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Article Power of ten

Hello, I’ve found this article while I was checking Recent changes, yeah it’s referenced, but my question is: this type of articles need to be tagged with a any template or in a Wikiproyect, because the article by itself (for me) doesn’t seem to be appropriate for Wikipedia, in my experience it would be better for Wikibooks, but there’s not a simple version for Wikibooks, any suggestion of answer? Emolga826 (any problem?) 19:45, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~I agree it doesn't seem appropriate for Wikipedia, and it's very short too. Probably should be deleted.~~ Sophocrat (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I note that the English Wikipedia has this article in a much expanded state at en:power of 10. It exists at 20 other wikis as well. CountryANDWestern (talk) 21:39, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I had forgotten that... You're right. Well, anyone's welcome to expand the article then. Thank you. Sophocrat (talk) 00:41, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Series or programming?

I have recently noticed that we have recently had new categories that are referred to as "original programming", instead of "original series", as we normally do. Has there been any consensus on this? This discrepancy exists as "(network) movies" and "(network) original movies"MrMeAndMrMe_Talk 12:08, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page nominated for Quick Deletion

I greatly appreciate if this page can go to the normal "one week discussion" deletion process, thanks. Talk:Conviction of Chan Nai Ming CountryANDWestern has asked for quick deletion of this article. The reason for asking for deletion is: G5 (Created by a blocked or banned user) More details: Created by sock of User:Yilangderen
Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser#Yilangderen
"Checkuser shows nothing fr33kman 14:53, 13 August 2025 (UTC)". Malairen (talk) 21:19, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per the evidence laid out at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Yilangderen - socking, this is an obvious case. Even your calling it a “normal” deletion process here is the same language you used the other day on Yilangderen. CountryANDWestern (talk) 21:22, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to the Talk page please, it is what the guideline says. "If you think this article should not be deleted, please add { {Wait} } below this message, and then say why on this article's talk page."

My point is that I have to have a discussion for "one week". Malairen (talk) 21:26, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A "1 week dicussion" should happen regardless of the evidence that you gathered. We have work to do, we have lives to live, we can't just sit in front of a computer all-day, and debate with you about the details since you nominated Quick Deletion. Malairen (talk) 21:29, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We have specific criteria that we use to determine if something can be deleted under our quick deletion policy. Being made by someone evading their block, which you are doing, is one of the criteria. We don’t need to have a week long discussion when the article meets our quick deletion policy. CountryANDWestern (talk) 21:34, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Created by a blocked or banned user, who is evading their block or ban when the page was created. The main contributor of that page is the blocked/banned user, and no other user has made significant good-faith edits to the page. "
This is exactly the point, other users should be allowed sufficient time to make good-faith edits to the page. You are a full-time Wikipedian, you have the time to read the details. We don't. Wikipedia:Deletion review is too much hassle. Malairen (talk) 21:47, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AN Meanwhile, you can also continue pushing at the Administrators' noticeboard, if you insist on the "socking" point. I don't mind. However, I am bothered by the fact that I spent time translating it from Chinese to English, and the page is now going to disappear. Thanks brother Malairen (talk) 21:50, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Malairen and CountryANDWestern:: Please note that WP:QD#G5 does not require an article to be deleted, it just allows for it. I tend not to delete them if they are reasonable articles. Because of that, and because it was contested, I have declined the QD on this article. I would have deleted it if I saw another applicable QD option, but I don't. It can go to RFD if desired. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:55, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The “because it was contested” part of your rationale is a little odd. Yes, of course, a user is going to object to their article being deleted. The purpose of G5 is to discourage a user from coming back under different accounts to continue to edit. By not deleting their works, we’re continuing to embolden them to edit which puts further burden on users. CountryANDWestern (talk) 08:16, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While CountryANDWestern makes a good point, G5 was made in Simple English specifically because G5 can be an option to delete an article if you need to delete it. As PureEvil put it when discussing whether to reinstate G5 in 2022, "This is not a case of 'Here is a rule, go follow it'. This is 'wow. I really need to delete this article but how do I defend that action? Ah, G5 works, lets use that reasoning.'" MrMeAndMrMe_Talk 12:10, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths in 2025

