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“I jealously guard my research time, and I love fully immersing myself in those dusty old books and papers and stacks. It's one of the most enjoyable parts of my day.” ― Carriearchdale

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Thanks[change source]

Hello, Carriearchdale. Thank you for your changes to Ronald Reagan. It was nice to see someone understand about dividing compound sentences.

I noticed that you made a lot of changes to Big Brother (TV series), including removing red links. On this Wikipedia, we prefer to keep most red links, even on articles that are tagged for having a lot of them. We see the red links as a way to determine what articles we are missing. Instead of unlinking the terms, we prefer to create the articles. Of course, no one is expected to create articles for every red link they find, so red links should usually stay. I have put back the ones you removed. Besides removing them, the way you removed some of them left bad coding behind. That's because you removed some that were piped, and you left the pipe coding.

Again, thanks for your changes, and welcome to Simple English Wikipedia. Feel free to let me know if you have questions about how things are done here -- we're a bit different from other Wikipedias. -- Carriearchdale (talk) 07:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply. Are there any other tags I might find on articles here that shouldn't be done or worked on? Thanks for the help. I am planning on working on some references that are incorrect so I plan to hang around, and do some work here. Do you know of any actual projects here that need help. I will work some more on the Reagan article tomorrow.
I read over your info on your page with links and reference points. You did a quite fine job there I must say. Is it okay with you if I copy some of the parts onto a resources page for me in my userspace?
Have a great night, and thanks again. Carriearchdale (talk) 07:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Well, I wouldn't say the red links tag shouldn't be worked on, just that we work on it differently. Offhand, I can't think of anything else that shouldn't be worked on.
As far as projects that need help, I can think of a couple of things. One is expanding stub articles. We have a lot of stub articles in many different subject areas that could be expanded. Sometimes it seems that people think a simple article has to be short, but that isn't the case. The other thing I can think of is simplifying existing articles, because many of the articles here aren't as simple as they should be. To simplify, you have to understand how to write in simple language. Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages gives good basic information on that and links to some other helpful pages. Does either of those things sound like something you'd want to work on? If you want something more technical and more tedious, I could think of something along those lines, too!
I'm not sure what exactly you're asking if you can copy to your userspace. If it's something in my userspace, copy whatever you like -- it's all public information. Let me know what exactly you're interested in, because some of the things were basic notes for myself and I didn't write everything that goes with them.
Other than that, take some time to see how things work here. Maybe read our Manual of Style, which includes notes on some of the things we do differently. Let me know if you have other questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Dealing with a vandal[change source]

Nice to meet you: hope you enjoy being here. However: about User:, when you find a serious repeating vandal, please don't pussyfoot! Leave a note at WP:Vandalism in progress so an admin can put him out of action (if warranted). Some people just have to be stopped. Cheers, Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:34, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I will definitely leave a note at WP:VIP when I see another repeating vandal. I really want to do a good job in helping to stop vandalism. Do you have any other pointers to share? Thanks for the note and please have a fabulous day! Carriearchdale (talk) 08:31, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism[change source]

Thanks for your report at WP:VIP. You could have used either the test page option or the vandalism option for that. When the page has something objectionable, I usually use the vandalism option. Don't worry too much about getting it exactly right, though. As long as the page really does need to be deleted, the admin who deletes it can choose a different option if necessary. Does that help? --Auntof6 (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

yes, thanks. Carriearchdale (talk) 02:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Multiple changes to one article[change source]

If you can, try to make all your changes to an article with one edit. For one thing, fewer updates means less work for the computers where the articles are stored. For another, it makes it easier on the people here who look through the new changes. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The reason I edit the way I do is that I am visually impaired. I have my screen resolution set so that I can see like a section or paragraph at a time. I make the needed changes and then save the edit. I am really sorry if the method I use to make changes is making more work for the computers where the articles are stored. Carriearchdale (talk) 03:24, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
In that case, don't worry about it! Thanks for the work you're doing even though it's extra difficult for you! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:56, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Creevykeel Court Tomb[change source]

Hi, Carrie. I just tagged this article as needing simplifying. Would you like me to move it to your userspace for you to work on? If I don't, I'm afraid someone will ask for it to be deleted because it's the same as the English Wikipedia version. What do you think? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

It is not the same as the version. I put that version in my sandbox and worked on simplyfy-ing it. I am so sorry to causing trouble. Please just delete it if you want, and I will go away. Carriearchdale (talk) 23:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
You are not causing trouble, and I do not want you to go away! You're still learning about this Wiki, but I think you're learning faster than most people do here and you've done some very good and much-needed work. All of us had to go through a period of learning the differences here, so don't feel bad.
As for the article, I do see a couple of places where it was simplified, so I apologize for missing those earlier. It still needs some more, though. I'll do some simplifying to show you what I mean. Please don't go away! --Auntof6 (talk) 23:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
OK, I simplified the article some more. Let me know if you have any questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello![change source]

Thanks! I just forgot to sign in. :)

I enjoy editing Wikipedia, especially in my free time.

