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Banning query[change source]
What about banning? If a user is banned in English Wikipedia, will he/she be able to edit to other language Wikipedias? Haoreima (talk) 07:13, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima, Vermont, and Belwine: I have added Belwine to this. Typically when you start a question on one persons page you want to keep it there. I have also tagged Vermont who is one of the administrators here on simple Wikipedia. I think the questions you are asking are better to be asked to an administrator. So Vermont will respond when they get the chance. PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: Users banned on enwiki are welcome to edit other language Wikipedias, as long as they do not cause similar problems. Here, we have the one strike rule for users banned or blocked indefinitely on sister projects. --IWI (talk) 07:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
@ImprovedWikiImprovement: Thank you. Haoreima (talk) 11:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Wikis using the Growth team tools can now show the name of a newcomer's mentor anywhere through a magic word. This can be used for welcome messages or userboxes.
- A new version of the VideoCutTool is now available. It enables cropping, trimming, audio disabling, and rotating video content. It is being created as part of the developer outreach programs.
Problems
- There was a problem with the job queue. This meant some functions did not save changes and mass messages were delayed. This did not affect wiki edits. [1]
- Some editors may not be logged in to their accounts automatically in the latest versions of Firefox and Safari. [2]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 March. It will be on all wikis from 4 March (calendar).
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19:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Flagging pages which need more work[change source]
- We don't have many pages which need no further work. Covering them with flags has little appeal except to make them look like crap! Who do you think is so under-employed that they are going to respond to flags? In general, adding a flag which says in effect "I really think someone else should do something" is not going to be productive. Just a personal view, of course! Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Macdonald-ross: can you please be more specific and provide links? I know the few I have added is because I cannot read the sources as they are out of country. Thanks PotsdamLamb (talk) 14:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think the page was Hydra (mythology). Objectively speaking, there was nothing wrong with your comment. However, flagging poor-ish pages does nothing because we have such a small group of active editors. I've come across flags five years old, even ten years old, with no changes after the flag was put up. Here's the thing: although we have the same apparatus as En wiki, we have only a small number of competent editors. Consequently, it might be years before anyone does anything on a page. The steady collection of pages bearing flags which are technically justified but never heeded can be a depressing experience. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- So I just looked and that was done a while ago and was actually one of the last ones I did as I was speaking with another admin in chat and they said they were not really needed on SEWP. I also see Djsasso took care of these. I am a little lost as to why you are posting this, but I have received your advice. I am heading out. Have a great day! PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think the page was Hydra (mythology). Objectively speaking, there was nothing wrong with your comment. However, flagging poor-ish pages does nothing because we have such a small group of active editors. I've come across flags five years old, even ten years old, with no changes after the flag was put up. Here's the thing: although we have the same apparatus as En wiki, we have only a small number of competent editors. Consequently, it might be years before anyone does anything on a page. The steady collection of pages bearing flags which are technically justified but never heeded can be a depressing experience. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Macdonald-ross: can you please be more specific and provide links? I know the few I have added is because I cannot read the sources as they are out of country. Thanks PotsdamLamb (talk) 14:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
WikiProject invitation[change source]
Hello PotsdamLamb, I would like to invite you to WikiProject Vital Articles! There are over 100,000 articles on Simple English Wikipedia, but this project's goal is to work on 100 of the most important articles. We will choose one or two articles to improve at a time. We will try to make the articles more complete or promote them to good article status. Hope to see you there! Naddruf (talk) 18:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Section translation now works on Bengali Wikipedia. It helps mobile editors translate sections of articles. It will come to more wikis later. The first focus is active wikis with a smaller number of articles. You can test it and leave feedback.
- Flagged revisions now give admins the review right. [3]
- When someone links to a Wikipedia article on Twitter this will now show a preview of the article. [4]
Problems
- Many graphs have JavaScript errors. Graph editors can check their graphs in their browser's developer console after editing. [5]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 March. It will be on all wikis from 11 March (calendar).
- The New Discussion tool will soon be a new discussion tools beta feature for on most Wikipedias. The goal is to make it easier to start new discussions. [6]
Future changes
- There will be a number of changes to make it easier to work with templates. Some will come to the first wikis in March. Other changes will come to the first wikis in June. This is both for those who use templates and those who create or maintain them. You can read more.
- Reference Previews will become a default feature on some wikis on 17 March. They will share a setting with Page Previews. If you prefer the Reference Tooltips or Navigation-Popups gadget you can keep using them. If so Reference Previews won't be shown. [7][8]
- New JavaScript-based functions will not work in Internet Explorer 11. This is because Internet Explorer is an old browser that doesn't work with how JavaScript is written today. Everything that works in Internet Explorer 11 today will continue working in Internet Explorer for now. You can read more.
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17:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikis that are part of the desktop improvements project can now use a new search function. The desktop improvements and the new search will come to more wikis later. You can also test it early.
Editors who put up banners or change site-wide JavaScript code should use the client error graph to see that their changes has not caused problems. You can read more. [9]
Problems
- Due to database issues the Wikimedia Beta Cluster was read-only for over a day.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 March. It will be on all wikis from 18 March (calendar).
Future changes
- You can add a newline or carriage return character to a custom signature if you use a template. There is a proposal to not allow them in the future. This is because they can cause formatting problems. [10][11]
- You will be able to read but not edit 12 wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.
- You can use Quarry for SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas. Cross-database
JOINSwill no longer work from 23 March. There will be a new field to specify the database to connect to. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech. PAWS and other ways to do SQL queries to the Wiki Replicas will be affected later. [12]
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23:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
You've got mail![change source]
Message added 16:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC). You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.
—Belwine (talk) 16:57, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Done PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oops, should have checked beforehand. Replied again. —Belwine (talk) 19:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thinking Brittany Spears “Oooppsss I did it again!” Lol. All good. Done PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thinking Brittany Spears “Oooppsss I did it again!” Lol. All good.
- Oops, should have checked beforehand. Replied again. —Belwine (talk) 19:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- There is a Wikipedia app for KaiOS phones. They don't have a touch screen so readers navigate with the phone keys. There is now a simulator so you can see what it looks like.
- The reply tool and new discussion tool are now available as the "Discussion tools" beta feature in almost all wikis except German Wikipedia.
Problems
- You will be able to read but not edit twelve wikis for a short period of time on 23 March at 06:00 (UTC). This can also affect password changes, logging in to new wikis, global renames and changing or confirming emails. This could take 30 minutes but will probably be much faster.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 March. It will be on all wikis from 25 March (calendar).
- Syntax highlighting colours will change to be easier to read. This will soon come to the first wikis. [13]
Future changes
- Flagged revisions will no longer have multiple tags like "tone" or "depth". It will also only have one tier. This was changed because very few wikis used these features and they make the tool difficult to maintain. [14][15]
- Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015 this was moved from
wg*tomw.config.wg*will soon no longer work. [16]
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16:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Simple English<=>Regular English Wikipedia[change source]
@PotsdamLamb: I saw you have been blocked in Regular English Wikipedia. You have also said that your information has been taken from Simple English Wikipedia, by which you are blocked in regular English Wikipedia.
Do you think information from simple English Wikipedia can be really utilized for sock puppet investigation confirmation? Haoreima (talk) 03:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima: This is a question best suited for the administrators. There are a few who watch my talk page or you can post it in the help forum for a better answer. PotsdamLamb (talk) 03:20, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: I thought you might have some knowledge as it was your past real life experience. Well, thank you. Haoreima (talk) 03:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is not something I know. I know Simple has a one strike rule if you have been banned from another Wikipedia in which they won’t issue a warning just block you. PotsdamLamb (talk) 03:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Some very old web browsers don’t work well with the Wikimedia wikis. Some old code for browsers that used to be supported is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. [17]
- IRC recent changes feeds have been moved to a new server. Make sure all tools automatically reconnect to
irc.wikimedia.organd not to the name of any specific server. Users should also consider switching to the more modern EventStreams. [18]
Problems
- When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split. It might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. [19]
- Some translatable pages on Meta could not be edited. This was because of a bug in the translation tool. The new MediaWiki version was delayed because of problems like this. [20][21]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 March. It will be on all wikis from 1 April (calendar).
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17:31, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first. [22]
Changes later this week
- The citoid API will use for example
2010-12-XXinstead of2010-12for dates with a month but no days. This is because2010-12could be confused with2010-2012instead ofDecember 2010. This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the Extended Date/Time Format. [23] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 April. It will be on all wikis from 8 April (calendar).
Future changes
- PAWS can now connect to the new Wiki Replicas. Cross-database
JOINSwill no longer work from 28 April. There is a new way to connect to the databases. Until 28 April both ways to connect to the databases will work. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech.
