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Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-27

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"The Road Goes Ever On" is a title that encompasses several walking songs that J. R. R. Tolkien wrote for his Middle-earth legendarium. Within the stories, the original song was composed by Bilbo Baggins and recorded in The Hobbit. Different versions of it also appear in The Lord of the Rings, along with some similar walking songs.

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Tech News: 2022-27

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 July. It will be on all wikis from 7 July (calendar).
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 5 July at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 7 July at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
  • The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout July. Discussions will look different. You can see some of the proposed changes.
  • This change only affects pages in the main namespace in Wikisource. The Javascript config variable proofreadpage_source_href will be removed from mw.config and be replaced with the variable prpSourceIndexPage. [1]

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19:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-28

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Everard Richard Calthrop (3 March 1857 – 30 March 1927) was a British railway engineer and inventor. Calthrop was a notable promoter and builder of narrow-gauge railways, especially of 2 ft 6 in (762 mm) narrow gauge, and was especially prominent in India. His most notable achievement was the Barsi Light Railway, but he is best known in his home country for the Leek and Manifold Valley Light Railway. Calthrop has been described as a "railway genius.

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Tech News: 2022-28

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  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 12 July at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

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19:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Danielle Judovits

File:Danielle Judovits in 2021.png

It's her I wanted to and wanna bring back onto Wikipedia, she began acting when she was 9 old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIdhj9YrZv8

https://en.everybodywiki.com/Danielle_Judovits

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0431957/

https://dubbing.fandom.com/wiki/Danielle_Judovits Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 06:09, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

None of these are reliable sources. --Ferien (talk) 14:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Xolo Maridueña

Xolo began acting in 2011.

File:Xolo Maridueña evidence.png

Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 19:22, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-29

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The Church of St. Clare, Horodkivka is a Roman Catholic religious building and an architectural monument of local importance in the village of Horodkivka (alternative spelling Gorodkivka), Andrushivka Raion, Zhytomyr region, Ukraine. Horodkivka was called Khalaimgorodok before 1946

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Tech News: 2022-29

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  • The feature on mobile web for Nearby Pages was missing last week. It will be fixed this week. [4]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 July. It will be on all wikis from 21 July (calendar).

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23:00, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Auli’i Cravalho

She's been dancing when she was 5 years old, 2005 or 6.

Auli'i Cravalho Biography - The Famous Peoplehttps://www.thefamouspeople.com › profiles › aulii-cra... Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 14:39, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since I missed it all

Congrats!

Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks PotsdamLamb! I did get a shirt a little while after the RfA from Tsugaru but it's always good to have two! --Ferien (talk) 20:32, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Especially since they are white, you need a lot right now so they don't absorb heat! Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:20, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Luckily the weather is back to normal now. But I'll definitely keep this for the next insane heatwave. Probably won't be too far away unfortunately. --Ferien (talk) 21:59, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Still remember my T-shirt! :D --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:46, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Wick

Walter Wick had been involved with art and photography, he's an author and he created I Spy, he began his career in either 1971 or 1979.

Sources: https://www.linkedin.com/in/walter-wick-19b685b3/

https://voiceactorsplacesmediaandmore.fandom.com/wiki/Walter_Wick

https://lionheadthemovies.fandom.com/wiki/Walter_Wick Alexkrzywicki1 (talk) 14:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alexkrzywicki1, please stop constantly adding these to my talk page. If you would like to change something on a page, please do it yourself. I am not going to do it for you, especially as the sources you provide are always very poor. --Ferien (talk) 17:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2022-30

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The Sack of Shamakhi took place on 18 August 1721, when rebellious Sunni Lezgins, within the declining Safavid Empire, attacked the capital of Shirvan province, Shamakhi (in present-day Azerbaijan Republic). The initially successful counter-campaign was abandoned by the central government at a critical moment and with the threat then left unchecked, Shamakhi was taken by 15,000 Lezgin tribesmen, its Shia population massacred, and the city ransacked.

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Tech News: 2022-30

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  • Last week, some wikis were in read-only mode for a few minutes because of an emergency switch of their main database (targeted wikis). [6]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 July. It will be on all wikis from 28 July (calendar).
  • The external link icon will change slightly in the skins Vector legacy and Vector 2022. The new icon uses simpler shapes to be more recognizable on low-fidelity screens. [7]
  • Administrators will now see buttons on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. [8]

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19:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

RFD for movies

Hi, Ferien. I just closed Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Category:American comedy movies by decade and took care of deleting all the nominated categories (after recategorizing their contents). While I was processing all that, I saw that there are other categories with the same level of categorization. An example is Category:American adventure movies by decade. I just thought I'd mention it in case you want to nominate other similar categories. -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Auntof6 for all that recategorisation... Did you see any other examples of those categories? I sent the adventure one you pointed out to RfD but it came back as keep, although there were no comments. --Ferien (talk) 23:14, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the ones I could find easily:
Maybe it would be good to create movie genre subcategories only if enwiki has matching ones? -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6: I think this would be a good idea for these kind of categories. Thank you for the examples. --Ferien (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop

Please stop undoing what I have done. You keep doing this all week and citing policies and rules that do not exist. There is no where that says I cannot close something once it is completed and moved. There is no policy that says I cannot use templates on the vandalism board to express my opinion on things, especially since the one I marked as stale was my own report from the night before that no one acted on and that ip had not made any changes. This falls in line with what you did on the entire language thing. There was absolutely zero issues with me collapsing part of the conversation which is perfectly fine to do when something is as long as that discussion is on a popular page that has everything on it that everybody goes to. There is no policy against any editor doing that. When I was discussing setting up a pool type section just do it was easier to read than to go through pages of discussion, just as an easier reference, in which IWI agreed was a great idea, you went completely against it and had lots of comments. Now let’s add the comment you just made “ The change separating "Current" and "Completed" requests was also unnecessary”. No, it was not. The request is completed and approved therefore it is completed. Same as if it wasn’t approved. You also unarchived it, when it gives instructions right at the top on what to use. I am sure that Chenzw had no issue with me doing that as he wouldn’t have to. You are making up your own rules and want things done how you want them done. I do not appreciate that. So please stop as I am not doing anything against any policy, except your own policy. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 07:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are a lot of things covered in this message so I'll just go through point by point.
  • Please stop undoing what I have done. I'm not sure whether you're suggesting that I'm undoing you particularly simply because of your username but if there is good reason to undo an edit then you do that... I don't usually stop and look at the username.
  • You keep doing this all week and citing policies and rules that do not exist. Could you find where I've done this because I don't believe I've done this at all?
  • There is no where that says I cannot close something once it is completed and moved. But there is nowhere that says that you have to close everything. In fact, as you can see from past archives on Wikipedia talk:Bots, things are rarely closed using an archive template. The last time that happened was in 2010. It's safe to assume that bureaucrats just don't bother with that anymore. And why change the way something has been done for 12 years without consensus among bureaucrats?
  • There is no policy that says I cannot use templates on the vandalism board to express my opinion on things... Did you know there is also no policy that says non-admins cannot respond to unblock requests? Just because there is no policy that says you cannot do something doesn't mean you should do it. And for the reasons I explained, the potential risks of non-admins responding to VIP reports like that are bigger than the potential risks of it just being left there for a few days at most...
  • This falls in line with what you did on the entire language thing. There was absolutely zero issues with me collapsing part of the conversation which is perfectly fine to do when something is as long as that discussion is on a popular page that has everything on it that everybody goes to. There is no policy against any editor doing that. Again, policy doesn't cover everything that will ever happen on Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia:Be kind is just a guideline which I personally find pretty ridiculous. Anyway, I did give the problems with your collapsing in a comment posted on simple talk: I've uncollapsed this discussion. The admin who eventually closes this fully should read the whole discussion, because discussion shows consensus, not polling. I would even suggest collapsing the second part instead of this section, because it is just to make sure the closing admin understands what everyone supports/opposes. --me, 12:01, 22 July 2022 (UTC) This was actually covered by a policy, Wikipedia:Consensus, that I mentioned later on. So there were certainly problems with you collapsing part of the conversation. While being just a how-to guide, w:Wikipedia:Refactoring talk pages suggests that if discussions are very long, they should be separated into sections, not collapsed and really, that discussion is not that long at all.
  • When I was discussing setting up a pool type section just do it was easier to read than to go through pages of discussion, just as an easier reference, in which IWI agreed was a great idea, you went completely against it and had lots of comments. As I pointed out above, consensus is not polling. They may be helpful for the admin who will eventually close or review the whole discussion to add to the language list further, but languages should not be added simply because some people voted for them in a poll. There should be discussion about it and if you look at a few of the languages you added to your poll, you'll notice some are barely mentioned in the discussion above.
  • No, it was not. The request is completed and approved therefore it is completed. Same as if it wasn’t approved. You also unarchived it, when it gives instructions right at the top on what to use. I am sure that Chenzw had no issue with me doing that as he wouldn’t have to. There are no instructions at the top on what to use for archiving.
  • You are making up your own rules and want things done how you want them done. I do not appreciate that. So please stop as I am not doing anything against any policy, except your own policy. As I have pointed out above, not everything needs to have a policy linked to it, and I think my replies above show that I'm not just making up my own rules as I go along. --Ferien (talk) 08:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is the title as you have undone a lot of my things this week.
  • You bring up what you assume is consensus because something was not done in 12 years. That’s not either here nor there, there is no policy, and like I said if Chenzw he could have undone it and talked to me, no you going and undoing it. It was closed as successful and moved down. Again less work for them. Again no policy just your assumption that they have a 12 year old consensus to not do that way. I saw it as helpful and there was zero need for you to undue it.
  • Actually there is a guideline that non-admins can respond to a block EN:Appealing_a_block toward the bottom of the page “ When you appeal, other editors – most of whom probably have no involvement in the matter – will review your editing history, which has been logged, as well as the reason for the block and the history leading up to it. Editors may leave comments on your talk page regarding your appeal.”
  • For the collapse I also stated they can just as easily hit the expand link and read it, as any admin should do when deciding on something, so nothing wrong with it other that you save space because of adding the poll and now the results. And everything else that could be added. The entire poll was to be set up with every language mentioned whether once or a multiple amount of times, it’s called impartial so everything gets listed to give it a fair shot. Urdu is the official language of Pakistan and since no other country was being listed but Pakistan was brought up that is where Urdu came from.
  • Templates are at https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Bots&action=edit
  • You linked to essays which some agree with some don’t. A lot are open to interpretation and I am not going to refactor a long discussion like that and as I said we are all smart enough to hit the expand option (ok maybe not all given some of the IP editors or LTAs).
  • What you see as long and what I see as long are two different things and from the policy you mentioned above it does state “Polls - To help build consensus, we sometimes use polls. That is when people put their names down to show what they believe. People who are new to Wikipedia may think that this is voting, but it is not. We do not add up the names to see what consensus is. This is because consensus is not just what most people say should happen. Polls are usually the start of a discussion, not the end.” So no issue with it being done except it should have been done at the beginning but since this has been an ongoing issue for years this was when it got put in. Wikipedia:Consensus says nothing about if a discussion can be collapsed to save space. It basically comes down to you being an admin and making decisions and implementing them instead of consulting others (yes I know I have done that as well) but as an admin you are different. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 08:52, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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