Cheers! Tjanaka (talk) 01:32, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

no worries!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 18:52, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Constellations[change source]

See Aunt's comments on your new constellation articles. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:50, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Note taken, thanks! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 04:59, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Putting references after the punctuation[change source]

I noticed that you did some work to put references after the punctuation at the end of the sentences they go with. Thanks for that! I thought you might like to know there's a place that lists articles that need this fix. It's at this link. That site is part of the Check Wikipedia project, which scans the articles every day looking for different kinds of things. Let me know if you'd like more information about it. Thanks again! --Auntof6 (talk) 06:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that is the site I use when working on those. I have it saved on my to do list. It gets a little tedious doing them one at a time though. It would be much easier to do them with AWB, I think there are more than 3000 listed for simple. I have been working on adding references to all the unreferenced BLPs. Those make quite a list as well. Looks like there is plenty of work to do around here! Thanks!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 06:09, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Have you thought of asking for authorization to use AWB here? We're fairly particular about giving AWB access and about what it can be used for, but working on Check Wikipedia stuff is the kind of thing that's likely to be approved. If you're interested, the place to request it is Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:01, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
That is a good idea. I will put a request together to do the reference/punctuation corrections from the Check Wikipedia list. Thanks for the info! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 22:21, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

External links, Other websites[change source]

Hi, Carrie. You probably didn't know, but on this Wikipedia we use "Other websites" instead of "External links" for a section heading. That's because it's simpler language. I changed it in Marc Okrand. Another different heading we use is "Related pages" instead of "See also". When you create articles, please be sure to use the standard headings for this Wikipedia. Thanks! This information is explained in our manual of style. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:23, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I do know that. I am very familiar with the differences now. I missed switching that external links to the "Other websites" we use here. I do apologize. Thanks for changing it. ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 06:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Your suggestion[change source]

Dear Carrie, hello. Thank you for your comments/suggestion tag regarding some problems with the language in the new article I created on the famed Lahore Heera Mandi, a major cultural landmark here. I generally do try to keep the language as simple as possible, but possibly this article might be difficult. Could you kindly advise how exactly I could improve it, either by leaving me a note on my Talk Page or on the article's Talk Page? That would be helpful. If you could actually also help by working on it yourself, that would be great and also provide me a better understanding of how to go about writing better, for the Simple Wikipedia. One is constantly learning. With many thanks and good wishes again, Hamneto (talk)Hamneto

Sure, I will work on it some tonight, and also leave some other suggestions on the talk page of the article. Thanks for the note! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 01:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello and thanks! I have seen your very kind help, all that work youve put in. I hope I understand some points better now and shall try to follow the rules youve given. I have also noted the point about putting the period before the reference, sorry that you had to go through this repetitive little correction so many times. Many good wishes,Hamneto (talk) 20:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)Hamneto
You are quite welcome! I really enjoy reading over the articles you have authored. I like to learn about the rich cultures in Pakistan and India. As far as the reference error, no worries there!!! That is a very common error some editors make. I am working on a list of over 3000 of them here, and I plan to correct them each and every one. It is something I like to do. And now you have learned a new thing! I always like to learn one or two new things, if not more everyday. Please do let me know if you have any questions on anything else. I will keep an eye on Heera Mandi until we get it all simplified, and then we can remove the tag on there. Have a great evening!!!
ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 21:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[change source]

I just wanted to stop by and express my gratitude for your noticing my new article and sending thanks. ツ That made my day, really. It has been a while since I have been thanked here. It is good to meet you and I wish you all the best. (and I love your pink page). Happy editing! Fylbecatulous talk 15:49, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Re[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale! Nice to hear from you again. I'm just coming back from an on/off Wikibreak, so I'm getting ready to start adding to Simple Wiki again. Thanks for the talk page message~ ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 11:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

So tell me...[change source]

How (and why) does a person develop a professional-level knowledge of the Klingon language? :) I'm impressed with all the languages you have on your user page. Languages are an interest of mine, but I don't know nearly that many. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:47, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, I studied film (movies here at simple, lol) at university. I was interested in languages and linguistics. I was really fascinated with how Okrand constructed a whole language for Paramount. I ended up doing my thesis on the Klingon language while finishing up my masters work at Stanford.
Thanks for asking...Here you go, if you need a good insult for someone you depose, say this:
Hab SoSlI' Quch! to get the right sound -->
translation = Your mother has a smooth forehead! If you have seen star trek the klingon's foreheads are big and jut out. I guess it is sort of like an insult in the yo mamma is so____ jokes.
There are lots of people now that are quite fluent in Klingon now. We have several members who translated Hamlet. Also, a group is working on a translation of the bible. I am working on translation for some of the Seuss books. This one guy and his wife are bringing up their 2 year old boy to be bi-lingual. Mommy speaks English to the child, and daddy only speaks Klingon to him. We have a literary magazine, and word of the day emails. It is really kind of fun.
ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 03:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Cool. :) Yes, I have been a Star Trek fan since the beginning, so I understand the reference. You remind me of the scene in Star Trek V where one of the Klingons talks about reading Shakespeare in the orginal Klingon! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:58, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Narratology category[change source]

