User talk:Vermont/Archive 3
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Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 6 January 2020.
Recent changes
- All mobile site users now have new features. Features include: tabs for page/discussion; an expanded user-menu; direct access to history pages. These features were initially part of the "advanced mode".
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.
Future changes
- You can use
setlangin the URL to change the user interface language. This will no longer happen automatically. When you open the link you will be asked to confirm the language change. This will not happen if Javascript is not working in your browser. [1]
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20:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
- When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [2]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 January. It will be on all wikis from 9 January (calendar).
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21:23, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser use very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It can lead to downgrade attacks. Since 9 December you just see a warning. Soon the browser will not connect to the wikis at all. Most are users on Android systems older than 4.4. You can read the browser recommendations. [3]
- Special:LinkSearch has been moved from the "Redirecting special pages" section on Special:SpecialPages to the "Lists of pages" section. [4]
Changes later this week
Wikis can protect pages so that only some users can edit them. The standard protection levels are Allow only autoconfirmed users and Allow only administrators. If your wiki use more protection levels the technical name might be renamed for standardisation. This doesn't affect what users see. [5]- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 January. It will be on all wikis from 16 January (calendar).
Future changes
- Deepcat and Catgraph will stop working. This will happen at the end of January. This is because you can now use the normal search function instead. [6]
- You can use
<ref follow="…">to merge footnotes that follow each other. It is meant to be used for digitised books on Wikisource. If the order of the footnotes is wrong no error was shown but the bad <ref> was shown outside the <references /> list. This will change and you will see an error message instead. [7]
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:41, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 January. It will be on all wikis from 23 January (calendar).
Future changes
- There is a new suggestion for what to show when someone edits without registering an account. This is to give unregistered editors better privacy and make some anti-vandalism work go faster. You can give feedback.
- Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will no longer support Python 2. Use the
python2tag if you need to continue running Python 2 scripts. The Pywikibot team strongly recommends to migrate to Python 3. You can get help to do so. [8] - The weekly MediaWiki branch cut will soon become automated. The timing for this cut may change. You can discuss in Phabricator if this affects you. [9]
- You can read about coming technical events and mentoring interns.
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19:42, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Your response on Wikipedia:Simple talk[change source]
Seriously, this is the best response you can come up? --Lauren600 (talk) 03:13, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- I was trying to get some constructive edits from you before I had to block you. On another note, I honestly know nothing about the Super Bowl other than it happens and has something to do with American Football, so I wouldn't feel comfortable editing it myself. Vermont (talk) 03:15, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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Problems
- Some mobile diffs have problems. A couple of buttons are not shown. Structured data diffs on Commons are confusing. The developers are working on fixing it. [10][11]
- Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions can't move discussion pages. This is a bug. The developers are working on fixing it. [12]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- There is JavaScript code on Special:Undelete for administrators that makes it possible to automatically select multiple checkboxes by holding the "Shift" key and clicking. This code is also loaded by accident on other special pages and on articles. This makes pages slower to load. This will be fixed. If you know of other special pages where this is useful please tell the developers at phab:T232688.
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18:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 February. It will be on all wikis from 6 February (calendar).
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20:05, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Page move request[change source]
Can any administrator please move Palestine to Palestine (region) and Palestine (disambiguation) to Palestine to avoid confusion. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 17:16, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- ColorfulSmoke, it seems like it coulc potentially be a controversial move. Please create a discussion at WP:ST to discuss it with the community. Vermont (talk) 17:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- There is a new version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It should fix the failed uploads problem. [13]
Problems
- There was a problem with the new MediaWiki version last week. It deleted some messages by accident. The new version was late because it was stopped to fix things. [14]
Changes later this week
- The MediaWiki action API is used by various tools like bots and gadgets. Some error codes will change. Some parameter values that do not follow the standard will no longer work. [15]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 February. It will be on all wikis from 13 February (calendar).
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19:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi. This article is at 5 wikis, predominantly all by the same author, and seems to be 1) a conflict of interest article, and 2) puffery with weak or faked references. I have started the deletion discussion at English Wikipedia, though thought that I should flag the article to a simple Wikipedia admin. Thanks. Billinghurst (talk) 11:05, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: I QD A4 (enwp A7) and G11. It's sheer spam (UPE/ puffery etc). Hope an admin agrees. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:16, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- Pages on Wikidata and Commons now load faster. You can read more about page load performance. [16][17]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 February. It will be on all wikis from 20 February (calendar).
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16:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Contributions for User:Ahmadqatari[change source]
Hello, shall we nuke their contributions? Per this, confirmed socking, xwiki promo. Regards,--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:07, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
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Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 February. It will be on all wikis from 27 February (calendar).
Future changes
- There will be a reply button after each post on a talk page if you want one. This will soon be a beta feature on the Arabic, French, Dutch and Hungarian Wikipedias. You will have to turn it on if you want to use it. It will come to more wikis later. You can test the reply button. It was briefly shown earlier than planned by mistake on the four first wikis last week.
