User talk:Mikota3

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Hello, Mikota3, and welcome to the Simple English Wikipedia! Thank you for your changes.

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Good luck and happy changing! Auntof6 (talk) 06:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Mikota3. Welcome to Simple English Wikipedia. You might like to read Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages. That page explains how to write the kind of simple language we use here. If you want to create new pages, it might be a good idea for you to start them in sandbox pages under your account. That gives you a place to work on pages until they are ready to be articles. You can ask other people to help you work in the sandbox pages. Our readers don't read English very well, so it's very important to make sure the language we use is simple and the grammar is correct.

Do you know what kind of thing you want to do here? --Auntof6 (talk) 06:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Auntof6, thank you very much for the answers. I am interested in History and Geography, especially of Europe. But I know also other things. Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 09:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That tells me what you're interested in, but not what you want to do. Do you want to make new articles? Improve articles that already exist (and if so, what kind of improvement)?

By the way, have you used any other Wikipedias? Have you used Wikimedia Commons? --Auntof6 (talk) 09:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mikota. Welcome. May I give two other ideas?

First, if you have not used other Wikipedias, you can also learn about Wikipedias and their rules at Russian Wikipedia.

Second, add a Babel template (see Template:Babel) to your user page.

Welcome, and good luck! StevenJ81 (talk) 14:49, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am a "Newbie" in WP, but I find the idea very great. I made four articles in German in the last days. To make new articles in Simple English is in the moment for me a little difficult, but I learn the list of Simple English words in the next time, I hope. The idea is great: a language to understand for many, many people! Oxford English is a "little" to high for me in this life - perhaps in another ;-)? Now I repeat the English grammar with a old school book. I read meanwhile a lot of sites here and collect a few ideas to improve articles. Thank you very much for the link to Babel, I used this to make better my user page. --Mikota3 (talk) 11:22, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I brought over a template for "cu-2" from English Wikipedia. I took out the links until you are ready to write an article in Simple English on Old Church Slavonic. (wink)

You should make your own sandbox to practice in. If you add the template {{User sandbox|links=yes}} to the top of the sandbox, it will give you some tools for writing in Simple English. Good luck! StevenJ81 (talk) 14:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I put the links back in that template, and I will create the categories later (if no one else gets to it first). Other pages already link to the language, and having red links is not a bad thing here. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:33, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answers. I don t understand those technical problems (I don t even know in german), perhaps in the future a little? Thanks especially for the tip with the sandbox. I wrote a sentence about Old Church Slavonic, but I don t know it is right? Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 16:09, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you write the sentence about Old Church Slavonic? StevenJ81 (talk)

Thanks for the answer. I wrote the sentence in my own Sandbox. The open Sandbox was cleared always. Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your own sandbox is perfect!

Here is what I did. By adding links to Eastern Orthodox Church and Slavic languages, I gave readers a way to understand what you are talking about. You don't need to do everything. It is the job of those articles to describe what you meant here. I used "writing literature" instead of "literary" because "writing" is "Basic", and literature has an article. Finally, I combined Sts. Cyril and Methodius into one red link, even though that is unusual, because English Wikipedia's article is written that way: en:Saints Cyril and Methodius. If even English Wikipedia combined the article, we can do that here, too.

At the end, when you are ready to publish this article, add a stub template to the bottom. Perhaps User:Auntof6 can help with which stub template to use, and with adding categories. Nice first work! StevenJ81 (talk) 17:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think just the plain {{stub}} template is the best one. One other comment: the first sentence needs to be split into two separate sentences. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops. You're right, of course. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:44, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answers. Many hard work for a few words ;-). But it is gripping for me. Are two sentences enough to start the article? Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 08:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because the subject meets all the rules. That is why you add {{stub}} to the bottom. It tells the reader that the article is not finished, and that people can add to it. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:32, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answer. I started the article with your "version 2" and added the stub, but deleteted Documentation:. Thanks for your help. I try to write now a article about Saints Cyril and Methodius, in the moment a red link. Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 08:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your first article! It just needs a couple of things. One is that the first sentence needs to be divided into two separate sentences, as mentioned above. The other is that it needs categories. A couple of nice touches would be link it in Wikidata and to add an infobox -- you could just copy the one from the enwiki article. Let me know if you want more information about ay of this. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:19, 19 March 2015 (UTC

Thanks for the answer. I wrote the first sentence new. But what is Wikidata and a infobox? Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 14:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You moved part of the first sentence to the second sentence. That made the first sentence OK, but then the second sentence needed to be divided. I divided the second sentence. As much as possible, there should be only one idea in each sentence. That's part of making the language simple.

