User talk:Gotanda/Archive 2011 July to August

Arl Cemetery

Thank you for the feedback. I am still learning how to do this. Racepacket (talk) 12:21, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Stereochemistry

Thanks for your feedback. I think the points you rose have been addressed. Can you please take a look at it again? Thanks, -Barras (talk) 08:42, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm mostly offline until the weekend. Will look later. Thanks, Gotanda (talk) 00:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Molecular formula

I saw that you tagged this article as {{complex}}. I have tried to fix it. Please take another look. Racepacket (talk) 14:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

See Talk. I know you are trying, but these articles are just not ready yet. Gotanda (talk) 21:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

For this. Silly me! Yottie ^=talk= 22:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Easy one to miss. And, I love scallops. Gotanda (talk) 22:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Theoretical chemistry

Hey there again! Since you added the complex tag, I wanted to ask you to take a second look at it. I've now further simplified the article and hope it is fine now. Please let me now or just remove the tag :-) -Barras (talk) 20:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, but it isn't close to simple. See Talk:Theoretical_chemistry. I know you are trying to help Racepacket. I tried too at first. These articles are very, very, very hard to simplify. That may be because of the chemistry content, but also because of the quality of the initial EN articles. The En article is marked for cleanup and is poorly written in the first place. What is the point of bringing over these articles that aren't even good to start with? Gotanda (talk) 02:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments, I've now moved it to user space for now to work on it. -Barras (talk) 15:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Moving the recent mass RfD articles to user and then working them one-by-one back to namespace makes the most sense. Many of them share the same issues, so working one really thoroughly will make it clear how to get the others in shape. It will give as template or roadmap for the others. Working all of them in parallel is too hard, I think. It is probably worth looking at the talk pages on the original En articles to see where problems may be--some of these articles need significant work on En too. Problems of organization and clarity aren't from Racepacket. They seem to come from the original articles. Regards, Gotanda (talk) 00:07, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I understand your point. There is a generally accepted tree structure of chemistry topics. It is tricky to say X, Y, and Z are the major branches of field A without using the words "field", "branches", "subtopic" etc. The article is guilty of name-dropping without explaining each branch and sub-branch of theoretical chemistry. However, that would turn the "theoretical chemistry" article into a full text book. Do you have an article in either En or Simple Wikipedia that would be a good model for reorganizing this overview/survey article? The purpose of the article (on both En and Simple) should be to explain what theoretical chemists study, how that is different from other field of chemistry, how they study it, and why it is important. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 03:35, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Let's try a survey article that is more concrete and less theoretical. I have created User talk:Racepacket/Thermochemistry. Is it Simple? Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 10:37, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I hate to keep saying this, but it isn't even close to being simple. So many phrases are still straight out of En. Some sentences have been broken down into two, but that isn't enough. From the how to "The simplest sentence structure in English is subject-verb-object-period, subject-verb-object-period and so on. Try to use the simplest sentences that make sense." Eliminate passives whenever possible. Simplify connectors. Here is one example: "throughout the course of" --> during. There are many more. Gotanda (talk) 01:39, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Your comments are helpful to me. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 07:24, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Please take another look at User talk:Racepacket/Thermochemistry and User:Racepacket/Theoretical chemistry. I appreciate the feedback. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 08:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Alhaji Habu Adamu Jajere

Hi Gotanda...I removed your speedy tag at Alhaji Habu Adamu Jajere. It is technically not a transwikied page because the article was made here first, then copied over to the English Wikipedia about an hour and a half later. Please feel free to pursue other means of deletion, though, if you feel appropriate (RFD or another quick deletion category, for example). Let me know if you have any questions, Either way (talk) 14:53, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I should have noticed the timestamps. Advertising? Gotanda (talk) 15:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)