is seen by the people doing the reverting as more just childish/immature than anything else, and c) the reverting is mostly just boring, not really generating a strong emotional response--my face doesn't turn purple, there's no veins on my forehead threatening to pop--it's more like 'OK, I want to clean up today's vandalism before I move on to what I really wanted to do. [yawn].' Freshstart 22:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and also that vandalism often actually HELPS the project (unintentionally, I'm sure), by shining a light on articles in need of cleanup[5]. Freshstart 22:44, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Problem[change source]

See User talk:Archer7/Pg2114 archive

Template for copied/simplified content[change source]

Hello, the message This article has been copied from the English wikipedia..... which you placed on Symbiosis would probably be a useful template message. Being a template, we would have a categroy for it, we would also see where more work is to be done.

Once the two articles would be sufficiently distict, the template could be removed again.

Eptalon 14:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

That could be OK, but wouldn't {{unsimple-r|Copied from English Wikipedia}} do the job?


Do not you understand?[change source]

Please, read you this user's page before revertirm. He is a usurper and he devotes itself to insult me in other wikipedias. You go to Wikipedia in Spanish and he writes to me. I'm the authentic es:Usuario:George McFinnigan. George McFinnigan ie 16:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I can see no evidence of that, feel free to show me it, but until then, stop vandalising NOW. Archer7 16:57, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Welcome[change source]

Thanks. Is there any more cleaning up left to do? Titoxd 22:37, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... is the vandalism coming from several similar IP addresses? A rangeblock might be effective then...
I know about the interwiki redirects, but it's the same as leaving a soft redirect, so I do that in my user page and then leave the long note in my talk page. Titoxd 22:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey. Can I talk with you at IRC? Please, try to be there. I would like to tell you something about the main page. Greets, --odder 16:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Simple English Wikibooks[change source]

There is little progress there because no-one has written anything. You're welcome to work away if you want. 86.41.149.63 18:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Images[change source]

Why aren't images allowed to be uploaded to this Wikipedia then? --Thorpe 13:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Sept 11 Wiki[change source]

Hi, could you look at my RfA at Sept 11 Wiki, hopefully supporting it! The wiki needs a fair bit of work, some of which is to protected pages, and vandal rollbacks. It could also do with some re-structuring, but that's another story. Thanks Rich Farmbrough 23:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion ;)[change source]

Hello, and thanks for the suggestion of trying google toolbar. I might give it a try. Though my problem is not so much that i am unable to spell, its more that I am not used to typing fast (and therefore sometimes 'miss' letters).

But thanks. :) -- Eptalon 20:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

George McFinnigan[change source]

Hello

In the user page of George McFinnigan. There is an announcement in Spanish. In this announcement, The vandal talk about an anti-George McFinnigan campaign.

I have warned to the real George McFinnigan for this user. When he responds me, I will warn to you.

thanks --Jorgechp 13:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


Hello
I want to tell you all the problem, that extends from January, but my level of english is not enough good.
Two users have been blocked from the Spanish Wikipedia by attack George McFinnigan and other users .
In the English Wikipedia, the vandals has been creating accounts with the name of George McFinnigan to supplant the identity. In the English Wikipedia, the the vandals has been blocked.
A common attack from the vandals in my page

http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usuario:Jorgechp&diff=2355138&oldid=2355089

This was the page of George mcFinnigan when it was attacked. http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usuario:George_McFinnigan&diff=2107450&oldid=2107395
This is the noticeboard of the Administrator in Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#User:Seanver
Thanks and sorry for my bad english --Jorgechp 22:53, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


Yes, The vandals says that George McFinnigan lives in Spain. But McFinnigan lives in Ireland
If you wait, George McFinnigan will respond to you --Jorgechp 14:06, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Signature[change source]

Do not forget to sign your messages on talk and project pages. Happy editing. -- aflm Talk 21:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Main Page one more time[change source]

Hello Archer7, I added icons to this template used at my main page. It looks very good at 800x600, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1280x1024, 1600x900 and 1600x1024 pixels. But I didn't add Template:Click. If you want to, do it :) It's wiki. And there are few red links. It will be good, if we won't have red links at main page :0. Could we replace the main page today? Greets, odder 12:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

PS. Answer me at my polish talk page. And try to be at IRC.