I suggest splitting this into specific months, like Deaths in January 2025 so that the page don't become too large. Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 11:32, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Like Deaths in 2024 Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 11:33, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TDKR Chicago 101: What say you? -- Auntof6 (talk) 11:41, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cactus and Auntof6. Sorry I haven't been active on the Deaths page as much as I was back in the day, but I agree. Just like Deaths in 2024 and all previous Deaths in 20xx articles, they should be split up by month like how they do it at English Wikipedia and other wikipedia languages as well. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:32, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TDKR Chicago 101 I did a trial at Deaths in 2025. Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 06:55, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not bad! :) TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:35, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will probably do the rest when I'm free Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 09:16, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with the split. It will make the page easier to read and not too big. Doing by months is better, just like Deaths in 2024 and before. Haseebamir (talk) 13:50, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohsen Gharaei

Mohsen Gharaei (Film director) got created today. I noticed that the image on Commons was already used here at Simple at Mohsen Qaraei. The new one today seems to be the most appropriate spelling of his name, so the best solution is merge the two at Mohsen Gharaei without the modifier of "film director."

However, poking around gives the general sense that we're dealing with a little nest of Iranian promotional accounts. The creator of the "film director" article (User:Bz public) has a lot of drafts and deleted articles at other wikis as well as many deleted images at Commons. The account doesn't appear to be connected to anyone else in the sense of being blocked as a sock anywhere. The creator of the Qaraei article, User:Havimii, is blocked at Commons as a sock of User:Editost. Editost has edited here and had several articles of Iranian actors and directors deleted.

In the end, the subject is probably notable based on awards, but I'd like some other editors' eyes on it and its background to make sure everything is on the up and up. Anyone notice anything else amiss here? CountryANDWestern (talk) 18:19, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Mohsen Gharaei is the better spelling, and the two pages should be merged there. About the background, I also see some possible promotional editing, so it is good to keep an eye on this. The subject seems notable, but we should watch for any more promo accounts. Haseebamir (talk) 13:51, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Farewell and public clarification

Hello everyone,

For those who don’t know me, I’m Sir Banking, a journalist and just one of the many users who, anonymously and selflessly, have contributed to sustaining and growing this wonderful project called Wikipedia, a project that I deeply value and respect. Today, I have decided to step away from editing on Simple English Wikipedia.

I want to make it clear that, while I respect the process, I do not agree with the outcome and believe it does not reflect the quality of my contributions or my intentions as an editor. I have never abused my patroller right or acted in bad faith.

Wikipedia is more than a collection of articles; it is a living testament to what humanity can achieve when knowledge is shared freely, and without boundaries. The belief that together we can create something greater than ourselves.

I sincerely thank everyone who supported me along the way and shared their knowledge and guidance. I leave with a smile, proud of the small part I played in helping make Wikipedia a place where millions of people come to learn every day. I send a special thanks to the administrator (Fr33kman) who gave me the patroller right in the first place, I felt extremely honored.

For now, I will step back, but I leave with respect, gratitude, and admiration for this community.

Good luck,

Sir Banking. Sir Banking (talk) 21:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Review

Hello, could someone please review this article to ensure it meets Simple English Wikipedia guidelines for notability, neutrality, and reliable sourcing? Kindly move to online space with the name "Akin Monehin" if conditions are met. Thank you. Elinamomoh (talk) 16:28, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of good sources, but I'm not convinced Akin Monehin is notable. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:11, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly trying very, very hard to say it's notable - "Mainstream Nigerian outlets (Vanguard, TheCable, BusinessDay, Nigerian Tribune) have provided multiple independent, non-trivial articles profiling or reporting on his professional activities". Really? There's sniff of paid editing around this and the tone is fairly promotional. The language needs to be simplified in both the word choice and phrasing. Ravensfire (talk) 19:32, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am a bit curious on why you wouldn't start this as a draft on en wiki? You are likely to get far more reviewers and better feedback there. Ravensfire (talk) 19:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are many problems with many Nigerian sources not being reliable enough. This article suffers from these problems. If it were moved to article space it would very likely be deleted. I don't think it can be saved. fr33k man 19:53, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When you say there are many problems with Nigerian sources, could you please clarify that? Are the sources covering the award also considered unreliable? Wikipedia encourages inclusivity and neutrality, so if sources from Nigeria are not "reliable enough" or acceptable, let it be clearly stated to avoid confusion?