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19:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Email to the Wikimedia wikis are handled by groups of Wikimedia editors. These volunteer response teams now use Znuny instead of OTRS. The functions and interface remain the same. The volunteer administrators will give more details about the next steps soon. [24][25]
- If you use syntax highlighting, you can see line numbers in the 2010 and 2017 wikitext editors when editing templates. This is to make it easier to see line breaks or talk about specific lines. Line numbers will soon come to all namespaces. [26][27][28]
- Because of a technical change there could be problems with gadgets and scripts that have an edit summary area that looks similar to this one. If they look strange they should use
mw.loader.using('mediawiki.action.edit.styles')to go back to how they looked before. [29] - The latest version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis last week. There was no Tech News issue last week.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- The user group
oversightwill be renamedsuppress. This is for technical reasons. This is the technical name. It doesn't affect what you call the editors with this user right on your wiki. This is planned to happen in two weeks. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
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16:49, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Userpages[change source]
Re: User:Chidgk1/Forest in Turkey
In general, we don't supervise pages in userspace unless the use is clearly improper. I don't think this one counts, though you could ask for another opinion. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:06, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Macdonald-ross: Please see above. User_talk:PotsdamLamb#Sandboxes? PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I've deleted it. Users can request directly if the page is a sub-page of their userpage. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Got it - Thanks! PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I've deleted it. Users can request directly if the page is a sub-page of their userpage. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
You've got mail![change source]
Message added 04:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC). You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.
Auntof6 (talk) 04:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Regarding Links[change source]
Respected sir, I saw from your end you have remove my links on the topics I addressed. But sir, I didn't done it for promotion or advertising. I saw many of the topics have least information. Thereby, in order to put some extra information I wrote and gave the source link. It's not for any promotional cause or advertising. I will be extremely grateful to you if you unblock it and understand the matter. Waiting to hear from you soon.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.102.116.48 (talk • contribs) 08:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- This is a spam link and is being used for the promotion of the website which is not a valid reference in the health sector. Therefore, it is not being re-instated. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- There is a new toolbar in the Reply tool. It works in the wikitext source mode. You can enable it in your preferences. [30] [31] [32]
- Wikimedia mailing lists are being moved to Mailman 3. This is a newer version. For the character encoding to work it will change from
UTF-8toutf8mb3. [33][34] - An earlier issue of Tech News said that the citoid API would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first. [35]
Changes later this week
-
MediaWiki:Pageimages-blacklistwill be renamedMediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist. The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles. [36] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 May. It will be on all wikis from 20 May (calendar).
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13:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
768 MB RAM on Apple Watch Series 3[change source]
Did you use Apple Watch Series 3 for making changes? If not, why? Is 768 MB more than 64GB? 79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:48, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don’t use my watch for internet. It’s not feasible in the least. GB is bigger than MB. So no 768 mb is not larger than 64Gb. PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
In my opinion there shouldn't be an article for that at all. I don't think Peppa Pig's house would deserve an article, so why should this place in Yo Gabba Gabba!? --Ferien (talk) 17:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- It is a redirect to the Yo Gabba Gabba! and I just redirected it. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
NMB News[change source]
Hi, you listed NMB News as a QD for being not notable. There has been a challenge to this, so I have moved it to RFD. You may like to make a comment on the discussion to support your original QD request. Peterdownunder (talk) 00:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Notability[change source]
You placed a QD on a badly written article on Vignesh kickboxer martialarts - the article certainly did claim notability, such as the "undisputed world heavyweight champion". The QD is denied. Peterdownunder (talk) 22:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Peterdownunder:I saw that but looking at the references provided, they are all web archives that go to the same page and one is on the Wayback archive website and the title of the page needs to be changed as well. PotsdamLamb (talk) 22:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- If you think the references are not reliable, then the article should go to RFD - not QD. I noticed that another editor had placed an RFD on the article in question which you removed. That is not something which you should have done - if you felt that it should have been quickly deleted then you should have made a comment in the RFD discussion. By removing the tag and ending the discussion you are acting as an administrator - a role which you are not authorised by the community to carry out. Peterdownunder (talk) 22:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- I was not in any way acting as an administrator, I was being bold. There are many things about the article that are not right and I can find no mention of this person on the internet. It is not just the references. I will put it back up for RfD. PotsdamLamb (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Non-administrator closures can be a very good thing (let's say a page has already been deleted but an admin forgot to close or the nominator withdraws the nomination and no-one has voted to delete) but, for future, closing an RfD to make a QD is not correct. --Ferien (talk) 20:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I was not in any way acting as an administrator, I was being bold. There are many things about the article that are not right and I can find no mention of this person on the internet. It is not just the references. I will put it back up for RfD. PotsdamLamb (talk) 22:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- If you think the references are not reliable, then the article should go to RFD - not QD. I noticed that another editor had placed an RFD on the article in question which you removed. That is not something which you should have done - if you felt that it should have been quickly deleted then you should have made a comment in the RFD discussion. By removing the tag and ending the discussion you are acting as an administrator - a role which you are not authorised by the community to carry out. Peterdownunder (talk) 22:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
OK[change source]
Ok sir but please do not delete article I remove in this article's harm content Drewdramfir (talk) 20:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Drewdramfir: It's up to an administrator whether the article will be deleted or not. If the article meets QD criteria, it will be deleted. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter - It is a copyright violation as the entire article is copied. That is why I keep tagging it. You need to stop removing the tags. I have already reported you and I will not provide any more notices. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok sir Drewdramfir (talk) 20:35, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Election Volunteer[change source]
Any objections If I sign up? Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:06, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have none but please change your user name. I can’t ping you in anything because I don’t have a Japanese/Chinese keyboard so characters and script can’t be typed out. You will want people to be able to ping you and such with questions. We haven’t done much yet as it is getting set up. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:08, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I see, then it's best for me not to run then, I had to do a re-name for an important reason (I cannot publicly disclose why) and It's a Japanese Keyboard :-) You could just copy and paste my username from the signature when you click edit source; :-) --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:24, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You aren’t running for an office. You are helping promote the elections. So basically get the word out, encouraging people to read the bios of those running, and most importantly vote. The name was just a suggestion. You can choose something random that is not in characters. Mine is just a bunch of pots, a dam, and a lamb. Hence PotsdamLamb which I use pots to cook with, I love looking at dams and I enjoy a good lamb chop (not the sock puppet) either! Lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, I meant to say it's best for me not to volunteer. Totally unrelated but, What's your preference on porkchops? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Funny you ask because that’s what’s been marinating since yesterday for tonight’s dinner. My IG is filled with all my cooking it’s a passion of mine. I prefer to fry them in my iron skillet with my own homemade marinade and a little bit of a crust on the outside by broiling for just a few minutes on each side. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:37, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh really? I've seen Veronica Lodge, from Archie Comics cook porkchops, in a toaster! I love BBQ Pork (Chinese Food) too. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don’t recommend cooking them in a toaster (I saw that episode too). My roommate thinks the toaster oven is god then I bought an instapot which I love as some things are much easier when I want a hearty meal but didn’t have time to do everything. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:43, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just don't Microwave a Microwave! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:44, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Unless you remove all metal first then you can. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I guess that would be safe. But if you microwaved an Atomic Bomb, what happens? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Well at that point, I guess you have whatever happens to you coming and for good reason! Lol! PotsdamLamb (talk) 04:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I guess that would be safe. But if you microwaved an Atomic Bomb, what happens? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:04, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Unless you remove all metal first then you can. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just don't Microwave a Microwave! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:44, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don’t recommend cooking them in a toaster (I saw that episode too). My roommate thinks the toaster oven is god then I bought an instapot which I love as some things are much easier when I want a hearty meal but didn’t have time to do everything. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:43, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh really? I've seen Veronica Lodge, from Archie Comics cook porkchops, in a toaster! I love BBQ Pork (Chinese Food) too. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Funny you ask because that’s what’s been marinating since yesterday for tonight’s dinner. My IG is filled with all my cooking it’s a passion of mine. I prefer to fry them in my iron skillet with my own homemade marinade and a little bit of a crust on the outside by broiling for just a few minutes on each side. PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:37, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, I meant to say it's best for me not to volunteer. Totally unrelated but, What's your preference on porkchops? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You aren’t running for an office. You are helping promote the elections. So basically get the word out, encouraging people to read the bios of those running, and most importantly vote. The name was just a suggestion. You can choose something random that is not in characters. Mine is just a bunch of pots, a dam, and a lamb. Hence PotsdamLamb which I use pots to cook with, I love looking at dams and I enjoy a good lamb chop (not the sock puppet) either! Lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 01:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Mail![change source]
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template. --Ferien (talk) 16:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
revesion of my edit[change source]
I do not understand why you rollbacked my edit that was clearly not bias as it was a pure fact. also I didn't add it The One 16:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It is unsourced. Seems reasonable for the rollback. Darubrub (Let me know) 16:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- sorry i completely didnt notice there was no source my b The One 16:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You cannot add unsourced information and if you told me the article, it would be easier to tell you why. PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Probably referring to this. Darubrub (Let me know) 16:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yup NPOV without sources. PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ok I added two sources is it good now? The One 17:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Theonewhoishere: That is not a valid source. It actually violates the Neutrality point of view. It is written by one author with no credibility and the use of fluff words. PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ok I added two sources is it good now? The One 17:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yup NPOV without sources. PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Probably referring to this. Darubrub (Let me know) 16:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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- The Wikimedia movement has been using IRC on a network called Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have decided to move to the new Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia discussions about this.