Hello, it's one more time me. Please, see the main page. Do you replace it or it will be waiting for replacing for ever? God, I'm waiting from February :) Greets, odder 18:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

external links => other websites[change source]

Where was the discussion held for this change? -- Netoholic @ 22:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Archer7/Template messages[change source]

May I delete it? -- aflm Talk 18:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Administrator[change source]

I'm happy to point out that, consensus being reached on Wikipedia:Administrators, you are now an admin. Make sure to review all the current policies. If you intend to use the "Block user" function, you must keep your email address current and check it often. The big thing to remember is not to use your abilities in any conflicts (editing or otherwise) that you're directly involved. Other than that, I'd suggest starting out slowly, and feel free to contact me or another admin if you have any other questions or just need a second opinion. Try to keep to the core values of Simple:, and remember... we aren't just another EN: Wikipedia. Congrats. -- Netoholic @ 07:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I say, congratulations and good work. Sj 02:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

A major matter to deal with here...[change source]

I would apppreciate it if you could block whoever is responsible for creating those sockpuppet accounts to disrupt the project and my work:

Now that same person's going to create more accounts, and it'll get much worse by dawn local time!

When I go to Wikipedia:Administrators, I will place my request so that my work can continue smoothly. In the meantime, please block the IP(s) of this user and warn them off. --Slgrandson 07:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

#vandalism-simple-wp[change source]

Forgive the spamming of admin talk pages, but I wanted to inform all the active admins that there is now a Counter Vandalism Unit IRC channel devoted to Simple English Wikipedia. If anyone is interest: #vandalism-simple-wp. -- Psy guy 16:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Other projects?[change source]

Ever thought about starting Esperenza, Portal, or Barnstar projects on Simple English Wikipedia (simiar to those on the other Wikipedias)?--TBCΦtalk? 17:00, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Babel boxes[change source]

The Babel boxes have been renamed to conform to a new scheme. Please remake your boxes or change the references to fit with the new standard format. The old boxes will be deleted. Ask me any questions on my talk page. Thanks!

Oh, and congrats on admin status. --Cromwellt|talk 03:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Type I Degenrative Super AIDS[change source]

Since a) the band (apparently) exists, b) a registered user was involved (ie it wasn't a 'drive by' anon article), and c) I've made it fairly clear I don't think we should have articles on any bands, I didn't think it was appropriate for me to delete it without checking for community support. I may be fairly radical in my opinions, but I try to be relatively conservative in my actions. Freshstart 16:51, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't mis-understand--it was crap and I'm glad it's gone. I just felt I should explain why I thot I should put it on RfD instead of just deleting it myself, since you seemed to raise the question on the RfD page[6]. Freshstart 04:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Image[change source]

Sorry, I did not realise that image uploads were not allowed. Billz 18:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Help[change source]

There is a vandal on the forum called Billz is HOMOSEXUAL. Please can you help me on this? Thanks. Billz 20:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Please can you also help me with the person who made this edit? Thanks.

Verizon[change source]

I'm a verizon subscriber, and haven't had any problem using this account on Simple... As long as you are blocking a user name and not a range, it will just autoblock his machine... Blockinblox 16:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser[change source]

Makes sense to me. And especially since, as you noted, it may take awhile to get input from 25-30 different editors, probably the sooner we start the better. Freshstart 18:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

You and Ricky81682 or Angela would probably be my first choice, except they're not around any more than Neto. Among the active admins, you and me or you and Aflm would be the pairs that I'd be most comfortable with. Freshstart 20:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I can't think of any reason people wouldn't trust you, and you seem to me to have the best skillset when it comes to backend stuff of all the actives; your work with Hailey and the vandal from her Wikia is, to me anyway, clear evidence you are the best person for the job. Freshstart 20:33, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

63.n.n.n vandal[change source]

According to this http://www.arin.net/whois/ that range is UUNET technologies[7], with non-portable IPs. I wonder if that vandal is using some sort of 'anonymous Internet surfing' program. Freshstart 19:00, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I should have thot to check. Glad to know you're on it. Freshstart 19:59, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[change source]

Thanks for the welcome message. Borgx 21:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Tim User:Gangabonga ¥º[change source]

Block, HUGE VANDLISM. HELP! DaGizza 06:30, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

86.5.211.24[change source]

Can you do something about the above user? They just vandalised an article about a turtle. Said the animal was a vegetable etc. (Teagan 22:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC))

Last Warning.[change source]

Hi, I use Template:lastwarning. I made it myself just for that purpose! Cheers, Blockinblox 14:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Exact copies of EN[change source]

I believe they should be deleted, and Neto has deleted them in the past--EG [8] [9] [10] [11] [12], but I'm not sure I have the 'political' capital to pull the trigger myself. Freshstart 23:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

To clarify why, I think they should be deleted to avoid things like this--I don't see the Simple English Wikipedia's mission as being a clone of EN, just with {unsimple} tags on top of all the articles, and a big mass of broken links and dead infobox variables. It would also avoid situations like Hannibal, which has consumed who knows how many hours of people trying to simplify it, yet it probably still needs dozens of hours more work before it's even close to simple. I also don't see any point in adding grossly unsimple articles to the 150+ article backlog at articles needing simplification, especially since no one seems willing to work on "translating" them. (I've emailed Netoholic for clarification, but Neto's lack of activity both here and EN for the past month makes me wonder if anything will come of it, plus has started me wondering whether we need to start thinking about making someone more active a bureaucrat). Freshstart 00:55, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello[change source]

You sent me a welcome message.