Since "narratology" is not a simple word/concept, would you please put something on the category explaining what it includes? Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:50, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Not sure how you want that done. We could append "study of narrative" or "study of narrative structure" Or just change the name of the category altogether. Which do you think would be best?
ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 19:53, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking of just putting one sentence at the top to explain what it is, or maybe writing an article for it. The term "narrative" isn't simple, either, though, so the phrases you suggest wouldn't help much. However, changing the name would be even better if there's a simpler term for it.
By the way, please be sure that the articles you create for this are more than just dictionary definitions (dicdefs). I tagged one as a dicdef, but some of the others are close to being dicdefs as well. Dicdef articles are subject to being moved to Wiktionary and deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:02, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
After some thought I think the best idea is to do an article on narratology which fully explains what it is in the simplest of terms. I will work on it. thanks! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 02:15, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Re:Welcome[change source]

Thank you. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 23:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

12 Treasures of Spain/Doñana National Park[change source]

It seems to me that Category:12 Treasures of Spain should contain the actual 12 treasures, and not other places. If we want a category for properties that were in the running but weren't selected, they should be in a separate category underneath that one. Do you have any suggestions of what to name that category? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:33, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking the category itself is about the contest for the 12 Treasures of Spain. That would include the winners and named finalists. Of course we could make a category for the Finalists in the 12 Treasures of Spain, and move the finalists over. If you think that is better? It really is neither here or there to me. Which do you think would be most proper? Carriearchdale (talk) 05:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
I would make a separate category for the finalists. Otherwise, since the category name doesn't mention a contest, people could be confused about why there are more than 12 entries.
By the way, I also noticed that the infobox for Doñana National Park shows an invalid designation. It's probably a case of our template needing to be updated -- I'll look at it when I get a chance, if no one else gets to it first. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:25, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikify tags[change source]

I noticed that you put wikify tags on articles such as Málaga Cathedral. When you do that, would you put notes on the talk page about what you think needs to be done? I don't see any wikifying that needs to be done on the ones I saw. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:39, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations![change source]

You're past due for your first book, so here it is!

This editor is a Journeyman Editor and is entitled to display this Wikipedia Little Red Book.

--Auntof6 (talk) 05:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I really appreciate you sending it. I really have been enjoying working here with you and all the others at Simple English Wikipedia. ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 05:18, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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Flood flag[change source]

Carrie, wouldn't it be better to have a flood flag for WP:CLEANER edits? You seem to be flooding Recent Changes... Regards, George.Edward.C (Talk) (Contributions) 16:22, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Personally I'd prefer to see these edits in recent changes - there's no real need to hide them and it's fairly easy to filter them out of RC if you're so inclined. That and, of course, FF requires an administrator to be around when required, which can be a pain. Just my 2 cents, of course. Goblin 16:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC) I ♥ Bsadowski1!
It really depends on the scale, but I suppose it would be a pain to apply/remove. George.Edward.C (Talk) (Contributions) 16:54, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I think these changes are fine to show in recent changes. It is quite simple to filter them out if so desired. ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 17:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
It does't depend on scale, it depends on what the edits are. In this case the edits could affect page content and so should never be hidden. Flood flag is only for mass changes that are not related to content. Keep doing a great job, Carrie. Goblin 17:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC) I ♥ GoblinBots!
thanks, Goblin!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 18:48, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough, my apoligies. Keep up the good work! George.Edward.C (Talk) (Contributions) 18:01, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
np, thanks! ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 04:12, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome![change source]


Thank you for your welcome message on October 10th!

I am a new editor, and I am still learning. I plan to make all of my edits and contributions to the Simple language pages. Thank you for providing the helpful links.

I hope this is the right place to contact you!

Thanks again!

Kfb001 (talk) 16:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Kfb001,

I am sorry, but I did not see your note before. Please post here on my talk page if you have any questions about editing, or if there is something you made need me to help you with. (Also pop in now and then to say HI!) Thanks for posting a note to my page. Happy editing to you! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 09:17, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Monuments of Spain Challenge[change source]

Hi! Wikimedia España, the Spanish Chapter, is carrying out a writting contest about monuments in Spain, that you can find here. I'm checking edits and I've found out that you wrote Palma Cathedral. That article would qualify! By the way, there's no article in Japanese about Palma Cathedral!. es:Usuario:B25es

Gracias, I do thank you for contacting me. I will check it out for sure! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 13:25, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Categories on user pages[change source]

Please don't add categories to someone else's user or user talk page without their approval. Besides that, user categories usually go on the user page, not the user talk page. I have removed the category you put on my talk page. If I want a category on any of my user pages, I will add it myself.

