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Simple News

As you probably noticed, I got Yotbot to deliver SN special edition. However, the collapsible box still doesn't work. Yotcmdr✼ Merry Christmas ! ✼ 10:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think i might have said this, but i'll say it again ;) Overall, a great job. There are a couple of niggles that i'll set GBot1 to fix, but other than that very good :D (But now i'm back i'm having the job... even thought GBot1 was still going to continue anyway :P ) BG7even 13:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hiya, Bluegoblin. I know you're inactive at the moment, but can you answer this when you get back? You said that Simple would gain 2 more admins (not including you). So who are they? Is one of them me? TurboGolf 07:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Tharnton,
I wasn't really thinking of anyone in particular, more that we would get two. I don't know you well enough yet to say if you would be one or not. Sorry, BG7even 13:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Back!

Welcome Back, Bluegoblin!

Now get back to work on creating those railway-related articles ;) TurboGolf 13:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the re-welcome! I have lots and lots of articles planned over the next month of so (over 1000!) not just on Railways but transport in general and also places ;)
Cheers, BG7even 13:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cool! As I am now off cars, you can complete them. TurboGolf 13:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I might do at some stage ;) BG7even 13:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yay BG!! Nice to have you back (I was starting to get bored talking to Synergy all the time ;) )!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yotcmdr (talkcontribs) (Why do I always forget to sign...? Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 15:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Hehe ;) Thanks mate. Anyway, im off to get back into the swing of things :P BG7even 14:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see you are finally back and editing on this site. There are a lot of articles that could use creation, so hop to it ;). Razorflame 14:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, thanks. It's only been a week, but i've done a lot in that week ;) BG7even 16:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is Razorflame's bot, in case you were wondering ;). He's in the middle of creating france commune stubs at the moment, so I can't edit on Razorflame while I'm making them using AWB. Cheers, Darkicebot (talk) 16:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe i know. Actually, you can. That is, if you get another browser such as Firefox, AWB works through IE ;) BG7even 16:14, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Header

Lol, I'm very good at stealing designs :D! Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 17:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe ;) I don't mind ;). But remember to add the name= parameter ;) BG7even 17:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK credit

Please discuss this before you remove the section. Thanks, NonvocalScream (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See my comments at Wikipedia talk:Did you know. There is no consensus for it to be added, so the default position is for it to be removed. BG7even 21:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Earthquake

I will take up the suggestion and move the rest to my sandbox - I'll keep chipping away at the rest.--Peterdownunder (talk) 10:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okie dokie! Thanks again! BG7even 10:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P(V)GA

Yes, you did great- next time remember to add the articles to the by date page as well; Other than that, we probably need to strengthen community interest in the process(es) again; we also need some nominations, there are currently two left for PGA, and once the nudity debate is done, there will be no nominations for PVGA.. (On a side-note: your talkpage probably needs archiving as well?) --Eptalon (talk) 11:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I didn't actually realise that the date page was there, thus why I didn't do it ;) Yes, we do need to rekindle activity - one of my targets for 2009 is to write a VGA and 2 GAs so i'll get working on them! (And yes, my talk page is about to be archived ;) ). BG7even 11:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GFDL complience

I noticed some of your new creations are GFDL non-compliant. Can you run a bot thru each of them, or if not, do you need some help. The source has to be stated, even if it is a derivative. An example article is British Rail DP2. Best, NonvocalScream (talk) 02:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeh i'll run GBot2 through them tomorrow. Slipped my mind, sorry. BG7even 02:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Earthquake

Have been through the whole article and simplified as much as i could - see figures on the talk page. I have also checked the info against the enwiki and updated the info. I have removed the complex and update tags. Who removes the RFD tag? --Peterdownunder (talk) 05:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Thanks for your help. BG7even 11:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two things - templates and rollbacks

Hi

thanks for the response - I'll leave the templates to you - I have tried fiddling in my sandbox and end up in a mess!

Second thing - rollbacks, several people have been vandalising the Calculus page - I can rollback the top one, but how can I get back through other edits until I get to the good copy? I have pressed "undo" and may have created a bigger problem. Do I have to go back and manually change it from the good copy? Thanks, --Peterdownunder (talk) 10:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i'll have a look at it when I get a chance. Someone else may beat me to it ;)
I've fixed the page. If it continues, you might want to suggest semi-protection.
Thanks,
BG7even 10:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why

Why do you copy n' paste from en.wiki? TurboGolf 18:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't. I copy and paste things like templates and stuff (which are making their way here too) as they are helpful. They're what we need (I was also involved in the creation of some of them so some I have re-written for here). BG7even 19:12, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
From all the links that are appearing on Wikipedia in railway articles, I would say that you are systematically copying articles from Wikipedia, paring them down, and putting them on Simple Wikipedia. There is minimal writing involved. In other areas of life it would be called plagiarism. Bhtpbank (talk) 07:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it wouldn't necessarily be called plagiarism as he wrote some of them in the first place. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 17:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you want me to provide evidence that he is plagiarising articles written by others, then I can provide them in quantity. If it continues, I might need to raise the issue at a higher level. Bhtpbank (talk) 20:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note

Just a note, link. NonvocalScream (talk) 15:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Co-nom

Your chance to co-nom, Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Shapiros10‎. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 20:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar!

Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

For having more edits than me, even though I have been on here longer than you. TurboGolf 20:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

User:Kennedy has nominated you for adminship. TurboGolf 08:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've now transcluded it on to the RfA page. TurboGolf 08:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

upset

Why didn't you wosh me a happy Christmas :( I was only preson on wiki to not have been wished a happy christmas. TurboGolf 15:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SN layout

A few comments about the layout of the current edition of SN. Try grouping together the admin related news (i.e. all those who failed in one group, all those who passed in another) to give a clearer view on who was promoted and who wasn't.

You may also want to format the ANNOUNCEMENT section, since long lists of numbers isn't particularly appealing on the eye. --Gwib -(talk)- 16:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments Gwib, I will see what I can do ;). I may leave it for this issue due to time constraints, but i'm planning a full layout overhaul of the entire Simple News area for the next issue so it will happen then regardless.
Thanks again,
BG7even 16:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

Give up your rfa, they've got it in for you like thery did for shappy. They're all f****ing reasons from all f*** all the troublemakers here at simple. It was better with them inactive or not here. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 17:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, because that would be giving in to those who don't think I am capable of being an administrator. I have a week to show them that I can be. And I plan on doing so. BG7even 17:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yotcmdr, that's not the conduct I expect in administrators. Bluegoblin, yes, keep your chin up. Even if it fails, there is always next time. Generally, the community needs to develop more trust in you. Just work at it, and let time tick... tick... tick... — RyanCross (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Then why am I or Djsasso admins, and not Shappy or BG? It's all crazzy. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 19:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yotcmdr, relax. Calm down. Getting worked up about it doesn't do anything. BG7: sadly, as I learned with my own request, after a week they probably won't change. :( Shapiros10 Flap the Yap 12:29, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shappy: I'm sure it won't. I've accepted that it is going to fail, but w/e. Idc. I'm not withdrawing it, let it run. BG7even 12:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shapps, I'm sorry but all of this is getting out of hand. Any more of this at simple and I quit. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 18:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good job

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my userpage. :) Shapiros10 Flap the Yap 12:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe ;) Your welcome :D BG7even 12:31, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SN

Hey, before delivery, could you check this page. I am not sure how often DYK hooks are updated. Could you correct? Ta Kennedy (talk) 16:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. There's not really a set length. We aim for every 2-3 days so I will add that. Sometimes it is less, sometimes it is more. Thanks, BG7even 16:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Simple News Issue Three

Simple News
Simple News
Issue 3 - 19th January 2009

42,058 editors, 53,245 articles, 124,390 pages.


Announcements Administrators


User Articles
Another bumper article from Kennedy this month, with not one, not two, but three pages including Simple News, DYK and RfA
This month Bluegoblin7 writes about the GA and VGA processes
In his second article for Simple News Yotcmdr writes about his new WikiProject, WikiProject France
In a third short article Yotty talks about his opinions of the RFA system

[Subscribe]
[Dates]
[Discussion]
[The Team]

QandA
  • The QandA. Every month, Kennedy interviews one of the Simple English Wikipedia's editors, asking them about themselves, and their opinions on Wikipedia. It is an exciting insight behind the anonymous face of an online username. This month is a bumper edition for QandA, as Kennedy was an idiot and forgot to load the interview last edition! This month will be Shapiros10 and Yotcmdr! Click for their interviews:
Shapiros10 Interview
Yotcmdr Interview

The Commander's Choice

The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. Here is this edition's list:


--GoblinBot3 (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SN submission

See Wikipedia:Simple News/Newsroom‎. Thanks. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 21:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thankspam

Thank you for voting in my recent RfA. Unfortunately, I have decided to withdraw from the RfA due to concerns brought up in the oppose votes. The final tally was 4 supports and 6 opposes. I would like to thank American Eagle for the nomination. Razorflame 22:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear it - I was actually mulling over a change to support. I would however be happy to nom or co-nom you in the future when I feel you are ready - more than likely a couple of months.
Thanks,
BG7even 22:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GoblinBot3

GB3 has been approved as an AWB based delivery bot. Sorry that took so long. Couple of things got pushed back in all the drama recently. --Creol(talk) 12:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Creol, thanks for that! No worries about the length - I hope I was ok to run it for the 19th's issue as it has already been approved under GBot1. Thanks, BG7even 12:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

upset

Why didn't you wishj me a happy christmas :( I was only persob obn wiki not yo bec wisahed a happy Chritsman (this time repsond). TurboGolf 15:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There were lots of people who I didn't say Happy Birthday too. I just went through my contributions and said it to everyone who I had talked to on their talk page, except Welcome messages and vandal warnings. I hadn't posted anything on your talk page, so I didn't send you one... BG7even 15:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't talk to PeterSymonds and you gave him a Christmas notixe. TurboGolf 20:29, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Expired noms"

