Wikipedia:Requests for permissions

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Archived requests

Administrator / Bureaucrat / Checkuser / Oversighter
Rollbacker
Patroller
Importer

Permissions

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  • Rollbacker is a user who can quickly revert changes by other users. See Wikipedia:Rollback feature.
  • Flood is a very short-term permission that a user can get from any administrator to make lots of small edits in a row. When using the flood permission, a user’s edits will be hidden by default from Special:RecentChanges.
  • Patroller is a user who can review new pages that other users make by marking them "patrolled". Any pages a patroller makes do not have to be reviewed by others.
  • Administrator (also called an "admin" or "sysop") is a user who can delete and protect pages and block users. Admins can also grant the rollback, flood and patroller permissions.
  • Bureaucrat (also called a "crat") is a user who can grant and revoke the admin and bot permissions.
  • Checkuser is a user who can see private information about editors (for example, their IP addresses).
  • Oversight is a user who can hide private information from everyone except other oversighters, stewards and founders.
  • Transwiki importer is a user who has use of the import tool to move pages here from other projects. This is not to be confused with importer, who can upload XML files using the import tool. Importer is not granted on this wiki.
  • Uploader is a user who can upload files locally on this wiki. This permission is granted temporarily and will be removed once the task is complete.

Adding a new request

Rollbacker

You must be an active member of Simple English Wikipedia, preferably with some experience in reverting vandalism.

Rollback must never be used to revert in edit wars, or to remove good-faith changes. Use the undo feature for this, and give a reason. Rollback does not let you give a reason when reverting. It must only be used to revert bad changes. It can and will be revoked if misused.

Click here to request rollback.

Flood

Requests for the temporary (short-term) flood permission should be made on an administrator’s talk page, on the #wikipedia-simple connect IRC channel, or at the Administrators' noticeboard.

Uploader

Requests for temporary (short-term) file upload permissions should be made on the Administrators' noticeboard. An administrator should be notified once the uploads are done so that the permission can be removed.
Image uploads are not allowed, this should only be requested for uploading other media (such as audio clips)

Administrator

Please read the Criteria for administratorship before nominating another user or yourself, to make sure the nominated user meets the criteria for becoming an administrator. You may want to look at the archives first so you can see why other people’s requests have succeeded or failed.

Administrator tools are there to better help the community. They do not make certain users better than others. To nominate a candidate for adminship, please follow these instructions:

  1. In the input box below, replace USERNAME with the username of the person you are nominating for adminship.
  2. Complete the fields given to you.
  3. Once the user has accepted, add {{Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/<insert name of person nominated>}} underneath the Current requests for adminship heading below, at the very top of the list.
  4. Optional: Add {{rfa-notice}} to the candidate's userpage.

Notes: This is not the place to get "constructive feedback from others", if you want feedback from others in a less formal environment, please see Simple Talk. If a candidate is successful, an administrator or bureaucrat should add them to MediaWiki:Gadget-HighlightAdmins.js.


Bureaucrat, Checkuser, or Oversight

For the bureaucrat, checkuser, or oversight permission, a user first needs to be an administrator. There are special requirements at Criteria for administratorship for these users.

Current time is 20:12:21, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Purge

Current requests for rollback

User:MathXplore

  • MathXplore (talk · contribs · count) (assign permissions)
  • I hereby nominate MathXplore for rollbacker flag. Since joining simplewiki in 2020, MathXplore has been active in the area of maintenance and RC patrolling, and has a large amount of revert in the past. I think this tool could bring them convenience. Thanks. Stang 15:27, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    You don't actually nominate people for this flag. They will ask for it if they want it. -Djsasso (talk) 16:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Djsasso: Got it, please close this request. I know some sites allow people to nominate others for such non-sysop permission, and I don't know no such thing here and sorry for this post. Stang 23:29, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Rollback granted by BRPever. --Ferien (talk) 19:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Current requests for patroller

User:Mwiqdoh

I have been reviewing and tagging many new pages, and I have a lot of experience on Wikipedia. I think this would be a great tool for me. Mwiqdoh (talk) 04:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
X mark.svg Not done Your work here so far has been great in my opinion but for patroller, many new articles need to be created. You have created quite a few articles but I'd like to see some more experience with this before the patroller right is given to you. Please keep up the good work. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 14:35, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ferien: Thanks for the feedback! Mwiqdoh (talk) 14:57, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Current requests for importer

None at this time

Current requests for adminship

None at this time

Current requests for bureaucratship

None at this time

Current requests for checkusership

None at this time

Current requests for oversight

None at this time

Current requests for removal of rights

Lofty abyss

Lofty abyss (talk · contribs · count)

End date: 17:25, 20 January 2022 (UTC)


Hello there,

I'm requesting that Lofty abyss have their adminship removed here. The reason of this is due to very long-term inactivity.