What is Highbeam? --Auntof6 (talk) 16:53, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

I left a message on your page. Please accept my apology. I was at the bottom of your page when I had left a note there. I got distracted and then tried to add a cat on what I thought was my page. It was purely a mistake. High Beam is a research tool that you can sign up for when they have accounts available. I will find the link if you are interested. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 16:57, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
OK, no problem. I thought you might be letting me know I had access to the tool. I personally don't like user categories, so I don't usually add them except when a userbox forces me to. I'd be interested in learning about Highbeam. I've been doing research often for work on Wikimedia Commons, and it might be helpful there. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:39, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
You are in luck. Looks like they are still taking applications for the access to HighBeam. Try looking on this page. [1] ciao!!! Carriearchdale 17:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

River categories[change source]

Hi, Carrie. I noticed that some of your recent river articles had both the category Category:Rivers of New South Wales and Category:Geography of New South Wales. Since the river category is a child of the geography category, we only need the river category. You can read more about this kind of thing at Wikipedia:Categories#Choosing the correct category. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:20, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for the note. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 08:35, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Welcoming users[change source]

Hi, Carrie. I see that you like to welcome new users. One of the users you welcomed, Maestro frog 1837, has made all bad edits. Maybe no one mentioned it before, but we prefer not to welcome users until we see what kind of contributions they are making. If a user makes bad contributions, we can either not welcome them or use a welcome specifically for vandals. In this case, your welcome came after all the users edits, but maybe you didn't check them to see that they were good. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:23, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

You are right. I missed the bad ones there. I will check out the edits more carefully. Note taken. Thanks, Carriearchdale 07:06, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Update user rights[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale, I have given you patroller rights, which means your edits will not be flagged for checking, a right long overdue. I have also given you rollback rights which makes it easier to revert vandalism. I am sure you will use the new tool properly. any questions, just ask. Also I am enjoying seeing Australian pages being added, so as we would say here, "Goodonya mate," --Peterdownunder (talk) 11:31, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Peterdownunder! I am working on getting a lot of the Australia articles started, but the I want to go back and expand some of them. Good day! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 12:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[change source]

Thanks brother.

You are quite welcome. Please do let me know if you have any questions on here. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 11:19, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Super[change source]

You beat me to it! I was just about to mark the page Kongresi i vjenes when you already QD'd it! Nice job!Amanda Call Me 14:29, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 14:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Fleming crater[change source]

I noticed your message to Aunt this morning regarding the template problem and the article you’re working on. First, the only fix to this problem I’ve found so far is to avoid the {{cite book}} template. I just put a manual source citation in its place. Or (you may know this already), if you cite a book from Google books, click on 'Find in a library'. This links you to Worldcat listing the citation information GB doesn't (place, publisher, date, etc.). In the upper right of the worldcat screen is 'Cite/Export'. Click, choose your citation style and it writes the citation for you except for the page number(s). Secondly, the transwiki article you’re working on has a (general) references section that is essentially for show only. Most sources on this list do not even mention Fleming crater or, of those few who do, mention only the name. The list is one that someone has repeatedly used on several crater articles and is basically of no value to the individual article. The enwiki article also misses the most interesting thing about Fleming crater—the two people it’s named for. A couple of sources you might find useful are:

Anyway, I hope this helps and good luck with your articles. Rus793 (talk) 15:12, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I had not gotten to the part of checking the references there yet, so thanks for the heads up. I always check the refs carefully, and make sure they are all valid before putting the article in main space. I never just trust the refs from en.wp. Lots of time they are dead links or 403 codes. And like you say sometimes they are not really good strong references. I tend to be too thorough, lol! It was late last night. So I will take a look at them tonight. Thanks for your note. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 17:51, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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Biographies of living people[change source]

Carrie, for now, please stop nominating BLPs for deletion based on their having no sources. Instead, please start a general discussion about it at WP:Simple talk. I personally would support changing our practice to delete unsourced BLPs because of the legal issues involved. BLPs should have sources, yes, but it has not been our practice here to be as insistent on sources as enwiki is. That is a failing on our part, but there needs to be some kind of heads-up to the community before we start being stricter. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:07, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

And please also make sure you follow WP:BEFORE prior to nominating, it is up to the nominator to do a good faith search for notability sources prior to nominating. Most of these articles required a simple switch to the English page to grab one, and the others were within the first one or two pages of google results. -DJSasso (talk) 12:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Being tagged for having NO sources since April 2012 ( 2 1/2 years ago) reeks of neglecting BLP requirements[change source]

You may be sure that I am familiar with WP:BESURE. To quote, "The main four guidelines and policies that inform deletion discussions: notability (WP:N), verifiability (WP:V), reliable sources (WP:RS), and what Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT)."

@DJSasso - For you to even imply that I did not act in good faith while nominating some BLP articles that had no sources added (even after they were tagged for it two and a half years ago) is simply laughable. I think that maybe you are more upset about what I posted here from one of the articles currently up for deletion. [2]

"So it may meet en:WP:NFOOTBALL, but it definitely does not meet BLP requirements. The article has been sitting here does not meeting BLP requirements since April 2012. It was tagged for no source in April 2012. (2 1/2 years ago?) I think that is a long long time ago. This situation does not reflect well on sewp at all"

I was glad to see that you took the time to volunteer to try to find sources for the articles. That is great and good for the project overall!