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17:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Trying to understand the confusion[change source]
I noticed your message on the talk page of user:21chseld301. I am his teacher. I created that username for the student because he could no longer access his former username, user:20chseld301, because he didn't have an email address associated with it to recover the password. It doesn't look like he's using his userpage as a sandbox. Is there something that is still a problem that I should address or can we mark this issue as now resolved? Thank you for your help, Swim123blue (talk) 20:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi - Yes this was taken care of. They were using their main page as an article, so it needed to be changed, which the student did. So it is all good now. I did notice that your students are not placing the header on the pages they edit {{class project|teacher=swim123blue|link=Wikipedia:Schools/Projects/easell}}. If that can be added, it will help your students out as we won't flag those articles or make changes. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- We just chose the pages to edit today and students should propose changes in the article talk pages by the end of today. We'll add the banner to the pages once we start "construction" on Thursday. Thanks for the reminder. Swim123blue (talk) 21:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
No worries. PotsdamLamb (talk) 21:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It is acceptable to use a user page as a sandbox, as long as it's being worked on with the aim of putting the text on an actual live page (after which the user page can be cleared). It doesn't have to be done in a subpage. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:18, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- It was a CP of an article with no changes that I could see, but it was handled. PotsdamLamb (talk) 00:21, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sandboxes are likely to start as copypastes, whether on a user page or elsewhere. As long as it doesn't stay that way too long, it's not a problem. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes ma'am :) That was explained to me. The user also didn't have a student box either or else I would have let it go altogether. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 00:29, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sandboxes are likely to start as copypastes, whether on a user page or elsewhere. As long as it doesn't stay that way too long, it's not a problem. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- It was a CP of an article with no changes that I could see, but it was handled. PotsdamLamb (talk) 00:21, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
TUT.BY[change source]
I replied: It is notable, but a complete copy of the En article. That is grounds for QD unless the content is so trivial that it could not be simplified. I can see some longish sentences... Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:56, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I just QDd it. PotsdamLamb (talk) 09:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Dear PotsdamLamd[change source]
I have some problems with article about Neptune. Something went wrong (the text shifted) when I did a rollback. Can you return the version that was made today at 09:07 when I change the 6 link in the table (it is about inclination)? Frontfrog (talk) 09:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog: It has been rolled back to 0845 before the blue link inserted by the bot. PotsdamLamb (talk) 09:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Clarification[change source]
Hello, P. Lamb. I'm a veteran WP editor across numerous projects, including approx. weekly visits to the Simple English WP. I happened to read the discussion that included this text you wrote - which prompts me to suggest a clarification: You wrote "It is a 360° turn around from who I was." (Emphasis mine) Was your intention 180°, i.e. a "complete about-face"? The Simple English WP is read by many for whom English is an acquired language, so I believe it's especially important to write clearly here, including idiomatic language in communicating with other editors. I'd even go further to say that idiomatic expressions have little place in SE WP, certainly being non-standard usage on mainspace pages. Hope this helps. Wishing you well with your continued contributions. Cheers! -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- No I meant a full 360°. 180° is only 1/2 a circle. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- A 360° turn-around means that nothing changes, because you end up back where you were. Is that what you meant? A 180° turn-around means that things change so much that they are completely different. The expression "360° turn-around" is one I've never seen used, probably because there wouldn't be much of a need for it, except if one were trying to sound humorous. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I guess you are both right, I could try being funny, but that would not have worked out so well. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- A 360° turn-around means that nothing changes, because you end up back where you were. Is that what you meant? A 180° turn-around means that things change so much that they are completely different. The expression "360° turn-around" is one I've never seen used, probably because there wouldn't be much of a need for it, except if one were trying to sound humorous. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Email[change source]
Hello, PDL. (May I call you PDL?) I got your email. I prefer to keep communication on-wiki unless it is something confidential. I don't think the topics in your email are confidential. If you do think so, please email me again and explain why; otherwise, please ask again on-wiki. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: PDL is fine. Here is a copy of what I sent you.
On the Template:COVID-19 pandemic, I have noticed that people (mostly IPs) have added specific cities to the US portion. I am not sure why this was done or if it supposed to be done. From what I read in the TOC and layout, it is only supposed to be states. There is also a top grouping on the US about 4 items, that are not states (one is loke socio-economic, trump admin communication, etc.).
Secondly, I wanted to ask if I could gain temporary AWB access to 1) test my script on a couple pages in the Category:CS1 Discouraged parameters to update the wording so that error goes away. Over 52k pages is a lot for me to do. If the test goes well, I would start doing in small batches of 25 at a time so as to not trigger anything. I may need the flood flag (I am not sure). What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks, PotsdamLamb (talk) 05:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- On the template issue: I would prefer keeping it in synch with the enwiki copy, especially since there are so many red links already. If the enwiki version has the links, then they should be OK here; otherwise my preference would be not to have them.
- On the AWB access, the category you mention doesn't exist, so I assume you mean Category:CS1 maint: discouraged parameter, yes? In any case, I usually prefer that people use the official, defined places to request things. AWB access can be requested at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. You would probably be asked exactly what changes you would make (not just what you want to fix, but exactly how you plan to fix them, including something about whatever logic your script has). If you've made any of the changes manually, you could point to them as examples. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- That is the correct category, and yes I already requested it a while ago on the request page. It’s simply pull the pages from the category and then search and replace words. I think it’s 7 words or so. Basically inserting the hyphen where it needs to go. Then they disappear from the category. There are some that may need me to manually by hand due to another issue I haven’t seen on the discouraged word list. For examples you can look at my last 30-40 contributions with the edit summary of CS1 error fix.PotsdamLamb (talk) 06:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- PS Just so you know I was approved to use it on EN. So I am familiar with it and how it works. PotsdamLamb (talk) 05:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Good, be sure to mention that on the request page. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok I’ll add that. PotsdamLamb (talk) 06:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Good, be sure to mention that on the request page. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- PS Just so you know I was approved to use it on EN. So I am familiar with it and how it works. PotsdamLamb (talk) 05:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Small grammar note[change source]
When there is something that become unnecessary or pointless, it is moot, not mute. Mute describes a person who doesn't speak or can't speak. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks I
thinkI need to turn off the auto-correct on my PC. UGH! PotsdamLamb (talk) 21:57, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks I
Apology[change source]
I accidentally rolled back an edit of yours when I was trying to roll back an IP's edit. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- LMAO - I was just about to post that on your page to see if you meant to do so. I think we just happened to do it at the same time. It is all good. I typically do not revert an admin unless I speak with them first. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 22:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Userbox[change source]
Ha! Great one, it was a nice surprise. Now I'll have to get back at ya' 
Etoza (?) 12:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- haha PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:32, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Etoza: I saw @Ferien: took a copy too :) Yay it is a hit! lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- who doesn't love edit conflicts? :) --Ferien (talk) 16:58, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Etoza: I saw @Ferien: took a copy too :) Yay it is a hit! lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
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17:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
May 2021[change source]
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make helpful changes to Wikipedia. However, some of your changes, like those to "Deaths in 2021", did not seem to be helpful and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try out changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 17:36, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: I am trying to reorganize the entire year. The page is not listed correctly as it should be 'Deaths in May 2021' to match the others, but someone did a redirect to this page. I was making them on a May 2021 page and adding just May as a heading so it comes up as 1 May, 2 May, 3 May, etc instead of 1.1.1, 1.4.5, etc to make it easier to read. Is there a different way to do this to make it easier to read? PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- The "deaths in" pages have been managed this way for a long time. If you think a long-standing process should be changed, then discuss it first. I'm not saying your idea isn't good, just that you need to consider other factors before making this kind of change. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:50, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 OK. I did not know that as I was being bold to make it 'simple' for our readers. It reads very confusing. Besides simple talk, do we have a high visibility page that I can post it on to start the discussion? PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- In this case, just use Simple talk because it involves a lot of different pages. Be sure to ping TDKR Chicago 101, because they put a lot of effort into managing these pages. By the way, the main reason your changes weren't helpful was that all the headings ended up as just the name of the month, without the day. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:05, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 ok but it shows 1 May, 2 May, 3 May, 4 May when you view the page with all the headings as ==May== instead of 1.1.1, 1.4.5 etc. I will start the conversation there. Thanks. PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- In this case, just use Simple talk because it involves a lot of different pages. Be sure to ping TDKR Chicago 101, because they put a lot of effort into managing these pages. By the way, the main reason your changes weren't helpful was that all the headings ended up as just the name of the month, without the day. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:05, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 OK. I did not know that as I was being bold to make it 'simple' for our readers. It reads very confusing. Besides simple talk, do we have a high visibility page that I can post it on to start the discussion? PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- The "deaths in" pages have been managed this way for a long time. If you think a long-standing process should be changed, then discuss it first. I'm not saying your idea isn't good, just that you need to consider other factors before making this kind of change. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:50, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Talk header[change source]
How come I can see your header on my phone while I can’t see mines? Darubrub (Let me know) 17:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- I dunno :( PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:59, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Assume good faith[change source]
I saw the change you reverted on Provinces and territories of Canada. That change did need to be reverted, but 1) I don't think it was vandalism and 2) I don't see what the MOS has to do with it. It's easy to miss the fact that the two sets of headings aren't the same—I missed it myself at first!—and think that the second set isn't needed. Please assume good faith and don't bite the newcomers! --Auntof6 (talk) 18:39, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- I give up for the day. Seems everything I do, I am getting told not to do or getting comments from you that are disparaging me from even wanting to be on here. Even with the ordinal numbers, it is back to an edit war between the two IPs but nope, looks fine to you. I am off. Have a good day! PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:42, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see why you have to get confrontational with Auntof6. She's just saying to assume good faith while addressing she's made a few mistakes herself in the past. No need to say every suggestion we give you are disparaging. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:36, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Quick deletion of 2020–21 EFL Championship[change source]