To me some comments have acknowledged the sources, which meet the fundamental WP:GNG standard. The award is also notable, fulfilling the requirements for entrepreneurs under WP:BIO and Corporate people. If the primary concern is promotional tone, I have revised the article to ensure neutrality. Kindly review the updated version and share your thoughts. Elinamomoh (talk) 15:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read en:Wikipedia:NEWSORGNIGERIA which we use as a guideline for more information on using Nigerian sources. The problem stems from problems with independent sources and people paying for articles to be written about subjects rather than being truly independent fr33k man 18:52, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Images

I just wanna know, how to add Commons images onto articles? Everything I find on pages just doesn't work Brickguy276 (talk) 08:38, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Brickguy276: for example, if File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-bn.svg is the file and you want to add it to an article, as a thumbnail: [[File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-bn.svg|thumb|Wikipedia-logo-v2-bn]], and as an image: [[File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-bn.svg|Wikipedia-logo-v2-bn]]. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 08:52, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guess what, I tried that. Litterally just put it as the text. Brickguy276 (talk) 10:13, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Brickguy276, I looked at the diff and see it's because there were "nowiki" tags around the image. If you remove those from the image, it will display the image instead of the text. Ternera (talk) 15:46, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah well I was using visual edit, I might try source editing for that. Brickguy276 (talk) 16:48, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 NFL season

Can you please fix the AFC And NFC Standings I made the other day please. 98.186.55.18 (talk) 17:03, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit it yourself, or just revert your edit if you know you messed it up. Brickguy276 (talk) 20:37, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft submitting

Hello, how do I submit the draft I made? I cannot find the place to submit them. Brickguy276 (talk) 17:08, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just ask here what you want reviewed. We don't have a draft namespace or special review process. -Barras talk 18:32, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank you, will do in an hour or 2. Brickguy276 (talk) 18:41, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Brickguy276/Piastów

Hello, I'd like to submit this draft article. It is short but it's enough from what I've seen. Brickguy276 (talk) 19:56, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Brickguy276 Cleaned and moved to Piastów. Just a note, you can create articles directly as we do not have a draft reviewing process here. Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 08:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2022 British grand prix is likely AI-generated

The 2022 British grand prix article is in the "needs style editing" category, but I think the problems go much deeper than that - it is almost entirely unsourced, and the edit summary on the initial edit looks suspiciously like the output from an LLM. I'm not familiar with the processes on this Wikipedia, but it feels like it might be better to entirely delete it and start again. Statisticalphil (talk) 07:51, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is extremely obviously AI and if it isn't somehow, it's still unsuitable for Wikipedia. Nominate it for deletion. Brickguy276 (talk) 10:07, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have tagged it for deletion under our quick deletion policy regarding AI-generated content. CountryANDWestern (talk) 10:25, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very good, hope everything goes through and the article gets deleted. Brickguy276 (talk) 10:36, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BotBahati

hi everyone, I want to tell you that I finished the test phase of my bot on, now can I put him into practice to show its usefulness. you can see these tasks on his USERPAGE and all his tests here ! Bahati11 (talk) 08:17, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You need to request bot status at Wikipedia talk:Bots. I have requested a block on this bot as an unauthorized bot running. CountryANDWestern (talk) 10:23, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bahati11 I told you not to let the bot edit without getting approval first, please listen. Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 12:49, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was just tests on my personal pages Bahati11 (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix this page

Steatopygia (note: has a photo of a naked person). It has many many paragraphs of complex text that seem to be copied from somewhere, and an inappropriate image caption. 216.243.12.204 (talk) 02:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted back to before the complex text was added. The photo is appropriate for the subject, so that remains. (It was there before the complex text was added.) See en:WP:CENSOR if you have further concerns about the photo. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:41, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have concerns about the photo. I agree that it should be on the page. 216.243.12.204 (talk) 16:57, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yea they just said that so people who do not want a naked person on their screen don't see it fr twin 🙏 Reatom2LostEmail (talk) 16:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing. I also agree that the photo is OK and belongs in the article. Haseebamir (talk) 13:51, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good articles landing page