I will tell you that I was banned from the English Wikipedia for a year from May 2005, but they have changed their mind and added time to it. I am not sure if they will ever let me edit again. They say that they think that I am a "serial pest" because I have been involved in Wikipedia Review and have told people that Wikipedia is not perfect. I was banned because I tried to improve the accuracy of the article on the Port Arthur massacre. Today, the only improvements that you can see are the external links, and the bit about Child's Play. People at the English Wikipedia have changed everything that I wrote there. They have quoted some of the references wrongly too. I think that that article on the English Wikipedia is one of the worst articles on Wikipedia, because it is very inaccurate. I think that it is the worst article anywhere in the world about the Port Arthur massacre. It is the only place in the world that regards the views of 95% of all stories as "baseless conspiracy theories". It is the only place in the world which does not say that it was impossible for Martin Bryant to have killed the people by himself. It is the only place in the world which does not say why Martin Bryant could not have killed the people. It is the only place in the world which does not mention that the first person to see the killer was Wendy Scurr and that Wendy Scurr is the main person who says that Martin Bryant was not the killer.

I hope that I do not get banned from Simple Wikipedia for writing this. Please let me know if I am going to be banned or not, so that I can decide if I should make an account.

Do you think that I am good at writing things simply? 203.122.215.44 17:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I used en:User:Internodeuser. Censorship was a major part of that case, with 100s of article edits wiped from history, and manipulations of the m:Spam Blacklist too. Good luck trying to make sense of it. I wrote a blog entry about it if you want to read that, and that might make more sense than the Arbitration case. [13] and [14]. Talks about and proves the enormous level of censorship that went on. I am not expecting that ban to be lifted though. They will not even let me ask someone to look in to it. I am not allowed to post to the wikipedia mailing list, or write to Jimbo Wales or talk to anyone about it. No Wikipedia administrator has ever questioned the legitimacy of the ban. 203.122.215.44 20:34, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello.

You might want to note that I used Wikipedia conflict-free from October-December 2005 using the account called en:User:Zordrac before I was banned because I said that en:User:Poetlister should not have been banned, and I made a page about it en:User:Zordrac/Poetlister. Poetlister was unbanned, but the people that protested it, myself, en:User:Mistress Selina Kyle and en:User:Bonaparte were all banned over it. The incident led to the userbox dispute involving en:User:Kelly Martin that you might have heard about. I now realise that Wikipedia does not allow you to protest a ban.

I realise that Wikipedia controls truth. That responding to someone can be changed to make it look like I started the conversation, by deleting history. I now recognise that Wikipedia does not allow personal attacks, except for priveleged users who can get away with anything, and that even if I am personally attacked first, I am not allowed to respond to this, even if they do it hundreds of times and in a very nasty way. I now recognise that Wikipedia does not allow you to suggest that when someone threatens to kill you and says that they know your name and address and prints these to Wikipedia, then threatening to frame you for murder, that you are not allowed to tell them to stop it, or to inform them that they might be breaking the law. I recognise that Wikipedia regards this as a "legal threat".

I now realise that Wikipedia has many inaccurate articles, although I have never found one quite so inaccurate as the Port Arthur massacre article. I recognise that when an article is "owned" you are not allowed to edit it, and you have to respect that it is "owned" and that the best way is to ask for them to please change the text and to recognise the sources that you claim.

I recognise that Wikipedia is not fair. I recognise that it has many silly policies, and some that are purely unattainable and can never work, like NPOV. I realise that if I want to edit Wikipedia then I have to accept that I am doing it on Wikipedia's terms, not my own.

I thought that I did a pretty good job of avoiding conflict, and of helping others to avoid conflict. I got nominated for adminship, you know. Perhaps I should have accepted it. I probably wouldn't have been banned if I'd been an administrator at the time. 203.122.215.44 22:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Newb is not me. I believe that that is en:User:Sgrayban, although I am not quite sure. Anyway, as I said before, all I am asking you is if I will be banned from the simple Wikipedia. I do not care right now if I get unbanned from En, and that is not what I am asking you. I am happy that you considered it, but that is currently beyond the realms of what I can ask. Too many lies have been told about that for it to be fixed up. And unless Wikitruth decides to expose some actual censorship like those deleted edits, then it is not going to be undone. If only Wikitruth actually exposed censorship, eh? Instead of trying to tell us that we should make fun of people with physical disabilities and stalk secret martial artists and "uncensoring" a bunch of things that were never censored to begin with. Makes you wonder who is behind Wikitruth really. Well, it makes me wonder at least. Certainly not critics, and not people who are interested in helping Wikipedia. 203.122.215.44 22:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Oy vey[change source]