The page you wrote, 2020–21 EFL Championship, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. MathXplore (talk) 06:31, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Give articles content before you put them up. You can always develop content off-wiki by using a sub-page of your userpage, thus User:PotsdamLamb/Whatever. This becomes a sub-page of your userpage and can be put in the wiki by creating a normal page and transferring the content from your sub-page. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Macdonald-ross There are two of us working on it but the coding had to be fixed (which is now fixed). It said in the edit summary blank for editing and I should have been clearer on that hence why I posted the line on the page. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:51, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Be careful with using copyvio tools against en.wiki[change source]
Just wanted to let you know to be careful when comparing simple to en.wiki on copy violation tools. I just had to restore a number of pages you marked as copyright violations that were not, they were written by the same user so were not copyvios. -Djsasso (talk) 14:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- While I appreciate your statement, there were many changes since the blocked and locked user created them. However, I will look for that as I was not aware that a criteria of a copyright violation was if it is copied over from Enwiki by the same user, then it isn't a copyright violation. Thank you for that information. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:35, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I would also point out that they had attribution templates on the talk page which also would have made it not a copyright violation. -Djsasso (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Djsasso Which page(s) had the templates? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:17, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Talk:Shiro Azumi, Talk:Haruo Arima, Talk:Ko Arima. -Djsasso (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Djsasso Ah ok on the talk page. I am used to just looking at the edit comments. Thanks for pointing that out. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:21, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Talk:Shiro Azumi, Talk:Haruo Arima, Talk:Ko Arima. -Djsasso (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Djsasso Which page(s) had the templates? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:17, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I would also point out that they had attribution templates on the talk page which also would have made it not a copyright violation. -Djsasso (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Your change to User talk:24.205.228.106[change source]
This change was not necessary, for several reasons.
- There wasn't much on the page, so the page has wasn't long enough to need anything removed.
- What was there wasn't old.
- None of what you removed had anything to do with you, because it was all from other users.
I recommend not doing cleanup or maintenance on user or user talk pages other than your own. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:28, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry. I won't do it again. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Thiago Silva[change source]
Hello, I have declined your QD on Thiago Silva. Please do an RfD if you think the article should be deleted.--Eptalon (talk) 20:46, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Eptalon How dare you! lol. Ok I will. Let me think about it and see what I can find before I do that. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:48, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Eptalon So it was changed from when I tagged it up to when you looked at it. When I tagged it, there was nothing on it. Apple fixed it up so I am good. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:50, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I may have had something to do with this. ;) AnApple47 (talk) 21:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- @AnApple47 Just a tad! lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I may have had something to do with this. ;) AnApple47 (talk) 21:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Eptalon's talk page[change source]
Did you mean to revert my change there? If so, why? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:03, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- I posted on your page. Eptalon changed his parameters, not Ferien. Ferien had made a TPS comment on something :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:04, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Your changes to Ninjago (TV series)[change source]
Hi, PDL. I wanted to mention a couple of things about the changes you made to this article..
First this change where you added a reference section (thanks for doing that!), a commons template, and an authority control template, in that order. When you add a commons or commonscat template, it should be at the top of a section. en:Wikipedia:Wikimedia_sister_projects#Where_to_place_links explains how to place links to sister projects like Commons.
Second, in this change, you changed centre to center. Did you mean to change from the British spelling to the American spelling? The subject of the article is not American, so I'm not sure why you changed that. You might want to read WP:ENGVAR for information about when to use different varieties of English.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Thanks for pointing that out.
- I had pasted the page into my notepad++ and I had autocorrect on from something else I working on and forgot to disable it. I have changed the two words back.
- I will look at that link and adjust accordingly.
- Thanks much PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:24, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Ok so I do have a question. Say references is the last section. I post the commons link there, then it comes up before the references. When I post it below the references, it shows to the right under the infobox. However, contrary to what you said, the article you linked me to with the sister link states
Most box-type templates such as {{Commons}} shown at right should be put at the beginning of the last section of the article (which is usually, but not necessarily, the "External links" section) so that boxes will appear next to, rather than below, the list items. Do not make a section whose sole content is box-type templates. Many box links can be unified to one by using {{Sister project links}} or {{Sister project}}.
You stated it...should be at the top off a section.
So now I am confused. It still seems to come up under the infobox if one is present, which is where I thought it had to be placed regardless of where it is placed. Can you clear that up for me please? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:39, 4 June 2021 (UTC)- So this is one where I added it just after the closing of the infobox Revision of Maroon 5 PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Let me see if I can be clearer. You don't usually consider where the commons box appears with relation to an infobox. The only time you consider that is if the infobox reaches farther down the page than the article text, such that if you put the commons box in the last section it still appears after the infobox (instead of with the header it's placed under) and therefore makes the article visually longer. To keep it from making the article visually longer, you use the inline form of the commons template; when you use the inline form, it should always be in the others websites section, even if that's the only thing in that section. If that doesn't answer your question, let me know.
- All this goes for other sister-site templates, too (Wikiquote, Wikinews, etc.). And, of course, you should only use a commons template if there is actually something on Commons to link to: either a category or a gallery (my preference is always for a category). --Auntof6 (talk) 21:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Yup after seeing your change here it makes a lot more sense now. I am assuming I should add the other sisters here too? BTW your edit put the page in the category of Category:Commons category template with no category set and in Category:Commons category without a link on Wikidata. Or is this part of that project you want me to work on? lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:11, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- No, that's not part of the project I mentioned before. It looks like that happened because our article here wasn't attached to the Wikidata item. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Yup after seeing your change here it makes a lot more sense now. I am assuming I should add the other sisters here too? BTW your edit put the page in the category of Category:Commons category template with no category set and in Category:Commons category without a link on Wikidata. Or is this part of that project you want me to work on? lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:11, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- So this is one where I added it just after the closing of the infobox Revision of Maroon 5 PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Ok so I do have a question. Say references is the last section. I post the commons link there, then it comes up before the references. When I post it below the references, it shows to the right under the infobox. However, contrary to what you said, the article you linked me to with the sister link states
IRC[change source]
Done
Hi, I noticed you are on IRC. I always considered registering to Freenode but it seemed a little confusing. Now everything is moving to Libera.chat I thought now might be a good time to start. I've read the Libera chat help pages on registering and I think I know how to register now. However, I'm pretty sure you reveal your IP address for a short time when you register. I'm wondering whether there is any way to avoid this (apart from using a VPN or proxy), or whether your IP address is even revealed. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 18:56, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- If you start and not go into any channels other than the main #Libera channel then no one will see your IP. Once you get registered and get your email and authenticate, then you will be good to join the channels with your name. Once you register you will need to log off and then back on to show properly. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:58, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, that's good. I'll be registering shortly. Thanks for the help :) --Ferien (talk) 18:59, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok. Check your email @Ferien PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:00, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Just double checking: no-one can see your IP in #libera-cloak, correct? --Ferien (talk) 19:00, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- again cye.... PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:04, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- You've got mail (I saw your message but cannot respond...) --Ferien (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien Because I blocked you! lmao. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- YGM again :) --Ferien (talk) 20:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien Because I blocked you! lmao. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- You've got mail (I saw your message but cannot respond...) --Ferien (talk) 19:54, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- again cye.... PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:04, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, that's good. I'll be registering shortly. Thanks for the help :) --Ferien (talk) 18:59, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Using rollback[change source]
Please remember that rollback is to be used only for vandalism. You rolled back this change that was not vandalism. The user removed an image, but it was not vandalism. The edit summary said, in part, "too many images." You may disagree about whether there are too many images, but that edit was done in good faith so it was not vandalism. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:50, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 That is because they are one of many, many users who keep removing the exact same picture and then someone puts it back, a few minutes later it gets removed again. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's still not vandalism. At worst, it's an edit war, and you contributed to it. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:00, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 This is another article [history] where they are edit warring and they also keep removing anything related to Greek (notice that on Cheese they kept removing Feta cheese because it is greek and in the pizza article, they kept removing a picture of a pizza from Greece). And I was not as involved, but I did issue edit warring notices to them, again, they continued. I did report the one IP 88.105.95.54 at 9:30 PDT (my time) for the edit warring on VIP. I also apologize as it was not my intention to contribute, however, they are all involved in NPOV and it has been going on all week. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:18, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Freestyle music[change source]
Done
@Auntof6: I am literally in the middle of fixing the article. You just undid it so now I have to start all over again. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:54, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- First, why are you leaving me a message on your talk page? But more to the point, you do not have to start over. You can just undo (not revert) my change and it will be back where it was. I also recommend putting an in use template on the page if you don't want people to change it while you're working on it. Just be sure to take the template back off when you stop for the day. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:59, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Besides that, at the time I made my change, the article hadn't been changed in 2.5 hours. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:01, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Sorry about that. I got side tracked with doing my dinner menu and getting a shopping list together and some cleaning, I have adjusted it to say in use. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Ok I did what I could. I am still not sure about the table I used to list the 30 artists they had on the page. It seemed too much to have in the sentence like they did and way too much for a vertical list. What are your thoughts on Freestyle music? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- My thoughts:
- If all you have in the table is the name, then it doesn't need to be in a table. There are ways to make multiple columns instead of a strictly vertical list.