At least @Auntof6 was more open and frank with her comments above. "I personally would support changing our practice to delete unsourced BLPs because of the legal issues involved. BLPs should have sources, yes, but it has not been our practice here to be as insistent on sources as enwiki is. That is a failing on our part, but there needs to be some kind of heads-up to the community before we start being stricter." I really appreciated her comment because she seemed to understand that leaving all those BLP article subjects with no sources for over two years, was a "failing on our part" not to mention an important BLP issue. Kudos to you Auntof6 for being quite honest.

But please DJSasso do not come here and try to insinuate I ever acted in bad faith here, because if you truly think that, you are QUITE mistaken!!!

ciao!!! Carriearchdale 13:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I did not insinuate that you acted in bad faith. If anything I indicated that you acted out of ignorance of the requirements to do a good faith search for sources. If you were aware of that requirement you would have done so however, you clearly did not do so or else you would have found the same ones I found right on the English version of the page. We are considerably more lenient on how fast articles need sources here for a very good reason, we have at most 20 active editors. In order for us to grow faster we have through many discussion decided not to be as tough on sources as can afford to be now that they are as large as they are. -DJSasso (talk) 13:32, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
I "acted out of ignorance"? Reeeeaaaalllllllllllly? I do hope you have a great day DJSasso!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 13:38, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Not knowing something exists means you are ignorant of it yes. So if you do something not knowing you were supposed to do something else then that means you were ignorant of it (aka acting in ignorance). -DJSasso (talk) 13:42, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
You really do not need to be so condescending towards me in your posts. I am well aware of what "acting out of ignorance" means. So now you are making suppositions about what I did or did not know, "if you do something not knowing you were supposed to do something else then that means you were ignorant of it." I was not aware that you can also read minds DJSasso. Wikipedia is so lucky to have you here. I would appreciate it if you would stick to the deletion nomination discussion pages in the future when you would like to discuss or comment on any issues (broadly construed) surrounding any deletion nomination discussions. Thank you. Again, please do go out and have a quite fancy day!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 13:55, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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Carrie, please calm down. Djsasso has not made a personal attack against you. The word "ignorant" sometimes has a bad connotation, but all it really means is that a person doesn't know something. We all have something we're ignorant of. All Djsasso is saying is that either you knew about the requirement to look for sources before nominating at RfD, or you didn't. If you didn't, then you do now and you can look for sources in the future. If you did know about the requirement, then it appears you may have chosen not to follow it. That would reflect badly on you, so Djsasso is giving you the benefit of the doubt. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

For Reference - note to self[change source]

Don't template the regulars --- from [3]

Don't template the regulars This essay contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints.

"These templates serve to explain the various policies to new editors. When novice editors breach policies, it is quite possible (if we assume good faith, which we must) that they are unaware of them, and educating them is helpful. On the other hand, most editors who have been around for a while are aware of these policies. If you believe that they have broken (or are about to breach) one, it is frequently the result of some disagreement over the interpretation of the policy, or temporarily heated tempers. In such situations, sticking to "did you know we had a policy here" mentality tends to be counter-productive in resolving the issue, as it can be construed as being patronising and uncivil."

Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines. Carriearchdale 14:50, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Albert Bierstadt - Niagara Falls

Painting by Albert Bierstadt-Niagara Falls

Re[change source]

Thank You

I'm learning English and I was told by an experienced Wikipedian to the Simple English Wikipedia is an academic with one of its purposes to help teach the language. So I added the article. I wrote with the help of books, sources and translators, but upon returning to the simple English wiki, I noticed that she was deleted quickly, even though sources with the answers I had many errors. Maybe a few, but not many. The same article was accepted in English and in Spanish, without restriction. The main source is a newspaper of the date of death of the politician who relates to your life.

So, I found an outrage his summary deletion without satisfactory explanations.

Thanks for understanding, but I have no more interest to appear in "simple".

I'm putting this answers in English and Portuguese.


Estou aprendendo o inglês e me foi dito por um experiente wikipedista que o Simples Inglês é uma wikipédia acadêmica e uma das suas finalidades de ajudar a ensinar a língua. Por isso adicionei o artigo. Escrevi com a ajuda de livros, fontes e tradutores, mas ao retornar da wiki inglesa para a simples, verifiquei que ela foi deletada rapidamente, mesmo tendo fontes com a respostas que tinha muitos erros. Talvez poucos, mas muitos não. O mesmo artigo foi aceito na inglesa e na espanhola, sem restrição. A fonte principal é um jornal da data da morte do político que relata a sua vida.

Portanto, achei um ultraje sua deleção sumária sem explicações satisfatória.

Obrigada pela compreensão, mas não tenho mais o interesse de aparecer na "simples".

Estou colocando esta respostas em inglês e português. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 16:43, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

E diga, ou fale, para o Auntof6, que o que esta na infocaixa de José Sarney (His Excellency), é algo muito, muito formal, não utilizado a décadas com uma autoridade como presidente. Como não é usado, chega a ser um termo pejorativo (usado em tom de brincadeira, utilizado em programas humorísticos e banda desenhada de humor), fato que não existe em nenhum outro artigo similar, inclusive na wikipédia lusófona. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 17:00, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Resolving empty sections[change source]

Hi, Carrie. I noticed you've been making changes related to empty sections. When you do that, please think about whether the section needs the empty section template added, or whether it might be better/okay to just remove the section or leave it empty. If it's a "Related pages", "References", "Other websites" or similar section, it's probably better to just remove the heading. In chronology articles such as 1000, it's probably okay to leave an empty section. The headings in the chronology articles are placeholders to show editors where to put content when there is some -- we don't always have something for every section in those, and those articles are treated differently from regular prose articles anyway.