Now that there are over 100 good articles, I think it would be a good idea to have a page grouping all of them by topic. Maybe with one box for each subject. I think that would draw interest and make it easier to find them. Better than Wikipedia:Good articles which only lists ten, and Wikipedia:Good articles/by date which lists them by date rather than topic. 23.24.240.109 (talk) 17:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How simple?

Hello. Im new to here and i'm not american or english (dutch if you're asking), and i got a question. How simple does i need to write? Wezoom (talk) 11:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Wezoom, I would suggest reading other articles on the wiki to see how they are written. It should give you an idea of how to write. Ternera (talk) 13:08, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wezoom Hi, I suggest reading Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages if you are planning to write pages Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 04:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also note the simplicity is about the language and not the subject. If you need a specialized word to describe a concept it is perfectly fine to use that word, and to add a link (on this Wikipedia, not to the English one) where the concept can be described, if it is not already. Eptalon (talk) 06:35, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Both thanks for the information. Wezoom (talk) 11:41, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is the writing level about the same as vikidia? Wezoom (talk) 11:53, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wezoom From what I understand about Vikidia, it is quite similar except we are more formal and bigger. Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 12:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

another thing: we do not target children as audience in particular, and like the other Wikipedias, we are not censored. Eptalon (talk) 17:18, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

we also dont use portals Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 22:27, 1 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Just in case, do we submit articles for deletion here or on the talk page of WP:AFD? Just in case. Brickguy276 (talk) 13:49, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Brickguy276: Hello, Brickguy276, and welcome to Simple English Wikipedia. The process used here that is like English Wikipedia's AFD is called RfD -- requests for deletion. We use that for all types of pages -- articles, categories, templates, etc. There are instructions on the page I linked for making such a request. If you use Twinkle to make the request, the process is more automated. We also have the quick deletion process, which is the equivalent of English Wikipedia's speedy deletion. Feel free to let us know if you have any questions about these.

If you are interested in other things that are different between this wiki and the regular English Wikipedia, you might like to look at this list I maintain of differences. The list itself is not a policy or guideline, but it links to some relevant policies and guidelines. If you have any questions about it, feel free to let me know. -- Auntof6 (talk) 18:31, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a redirect I see as pointless, and I simply want to know what to do in a short answer. Brickguy276 (talk) 18:36, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer: Nominate it for deletion, unless it is vandalism or nonsensical, use {{rfd}} template and transclude it here Cactus🌵 ^hi ^ツ 11:08, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Using RFD is nominating for deletion. -- Auntof6 (talk) 18:05, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon

Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation Product Safety and Integrity team. We would like to announce that we plan to enable temporary accounts for this wiki in the week of September 8.

Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate.

Why we are building temporary accounts

Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect.

Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.

How temporary accounts work

Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: ~2025-12345-67 (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.

What does this mean for different groups of users?

For logged-out editors

This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who meet the relevant requirements will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.

For community members interacting with logged-out editors

A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.

For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki

For patrollers who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who meet the requirements will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range (Special:IPContributions). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the IP Info feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
For admins blocking logged-out editors:
- It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock option.
- It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.

Our requests for you, and next steps

If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on testwiki or test2wiki. If you are a volunteer developer, read our documentation for developers, and in particular, the section on how your code might need to be updated.
If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
Look at our previous message about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.