The RfD/Newb issue is unfortunate, as it's the only part of the user's edit history here that I find troubling. You may have noticed I've spent quite a while today looking at their new articles, and while I'm not thrilled with the apparent fondness for conspiracy theories, and some of the fact-checking could be better, the actual edits seem to be in good faith. I'd be inclined to act primarily on behavior here and now, rather than on EN in the past. Freshstart 01:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

hello my IP changed[change source]

This happens sometimes. I didn't even log off but I got a new IP. Sometimes it confuses me. So I thought I would tell you this because I just noticed it. 203.122.203.145 15:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Reri Horlockon[change source]

FYI. -- Netoholic @ 18:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protect[change source]

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure "Block unregistered users" automatically includes accounts less than a day old... Blockinblox 21:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

block[change source]

If you disagree with me, your primary effort should be to work with me directly, either on the wiki, by email, or by IRC. Becoming impatient and then locking a fellow admin is a horrible way to deal with a problem. If I am as bad as you say, then why would I let you block me? Hell, we could have gotten into a back-and-forth bullshit admin war. Fortunately, I'm much more rational than that. I'm not interested in a political battle, but please, for a moment, consider whether or not you and Cromwellt are trying to start one here. If you and Cromwellt want SE Wikt to become something that SE Wikipedia uses more, then you are far better off going back to SE Wikt and making it the best damn SE dictionary you possible can. I'll tell you that Angela and other people within the Foundation think that wiki should be shut down. If you really want to save it you need to work VERY hard to demonstrate that it can be made a useful alternative.

I'll tell you my suspicion though... that you and Cromwellt are trying to take the "easy road". You're doing the bare minimum of the hard work on SE Wikt, while debating its value on Wikipedia talk pages. Do te hard work, and you won't need to convince people. -- Netoholic @ 03:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Nomination[change source]

I thought I'd mention to you that I've nominated you and Freshstart for bureaucrat. I figure if CheckUser should have at least two, then it can't hurt to have that many bureaucrats. Of course, if you are uncomfortable with the nomination, you have every right to decline. Oh, and Netoholic is opposing both nominations, here and at meta, surprise, surprise. --Cromwellt|talk|contris 09:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Current conlfict between you and Netoholic[change source]

Hello,

I have added (a rather lengthy) comment on the talk page. One of the problem is that I do not see Netoholic's comments to be so rude as you have seen them. In short:

  • Please calm down. You are much more helpful to Wiki if you are calm.
  • You didnt have a zillion options, blocking Netoholic was one of them.
  • At the moment, I think that you might have overreacted, but I need Netoholics views of what happened to corroborate/disprove this.

Sorry -- Eptalon 11:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

You're right, Archer7[change source]

Hey Archer7,

You make some good points. Honestly, I'm not really angry at all, though I'm not sure why. I guess I am a little frustrated. Mostly I feel a bit cynical and critical. In any case, my comments to him are certainly not made with a very good attitude at the moment. I guess I'm just sick of this, after dealing with it for so long. Maybe he is too, I guess. But...I honestly just can't understand his side. I'm trying to get something constructive done here, something legitimate, something good. SEWikipedia and SEWiktionary, it's like pancakes and applesauce, like Bonnie and Clyde; it just goes together, like English Wikipedia and English Wiktionary. And I feel like he's been blocking me at every turn, just out of spite. Just because I've stood up to him, however nicely. I've always been a nice guy, so being painted in the role of the troublemaker is new to me.

I guess I'll let him be for now. I have to believe that the community will be as unbiased as possible. Like I told Eptalon, it's what I've been waiting for. Besides, I've got nothing to hide. I can't imagine what he'll accuse me of, even. You are right about the difficulty of conveying emotion through writing. That was one reason I didn't know how to answer him when he said "I invite you to withdraw." Oh well. Que sera sera. --Cromwellt|talk|contris 16:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Your Contribution Status[change source]

I assume that you will still be contributing to the discussions on the dispute, even if you are not "actively contributing" generally. Am I right? I hope so. --Cromwellt|talk|contris 13:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Willothewisp[change source]

I don't see much activity since March. Is he still doing the poor recordings and they've been removed? I'm having technical difficulties with OGG (in other words, I don't know what I'm doing) and I can't hear the recordings. 67.187.92.192 01:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Oops, I see from your talk page back at en that I should have said WP:IfD, rather than MfD. Sorry for the bad information. 67.187.92.192 14:21, 15 June 2006 (UTC) (Joyous)

Vandalism Channel[change source]

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. I have not been on for a few weeks, so I really don't know about the channel. I will look into it. Sometimes Tawker forgets to put bots in some of the smaller channels. I will drop him a line and see what is going on. Thanks for letting me know. -- Psy guy 17:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have found something for you. You can just sign into #cvu-staff and ask someone in there to add the bot. Some of the bots went down about a month ago and some just were not put back. I would do it but internet is giving me trouble; browser is all I get right now. Hope this helps. -- Psy guy 15:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Administrator attention needed[change source]

