Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Patroller/Archives/2013
User:Mediran[change source]
- Mediran (talk · contribs · count) (assign permissions)
- Useful flag - I'm already an autopatrolled user in the English Wikipedia and I would like to do so also here in the Simple English because I'm quite active now in content-creation and also for patrolling new pages. Having this rights would be helpful for me and for Wikipedia as well. I would like to have the ability to mark pages as patrolled and also for my changes to be automatically patrolled, for the benefit of the project. Thanks in advance, Mediran (t • c) 04:35, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Done Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 12:50, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
User:LlamaAl[change source]
- LlamaAl (talk · contribs · count) (assign permissions)
- I'm already a rollbacker here. I have this right in the Spanish Wikipedia, and the reviewer flag in enWP. This user right would be useful for patrolling new pages; I'm very familiar with the policy. Thanks. --LlamaAl (talk) 00:41, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't doubt your experience in other wikis, but I don't see any real need for this here. You have created just one article here and since our policies about content differ from that of most other wikis, I think you should edit a little more here before you start new page patrolling (we don't have a huge backlog anyway). Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 12:49, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, I will create more content. By the way, here's my QD log. --LlamaAl (talk) 14:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't doubt your experience in other wikis, but I don't see any real need for this here. You have created just one article here and since our policies about content differ from that of most other wikis, I think you should edit a little more here before you start new page patrolling (we don't have a huge backlog anyway). Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 12:49, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
User:Pratyya Ghosh[change source]
- Pratyya Ghosh (talk · contribs · count) (assign permissions)
I have created many articles in this wiki and know about this wiki. How to right in simple english is known to me. So I want this right to help this wiki by automatically reviewing my creations. If any questions ask me.--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
- "How to right in simple english is known to me"? I'm sorry, but that sentence is not simple. It isn't even proper English. I'd feel better if patrollers had good English skills so they could better tell what was vandalism. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:08, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Many of your articles are lists with near zero prose, so I did not include them while considering this request. Some of your articles lacked categories, stub tags etc., others were unreferenced BLPs, some were directly copied from enwiki without attribution. I also agree with Auntof6 that patrollers should have good English skills as it is required to create articles that do not need extensive further editing (to make them readable) and to judge whether a page should be tagged for deletion or not. Therefore, I think it is better you edit a bit more before getting this right. Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 23:30, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Not done per above. Osiris (talk) 07:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
User:StevenJ81[change source]
I have started to add pages to this wiki. My edit count on all projects is about 2000. I have written to administrators and on Simple Talk about helping changers write Simple English. There is an example of my work in my sandbox, here. I created The Simple Barnstar to support the work of this wiki. I have not yet asked for the autopatrolled flag on en because I do not create many new pages there. But I have the reviewer flag there and do new page patrol. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:21, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Steven. Could you please ask again later, once you've created a fair amount of new pages? At the moment you don't meet the requirements. Thanks. Osiris (talk) 03:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sure. What constitutes "meets the requirements", though? There does not appear to be a fixed requirement, and I have a fair history between here and en (which I appreciate is a different project, but I do have a clean record). StevenJ81 (talk) 01:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- A good amount of new articles. "Administrators can grant this right at their discretion to trusted users who regularly create articles and have demonstrated they are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines". I patrol NewPages pretty much every day, and I sometimes assign the flag automatically to users who consistently appear next to articles that don't need any fixing. Osiris (talk) 09:59, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
- Understood. Just so you know: I wanted the flag as much to help patrol as for any creations I might make myself. Truth tell, I suspect that most of my work here for a while is going to be in filling out stub articles on important Judaism topics. These won't actually show up on new page lists. I may take the liberty of bringing major edits on current pages to your attention periodically so you can judge my work. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- We don't actually patrol here like on en.wiki. Some people do do it like Osiris but we mostly just use this flag so that peoples page creations are marked as good automatically so generally we want to see a fair number of article creations before we hand it out. -DJSasso (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not to comment on this request, but people do patrol here. There are quite a few editors who check the new pages (and not just articles) looking for vandalism and other issues. That amounts to patrolling, even though not all those editors have the patroller right. To say we don't really patrol here is to discourage people from doing this this worthwhile task. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think Djsasso means that when people check over a new page they don't actually use the flag to mark the pages as patrolled, and that the flag is used more for having one's own pages marked automatically (autopatrol) than for marking the pages of others (patrol). How accurate that is you can see for yourself on Special:Log/patrol: the items with the word "automatically" is the autopatrol part of the flag being used (i.e., a page being created by a patroller), and the items without the word "automatically" is patrollers clicking the button on a page created by somebody without the patroller flag. The item for Poolesville high school is an example of what Djsasso is referring to -- Creol was the one to fix up the page, but it wasn't marked as patrolled until I marked it the next day. On the other hand, the item for Struga is an example of a patroller (Gotanda) marking a page patrolled as they're fixing it up. Osiris (talk) 22:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm finding this discussion interesting, my "candidacy" notwithstanding. There is a reason that enwiki does things the way it does, and at the same time there is a reason that we don't (usually) need to do things the same way here. I fully get that. I think some of this should be incorporated into a page about new page patrol here at simple so that people understand the differences.