To learn more about the project, check out our FAQ – you will find many useful answers there. You may also look at the updates (we have just posted one) and subscribe to our new newsletter. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you! NKohli (WMF), SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 21:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i don't like it ː( Reatom2LostEmail (talk) 16:28, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do. If I'm logged out and don't want people to know my geographic location, it looks like I can use one of these temporary accounts. Plenty of Wikipedians are nice, but there are some creeps too. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:41, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reatom2LostEmail I'm sorry to hear that. What do you not like about it? Does it disrupt your patrolling activities? Would like to help in any way we can. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 10:38, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, it'll be interesting to see how it operates fr33k man 17:37, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Underpopulated categories

I added a lot of categories to Category:Underpopulated categories that contained only one item. Can someone check them and possibly delete them? 70.89.176.181 (talk) 22:45, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If they‘ve existed for a while or have a category as a child, or would seem like a category that is likely to be used in the future, I would recommend populating the categories instead of deleting them. MrMeAndMrMe_Talk 23:39, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First, they were created in the last few days. Second, they are part of a greatly excessive category tree containing only one page at each level and which are overly technical in language in content. You don't need categories for "Academic discipline interactions", "Interdisciplinary subfields", "Interdisciplinary subfields of sociology", "Olympic organizations", "Sociology of culture", and "National Olympic Committees" simply to categorize the page National Olympic Committee. 70.89.176.181 (talk) 00:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

QDed most of these categories, filled a couple. MrMeAndMrMe_Talk 01:53, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse filter for recent Coinbase spam

I suggest banning the word "coinbase" (using irlike) from new page creations by non-(auto)confirmed users. Justarandomamerican (t • c) 18:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Justarandomamerican I could write one but it's been a while since I'm actively patrolling the RC, could you give some examples for me to look at? — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 11:16, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Things like Will Coinbase refund money if I get scammed, How do I get my money back from Coinbase Wallet, and Can you get your money back if your Coinbase is hacked. We’ve had an increase in the last week of these kind of scam articles that provide a scam number to call so they get captured on Google crawls. Airline ones too. CountryANDWestern (talk) 11:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CountryANDWestern Updated an existing filter for this. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 11:31, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary account IP viewer

Since this coming week temporary user accounts will become live, and since the user right already exists for admins to assign I think it's a good idea to discuss a couple of things. Firstly, requests for the user right will have to go through the RFP process like other rights; and secondly it's important to know about restrictions regarding its use. The Ombudsman Commission and the checkuser have been discussing this and just like the use of checkuser identifying the IP with either a normal user account or a temporary account is forbidden as is identifying the temp account with a normal account. Even in cases where the temporary user says "I am so-and-so" you can't confirm it. Any questions people have can be asked here. It is unlikely that the user right will be handed out as readily as say rollback. Regards, fr33k man 23:44, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please also read and comment on Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer which will become the official policy of the right. This is based on communication from the Ombudsman Commission and the checkusers via the checkuser-l email list. Can people also comment on the process to assign this right located at Wikipedia talk:Requests for permissions fr33k man 00:19, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for feedback on an article

I am working on this article Great Mandala of Nichiren and am looking for advice on simplifying it. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 07:21, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle I do not understand what this is about. What do you mean by an "icon"? Is this a work of calligraphy or something? It says Nichiren "wrote 740 gohonzon". Are these copies of the same text? If not why does the article discuss other gohonzon written by Nichiren? ~2025-57251-6 (talk) 05:08, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response. I really messed up with that one and moved it back to userspace to work on it a bit more Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 06:11, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-57251-6 it is a calligraphic work that Nichiren made many copies of, and many Nichiren Buddhists make copies of today. Large ones are often found in Nichiren temples, and many followers of the new religious movement Soka Gakkai carry small copies of it with them wherever they go. I think other Nichiren Buddhists do so too but it is most associated with Soka Gakkai.

I definitely needed to go back to the drawing board with it since I found it was too complex and inconsistent with naming, because people are inconsistent with naming it in general. Sorry about moving it to mainspace at all. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 06:31, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle I do think it's clearer now. Are all the words written on the painting, except the phrase in the center, just the names of the people you listed? And perhaps you could briefly explain the significance/meaning of "Namu Myōhō Renge Kyō" rather than just linking to the article. ~2025-57251-6 (talk) 06:37, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah all the words on the painting are just the people listed.

Namu Myoho Renge Kyo means "I take retreat in the Lotus Sutra" and it is the main mantra of the sect Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 11:29, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expert needed!

