User talk:Rathfelder

Welcome

Hello! I am assuming you have come over from the English Wikipedia, so you are probably familiar with the way this wiki works. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Here are a few links to help you adjust:

• An English Wikipedian's guide
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There is much to do here. For example, there are a lot of articles that do not exist yet, which you can bring over from the English Wikipedia and simplify. Do have a look around and see what you would like to do. Thank you for joining us, and you know how to contact me if you need help. Operator873 ^connect 22:10, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

And also, please do be aware of the WP:ONESTRIKE policy on this project. Operator873 ^connect 22:10, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I am certainly not planning to do anything improper. I may struggle to get some of this content into Simple English so I would be very happy to get advice or assistance. Rathfelder (talk) 22:15, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm starting with social security, on the basis that it is something people who come to the UK and dont speak much English might need to know about. Rathfelder (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

You really need to stop editing for a bit until you're able to read WP:HOW since most of your edits contain complex language. Operator873 ^connect 23:59, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

I am still working on them. I have read WP:HOW. I do work with people with learning difficulties and poor English in this area. I am worried that if we depart too far from the words used by officials the articles will be less helpful. We need to keep the names of the laws. Many of the terms are prescribed in law and using different words can easily be misleading. And some very basic words, like mental and disability, for example, dont appear in the word list and the Wiktionary definition doesnt seem very helpful. I entirely agree that editing here is much harder. Easier to write for the Guardian than the Sun.

Do you think the changes I've made are moving in the right direction? Rathfelder (talk) 08:53, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

NB many of the existing articles in this area use complex language without explanation and some are incomprehensible to me. Rathfelder (talk) 09:11, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

January 2023

Hello, Rathfelder! Here at Simple English Wikipedia we use the section heading "Other websites" instead of English Wikipedia's "External links", which you used in "Department for Work and Pensions". This makes it simpler and easier to read. Please remember to use "Other websites" in articles that you create in the future. Thank you for your help! InfernoGaming46 (IG46) (talk / changes) 23:06, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Still learning! Rathfelder (talk) 23:10, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

LZ77/LZ78...

Hello Rathfelder, I don't know the details of the algorithms, but the basic concepts will likely be similar to Huffman coding, developed about 30 years earlier. Eptalon (talk) 23:18, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Law enforcement category

I think it would make more sense to put Category:Police inside Category:Law enforcement, instead of the other way around. However, I'm not really sure what the difference is between the two categories. Do you know? Maybe they are both the same and should be merged? Lights and freedom (talk) 22:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree police should be inside. I dont think they are the same thing. Police are only one way in which laws are enforced, although the term is much used in the USA, but even there I think there are other ways in which laws are enfoced. Rathfelder (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Do you think prisons should be included in the category? Lights and freedom (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I think so, and also fines and probation and the like, if we have articles about them. Maybe even some aspects of religion. Rathfelder (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Legal terms category

What makes something a legal term? Why is Divorce a legal term, but Eviction is not? Lights and freedom (talk) 20:25, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Good question. I'm still working on them. I wouldn't actually put either in Category:Legal terms. I think that is really for words only used in courts or by lawyers. I've been moving stuff out of the main Category:Law which was really over full. I'm planning to come back to the subcategories in the next few days. Rathfelder (talk) 20:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Divorce is definitely a legal term, whereas "separation" is just an adjective which may or may not get used in a particular court case. A legal term would be one used in actual legislation, with an agreed definition in law. However, one might find that separation does have a legal definition. For example, the use of a length of time might allow a court to decide that a separation was grounds for divorce. In the last resort, if a term is used in legislation, then it it a legal term. Of course, there are differences between countries, that has to be considered. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

But I dont think we want the categories to run on the last resort. There are probably hundreds of thousands of terms which are used in legislation. "Death" for example has legal definitions (rather wonderfully different in different countries). I think it should be for words which people are most likely to come across in a legal context. Rathfelder (talk) 10:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

February 2023

Hello! Thank you for creating a new category. However, we normally need at least three pages in a category before it is created. Because categories are a way to group together similar articles, there is no need to create a new category for just one or two articles. If you think there might be more pages to add to the new category, please add them now. Thank you. It looks like you created a lot of "Government of <country>" categories. Please check them and add entries to the ones that have fewer than 3 entries. Thanks. Auntof6 (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

I am planning to populate them. There will certainly be more than 3 for most countries. Rathfelder (talk) 12:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Category:European organizations

May I ask how this category is different from Category:Organizations based in Europe? MathXplore (talk) 12:17, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

This is for international organisations covering Europe. most of Organizations based in Europe cover just one country, or some, the whole world. Rathfelder (talk) 12:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Then I think the category should be renamed like "Category:International organizations based in Europe", as same as enwiki, what do you think about this? MathXplore (talk) 12:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

That would be different. Being based in Europe is not the same as having Europe as the area covered. Large numbers of international organisastions are baed in Brussels or in Switzerland but they aspire to cover the world.Rathfelder (talk) 12:25, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

For international organisations, where they are based is not really defining.Rathfelder (talk) 12:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

But maybe it should be a subcateghory of Organizations based in Europe?Rathfelder (talk) 12:38, 21 February 2023 (UTC)‎

I think African organisations would also be a helpful category.Rathfelder (talk) 12:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Helpful page

Hello, and thank you for your helpful changes here :) I'm not sure if anyone has pointed you in this direction, but you may find this user essay helpful in pointing out the differences between enwiki and simplewiki. Best regards, --IWI (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

All very sensible! Rathfelder (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Maiden Pharmaceuticals

An editor has requested deletion of Maiden Pharmaceuticals, a page you created. We appreciate your changes, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Please comment on the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2023/Maiden Pharmaceuticals and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also change the article during the discussion to address the nominator's concerns. But you should not remove the requests for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you very much. Eptalon (talk) 18:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Supreme Court cases

I feel like Category:United States Supreme Court cases should be somehow categorized under Category:United States law. But I'm not sure if this should be directly categorized, or if the whole US judicial system should be under United States law. What do you think? Lights and freedom (talk) 19:15, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

We probably need a category of US caselaw and this would be a sub cat of it. Rathfelder (talk) 19:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)