Hiya, I was wondering, could you tell me if there's anything like WP:ANI on the "Simple English" wiki here? There seem to be a few tasks that need Administrator attention (like some articles in the "Pages to be deleted" queue which have been languishing for months), but I'm not sure how to bring notice to them. I'm also open to submitting my own name for admin access, but I'm not sure if I have sufficient presence here yet, despite the fact that I have created over 100 articles and have over 4,000 edits at the regular English wikipedia. What is your opinion? --Elonka 20:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Simple English Wiktionary[change source]

Hey Archer7, can you please revert the redirect that Netoholic did to the description I made at Simple English Wiktionary? You'll have to go back a link because it is currently a redirect. Then it should probably be moved to the wikipedia: namespace, since it is a project page, not an article. Consensus agrees that the project should exist, so I think the page makes sense, especially since it was only changed to a redirect because of his campaign against the project. But I think you know very well why I don't want to touch the page myself. We should probably also make a page on the English Wiktionary as well. Thanks! --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 00:15, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza[change source]

Do you want to join Esperanza? GangstaEB talk contribs 17:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I nominated you to be the admin general of Esperanza. GangstaEB talk contribs 18:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello[change source]

I just saw you and dropped in to say a big hello. helloooo. --Bhadani 15:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The truth[change source]

I would like you to know what really happened with User:Reri Horlockon. The 63.19 vandal or someone else stole the password, as it was a little obvious (although I will not state it here). That was my account, not the vandals, and I was taking a long break. I hope you can unblock it, because the vandal may not steal the password again.Miagop 23:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully you can unblock my account, because I would like to edit from it again. I also removed the trolling by the 63.19 vandal that was further up.

PLEASE UNBLOCK MY ACCOUNT!!Miagop 01:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

82.0[change source]

I can't see anything going on. Can you explain the problem in more detail? Archer7 - talk 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for an immediate response. He has been changing certain pages. For example, he/she changed the page Tripura from a state of India to an annexed state of India. This has made the information false. Tripura is an integral part of India. In any case, any one changing a fact in this way is difficult to be spotted easily. Such a change in the English Wikipedia shall be removed immediately, at least within a reasonable time. The English wikipedia recognizes such type of vandalism when it declares: "Sneaky vandalism: Vandalism which is harder to spot. Adding misinformation, changing dates or making other sensible-appearing substitutions and typos." He/she has created a page Kingdom of Sikkim - it is interesting to note that the Englsih Wikipedia with more than a million pages do not have any such page! Regards. (My reply copied from his page) --Bhadani 16:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Great! The page has gone now. My faith in the system has increased. Thanks. --Bhadani 16:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you[change source]

Hello Archer. I thank you for the barnstar. I have just begun my work here. I accept the barnstar on behalf of all the wikipedians. We all shall come closer and shall make the Simple really a great work. I shall continue to be here. I shall remain in touch with you. In case, you feel to point out something, please feel free. Thanks again. Regards. --Bhadani 17:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi![change source]

Hi Archer7, it's Jordanhatch from English Wikipedia.

I noticed that you'd made the change, so I thought I should give SEWikipedia a try too.

Are there any articles that you think I should start/work on? Jordanhatch 18:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Do you think that if I work on some good articles, then I might have a chance of becoming an admin here? Jordanhatch 18:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I'll give it a few months then, I think I'll be spending a lot of time during my 9 weeks school holiday working on here. It'll be something to tell XenoNeon anyway when I get back to school in September. (I think I'll give the Leyland page some time before creating it - working on some bigger articles). Jordanhatch 18:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit count[change source]

Well, I was unemployed for the first 2-3 months I was here, and not even getting many interviews, so I had a LOT of time on my hands, which gave me quite a head start. Freshstart 02:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[change source]

Thanks for helping me to fix the double redirect on RfA. See you soon.-- 09:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Signature[change source]

Well, I've fixed it. Sorry. Thanks for letting me know.-- Tdxiang 11:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:WOW?[change source]

I don't know if Willy on Wheels' vandalism here is widespread, but do you think of it as feasible to create a template to identify possible sockpuppets of WoW?-- Tdxiang 10:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

News Source[change source]

Hello, Archer7. I know this maybe something you won't want to do but would you give me sort of an overview what's happening on the Simple English Wikipedia? If your familiar with the English Wikipedia, the Wikipedia Signpost comes out every week. The writers and the publisher thought it would be a good idea to gather news sources from other languages. I understand some weeks, (the paper is published every Monday), there might not be any coverage for the Simple English Wikipedia but if you take the job try to get all news sources to here by Saturday evening. Reply on my talkpage as fast as you can, and I mean as fast you can so I can start planning next week's issue. Treebark 16:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