Hello wikipedians! I was wondering if I can cite books (physical and not online) if there only accessible on a U.S military base with a Department of Defence (or department of war???) ID, as long as there not classified as I have access to the military library on multiple bases and other things because i'm a military dependent and would like to use that to help the community expand further. Tokeamour (talk) 21:15, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's also Military Reading (PME) which is required and recommended reading materials for Professional Military Education that are well yeah... inaccessible? But probably on ebay?^(Humour)

Also thanks for the admins bringing guidance as well to this question in an early conversation and bringing me here. Tokeamour (talk) 21:18, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As long as they exist, are not classified and at least someone technically has access to them then they'd probably be considered to be good faith sources. We can't make it so all sources must be accessible via the Web. fr33k man 21:23, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, you can use offline sources, even ones difficult to access. You can use templates like {{cite book}} or {{cite news}} to help you out (when editing, there's a "Templates" menu to use these templates more easily), or you can just use a regular reference: <ref>Source details.</ref>. Feel free to ask any other questions, and thank you for your contributions :). Sophocrat (talk) 21:22, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Educational accreditation

Can someone please start the article Educational accreditation (or Higher education accreditation, whichever is easier) in Simple English? I just created an article and I'm having difficulty thinking of a way to rephrase that term. ~2025-57251-6 (talk) 06:14, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article I created was Utah Valley University. ~2025-57251-6 (talk) 06:17, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very good article

Looking for more feedback on this VGA proposal. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 08:52, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just promoted the artcicle, congratulations to all those who contributed; we might need to edit the subpages, like create the short summay that can appear on the main page, and such. Eptalon (talk) 20:35, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of high schools?

Hello, I recently saw that a number of articles were created about high schools. I am not a native English speaker, but a high school, at least in the US, is the school which should prepare pupils to be able to enter a university, or other specialized training. The pupils of high schools likely are teenagers. Out of this fact, high schols are common, every city likely has one. From this I also deduce, that in all likelihood, they aren't notable (in comparison to universities). So, what do other people think? Eptalon (talk) 21:06, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In Poland, the situation is somewhat similar - almost every city has one or more secondary (middle) schools (which I think are equivalent to high schools in the US), but secondary schools often have a bit more cultural and historical significance. Of course, this probably also depends on the country and its educational system. On plwiki, for example, we apply certain criteria - a school is generally considered notable if it is more than 50 years old and has at least two notable alumni. I would therefore be in favour of creating precise criteria for the notability of schools on simplewiki. BZPN (talk) 21:15, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A guideline would be a good idea. I don't say that there aren't any that are notable, but that by default, they arent. In Switzerland, there werse sevral religious orders who became knownn for founding schools (most notably, the Jesuits, SJ) Eptalon (talk) 23:09, 13 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSCHOOL redirects to enwiki. Most schools are simply not notable per WP:GNG and have no significant coverage. I guess middle schools/secondary schools/primary schools can be either simply deleted or should go through RFD. -Barras talk 18:02, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalized articles removal

Yaduvanshi (surname) This page was named as Yaduvanshi ( Surname ) which was presently used by Yadav or Ahir Community in India , and According to my knowledge there is No One whose surname was Yaduvanshi and belongs to Jadaun Rajput and all So why this POV article exist, this was totally vandalized and should be deleted and there is not only one their are many articles like this exist which should be removed or be improved with a neutral point of view. Coelentrata (talk) 04:48, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Introducing Paste Check: a new Edit Check for Wikipedia

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Why is English the only Wikipedia that has a simple edition?