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21:00, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Readers who were not logged in briefly saw the interface in a language decided by their browser. It should normally be in the language of the wiki. This happened for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug. [18]
Changes later this week
- If you forget your password you can ask for a new one to be sent to your email address. You need to know your email address or your username. You will now be able to choose that you need to enter both your email address and your username. This will be a preference. This is to get fewer password reset emails someone else asked for. [19]
- When you asked for a new password you could see if the username didn't exist on Special:PasswordReset. Now the page will show the username you entered and tell you an email has been sent if the username exists. This is for better security. [20]
- On Special:WhatLinksHere you can see what other pages link to a page. You can see if the link is from a redirect. You can now see which section the redirect links to. [21]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 March. It will be on all wikis from 5 March (calendar).
Future changes
- The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. You can give feedback. [22]
- There is a vote on the creation of a new user group called abuse filter manager. The vote runs from March 1 to March 31 on Meta.
-
wgMFSpecialCaseMainPagewas used for the mobile site. It was deprecated in 2017. It will stop working in April. Wikis should see if they use it. If they do they should fix it. You can read more and ask for help. This affects 183 wikis. There is a list. [23]
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00:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a new search word called
articletopic. You can use it to search for articles on a specific topic. It is available on the Arabic, Czech, English and Vietnamese Wikipedias. It will come to more Wikipedias soon. [24][25][26]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 March. It will be on all wikis from 12 March (calendar).
Future changes
- There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.
- The Wikipedia Android app will do push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will come later this year. [27]
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17:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a new API module for changing the content model of existing pages. Use
action=changecontentmodelto specify the new model. You can read the documentation on mediawiki.org. [28]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 March. It will be on all wikis from 19 March (calendar).
Future changes
- If you edit a page at the same time as someone else you can get an edit conflict. There is a new two-column interface to make it easier to solve this. It will soon be active by default on the German, Arabic, and Farsi Wikipedias. It will be on by default on more wikis within the next months. You will be able to opt out of the new interface. [29][30]
- You can see a proposed design for replying to comments in an easier way.
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21:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Autokwix spammers[change source]
I just CU-blocked Special:CentralAuth/Nikolay.kozhukharenko and Special:CentralAuth/LiamBrooksElder on English Wikipedia for spamming and sock puppetry. You might want to keep on eye on Special:LinkSearch/https://autokwix.com here. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- NinjaRobotPirate, thanks! I'll keep watch on it, here and globally. Vermont (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
My eMail problem[change source]
@Vermont: Is there a way to disable eMail from me WITHOUT blocking me? So I am not tempted? Gale5050 (talk) 02:01, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- No. Just don't press the email button, not that hard. Vermont (talk) 02:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Ok, I will avoid eMailing users and take advantage of user talk pages! Gale5050 (talk) 12:40, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Being blocked[change source]
@Vermont:, do I have a higher chance of being blocked because of what happened on Meta and the English Wikipedia? Gale5050 (talk) 12:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yes. See WP:ONESTRIKE. Vermont (talk) 15:16, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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Problems
- Some development will be slower than planned. This is because of the current pandemic. You can see the new deployment guidelines. This is to avoid risks when some persons could be unavailable.
- There was a problem when adding interwiki links. The tool you use to add interwiki links could suggest the wrong project to link to. This has now been fixed. [31][32]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 March. It will be on all wikis from 26 March (calendar).
Future changes
- There is a project to make editing easier for newcomers. The developers are trying to understand what initiatives different Wikipedias have to welcome newcomers. They also want to know which templates are often used for maintenance activities. You can help this project by checking if your wiki's pages are listed on Wikidata.
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17:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The beta version of the Wikipedia app for Android can now help users add tags on Commons. These tags are called depicts. [33]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 April. It will be on all wikis from 2 April (calendar).
Future changes
- The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. The current beta feature will become the video player for everyone. The old player will be removed. [34]
- There is a project to make templates easier to use. The next few weeks the developers will present ideas on the project page. You can watch that page if you are interested in giving feedback. [35]
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17:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
vip[change source]
more there --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:45, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, blocked. Vermont (talk) 23:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Email[change source]
Can I email you something? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, my email's on my userpage. Vermont (talk) 00:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
You've got mail![change source]
Message added 00:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC). You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.
Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Replied with a question --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- No need to comment here every time you send an email, I get push notification on my phone. Vermont (talk) 00:36, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, Sorry about that --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Advice[change source]
The "articles is need of copyedit" category is winding down to just articles that would need heavy re-sourcing to fix.
If I wanted to do something really cool here on Simple, really impress people for my unblock request at English, what would you think that should be? What does the site need? I don't have much in the way of techie skills. Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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Problems
- There was a problem with user pages not being shown properly on desktop. This was because of a bug. It will soon be fixed. [36]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 April. It will be on all wikis from 9 April (calendar).