- The list of regional scenes should be bulleted instead of being in a table.
- Remove the other websites section and put the Commons template at the top of the references section. (By the way, when you have both a references section and an other websites section, the other websites section goes last.)
- The language could be a little bit simpler.
- I diffused the category.
- Hope that helps. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:46, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Ok I did that all except simplification as I need to start making dinner. It is mexican night. I saw you removed the commonscat. I am wondering if there is a redirect on commons because when I just put that in, it takes you the electronic dance music page. I was wondering about the stub as I always thought it looked weird on a lot of our articles being shoved up in the page. Thank you for those fixes. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:28, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- It took you to the electronic dance music page because that's how it was coded (look closely at how it was coded). --Auntof6 (talk) 01:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Because I changed it to get the error out of the cats about it not matching the page it was going to. With just the commonscat it went to that page. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:33, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 I think I got it down right now. I simplified what I could, what are your thoughts on that part? I also corrected a ref I missed last night and added an archive as the original is dead. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Because I changed it to get the error out of the cats about it not matching the page it was going to. With just the commonscat it went to that page. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:33, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- It took you to the electronic dance music page because that's how it was coded (look closely at how it was coded). --Auntof6 (talk) 01:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Ok I did that all except simplification as I need to start making dinner. It is mexican night. I saw you removed the commonscat. I am wondering if there is a redirect on commons because when I just put that in, it takes you the electronic dance music page. I was wondering about the stub as I always thought it looked weird on a lot of our articles being shoved up in the page. Thank you for those fixes. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:28, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- My thoughts:
- @Auntof6 Ok I did what I could. I am still not sure about the table I used to list the 30 artists they had on the page. It seemed too much to have in the sentence like they did and way too much for a vertical list. What are your thoughts on Freestyle music? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Sorry about that. I got side tracked with doing my dinner menu and getting a shopping list together and some cleaning, I have adjusted it to say in use. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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Your changes are breaking syntax[change source]
Done
I'm not going to check all of your Check Wikipedia-related changes, at least not yet, but some of your attempts at fixing the "Table not correct end" error have either broken some syntax or left stray characters. Examples:
- doesn't appear to have fixed the problem: there are still stray characters
- broke infobox syntax
- appears to have added stray characters
- left stray characters
When fixing errors from the Check Wikipedia list, keep in mind that they may already have been fixed. The errors don't disappear from the list automatically; they must be manually removed. The farther in the past date the error was found is, the more likely it is that someone has already fixed it.
Also look at the article before you change it to see what the supposed error is doing. Preview it before saving to make sure that 1) the error was fixed and 2) no new problem has appeared.
Please check all the related changes you've made before you process any more. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Aplogoies, typically I do. I have gone back and checked all of the changes, a few were reverted already. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Questions about another change[change source]
Done
Wpuld you please explain a couple of things about this change?
- Why did you remove publisher parameters from citation templates?
- Why did you change {{Use mdy dates|date=August 2019}} to {{Use mdy dates|date=June 2019}}?
Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 The script I used must have stripped the publisher information - apologies for once again not paying close enough attention. The month change for the MDY was done by the script to change all to the requested format and it automatically updated it June 2021, I only reverted the year and not the month. Again, I wasn't pay close enough attention. I will triple check everything before I do it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Also, please give me some time. I will go through all of the changes I have made and if I see any errors, I will correct them. I am in the middle of something else right now away from my computer. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:44, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. That is acceptable. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 23:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Thanks. Much appreciated. I have used those scripts for 2 years. This is the first time I have ever had that issue (except the MDY<-->DMY conversion). PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 So I went through some of the more recent ones and didn't see any errors. I think it was just the ones from yesterday because further back I could not find any syntax breaking. Today I have been working off of the Check Wikipedia page instead of the actual application. I noticed it hasn't had a dump in 7 days, so that may have been part of the issue, but I am triple-checking everything that I am doing today. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:51, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think the Check Wikipedia page doesn't update the date if it finds the same error. What I've done sometimes is just mark all of the ones for a given error as done, then wait for it to be updated so I know all the ones there are still current. Also, I don't know how you're organizing your work, but if you look at an individual article on Check Wikipedia then click on "more" it will show you if there are multiple errors (including multiple kinds of errors) for that article. Finally, be aware that for some of the errors, just because Check Wikipedia has flagged something doesn't mean it necessarily needs to be fixed or changed. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Yeah after you pointed that stuff out yesterday I’m working off just that list for now. I open the article look for the error “it supposedly has” fix it if I find it. If I don’t see it, I’ll manually check everything else and run my scripts to get everything aligned. Then once it comes back after I publish and I don’t see any errors in the hidden cats and the page looks correct and I don’t see anything broken I go back to that page and click on done. I think I figured out why some of the publisher stuff got ripped out. I noticed today it was changed based on the citation type. If they are cite journal (I think it was) it changes it to work= and if it doesn’t match something in the DB it removes it.
- We also need to get the tool bar fixed for when adding citations to implement all of the new parameters that replaced the old ones like accessdate being changed to access-date. I put that on my list for tomorrow to contact the meta tech team to fix that.
- My understanding of WPC is it is supposed to pull the most recent page from simple and load it. Once it loads I click on the check for errors button and see if it still exists, as I tested today I took a page that came up in the program and I manually fixed it on site. Published went back to the program closed out the article and then clicked to open it and it said it had been fixed. So maybe it just doesn’t parse tables (embedded ones too) correctly.
- One other thing I noticed is on the football template it doesn’t like anyone putting a third uniform in. It will show on the article as having a third uniform complete with the pictures but then says it is an unknown parameter. Maybe @Djsasso: would like to take a kick at it. It’s the international football teams template I believe. That is all I have today. I’m going to finish helping Froggy on his article so it can get promoted then correct all the citations on the nazi smoking article as that is going to take a huge amount of time. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:09, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, if you're processing from Check Wikipedia, please make sure to mark the ones you take care of as done. Otherwise they'll stay on the list forever. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:15, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. I’ve been doing that. I got a few of the high priorities done. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:19, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, if you're processing from Check Wikipedia, please make sure to mark the ones you take care of as done. Otherwise they'll stay on the list forever. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:15, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think the Check Wikipedia page doesn't update the date if it finds the same error. What I've done sometimes is just mark all of the ones for a given error as done, then wait for it to be updated so I know all the ones there are still current. Also, I don't know how you're organizing your work, but if you look at an individual article on Check Wikipedia then click on "more" it will show you if there are multiple errors (including multiple kinds of errors) for that article. Finally, be aware that for some of the errors, just because Check Wikipedia has flagged something doesn't mean it necessarily needs to be fixed or changed. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. That is acceptable. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 23:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 Also, please give me some time. I will go through all of the changes I have made and if I see any errors, I will correct them. I am in the middle of something else right now away from my computer. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:44, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
About Neptune[change source]
Done
Excuse me, you promised to send some comments about this article. Where can I read them? Frontfrog (talk) 07:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog I was waiting until you were done. I can read proof it in the morning when I get up and I tackle another small project I promised someone I would do. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 07:17, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog So I went through and made quite a few changes, including copy edit for words, grammar, punctuation. I also formatted all the citations as they should be and made some spacing to separate the sections so they are easier to read. I did a mass change on dates, so it should all be DMY (i.e.6 June 2021). A couple points for you to remember:
- Author names have to be separated so you have to use |last= |first= |last2= |first2= etc. If you do not, it throws an error. There were quite a few I had to do that to. You also cannot use commas in the authors name (i.e. Frog, Front) that is why they are separated by a pipe and the module puts them together. I still have a couple of them to find, as it is time consuming to read word for word and look for these giant pain in the butts.
- When you use any of the cite templates, you have to have a title for it. If you do not, it also throws an error. You had one that was a cite journal but no journal name, I used the name of the paper with the No. 525 added to it. When I looked at this, it was more of a cite web.