As many of you will be aware, we have an inactive admins policy here. The main idea of this policy is that if you make less than 100 edits in a calendar year (from January to December), your admin will be removed and if you don't make any edits at all for a year, your admin will be removed. However, the option of using RfdA to remove administrators who gamed this system was always left open, which is why I'm here today. This inactivity policy exists so admins continue to be familiar with policy. If they are inactive then they may have issues with new policies. They need to be around so they know the policies well.

As you can see from their yearly edit counts, since 2012, Lofty abyss has made around 100 edits or less each and every year, with the notable exception of 2019, the year which they lost their stewardship for inactivity. As you can see from Lofty abyss' most recent contributions, a majority of them were made using AWB, and also made on Christmas Day or the days after. They got to 108 changes in 2021 according to XTools, just over the 100 change minimum. I don't think anyone would particularly care if this was a one-time occurrence. However, this appears to be a pattern, doing the bare minimum just to keep the admin and CU hats, and this has gone on for 9-10 years. It is also disappointing that despite the fact Lofty abyss made around 75 edits in a week, they have not made a single edit in 2022 – and this shows that they are definitely gaming the system. Not to mention the fact that all of Lofty abyss' edits in 2021 made through AWB were exclusively typo fixing, which as you can see at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage and in the archives there, is not allowed here.

So, in conclusion, they have gamed the inactivity policy and they have also seemed to have forgotten the AWB rules we have here. And from the recent levels of activity, it appears they are not interested in being an active – or even semi-active – part of our community. Personally, if this RfdA succeeds, I have no problem with them running in the future if they have sustained activity here and they are active in their other roles too.

Thank you for your time, --Ferien (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support