Future changes
- MediaWiki will use a newer version of Unicode. Some characters that did not have an upper case equivalent before do now. Titles beginning with one of these characters will be moved. A list of these titles can be seen on Phabricator. The titles will be renamed by the user
Maintenance script. This will start on 13 April 2020. You can rename them before this if you wish and the new title can be different from the one the script would rename it to. [37]
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19:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use the
articletopicsearch word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [38] - You can see wiki tools in the new Tools Gallery. [39]
- You can see edits from the Wikimedia Cloud Services in a new dashboard.
- When you use filters on a history page you sometimes don't see any edits. There is a text explaining this now. Before it was just empty. [40]
- There is a new Wikimedia Technical Blog. [41]
Problems
- There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [42][43][44]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).
Future changes
- Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [45]
- The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
- For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated
<source>tag, as well as the use of the deprecatedencloseparameter, will add tracking categories.
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15:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.
Recent changes
- The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [46]
- Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed.
div#contentis now.mw-body.div.portalis now.portal.div#footeris now#footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [47]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [48]
- The font in the diffs will change. [49]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).
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18:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
User talk:Legis Regis[change source]
you may wish to remove tpa --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Operator873 you seem to be active --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Black garden ant[change source]
Hi Vermont, I was working on this page before dinner, came back and it was gone...deleted as long term abuse - I hope that is not me :( . I assume whoever started the page may have a problem, but should not have been deleted. Peterdownunder (talk) 12:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Peterdownunder. Extremely sorry about that. I've been using a new script lately, called "all-in-one", and thought it useful to test out on the Pakistan IP vandal's latest iteration. In short, it blocked the IP, reverted all edits, and deleted all created pages. I did not check every one of the 13 pages that was deleted, unfortunately, and that's negligence on my part. I'm going to talk to the person who created the script to see if we could input a feature that does not delete pages other users have since edited. If not, I'll check each page individually prior to deletion. Thank you, Vermont (talk) 13:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Peterdownunder, and Vermont, sorry for re-tagging the page --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:15, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- What page? It doesn't appear that you've edited Black garden ant. Vermont (talk) 15:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- The redirect for it, since you deleted it, I retagged it, the link is in my qd log --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Lasius niger --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:24, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- I am glad that I am not the only one who makes mistakes :) Peterdownunder (talk) 22:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Lasius niger --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:24, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- The redirect for it, since you deleted it, I retagged it, the link is in my qd log --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 15:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- What page? It doesn't appear that you've edited Black garden ant. Vermont (talk) 15:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Category:CS1 errors: dates[change source]
- Do you want to add this to your task list? I work on this category, but I alone can't fix the 3000+ pages. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:11, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've got a lot to work on right now, so maybe afterwards. Best, Vermont (talk) 23:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Cool Deal --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've got a lot to work on right now, so maybe afterwards. Best, Vermont (talk) 23:40, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
thanks[change source]
thanks vermont! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser, of course! I'll note that, for the future, it's usually best to report them on VIP or IRC and not edit war with them. Because, well, Zzuuzz probably has about 20 or so pings, and also en:WP:DENY. Regards, Vermont (talk) 23:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ah got it! I intentionally waited 1 minute or two in between to revert them so that they will bored waiting and leave, will not continue this discussion per wp:deny. I didn't know to not edit war with them. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Denying recognition by leaving a vandalized version up 🤔 Naleksuh (talk) 23:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- In some cases, yes. Edit warring is giving recognition. However, if it's on a high-visibility page in mainspace, revert revert revert. When it's just simple vandalism in userspace, there's no real point in continually edit warring. Vermont (talk) 23:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Denying recognition by leaving a vandalized version up 🤔 Naleksuh (talk) 23:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ah got it! I intentionally waited 1 minute or two in between to revert them so that they will bored waiting and leave, will not continue this discussion per wp:deny. I didn't know to not edit war with them. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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sorry for edit warring there. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:57, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- No issues :) Vermont (talk) 23:58, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
question[change source]
I added a wiki link to Wikipedia:Very good articles/Geisha I added a wiki link to maiko. TDKR Chicago 101 said that It's probably fine to do so. Just wanting to confirm with you that it was okay? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:00, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yep, looks good! Vermont (talk) 00:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
RFC[change source]
Hi Vermont, I have nominated you for a position as Checkuser on the Simple English Wikipedia. You will need to accept the nomination, and two, you will need to fix up the info box as I couldn't get it to work! I hope the outcome will be successful, as I believe you have the energy and the skills necessary to do the job.Peterdownunder (talk) 12:02, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Vermont, I have moved it to Wikipedia:Requests for checkusership/Vermont. Good luck!-BRP ever 13:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing it! I've just accepted it, and transcluded it on the relevant page. Vermont (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Peter! I'm honored to accept the nomination from you, and look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts on it. Vermont (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)