O.K, then. No arbatration reports or anything? Treebark 17:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
K, I think I'll just report on articles up for deletion, featured articles, admins etc. Treebark 04:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Archer7, though I agree that we're too small for a Signpost of our own, I wouldn't say that nothing ever happens here. I think the whole Netoholic issue is something, and the blowup with the block was at least somewhat newsworthy. I still think something must be done about him. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 01:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Reri Horlockon is a loser and blocking.[change source]

Is there a username guideline page in this Wiki? And is there a template to state that the username is inappropriate? Do let me know. Thank you, Archer7.-- Tdxiang 07:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind if I answer this on his behalf, as I believe that he is not online at the moment. There is a username policy, which suggests that offensive username should be banned. Thank you. Billz (Talk) 07:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Reri Horlockon's Sockpuppet[change source]

Can you run a checkuser to see if this suspected sockpuppet/impersonator is really Horlockon's sockpuppet? Thanks.-- Tdxiang 09:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Vote[change source]

Hi. Who is allowed to vote here?--Paulistanum 14:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you specify about what type of voting? Thanks.-- Tdxiang 12:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Best Article and Picture[change source]

Should we have a daily "Best Article" and a "Best Picture" on the Main Page? GangstaEB talk contribs 01:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Please look at recent changes and...[change source]

Hi Archer7, I think you are online. Can you please take action against POLESMOKER (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log)--Kungfuadam 13:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[change source]

I thank you for your kind notice of my work. I would say that it is a team effort. I accept the barnstat on behalf of all of us - it belongs to all! We all are here with one goal. Somehow, I could complete the LIST. Still, we have to improve these pages, as also improve the coverage of the Simple. I found that writing in Simple is not simple. I shall continue my mission here. Regards. --Bhadani 16:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Help[change source]

Thank you. I would have been okay with that remaining, except that the vandal's name was obscene. Again, thank you. --Ionius Mundus 00:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandals[change source]

Look at IHAVEtheBIGGESTpenis and POLESMOKER. Their modus operandi is similar ( placing pornography and nosense on an article, like Wikipedia). Are they sockpuppets? Do le tme know. Thank you.-- Tdxiang 07:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

IoS[change source]

Done, and no, for the reasons stated at RfD. Freshstart 18:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

RFAs[change source]

How long must an Rfa take before voting closes? P.S. Thank you for your help on trolls, vandals and sockpuppets!-- Tdxiang 08:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I quit[change source]

I quit wiki-ing. Take care of Esperanza for me. GangstaEB talk contribs 18:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser vote[change source]

I've de-listed the vote for CheckUser access (permanent link to final results). These were started back on May 14th, and with only 13-15 support votes out of the 25-30 needed, I think it's gone for a long time and it's too much to ask that we keep that vote open indefinitely. Although I believe our wiki should have CheckUsers, I suppose the lack of activity on the vote is an indication that we're too small by the Foundation's standards. We should be able to raise the issue again in the future. -- Netoholic @ 03:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Lilerikrdz@hotmail.com[change source]

Can you please block this user? It's username is an email address and is likely to be spam. Big thanks from -- Tdxiang 08:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Help 2[change source]

Hi. Just recovering from a recent wave of vandalism. I believe you deleted vandalism from my user page's history in the past. Could you do that again (including my revert, so that it is not even detectable)? Thank you very much. --Ionius Mundus 05:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks like I need help fixing it again. Thanks for any help. --Ionius Mundus 01:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. --Ionius Mundus 23:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[change source]

Hi Archer7, just to let you know the logo change we were talking about is currently being discussed at Wikipedia:Simple talk#New_logo. Your comments there would be much appreciated. Cheers, Tangotango 09:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Anti Lesbian vandal spree[change source]

The user who goes by 'The Anti Lesbian' in various ways has created at least 15 sockpuppets in the last 24 hours, and is using most of them for vandalism. I don't know if you can do anything about it, or even if you know already, but I'm just making sure. PullToOpen π/φ 21:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

w00t![change source]

Nice speed there. - Amgine 15:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Unprotect page[change source]

Since you are an administrator, can you unprotect Wikipedia:Basic_English_alphabetical_wordlist? It says (on the page) "This page is a list of words that come from a specific source and should not be changed. Please do not add new items or make casual updates to it, unless you are correcting it to match its original source." I'd like to make a few small corrections in order to "match its original source". DenisL 18:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. The list is now identical to the orignal source. DenisL 19:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks[change source]

thanks a lot....for your block...I was alone --Vector (write me please)(Esperanza) 22:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Question[change source]

Could you protect my userpage which is being vandalized along with Kimberly Ashton? ForestH2 00:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

217.206.225.183[change source]

this user is vandalising contiunuously — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendy5000 (talkcontribs)

If you need assistance with a vandal, please add it to the Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress page. Also, please remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Billz (Talk) 10:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Alastor Moody/User Misses Pluto[change source]

User:Alastor Moody/User Misses Pluto

Check it out. I made my own userbox "template". Well after I finished it, with only one edit, I wanted to know if it looked all right. Just want opinions and was wondering if I can spread it to other users who were unhappy when Pluto was no longer a planet. --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 01:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Never mind... *sigh* --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 00:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar[change source]

Barnstar Congratulations: You have been awarded a Barnstar!