- References, when you put them in, use the citation drop down templates, and fill in as many as you can. There are some that are required and some optional. I prefer to fill in as many as I can. If I am researching to clean up an article and I come to a dead link with no fix, I use the archive.org website to find it based on the access date. This is why I find the accessed date one of the most important so we can find the correct version that was cited.
- I ran a few scripts to also help me clean it up some.
- When creating an article, you want to look down at the categories. In the hidden section, you will see if anything is throwing an error. You want to fix those, especially when you want to promote an article. Right now, it still shows two errors. I can work on them more tomorrow. They can be time consuming as well.
- I adjusted the sister projects links to only show the ones that are related to the planet Neptune. If you just use sisterprojectslink it will link to all of them, even if nothing is in it, which is very bad. You want to make sure everything you link is valid and available.
- You want to avoid using pay research methods like Britannica because it requires a membership or library card. It does not really work well outside of the US because of different countries laws. I have a library card and an account, so I am able to access it, but I am weird too.
- So take a look at the history of the page and compare things and you will see the changes so far. If you have any questions, please feel free to post here and I will answer them when I can. Even if it is just why did you do this? I should be able to complete this tomorrow morning. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work. Will you still be editing today? Frontfrog (talk) 15:42, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog Yes I will put the in use tag on it so I can finalize everything for you. It shouldn't take too long. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog Alright! All errors have been corrected. Please proof the article (from viewing screen, not editing screen) and insure all looks well. My kitten likes to jump on my desk and an extra letter may be added somewhere. I am done with everything I can do to it at this point. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog Yes I will put the in use tag on it so I can finalize everything for you. It shouldn't take too long. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- It seems to me very well-done. Thank you so much! I did another one edit because word "it contains" in intro repeated 2 times in a row. I think you can support to GA in the voting.Frontfrog (talk) 21:44, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog I dunno about that yet. The angel on my right shoulder says yes, the devil on my left shoulder says don't do it. lol. I will hop over there in a minute.
- Items to note:
- You have a redlink in the infobox pointing to Ammonium hydrosulfide
- I would check all your links and make sure you did not over link to articles. Usually it is only the first instance of the word, however, in an article this long, you can also link it a couple of sections down. It really should not be linked more than 2-3 times throughout the article.
- On the flip side of this, make sure you do link to any other words which may be harder to understand for the average reader of Simple Wikipedia.
Question: I believe 'moon' and 'satellites' are the same thing. Is that correct? If so, in the infobox you state 13 known satellites and in the body of the article you state 14 moons. The article about the moons lists 14 known moons. (ref [[List of Neptune's moons#List of moons|Neptunes list of moons. Thanks, PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog I dunno about that yet. The angel on my right shoulder says yes, the devil on my left shoulder says don't do it. lol. I will hop over there in a minute.
- So I pointed 14 satelites in the infobox. Please tell me for the future which sections specifically require simplification? Frontfrog (talk) 06:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Frontfrog Go to the proposed good article conversation and you will see what I saw. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:23, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Signature[change source]
Done
Hi, I just wanted to tell you that you forgot to put your signature at Wikipedia:Proposed_good_articles#Kabuki :P. Etoza (?) 08:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Good grief. It’s supposed to do it for me gggrrrrrrr PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:39, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Removal of {{blocked}} tag here[change source]
The {{blocked}} (or {{blocked user}}) tag adds the page to CAT:TWU so eventually it can be deleted. --Ferien (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- But we do not want it deleted as it is a globally locked account. So having globally locked and blocked on the same page is redundant and global lock is higher than block and if another admin from another wiki sees that then they know so we don't want the page deleted. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It is not necessary to worry about these. It is not redundant to have both templates; if the global lock is lifted, the local one would still be in effect. I recommend that you not add or remove templates related to a user's block status. The templates don't have to be there, and the blocking admin may have reasons for placing them or not. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Questions again[change source]
Would you please explain the reason for these reverts that you did?
Your edit summaries on the first two indicated "unexplained changes," but why did they need to be reverted? On the third, the summary indicated that you were reverting vandalism; in what way was it vandalism?
Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 So the reason being when the first couple popped up I just reverted them and gave a warning. Then I got an alert that the user talk page changed. The IP user blanked the page, as they are allowed to do. What I noticed in the looking at the history is that they had been doing this for quite a while, including a block in May for vandalism. As I looked through all of the articles they edited, even though small unnoticeable changes at first glance, they were changing the information on pages to be inaccurate. These were all on BLP articles. With a couple out of the hundred or so on a TV show. They changed birth dates, years, active years, birth places, just a lot of non-factual information so I decided based on these factors, the history the IP had, the fact they got blocked for the same thing and they got blocked again today after I gave them their warnings, I chose to make it vandalism as they were made aware it is such. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- You "just reverted" the first two? Why? And with the third one, you "chose to make it vandalism"? You don't choose to make something vandalism; either it is or it isn't. I don't see why any of the ones I linked are vandalism. The user had added some links, and in one case changed to link directly to a page instead of to a redirect. Those are good things. I'm going to consider removing your rollback right, especially if I see any more like this. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- Understood. Have a good night. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:15, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- You "just reverted" the first two? Why? And with the third one, you "chose to make it vandalism"? You don't choose to make something vandalism; either it is or it isn't. I don't see why any of the ones I linked are vandalism. The user had added some links, and in one case changed to link directly to a page instead of to a redirect. Those are good things. I'm going to consider removing your rollback right, especially if I see any more like this. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Barnstar for you[change source]
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The Categorisation Barnstar | |
| For your tireless work as we reduced the number of uncategorized articles from three digits to one! Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC) |
Goodbye?[change source]
I know I haven't been here long, but I think that simple is really going to miss your commit and work. One day, I hope you might decide to come back. Perhaps you might even be unblocked at enwiki someday. I know I might not influence you to stay, but I hope that you know people care. If not, then I hope you have a great rest of your life. AnApple47 (talk) 02:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- +1. Please come back one day. If you're bored of simple, which you seem to be, please consider helping other Wikimedia projects, I would be glad to welcome you there. Bye for now. --Ferien (talk) 06:15, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- +2 Thank you for your service here. I'd love to see you come back one day --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- +3 Sad to see a regular and new changes patroller go. Your presence will be missed... I wish you good luck on whatever you're doing now though!
Etoza (?) 22:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- +4 This wiki needs people like you who are very supportive and generous to new editors, Please come back and lets make this wiki a better place <3, I feel sad whenever I see that tag on your user page Suryabeej ⋠talk⋡ 08:05, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- +3 Sad to see a regular and new changes patroller go. Your presence will be missed... I wish you good luck on whatever you're doing now though!
- +2 Thank you for your service here. I'd love to see you come back one day --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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- The
otrs-membergroup name is nowvrt-permissions. This could affect abuse filters. [44]
Problems
- You will be able to read but not edit German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC. [45]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 June. It will be on all wikis from 24 June (calendar).
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June 2021[change source]
Please do not make unhelpful changes to Wikipedia. The changes you made seem to be vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 08:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Was this an accident? It looks like you reverted a change from 91.213.233.146 and didn't warn them but warned PotsdamLamb instead. --Ferien (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien: Yes, an accident Thanks for pointing it out. I've warned the IP now. Apologies to PotsdamLamb. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:25, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Wikis with the Growth features now can configure Growth features directly on their wiki. This uses the new special page
Special:EditGrowthConfig. [46] - Wikisources have a new OCR tool. If you don't want to see the "extract text" button on Wikisource you can add
.ext-wikisource-ExtractTextWidget { display: none; }to your common.css page. [47]
Problems
- You will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a few minutes on 29 June. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. [48][49]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 June. It will be on all wikis from 1 July (calendar).
Future changes
Threshold for stub link formatting,thumbnail sizeandauto-number headingscan be set in preferences. They are expensive to maintain and few editors use them. The developers are planning to remove them. Removing them will make pages load faster. You can read more and give feedback.- A toolbar will be added to the Reply tool's wikitext source mode. This will make it easier to link to pages and to ping other users. [50][51]
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Tech News
- The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 19 July.
Recent changes
- AutoWikiBrowser is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses JSON.
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPagehas moved toWikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSONandWikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Config.Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/Versionhas moved toWikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/VersionJSON. The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes. [52]
Problems
- InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from
archive.istoweb.archive.org. [53]
Changes later this week
- The tool to find, add and remove templates will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year. [54][55]
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- Some Wikimedia wikis use Flagged Revisions or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful. [56]
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Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 2[change source]
Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 2, July 2021Read the full newsletter
Welcome to the second issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.
If you haven’t already, please remember to subscribe here if you would like to be notified about future editions of the newsletter, and also leave your username here if you’d like to be contacted to help with translations in the future.
- Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review - Initial meetings of the drafting committee have helped to connect and align key topics on enforcement, while highlighting prior research around existing processes and gaps within our movement. (continue reading)
- Targets of Harassment Research - To support the drafting committee, the Wikimedia Foundation has conducted a research project focused on experiences of harassment on Wikimedia projects. (continue reading)
- Functionaries’ Consultation - Since June, Functionaries from across the various wikis have been meeting to discuss what the future will look like in a global context with the UCoC. (continue reading)
- Roundtable Discussions - The UCoC facilitation team once again, hosted another roundtable discussion, this time for Korean-speaking community members and participants of other ESEAP projects to discuss the enforcement of the UCoC. (continue reading)
- Early Adoption of UCoC by Communities - Since its ratification by the Board in February 2021, situations whereby UCoC is being adopted and applied within the Wikimedia community have grown. (continue reading)
- New Timeline for the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee - The CRC was originally expected to conclude by July 1. However, with the UCoC now expected to be in development until December, the timeline for the CRC has also changed. (continue reading)
- Wikimania - The UCoC team is planning to hold a moderated discussion featuring representatives across the movement during Wikimania 2021. It also plans to have a presence at the conference’s Community Village. (continue reading)
- Diff blogs - Check out the most recent publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff blog. (continue reading)
Thanks for reading - we welcome feedback about this newsletter. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 15:42, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Coming back?[change source]
It appears you're coming back - I'd like to be the first to welcome you back. Fixing26 (talk) 15:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back too. If it was just a temporary leave then there is a wikibreak template. Darubrub (Let me know) 15:58, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- No I was going to remain retired but I need something to do once in a while. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:15, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back :D --Ferien2 (talk) 17:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
WELCOME BACK[change source]
I thought you have gone forever, at which I was really shocked! But your surprising return really make me feel happy! Good day, Man! Let's work together once again in the wiki! Haoreima (talk) 14:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Haoreima Thanks! I’m only off and on. I work 12 hour nights 6 days a week for the most part. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:28, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back to da club ;) Have some free coffee (or beer if you prefer), and no I don't have free money for you at this moment lol. But I've got canned beans!:P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- @つがる Thanks! Funny you mention money. One of my clients has a parking garage that gets a lot of homeless people going through it. On the back of one of the vehicles the owner wrote "It's my 21st Birthday! Venmo me money at ......." I laughed so hard I almost pee'd myself. Thanks, I am glad to be back. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome back to da club ;) Have some free coffee (or beer if you prefer), and no I don't have free money for you at this moment lol. But I've got canned beans!:P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Quick deletions[change source]
I declined your QD request on Category:User na-1 because the 3-item limit doesn't apply to that kind of category. In addition, that kind of category normally contains templates and never contains articles. Take a look at other "User-xx" categories for examples. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Gotcha! Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 22:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
User subpages[change source]
Hey PotsdamLamb, would you like protection on User:PotsdamLamb/badwords and User:PotsdamLamb/Lists of common misspellings/For machines? They both had a protection template on somewhere, so if you need semi-protection on them, just let me know. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 08:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien Yes please and anything else you can since I use all of them for scripts :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done the two I mentioned. You'd like protection on all the pages listed here, correct? --Ferien (talk) 08:35, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien yes please PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:38, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done --Ferien (talk) 08:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien yeah i got all the emails lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ferien yes please PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:38, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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Attack sum[change source]
You might as well request a revdel to oversighters for this. Darubrub (Let me know) 16:51, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- I am ok with it (it is nothing major or an outing), however, before I can request, the IP needs to be blocked first or they will just continue. Thanks for the information. PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:52, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
move[change source]
You'll need to move this into userspace. I'm letting you know here instead of moving it myself as I don't want any edit conflicts to happen! --Ferien (talk) 18:44, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey feel free to move it. I was following the instructions as I am just working on a mock up and don't want it in the mainstream. PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- oh ok, I'll move it now. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- No worries! I am just playing around with it to get used to creating them and templates. Thanks again! PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- oh ok, I'll move it now. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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That RfD for Wikipedia talk:Simple talk[change source]
Just so you know, that page is not an archive. It is a page for discussing Wikipedia:Simple talk. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Oh my bad - I thought it was since there were no edits for quite a few years so I assumed (should have looked) to see if it is on the simple talk page :) Apologies again PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
A Barnstar for you[change source]
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The da Vinci Barnstar | |
| For your outstanding service in technical work, especially for link repairing, you deserve the da Vinci Barnstar. Haoreima (talk) 06:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC) |
- @Haoreima: Thanks! PotsdamLamb (talk) 14:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Reporting[change source]
Hi there. I noticed you reported someone to WP:VIP but they are a sock of some spammer. I reported it to stewards. Darubrub (Let me know) 17:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks I noticed that, however, the articles getting attacked are coming from numerous areas so I am working on tagging them all then CU them. PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I was just about to add some questions!
Thank you for volunteering though, maybe you can be a good admin in the future. Best regards, :) --Ferien (talk) 15:25, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry :( PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- No issues, I was just getting started with the questions. It would have been much more annoying if I was just about to sign off and you withdrew, lol --Ferien (talk) 15:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- LOL :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- No issues, I was just getting started with the questions. It would have been much more annoying if I was just about to sign off and you withdrew, lol --Ferien (talk) 15:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
RfA Notice[change source]
I have withdrawn as two administrators opposed with valid reasons. I feel I should try again after some time.
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PotsdamLamb (talk) 09:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- To be clear, two people (who happen to be administrators, but whose votes there count no more than anyone else's) opposed your nomination. No one requested that you withdraw. --Auntof6 (talk) 15:48, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: I understand, however, if two active administrators say they oppose, then that tells me I need to work some more on what they brought up. That is why I withdrew. I will update my statement above. I still would like rollback though. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe I didn't emphasize enough that the fact that the people who commented are admins doesn't make their comments more important than if non-admins had said the same things. Such comments aren't made in people's capacity as admins. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Thank you for that. I did get the emphasis you made, however, this is a small wiki with very few regulars and I already admitted I didn’t know all the rules so I agree with you I need to learn, I do not agree however, with what Djsasso said as I have had very few of my things reverted and those were misunderstandings of where they got placed. I do need to create some articles as well to show what I can do so any comments are not taken lightly and like I said I agree and I will try again in a few months when I have more than just changes under my belt. I did ask you on the RfA if you could point out some examples of what you were talking about so if you can do that here so I learn that would be appreciated. PotsdamLamb (talk) 04:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- I will do that when I can. My eyes have a little trouble with certain types of things online, and looking at a mass of text as is on VIP is one of them. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Thank you for that. I did get the emphasis you made, however, this is a small wiki with very few regulars and I already admitted I didn’t know all the rules so I agree with you I need to learn, I do not agree however, with what Djsasso said as I have had very few of my things reverted and those were misunderstandings of where they got placed. I do need to create some articles as well to show what I can do so any comments are not taken lightly and like I said I agree and I will try again in a few months when I have more than just changes under my belt. I did ask you on the RfA if you could point out some examples of what you were talking about so if you can do that here so I learn that would be appreciated. PotsdamLamb (talk) 04:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe I didn't emphasize enough that the fact that the people who commented are admins doesn't make their comments more important than if non-admins had said the same things. Such comments aren't made in people's capacity as admins. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: I understand, however, if two active administrators say they oppose, then that tells me I need to work some more on what they brought up. That is why I withdrew. I will update my statement above. I still would like rollback though. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:49, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
I feel you! Our old ages lol! PotsdamLamb (talk) 08:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Done @Auntof6: I saw it but I’m in bed (0243) here. I’ll resolve them later today. Thanks for the answers! PotsdamLamb (talk) 09:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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Sandboxes?[change source]
Hello PotsdamLamb,
Yes the pages under my user-id can be deleted - they were just sandboxes. I don't do much here so am not sure:
1) Can't we make our own sandboxes here?
2) Do you know how I could delete pages under my own user-id?
Have a nice day
Chidgk1 (talk) 17:51, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Chidgk1: you can create your own sandbox at User:Chidgk1/sandbox. If you want to delete a sandbox you created in your userspace just add {{qd|u1}} --Ferien (talk) 17:53, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- They should be listed as such or put some statement on them so they don't get flagged. If not, it comes up on the vandalism side and when I see the user name with a bunch of misspellings or just a copyright infringement (like yours where you copied everything from English Wikipedia), then it gets a QD. I have a subpage called 'Drafts' and under that I create my pages to work on. PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
RfD nomination of Template:BLP IMDb refimprove[change source]
An editor has requested deletion of Template:BLP IMDb refimprove, an article you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").
Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Template:BLP IMDb refimprove and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).
You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Auntof6 (talk) 08:37, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Oversized stub categories[change source]
Here is a query for Oversized stub categories >= 5 pages. The "Download data" link provides several formats. Re {{Multistub}}: According to the description, it is designed to only show one stub. Don't use the template if you want all of the stubs to be displayed. Bamyers99 (talk) 20:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 - You are awesome! So how do I add that to my dashboard-let? I have this https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PotsdamLamb/Dashboard and I have https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PotsdamLamb/Dashboard/data. Also, is there a way to link to that data to see which articles have that stub? ie. Food shows 5 pages using it so I wanted to find the 5 articles by just clicking on the stub name. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:18, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 Now you are beyond awesome! Thank you so much! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- I have updated your data page with the Wikitable download format from the query. A page is 200 articles. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 Thanks! Two more questions
- Does this autoupdate and how often? If I have to do it manually, can you let me know how?