Please don't remove nominations as "expired noms" like you did here. There is nothing in the rules that says there is a time limit on how long a nomination can sit on the nomination page. Instead, please comment (approval or disapproval) on the hooks. There is no reason to remove these, Either way (talk) 18:12, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think you will find noms have always expired after about 5 days, and it is also in the rules proposal at Wikipedia talk:Did you know that there have been no objections too. If there has been no comments/actions on the hook by the editor who nommed it, it should time-out - why should another editor pick it up? Thanks, BG7even 18:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Where does it say five days is the standard? It's not in the rules or instructions. Every nomination should be acted upon. They should only "expire" if someone raises a concern about it, and the nominator never comes along to fix it. The fact that others have not commented on it or have not followed up on concerns they raised should not reflect on the nominator by having his hooks removed. Either way (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There ya go someone's objected. Either way (talk) 18:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't however it has been commented on multiple times and I am not the only editor tht has done it. Remember, not all guidlines have to be followed. If you would prefer, shall I add a {{subst:DYKno}} to all the articles first, and then remove them as expired? BG7even 18:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you have reasonable objections, then yes, you're always welcome to add DYKno to a nomination. Of course, you shouldn't add that and then remove it as expired without giving the nominator a decent time frame to respond to your concerns, Either way (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wait... so I can remove nominations as expired after giving a decent amound of time? I'm sure you just said that I couldn't. The two I removed were nominated over 2 weeks ago, and the concerns had not been met. I only remove hooks without input after being declared as a no or an almost without comments in the last 5 days, not hooks that haven't already been commented upon. BG7even 18:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, i've screwed up here ;) I didn't fully check the nominations. My bad ;) *trouts self* Apologies Either way! But, I think the discussion should continue. BG7even 18:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need to be rude about it. I've seen at least two posts from you today that could be taken as personal attacks. Please calm down. BG7even 18:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please point to which two comments have been personal attacks. Thank you, Either way (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The message above, "There ya go someone's objected. Either way (talk) 18:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)" and also one to Tharnton345 at the next update page about hus Jupiter rings nomination. Thanks, BG7even 18:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfA...

Hello Bluegoblin7, you probably saw it coming, but at a more or less 50% support, I cannot reasonably promote you to Admin. Sorry. I have closed your RfA. Try to work on the issues pointed out, and perhaps you have more luck next time. Please also do not misread the result: this is about you becoming admin, not your work in this WP in general. --Eptalon (talk) 18:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent decision. Bhtpbank (talk) 07:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not comment on wether the decision is good or not. You have an opinion, but it isn't the same necessarily as other people.Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 16:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What? Why was Bhtpbank's comment struck? Juliancolton (talk) 16:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Probably because it could be defined as a personal attack to BG7. Cheers, Razorflame 16:52, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it could be considered as a PA. It made me angry and sad at the same time, so I don't imagine what BG would feel. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 16:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How is agreeing with the closing 'crat a personal attack? Juliancolton (talk) 16:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't but saying it was an excellent decision is a diffrent matter and it's obviously because Bhtpbank doesn't like BG. Yotcmdr =talk to the commander= 17:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alright then. Juliancolton (talk) 17:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my recent request for adminship, which passed with a total of 21/5. I will try to the best of my abilities to maintain the trust of the community, and I will carefully consider the opposes to learn how to further improve. Cheers, Juliancolton (talk) 14:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Signature

Hello Bluegoblin.

Whgy did u change ur sig? TurboGolf 04:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was getting bored of my old one ;) I'd had it for a year or so now too. Goblin 12:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nice new sig.-- Chris†ianMan16 t c r 23:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating PGA and PVGA

Hello Bluegoblin7. Can I suggest instead of making multiple nominations across both PGA and PVGA, you pick a single article to try to get to Good Article status? At the moment you´re nominating articles which are nowhere near ready for voting and wasting a lot of reviewing effort of other editors. Try looking at other VGA/GAs to see what we´re trying to achieve as good or very good articles. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 19:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TRM,
Just to clarify, I have only nominated one article for a GA, and that is Crich Tramway Village. The rest has been clerking, taking articles nominated by others to !voting. The signature and time stamp is just for personal reference so that I know when to close them. Many thanks, Goblin 20:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, well since so many of them are quick-failing, perhaps you could, in your clerking role, remove them until they are in a more suitable state. The GA/VGA process is poor enough as it is without flooding the proposal area with articles which are nowhere near good enough, I´m sure you´ll agree. Cheers. The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 20:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I do agree, and I do check articles before I take them to !voting. I base my decision around the comments that have been made, whether they have been responded too and what state the article is currently in etc. If there is a reasonable chance that they can be fixed before !voting closes, then I will list them. If there's no chance, I don't. With the current group I felt that they all had a moderate chance, and so used the initiative to take them to !voting. The reason for the low quality and large amount of articles is that we had a push because it was drying up. It appears that people were submitting sub-standard articles. Hey-ho. Goblin 20:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Hey! Get on MSN/IRC? Kennedy (talk) 20:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will be on both in about 45. If it's what I think it is... see your talk! Goblin 20:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]