For your great work on fighting vandalism I, TBC, award you this barnstar. --TBCΦtalk? 04:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

--TBCΦtalk? 04:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Bot[change source]

Are you running a bot or other automated script from this account? Your edits seem very quick. Archer7 - talk 18:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

No. I do have some tools (like Popups and Pywikipedia) that I am using to help me edit faster, but none of the edits are automated. --R'n'B 15:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Please note that running pywikipedia is considered running a bot. (Indeed, most Wikipedia bots run on the pywikipedia framework). Cheers, Tangotango 12:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Netoholic[change source]

Could you please take a look at admin Netoholic? He's been speedily deleting articles created out of good faith without any discussion whatsoever when they should have been nominated on RfD instead. He's deleted multiple articles on notable cities and districts, not even bothering to redirect any of the article. Cheers, --TBCΦtalk? 07:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I take offense to "without any discussion whatsoever". Please see User talk:TBC. -- Netoholic @ 07:30, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
But the thing is, you notified me only after you deleted all those articles, so technically is was without discussion.--TBCΦtalk? 07:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... my first deletion of one of the pages you created was at 06:43. I contacted you on your talk page at 06:41. But then either way it doesn't matter. -- Netoholic @ 07:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Looking through my history, most of the articles you deleted were created yesterday. Regardless, you should have nominated the aritcle for RfD instead of speedily deleting it. As I've said before, please remember that Wikipedia is a community project and actions should be determined by consensus if the issue doesn't involve vandalism.--TBCΦtalk? 09:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Anyhow, Archer7, could you please restore the articles Netoholic inproperly speedy deleted, so that they can go through the RfD process first?--TBCΦtalk? 09:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Logo[change source]

Hey Archer, what should we do with the logo proposal at Wikipedia:Simple_talk#New_logo? Not many people seem to have commented on the third variation, but at the moment the consensus seems to be for the second. Can I initiate a voting process, or do you think we should wait some more? - Tangotango 16:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Article recreation[change source]

Could you recreate the articles deleted by Netoholic and redirect them to Lower Saxony as you suggested?--TBCΦtalk? 03:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Featured articles?[change source]

As you seem to be a very experience editor on the Simple Wiki (evidenced by your adminship), would please comment on this proposal on Simple talk, advocating for the creation of some sort of featured article process?--TBCΦtalk? 08:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

New logo vote[change source]

Thank you for commenting on the logo proposal at Wikipedia:Simple talk#New logo. We're now holding a final vote at Wikipedia:Simple talk#New logo vote to decide our new logo, so please take a look and vote when you have time. Cheers, Tangotango 04:38, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Sysop article draft?[change source]

Hey Archer7, I think I've came up with an idea of a draft "proposed" policy on how to become a sysop. Cuz when I saw a list who attempted to be an admin, they've failed due to lack of experience of # of edits, unpopularity, or something like that; so here's my idea. All I'm asking is your opinion about it since I'm no sysop here.

Draft:

"A user that wishes to be an administrator in the Simple Wikipedia, (a) must have a minimum experience of 4 to 5 months, (b) must have a minimum of 500+ number of edits, (c) and must have proved to be trusted on handaling admin tasks (example; reverting vandalism, greeting and helping other users, defending the wiki from vandals and users who repeatedly despited warned, give bad-faith edits, etc.,). In addition, he or she must qualify for at least two of these expected criteria in order to be an administrator and all candidates must have at least 2/3 of votes that says "support"."

--§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 07:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I get what you mean, but other wikis have their own policies like Commons:Administrators to be sysops so I was also suggesting on for this community. In addition, maybe I would agree and reduce the time of experience to a minimum 3 months or 90 days. But when you said for a minimum of 1000 edits, I find that way too much number of edits and since this isn't the English Wikipediam. Wikicommons have a minimum edits of 200 edits instead. Well now whats your opinion? --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 03:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
True but then how do we begin the disccussion on Simple talk? Remember, I'm no sysop here. --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 18:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Then how about a minimum of 800 edits instead? But another suggestion is to first check if that user's more than 30% of the # of edits are bad-faith edits or edits similar to that. --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 02:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Protect & Semi-protection templates[change source]

Hey Archer7, I made up an idea of copying the English Wikipedia's idea into here for two templates called Template:Protect and Template:Sprotect. Well although I managed to create the templates, I need an admin to finish it up by semi-protecting and protecting the templates so that they can be affective when used. For more info: see Template:Sprotect and Template:Protect. Thanx. --§ Alastor Moody (T + C) 00:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser[change source]

Checkuser is not infallable. First of all, it is easy enough to avoid; and second, relies on the interpretation of the person checking the information. Some common sense should be used.