In general, when working with things flagged at Check Wikipedia, treat the data as indications that something might be a problem. That data is built by software that can't understand that some of the things it's flagging might be okay. A good example of this is the error IDs related to having lower case characters in DEFAULTSORTs: that code was written before the Wikipedia software changed to ignore case in sort keys, so having lower case in them isn't a problem now.

Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:16, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Tyche[change source]

Hello Carriearchdale, I just wanted to let you know that I added your edits to the Tyche article, so they did not vanish with the deletion of the other article about Tyche. --Eptalon (talk) 08:57, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

I do thank you for trying to help. I was wondering what was really going on when I looked at this diff. {]] Why would anyone template an article with a QD and then at the same time remove the only reference on the article? I thought I saw where you did say that since a wait template down that it would move to a discussion. I had all the info and five minutes later when I tried to complete my article, I found that Auntof6 deleted again using a QD rationale. That doesn't sound at all rational to me. Please tell me Eptalon, how did all that exactly turn out like that? I am confused over the sequence of what happened? Thanks again for helping! (someone deleted the diff or something because when You try to go to it now it tells me it was deleted. But you are an admin and all you can probably look at what was deleted? Otherwise I guess I could make you a screenshot of it if you cannot find it under the deleted parts. I still have an open tab of it. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 09:13, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Basically, I saw the qd template, and a wait template, so I proposed it for deletion (at any rate, it was ill-named); the script removed the qd-templated, but not the wait template, which I removed manually. I am not responsible for what Auntof6 did, you will have to ask her... -Eptalon (talk) 09:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
While we are at it, can we focus on having only one article about Tyche? - We currently have two, for the mythpöpgical Tyche... -Eptalon (talk) 09:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I certainly do not see why not? everything has become much clearer now! Thanks to you! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 09:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I'll try to explain what I did. First, a timeline of what happened:
  • The article was created with the content "bob".
  • Rus793 requested QD/A1 (little or no meaning)
  • Carriearchdale placed a {{wait}} template. As far as I could tell, she didn't say anything about why we should wait.
  • Carriearchdale made improvements to the article, turning it into an article about Tyche.
  • Eptalon changed the QD to an RfD request, saying that since the RfD was contested it should go to RfD.
  • Carriearchdale made further changes to the page.
At this point, I saw the RfD and looked at the history of the page. The things I thought were relevant were:
  • The page title was not an appropriate one. No amount of improvement to the content could resolve that.
  • We already had a page about Tyche. (In fact, it turns out that there are two.) With one exception, all the info on the page at RfD was in the Tyche article. The exception was the statement about Eudora being Tyche's sister. That appeared to me to be untrue, since Tyche and Eudora had different parents, so I did not think it should be added to the existing article.
Since the title was not a good one and we already had all the useable content in the duplicate article, I chose to delete the article. Note that placing a wait notice does not mean an article automatically goes to RfD. It means that an editor is requesting the article be kept, but it is not a guarantee that it will be kept. A wait request usually doesn't carry much weight if no reason is giving for keeping the page.
I am sorry that the article got deleted while you were working on it. If you want, it can be restored to your userspace so you can retrieve what was in it. Any work on the topic should of course be made to the existing article.
I'd be glad to answer any questions you have. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
from [4] [1] "Tyche is listed as one of the Oceanids (daughters of the Titans Tethys and Okeanos) in the Theogony of Hesiod. Indeed, paired with her sister Eudora, she and her sibling together represent a combination of Bounty and Luck according to the Oxford Classical Dictionary." ciao!!! Carriearchdale 10:52, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Then this may be one of those confusing cases where either there is more than one character with the name, or there isn't agreement about who the family is. Those are a pain to deal with! --Auntof6 (talk) 11:35, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Canadians watching the Horseshoe Falls

References[change source]

  1. Tyche in Greek Mythology

Stock market[change source]

Could you put something on this article's talk page to say what you think needs to be simplified? Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:35, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I will do that if I do not simplify it enough. I am planning to work on this one tonight to get it simplified. Do me a favor and read it over later on to double check it. Would you?

ciao!!! Carriearchdale 04:43, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Sure, and thanks in advance for taking care of it. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:27, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
You are indeed quite welcome!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 05:32, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
This article was way out of date, as regards to current concepts of the stock market. I updated as much as I could in that realm. I split out most of the compound sentences. When writing an article about stock trading, it is hard to use no non-simple words. Financials, trading stocks, and such are not really well suited for adhering to the simple english protocols. I guess it is sort of like the science articles. I am leaving the complex tag on for now. I will list some of the complex words on the articles talk page. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 06:08, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I did some simplifying on it as well. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

thanks a lot![change source]

im delighted to see that there are also some nice, reasonable and good people here - who are not willing to destroy pages of knowledge without even giving a the slightest effort to think or search if its really necessary to delete it.