  • Support Has a track record of hat collecting and not using the tools on not just this wiki but on others as well such as commons and even a Stewardship. Has been gaming the system for a number of years now and its time to finally end it. -Djsasso (talk) 17:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support After much thought, I have decided to lean towards supporting this request. While lofty's years of service are always appreciated, it is apparent that they are only active to keep their tools. This is displayed by the inactivity throughout the year and a burst of automatic/semi-automatic edits at the end of the year. Minimum criteria are not the standard for activity and it is just a means for automatic removal of the flag without going through deadminship proposal. Based on what I have seen from them here and elsewhere, I don't think they intend to go beyond the minimum in the coming years. However, if they display a certain level of constant activity in the coming years, I will be more than happy to support a new RFA, should they decide to run again. Thanks --BRP ever 01:06, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Removal For me, the proverbial coffin nail was using automated edits to up their edit count while, at the same time, breaching community expectations and appropriate uses of AWB on this project. Additionally, as a functionary, Lofty's CU tool use count for 2021 was in the single digits at 8 total checks. Per Djsasso said, it's time for the games to end. I have every expectation Lofty will claim ignorance of policy, extenuating circumstances, and wikilawyer any cited concerns brought by members of this community, quite similar to what happened when they were removed as a Steward. I truly hope Lofty turns their behavior around and becomes an active community member again soon. Unfortunately, semi-automated edits all in the final weeks of 2021 just won't do. Operator873 connect 03:40, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support removal people who are not active members of this community should not be administrators. --IWI (talk) 04:54, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Never seen them around. Hulged (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per others. Minorax (talk) 07:03, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I've been thinking about this for some time now. Even now I'm a little unsure, however I think this is the way we need to go. My initial gut feeling was to oppose. While to me, it felt pretty obvious what was happening when I saw the AWB edits start to roll in at the 11th hour, there isn't a policy against that. I'm not even sure it is really "gaming the system". It's within the system completely, however it probably isn't in the spirit of the rules. So, I was thinking I had to oppose until we somehow changed the inactive admin policy to make the system more robust. I still think updating the policy would be a good idea, however I realized that isn't really the discussion here. I think you need to step back and think "Would I support Lofty abyss if they were at RfA today?", and the answer would be no, based on activity. Lofty really hasn't been active since 2010, where they had 775 changes. If somebody applied for the admin tools with 775 changes I think we'd unanimously say no, and that was over a decade ago. So, it is just time. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 04:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  • Conditional oppose Just blew in from IRC where I developed an opinion before reading the rest of this thread.
I think we should acknowledge a few things. 1) Lofty didn't break any rules. 2) Ferien also isn't breaking any rules by starting thsi de-adminification discussion. If an admin didn't break any rules, it can still be okay to remove adminship. 3) There are two practical issues at hand a) eleven months of inactivity means that the SEWP community could have made a really big change of some kind and Lofty wouldn't have known about it the way an admin should and b) perhaps because of the rush to get things in under deadline, the quality of the 100 changes Lofty made here on SEWP may have been poor. 4) 2020 and 2021 were really weird years worldwide which probably affected the ability of many editors to contribute to Wikis. 5) What I'm seeing here on this thread that I didn't get in IRC was that Lofty has done this for many years in a row, to going back before the coronavirus pandemic. This supports the claims of hat collecting.
Loftyabyss, can you make a promise to us here at Simple that, in 2022, you will at least spread out your 100 edits across all twelve months so that you will keep in touch with the community? That way you would be far more likely to hear about any important changes and would not feel the pressure to use tools in ways that other editors here clearly believe are not good. (I'm not weighing in on whether they're right at this time.) You've got a nine-year pattern. Do you want to break it? Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:38, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I'm sorry, but is AWB supposed to not be used? What's the difference between a manual typo fix, and one found using regex? I'm also not sure what you mean by it not being allowed? I might be misremembering, but I'm more certain than not that I asked for that a decade ago, but I could always ask again now if it's needed again (someone could have informed me on my talk page). And last year I used the tools close to 50 times, should it be 100s, 1000s otherwise? Surely my usage shows I am still using the buttons... -- Lofty abyss 17:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No the first rule of AWB is not to use to just fix typos. The reason is that AWB can't determine on its own if the spelling is correct in the usage that is being used. It often changes the spelling of words that were not wrong for the context they were being used in. As for looking at your usage history, you almost never use them. You have very rarely used them since you received them. You only show up at the end of every year to make just enough edits to not have your tools removed. In fact one year you did just enough on Dec 31st to hit exactly 100 which made it pretty obvious you were just gaming the system. You may not remember but back when you first asked for the flags you told a number of us that you only wanted the flags so you could run for Steward. It has been clear for years that you never actually intended to be active here and were just collecting flags. -Djsasso (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly do very much read the entire page when they're loaded... not sure if you're implying I just save every edit (I'd otherwise have thousands). That's proven in the mismatched edit summaries... often I fix other typos too. And I'm not sure about the latter, as that is long in the past and I still remained to edit here. I certainly am not the most active, but surely not only the most active are needed... -- Lofty abyss 18:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Only editing for a for the most part in a brief period of at the end of December isn't "not the most active" it is effectively completely inactive. To be an admin, the requirement is being active. -Djsasso (talk) 18:09, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I guess, inactive in comparison to 10k a day or something, if that was possible... but yet again, I don't understand why this is a necessity on volunteer projects... they're already generally becoming less active on average, overall... should that process be accelerated by only having the most active, until they can necessarily no longer be active? -- Lofty abyss 18:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, admins need to be active because they have to be current on the current policies and the current culture on the wiki. Admins who are not active either forget the policy they knew or don't know current policy. A perfect example was demonstrated by you using AWB solely to fix typos. We don't require editors to have any activity requirement. But admins need activity so they are current on policy and because inactive accounts on a wiki with elevated permissions is a security risk. -Djsasso (talk) 18:16, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you need to verify whether they're current then surely a test for that would be a better alternative than throwing the baby with the bathwater, per se... and I'm not sure how AWB can't be used to fix typos... not much else to do with it, besides cosmetic changes (which are the ones that IMO shouldn't be done on their own)... and I did often save edits with typo fixes, and cosmetic changes... -- Lofty abyss 18:20, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You may be making other good cosmetic changes to the page whilst correcting those typos, but AWB shouldn't be used to correct those typos in the first place. --Ferien (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment: I am just a little puzzled about this speedy here, we do not have a QD saying "no meaningful content or history", the 1st part can be A1, but history doesn't fit in. I wonder would it be better if the reasons can be using the standard QD reasons. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:05, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It would indeed be useful if the nuke function had prefilled templates, but I'm not sure what you mean about history not fitting in (it's some sexual nonsense likely done by a bot, so I assume "no meaningful content or history" fits...) -- Lofty abyss 19:52, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In the case given it was the usual sex-related graffitti, might have been deleted as Vandalism, Test page, no meaning, or several other reasons. It was a clear case, I think pretty much any other admin would have done the same.--Eptalon (talk) 19:58, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    QD reasons: G1, A1, for example...--Eptalon (talk) 20:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry I am unclear. I mean that I will think that it's best to at least state the criterion for deletion as some users that are new will then have some guidance on why their page isn't acceptable. I didn't know this is done via nuke, and the user is a serial vandal, this might then be acceptable. In general, I mean that in QD there isn't mention of history, except for user requested deletion etc, hence I will think that this might be confusing to users seeing why no meaningful history is a valid deletion reason. Of course this refers to good faith users. Yeah nuke should have the option to use prefilled reasons, that might be worth a wishlist survey item?. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]