- Would it be possible to also pull a list of all articles that have no stub on them so we can go through and see if they actually need stubs?
- Thanks, PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:39, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 Thanks! Two more questions
- I have updated your data page with the Wikitable download format from the query. A page is 200 articles. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Manual update. The Download data button Wikitable format link will save the data to your web browser downloads folder. Open that file up with your favorite text file viewer and copy and paste it into you data page. Here is a rudimentary search for non-stubs. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 I do not see this on either of the two pages, The Download data button Wikitable format link PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Add this link where ever you want. --Bamyers99 (talk) 21:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 Awesome! That is what I needed. Thank you so much! I appreciate your assistance in helping me get this set up. You are an amazing person! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Add this link where ever you want. --Bamyers99 (talk) 21:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bamyers99 I do not see this on either of the two pages, The Download data button Wikitable format link PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:06, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Manual update. The Download data button Wikitable format link will save the data to your web browser downloads folder. Open that file up with your favorite text file viewer and copy and paste it into you data page. Here is a rudimentary search for non-stubs. --Bamyers99 (talk) 20:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Bamyers99 You haven't done much work here, so you might not know that this wiki manages stubs differently than other Wikipedias. We try to keep the number of stub types/categories to a minimum; as a result it's not unusual to have stub categories with a lot of articles. The fact that a category has a lot of stubs in it is not seen as a problem. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:18, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 While I appreciate your feedback this is for my knowledge of things so I can work on articles and work on getting them out of stub status as time goes on. All the editor was doing was helping me set up my subpage dashboard to show me the data (same as enWP with a lot more stubs). PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
CS1: Julian–Gregorian uncertainty[change source]
Hi! I'm trying to figure out why this error shows up. If it really happens for any date between 1582 and 1926, then why doesn't it show up on other articles, for example Andrew Jackson? Lights and freedom (talk) 05:51, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom So that part I’m still working on figuring out. If you look at Assassination of Abraham Lincoln that one is in the CAT. I need to decipher through the code. I just emptied out a whole slew of pages (150 and 5 left) that were in a error category like this too. I just need to figure out where it is pulling that from. It could be a citation, a harv, a date on an image file. I just have to test on an article and see what happens then test on a few others. It’s a process to say the least. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- I found it. It's from the date on a reference (in this case "cite journal" template). I can tell because when I made this edit, it went away. But I'm not sure how to fix it without changing the date. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom I read some of the issues with it. My best suggestion right now is to ignore it based on the issues I read. I’ll let you know when I finish then see if anything was changed in the LUA modules for it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's all right with me. I don't even know what Lua is, LOL. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:48, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom So the LUA modules are specific coding to a larger template in order to make them work. So like translating an article uses an LUA, some of our regular templates include an LUA and if the LUA doesn’t work, then neither does anything attached to it. It is a programming language so if you want to learn more about it you can visit https://www.lua.org/ PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:55, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's all right with me. I don't even know what Lua is, LOL. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:48, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Lights and freedom I read some of the issues with it. My best suggestion right now is to ignore it based on the issues I read. I’ll let you know when I finish then see if anything was changed in the LUA modules for it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:43, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- I found it. It's from the date on a reference (in this case "cite journal" template). I can tell because when I made this edit, it went away. But I'm not sure how to fix it without changing the date. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Question[change source]
Hello again, I've got a question regarding Notability on this Wiki compared to the main wiki. I had often gone on special:short pages and special:New pages on the main English Wiki and now I did that here and I found Big Bend (Texas) and East Texas and the fact is these articles would undoubtedly get deleted or redirected on enWP but I wasn't sure about if the notability guidelines are different here, but after reading it, it all seems to be the same, so should these be deleted for not giving sufficient coverage and being too short or not? N1TH Music (talk) 18:26, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @N1TH Music Notability does not apply to places, states, etc. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:28, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- We usually apply notability to BLPs etc too. Those articles can be expanded. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:31, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Wait what are BLPs?N1TH Music (talk) 18:34, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- So to clarify, this unsourced article with precisely 10 words is considered ok? N1TH Music (talk) 18:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @N1TH Music Yes and for BLP re WP:BLP PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, so Biographies of Living People and Geographic Locations can easily be expanded and thus they don't need to be a certain length or have sources, but everything else does right? N1TH Music (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- No all BLPs must have sources. Geographical articles that short typically do not, but as they get expanded they should have references. ALL BLPs MUST have references. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah I was asking because your wording made it seem a little ambiguous to me whether you meant what you just said or what I just wrote. I've just got a couple more quick questions (sorry I'm asking so much but unlike what I did on enWiki I want to ask questions before I screw up) So what about article about mythological people, should Alakshmi be deleted? Should Misnomer and Palm Court be deleted as they are nothing more than definitions and therefore belong on Wikitionary. And finally I need to clarify that the no sources thing applies exclusively to places and nothing else? N1TH Music (talk) 18:47, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- It is very rare we delete anything on here. Since Alakshmi is a religion stub, no. Misnomer is now deleted, Palm Court just needs to be expanded. Ok every article needs to have sources, the most important ones are BLPs and we, like enWP, are strict on those. If other articles have no sources, then feel free to find some if you want but we are not going to delete them. Right now, as I suggested earlier, I recommend you go through WP:Simple Start and click on the links and read about things. That should help you understand a lot more instead of diving right in. This will let you understand more about how we work here. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Great, all this information was helpful, but now I'm curious as to when to draftify or redirect an article if deletion is so rare. N1TH Music (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @N1TH Music: Hi there. This Wikipedia doesn't have a draft system like English Wikipedia ("enwiki") does. You'll find that a lot of things here are done differently. If you'd like to read about some of them, you can look at this unofficial list that I maintain. That list is not policy or guideline, but it does link to some relevant policies and guidelines. If you have any questions about it, feel free to ask on my talk page. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:21, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Great, all this information was helpful, but now I'm curious as to when to draftify or redirect an article if deletion is so rare. N1TH Music (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- It is very rare we delete anything on here. Since Alakshmi is a religion stub, no. Misnomer is now deleted, Palm Court just needs to be expanded. Ok every article needs to have sources, the most important ones are BLPs and we, like enWP, are strict on those. If other articles have no sources, then feel free to find some if you want but we are not going to delete them. Right now, as I suggested earlier, I recommend you go through WP:Simple Start and click on the links and read about things. That should help you understand a lot more instead of diving right in. This will let you understand more about how we work here. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:59, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah I was asking because your wording made it seem a little ambiguous to me whether you meant what you just said or what I just wrote. I've just got a couple more quick questions (sorry I'm asking so much but unlike what I did on enWiki I want to ask questions before I screw up) So what about article about mythological people, should Alakshmi be deleted? Should Misnomer and Palm Court be deleted as they are nothing more than definitions and therefore belong on Wikitionary. And finally I need to clarify that the no sources thing applies exclusively to places and nothing else? N1TH Music (talk) 18:47, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- No all BLPs must have sources. Geographical articles that short typically do not, but as they get expanded they should have references. ALL BLPs MUST have references. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, so Biographies of Living People and Geographic Locations can easily be expanded and thus they don't need to be a certain length or have sources, but everything else does right? N1TH Music (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @N1TH Music Yes and for BLP re WP:BLP PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- We usually apply notability to BLPs etc too. Those articles can be expanded. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:31, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Userpages[change source]
Re: User:Chidgk1/Forest in Turkey
In general, we don't supervise pages in userspace unless the use is clearly improper. I don't think this one counts, though you could ask for another opinion. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:06, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Macdonald-ross: Please see above. User_talk:PotsdamLamb#Sandboxes? PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I've deleted it. Users can request directly if the page is a sub-page of their userpage. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Got it - Thanks! PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I've deleted it. Users can request directly if the page is a sub-page of their userpage. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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Regarding Links[change source]
Respected sir, I saw from your end you have remove my links on the topics I addressed. But sir, I didn't done it for promotion or advertising. I saw many of the topics have least information. Thereby, in order to put some extra information I wrote and gave the source link. It's not for any promotional cause or advertising. I will be extremely grateful to you if you unblock it and understand the matter. Waiting to hear from you soon.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.102.116.48 (talk • contribs) 08:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- This is a spam link and is being used for the promotion of the website which is not a valid reference in the health sector. Therefore, it is not being re-instated. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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- There is a new toolbar in the Reply tool. It works in the wikitext source mode. You can enable it in your preferences. [65] [66] [67]
- Wikimedia mailing lists are being moved to Mailman 3. This is a newer version. For the character encoding to work it will change from
UTF-8toutf8mb3. [68][69] - An earlier issue of Tech News said that the citoid API would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first. [70]
Changes later this week
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MediaWiki:Pageimages-blacklistwill be renamedMediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist. The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles. [71] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 May. It will be on all wikis from 20 May (calendar).
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13:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)