a few good articles that I hade put already quit an effort to write it, some unthinkable human deleted it without even noticing me first, (for example: about my beloved notable cantor Julia R. Cadrain).

that's why I don't try now to write anymore - at first - a complete article. (for incidence: Motel the Operator, a amazing recovered 1940 movie from really importence for the almost lost yiddish culture, was deleted before I even got a chance to contribute all the evidence an information that I hade collected.

anyhow, I really appreciate your time and work! keep it up. נייגעריגער (talk) 18:20, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps we should collaborate on a few resurrection articles and then some films, and actors. I will gladly work with you. All the ones I have seen you put up lately could be made into good articles. I could help you find the referencing and you could put the article up. What do you say? I will look up you beloved cantor. I will knock that out and give it to you to improve as you wish and post if you dare. I liked it in the discussion where you said

quote keep even though its an episode within a series, it is a truly a notable separate long film for itself with really well known actors, which received mainly positive reviews. and the fact that the we don't have (yet) an article on that series, is not even an argument for dummies. on a side note: I don't get why people are so eager to nominate pages for deletion - (and sometimes before even making the minimal research). do you seriously hate knowledge? נייגעריגער (talk) 11:29, 23 November 2014 (UTC) endquote

Now that was a point well spoken!!! I just knew I was going to like you my new friend at simple wikipedia!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 18:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Miguel Gila[change source]

Thanks for the welcome and for fix the gramma too! at the article. I'm glad to stay here. Good afternoon!. I just saw in your userpage you understand several languages, that's great. Nowadays i'd be trying to improve my English level because happened long time ago i don't practise it. In fact, this Wikipedia is very helpful for me in that way. I can write in English, although sometimes i make some mistakes (specially with the past verbs xD) --Ravave (talk) 18:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

I am glad to see you here now. Please keep writing some more articles. I will work with you, and correct all the grammar and stuff. I like helping others. When you make a new article, leave a note here for me with the link, and I will be glad to copyedit for you. I can also clear up any translation issues as well. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 18:45, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

New article:[change source]

This time about Chernobyl disaster xD. The article's title is Chernokids. Take it a look when as you can and if you find any error, you're free to fix it, bye!. --Ravave (talk) 11:52, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

 Done I left a note on your talk page. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 18:24, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

The cookies were lovely[change source]

Choco chip cookie bitten.jpg Fylbecatulous has enjoyed your cookies and is giving you a great big hug.
  • A very welcome breakfast. ツ Fylbecatulous talk 15:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
  • In fact, they were so good and it is so cold where I am, I have decided to make coffee. Hope you are doing well. All the best, as always. Fylbecatulous talk 15:34, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

moving pages that are at rfd[change source]

Hi, Carrie. Would you please not move pages that have an open request for deletion? Doing that breaks links on the rfd page. Also, if the article ends up being kept, it makes it trickier to close the request. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk)


November 2014[change source]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. You might not have done it on purpose, but your recent change removed helpful information from Wikipedia. We ask that you do not remove things from pages, as you did to "Fleming (crater)", without giving a good reason in the change summary. If it was a mistake, do not worry. The part of the article you removed has been put back. If you want to try things out, please use the sandbox. If you would like to learn how to help Wikipedia, please see the welcome page. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 05:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Niagara Falls by paul (dex)
Magical White Hare vs. Edward Williams

Magical White Hare vs. Edward Williams[change source]

Carrie, it doesn't help to change the "Magical White Hare" article into an article about Williams. If you want an article about Williams, start a separate article. I'm going to revert your changes, but they will still be available in the page history if you decide to write an article on Williams. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Title change are one thing, changing the subject of an article is something different. Don't change the subject of an article that is at RfD, because it negates all the comments that have been made. Why not just make a new article? --Auntof6 (talk) 21:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello Carriearchdale, I have removed the protection from the article; it can again be changed by anyone. As to the RFD: I was able to find the collection mentioned in the article, but I was not able to find the story, under that name. This looks odd, since the collection is from the 1850s, so over 150 years old. I know, this is probably beyond the scope of this project here, but would it not make sense getting the story into Wikisource, or referencing a freely accessible source in the article? --Eptalon (talk) 13:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello Carriearchdale, I just wanted to let you know that I was unable to find a story under that name. Given that the author lived in the 18th/19th century, this is highly unusual. Providing a link to the story (as in: This edition of that book, or some link to a website containing the story) could improve the chances of this article not being deleted...--Eptalon (talk) 10:28, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Mort & Phil[change source]

Hi fellow. I see you take a holiday, well, take a break, you deserve it xD. I make an other article, take a look when you have time. --Ravave (talk) 18:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, i'm in right now. Thanks for fix the gramma. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. --Ravave (talk) 18:19, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