- As for me, I'll just sit tight until/unless you think I've created a sufficient number of new pages. I doubt you'll ever find me "irresponsible" about things, but I'll be the first to admit that I continue to seek guidance on the workings of this wiki—including, for example, keeping my English simple.StevenJ81 (talk) 01:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
- I think Djsasso means that when people check over a new page they don't actually use the flag to mark the pages as patrolled, and that the flag is used more for having one's own pages marked automatically (autopatrol) than for marking the pages of others (patrol). How accurate that is you can see for yourself on Special:Log/patrol: the items with the word "automatically" is the autopatrol part of the flag being used (i.e., a page being created by a patroller), and the items without the word "automatically" is patrollers clicking the button on a page created by somebody without the patroller flag. The item for Poolesville high school is an example of what Djsasso is referring to -- Creol was the one to fix up the page, but it wasn't marked as patrolled until I marked it the next day. On the other hand, the item for Struga is an example of a patroller (Gotanda) marking a page patrolled as they're fixing it up. Osiris (talk) 22:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Not to comment on this request, but people do patrol here. There are quite a few editors who check the new pages (and not just articles) looking for vandalism and other issues. That amounts to patrolling, even though not all those editors have the patroller right. To say we don't really patrol here is to discourage people from doing this this worthwhile task. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- We don't actually patrol here like on en.wiki. Some people do do it like Osiris but we mostly just use this flag so that peoples page creations are marked as good automatically so generally we want to see a fair number of article creations before we hand it out. -DJSasso (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Understood. Just so you know: I wanted the flag as much to help patrol as for any creations I might make myself. Truth tell, I suspect that most of my work here for a while is going to be in filling out stub articles on important Judaism topics. These won't actually show up on new page lists. I may take the liberty of bringing major edits on current pages to your attention periodically so you can judge my work. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
User:Pratyya Ghosh[change source]
- Pratyya Ghosh (talk · contribs · count)
I can't say that I create articles regularly. But I can say that I create them occasionally. I'm in simple English wiki for almost 6 months. In this time I created 50+ articles and learning regularly. Also I patrol new pages. So I think I can be trusted with this right. Any question?--Pratyya (Hello!) 17:15, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Not done This is really meant for people who create alot of articles of known good quality so that they don't show up as unpatrolled. We don't actually patrol persay like they do on enwiki. Would prefer to give it out once you have a history of creating pages in simple English. Generally an admin will give it to you automatically when they have noticed your name in the new pages a lot next to articles that don't need fixing. -DJSasso (talk) 18:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
User:WorldTraveller101[change source]
WorldTraveller101 (talk · contribs · count) (assign permissions)
- I have read the policies carefully and I have created several legit pages and am an autopatroller on Commons and if I'm a patroller, it'll reduce the backlog. Thanks. WorldTraveller101 ? 01:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
- There isn't actually a backlog at the moment. There are always new pages that need fixing up, but you don't need patroller access to be able to do it. It'd be better if you had a bit more experience with either article creation or new-page patrolling before you requested access. Your last article needed quite a bit of correction: this was the state you left it in. Osiris (talk) 02:16, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I'll be careful with new pages, and I've created several pages. Thanks. AeroAddict (talk) 02:28, 17 August 2013 (UTC) FYI, AeroAddict is the alt account of WorldTraveller101. Thanks.
- Now that I'm back at my desktop, I'll give a good response. Osiris I'll be careful. I'm taking all given advice. My new articles will be of good quality. If I'm given patrolled, I'll tread lightly and carefully. WorldTraveller101 ? 23:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- After seeing SpongeBob's Truth or Square (which I just deleted), I oppose this user being given patroller rights. The article was a near copy of the enwiki article, except for a large paragraph that was in Spanish for some reason. WorldTraveller, I'd like to see your articles actually be good, instead of just assurance that they will be good. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Auntof6 and Osiris I withdraw my patrol request. Thanks anyway. WorldTraveller101 ? 02:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
User:TCN7JM[change source]
- TCN7JM (talk · contribs · count) (assign permissions)
After creating twenty articles about cities in South Dakota here at the Simple English Wikipedia, with more to come surely, I believe I can be trusted not to add inappropriate content to this wiki, and that it would benefit other patrollers to not have to patrol my work. Thanks for your consideration. TCN7JM 04:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Osiris (talk) 06:02, 17 November 2013 (UTC)