User:Manecke has acted strangely. He welcomed User:Geeksluvpi at 17:59 (four minutes after that account was created). Manecke's next edit was to create a template for Tangotango's nomination. He then created that on the admin page, and a couple hours later Geeksluvpi voted on it in his 5th edit.

Manecke also has a picture of a sock puppet on his User:Manecke page. Take a look at Special:Undelete/Sock_puppet as well.

I'll not block again until something changes, but watch these two carefully - don't get played. -- Netoholic @ 21:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Ernest Hemingway[change source]

Hi. I noticed that you tagged Hemingway as a "Very good article" (back in february), but the article has been tagged "cleanup" for over a year. These seem to be inconsistent. I personally don't think that the article needs cleanup, but was just wondering if there was a reason that you tagged it without removing the cleanup tag? Was it an oversight? Thanks for any insight! --Storkk 12:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

your actions[change source]

I am amused that you feel like you can make actions opposing mine, when you can't even find the time to make more than 0-4 edits per day here. If all you are going to do is pop in every couple of days to stick up for other non-contributing editors like yourself by either unblocking them or reversing my deletions, you will find that your position will not be one of strength. I cannot support allowing Simple English to become more of playground for disaffected editors from the more successful wikis. That is the challenge we are facing. If you were a responsible admin, you would see that. Since you can't - that means that you either should turn back down your adminship, or at the very least stop sending mixed signals to bad editors by provoking in-fighting. -- Netoholic @ 16:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

"Threatening users with blocks simply because they don't comply with your view of the perfect editor is not acceptable." What's even more unacceptable is to re-phrase what I've said and attempt to refute that, rahter than my actual position. I'm not going to block people for being "imperfect" - I'm going to block them when I see them using our Foundation's resources for their own social networking and entertainment. Play chess on a page - get warned, then blocked. Right now, particularly surrounding Esperanza, there is a community of non-contributory members who piddle around rather than actually contribute. I was tempted to just delete Esperanza altogether, but I'm hoping you or Billz will show some REAL leadership there. -- Netoholic @ 18:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
"What about threatening Alastor Moody with a block just because he didn't have enough edits in the article namespace?" - Again, please don't inaccurately paraphrase me. Did you actually read User talk:Alastor Moody#Warning? his number of edits was not reason for the warning. The warning was based on his ratio of article edits to his random other pursuits. I have deleted perhaps 2-3 dozen of non-article pages he created. He makes extra work for me. He picks on newbies by calling tests and comments "vandalism" when they are not. He has picked fights with other editors. If he were more active on articles, I'd have less of an issue with it and might not be so aggressive that he stop. -- Netoholic @ 19:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh,ok[change source]

I didn't know that user had those links. Thanks for telling me :)! Kysapoo 23:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

hello[change source]

I candidate myself for administrator. tell me if it's all ok --vector ^_^ (talk) 21:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandal[change source]

Cyberstalking Zephyr2k is vandalizing multiple articles last edited by Zephyr2k. Creol 17:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Adminship[change source]

Hello, Archer7. I've just seen those requests which passed and failed and I wonder: must I get unanimous support to get sysop tools?-- Tdxiang Adminship 02:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Thank you, Archer7, for your support! My adminship failed due to concerns by our bureaucrat, Netoholic. i do not hold anything against him, though. Thank you once again!-- Tdxiang 02:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandal alert[change source]

The anti-lesbian vandal is back as Alvarlez --Creol 00:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucrat[change source]

New elections for bureaucrats on simple.wikipedia are going to start. Would you like to give a hand to simple.wikipedia and candidating here? --M7 17:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Overturning of veto[change source]

Dear Archer7, since Netoholic is desysopped, will the veto he placed on me be still in place? If so, does that mean that I will be granted sysop access? Or must I have another Rfa to reach consencus? I am rather confused. It's okay. With or without the mop, I can still work here. Just give me a reply soon. Thank you.-- Tdxiang 03:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It's all settled. Angela has placed me on the old Rfa again. :)-- Tdxiang 03:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

IRC[change source]

Dear Archer7, do you use IRC? I'm on Simple English channel now. I'd like to enquire about something. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdxiang (talkcontribs)

Just confirming you that User:Pedro Sanchez is an impersonator. That's my real name by the way. Drini 18:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

ok[change source]

I'm sorry....--vector ^_^ (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)