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Fourth wall[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale, I have enjoyed reading your article on the Fourth wall. As a former drama teacher, I think you have provided a great explanation. I have done a little bit of simplifying, especially where words may have multiple meanings. If you wanted another article to fix up, Suspension of disbelief exists, but is in a poor state - unbalanced, unreferenced, more like a student essay than an article. Best wishes,--Peterdownunder (talk) 05:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I will definitely look at the Suspension of disbelief article when I get back. Thank-you for working a bit on the forth wall. A drama teacher, wow, very nice! It was not the easiest concept to explain in very simple terms, so I do appreciate your comments and help. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 08:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Writing in simple English[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale, simplifying articles into Simple English is not an easy task, in fact is is the challenge of trying to explain complex ideas simply that I enjoy the most. There is a website I use that allows you to check on the simplicity of the language - Readability of Wikipedia. It also compares the scores of a page on English Wikipedia, with the same page on Simple English Wikipedia. Readability scores calculated by a computer can be quite inaccurate, so treat with caution. I basically try to get a Flesch readability score above 60. Below 60 needs work. Above 70 is excellent, and also really hard. Short articles can be misleading with scores because there is not enough text to check. However, it is a useful tool. If I check Shapeshifting I can see that it is more complex on Simple that it is on enwiki, also it is below 60. These two scores tell me that the article needs more work. See what you can do. If you use Firefox as a browser, there are other tricks of the trade too.--Peterdownunder (talk) 06:07, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for the note Peterdownunder. I simplified the sentences more, and got rid of some of the still complex words. Please check it again, if you have a moment. I am currently not at my regular home base, so if you feel it needs more simplification, please feel free if you are so inclined. I will be checking in and out sporadically for the next few days. btw, I was so sorry to hear of the tragedy in Sydney. Please be safe, and have a happy holiday season!

ciao!!! Carriearchdale 07:57, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Ursus maritimus Steve Amstrup

メリークリスマス![change source]

Merry Christmas Carrie! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 03:46, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note Sturmgewehr88!!! Happy new year to you too!!! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 15:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Tyche[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale, happy new year for 2015. I am concerned about the edits with Tyche and the similar page Tyche (Greek mythology). There is a proposal that these two should be merged. If you have reasons why they should not, could you discuss on the talk page, or Simple talk. I noted that you used revert to change an edit by AuntofSix. Revert must only be used for vandalism, which in this case it is not. If you wish to remove an edit you disagree with, then you should use the undo button. Misuse of the revert button, such as using it to change edits that are not vandalism, could result in access to the tool being removed. Also it becomes serious if you use the revert button on any long term established editor, as it is in efffect saying to the community that the editor is vandalizing the project. Sorry to be so strong in these comments, but you will see how a simple button click can lead to all sorts of unintended problems. So please be very careful. If you wish to argue the merge, then please do so through the proper channels, and the community can decide.--Peterdownunder (talk) 11:36, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

In this particular case, I clicked on the wrong word when intending to undo. I certainly intended no disrepute to the editor that had made that particular edit. Of course the edit had not been vandalism. I will be particularly careful. Thanks for the note Peterdownunder. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 15:30, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Carriearchdale, we have all pressed the wrong button at some time. Editors sometimes get a giant trout place on their page for doing such a thing! --Peterdownunder (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Categories in user space[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale, just doing a bit of routine cleaning around the place and noticed some content categories in your sandbox. On Simple English Wikipedia we do not include content categories in User spaces, I suppose because it may direct readers to articles that are still being developed or worked on. I can see you have a number of pages you have imported to work on which have active content categories in them. What most of us do in this situation is to disable the categories by putting a colon between the brackets and the word “Category”. When the article is moved into main space we delete the colons. If you could do this it would solve the problem, I would do it for you, but I don't like changing things in other people's user spaces unless it is really important. Look forward to seeing the finished products when they are ready, --Peterdownunder (talk) 12:48, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done thanks! Carriearchdale 14:08, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

disabling an automated cat[change source]

Hi Carriearchdale, thanks for removing the categories that were appearing in content space. It appears with the page on Tumby Bay in your sandbox, that the category is automatically generated by a template in the Infobox. I did a quick experiment to see if I could disable it without breaking it, and it worked. I have learned something new! In the first line of the info box, I have added a colon before the word town - "Infobox Australian place |type = :town ". This has turned the category off. When you go to move it to main space, simply delete that colon, and it should work and create the category again. It's a nice place, Tumby Bay, I was there about 18 months ago drinking coffee on the beach front.--Peterdownunder (talk) 02:32, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Peterdownuder! I knew that Tumby Bay one was a toughie. I tried everything I could think of. I even removed all the categories! lol I was hoping it was cached or something, but even with purging it stayed. I was going to check it again in the am, and see if it was some sort of glitch, but you have saved me the trouble. Thank you for figuring it out. Now we have both learned something new. That Tumby Bay caught my eye. It looks like it would be a wonderful place to visit or live. Thanks again! ciao!!! Carriearchdale 03:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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RfD nomination of Antiquarian[change source]

An editor has requested deletion of Antiquarian, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2015/Antiquarian and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Hydriz (talk) 13:27, 9 May 2015 (UTC)