Wikidata is used to link articles on the same subject in other Wikipedias. (It's also used for other things.) I made the link. In the article, you can now see a list of other languages on the left side of the page. Any article, category, or template that also exists in other Wikipedias should be linked this way.

An infobox is a template that gives basic standard information about something. It usually goes at the top of an article. There are different infoboxes for different things, including languages, people, countries, and a lot more. I added the infobox for languages to the article. (I copied it from English Wikipedia.)

The other thing I did was to put the plain stub tag in the article. It looked like it had been substituted. The stub templates don't get substituted.

Let me know if you have any questions about this. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:57, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Auntof6, thanks for the answers. My second article Saints Cyril and Methodius was very bad, Rus 793 wrote new sentences. And I can t understand this problem infobox and this problem wikidata and this problem categories. Where I can find categories? And what is wikidata? And the infobox is very difficult for me. Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 08:04, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I can see why you find this difficult.

Infoboxes. The reason for them is to provide standard information about certain topics. For example, all articles about languages have an infobox. All articles about nations have an infobox. For someone new, they are not so easy. Ask an experienced person like @Auntof6 or me to help. For more about infoboxes, go to Help:Infobox.
Wikidata is a separate wiki that is part of the Wikimedia Projects. To find out more, go to its home page. For you, think of Wikidata as an index for all of the different Wikipedias. If you go to Wikidata's index page on Old Church Slavonic, you will find links to all the articles in every language Wikipedia on Old Church Slavonic. Now, go back to your own article. You can see a list of languages on the left. Someone wanting more information can choose to read an article in any of the languages shown.
Categories: I think Auntof6 understands their role better than I do, so I will leave that explanation to her. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:39, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello StevenJ81, thanks for the long answer. I hope I learn in the future more about infobox, wikidata, categories and and and... In the moment I can only write short articles. Today I wrote three sentences about Photios I of Constantinople. Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 07:51, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Mikota3. Thank you for your new article. (You can see that this area is not covered well in simplewiki.) I added Wikidata links on Photios I.

I suggest checking your language. Some is starting to get un-Simple. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:53, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mikota3. Categories are used to help people find pages they are interested in. All articles should have categories. Some pages need only one category, but most need more. A lot of categories fall into these areas:

Who (for pages about people):

What is their profession? Example categories: Category:Actors, Category:Politicians
What are they known for, if it's not related to their profession? Example categories: Category:Criminals, Category:Royalty and nobility
What is their nationality? Example categories: Category:American people, Category:Thai people

What:

On pages about things, what kind of thing is it? Example categories: Category:Buildings and structures, Category:Tools
On pages about events, what kind of event was it? Example categories: Category:Wars, Category:Elections

When:

On pages about events, when did it happen?
On pages about institutions (for example, a company or university), when was it founded, and when did it end (if it doesn't still exist)? Example categories: Category:1776 establishments, Category:2014 disestablishments
On pages about people, when were they born and when did they die (if they have died)? Example categories: Category:1907 births, Category:2012 deaths

Where:

On pages about places, where is it (what country or city, for example)?
On pages about events, where did the event happen?

I've given some simple examples for some of these. In practice, the categories usually combine some things. For example:

Category:German writers combines nationality (German) and profession (writer)
Category:2014 FIFA World Cup combines a time (2014) with an event (the FIFA World Cup)
Category:Cities in France combines a type of place (city) with a location (France)

I hope that gives you an idea. Wikipedia:Categories gives more detailed information. Feel free to ask if you have questions. It's better to either ask for help or put the {{uncategorized}} template on an article than to not put any categories at all. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:56, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answers. I hope I learn in the next months a little bit. My English is to bad to understand all this. But: step by step... Greatings --Mikota3 (talk) 07:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]