Why don't other languages have this? For example, Chinese and Spanish are in very high demand, yet they don't have a Simple version like English does. Please ping me when you respond. Interstellarity (talk) 00:27, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Interstellarity: I would presume they don't simply due to there not being enough interest for such projects. The English Wikipedia is by far the largest Wikipedia with 7 million articles, and the Simple English Wikipedia has less than 20 times that (300,000). A Simple Spanish Wikipedia would almost certainly be much smaller than this one. That said, anyone is free to try leading such a proposal (but I doubt it will happen soon). Sophocrat (talk) 00:34, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We are essentially grandfathered in. To make a new wiki there has to exist an official ISO language code and no such code exists for simple versions of languages (this includes simple English). But since we've existed since before this rule we get to continue to exist. French has tried to start a simple version but it's just not allowed. Every few years someone starts a discussion on meta to get us shut down but it never goes anywhere. fr33k man 00:50, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, didn't know that. Thanks! For Interstellarity's reference, here's the Language proposal policy on Meta. Sophocrat (talk) 01:27, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I know that there were at least ideas to create one for Simple French, and Simple German. The problem there however was, that there were no real language communities you could point to (Yes, there likely are versions of French and German, that are used as pidgins, in Africa, and perhaps Oceania / Asia, but as with most pidgins, coming up with a formal laguage description is difficult). And the requirement for an ISO code (or possibly a Glottolog entry) pretty much killed these projects. Also, in many cases, these efforts are linked to colonialism, and it may be difficult to find people today who openly support these languages today. I can imagine that the situation for Spanish and Portuguese is likely similar. Eptalon (talk) 07:37, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think there will be another simple language that could complement Simple English? If so, which language would likely become the strongest candidate for inclusion? Interstellarity (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With the current rules it will be difficult. Eptalon (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, currently it's impossible but if it were possible it'd probably be French fr33k man 22:48, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the other answers mentioned above, English is a rare example of a language that has many, many more speakers/readers with poor or intermediate skills than proficient speakers. So there is more of a need globally for the millions of human beings who have some shaky English. Additionally, as others have said, were this proposed today, there is no way it would be a separate project and certainly not simple.wikt. If you're motivated to have some of the more developed projects like de.wp or fr.wp have simple editions of articles, I'd recommend having a WikiProject on those sites, so that there could be things like "Article" and "Article/Simple". I think that would actually be a quite useful feature and there have been some similar articles on en.wp for physics topics, but I think that they were deleted. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:14, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I spoke to Jimbo years ago about articles becoming more complex over time and he suggested that the introduction (which should sum up the main body) could be made simple on all articles. This was my main inspiration for WP:SI. The other language wikis could do something similar. fr33k man 22:51, 8 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the distribution of languages in the world, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, perhaps German are candidates. These had large empires at a time in the past. Do you think there are enough people who want to start a new simple language project? Eptalon (talk) 06:04, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the Language Policy states that the language must have an official ISO language code, highly unlikely such a proposal would even be accepted. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 09:51, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just going to note that Simple French was deemed eligible... seven years ago. I don't think it has a Wikimedia Incubator page. It might be stalled indefinitely. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 10:53, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly (which there is a decent chance that I'm not) a langcom affiliate (or a langcom member themself) stated on an official frwiki post that the Simple French wiki would be incubated on frwiki itself instead of going into incubator and going through that process.- FusionSub (Talk page) (Contributions) 16:19, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It should just be part of fr.wp and give access to the knowledge in the proper French Wikipedia to those who have intermediate French skills. French is another language that has many speakers with varying levels of proficiency and literacy and who also may not have access to knowledge in their mother tongue, particularly those in Francafrique. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:24, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SEWP has often had to fight a little bit for its existence in the first place, with somewhere around five requests for closure of SEWP in the last 15 years, though recently these requests have become more overwhelmingly one-sidedly against closure. Given that SEWP was created before the current ISO requirements, and its longevity (9 days until the 24th anniversary), it is a unicorn as far as wikipedia projects go. And while there may be support for new projects, putting anything into practice will be difficult, even if it is hosted on the French Wikipedia. The biggest hurdle is finding an active community willing to build a new project. They would not have the benefit of having 10+ years to build a community while having little scrutiny from Wikimedia, nor would they have the benefit of a reduced amount of vandalism. MrMeAndMrMe_Talk 01:46, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, we were lucky with our timing. I personally support simple language versions as they would be very helpful. fr33k man 01:53, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No easier way to draw a former editor of the Simple English Wikipedia out of retirement than to try to close down it's home project. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 23:16, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are people watching Talk:Main Page?

I'm hoping people do follow that page because important comments are occasionally left there. Currently there's a message about an error in T:DYK. canadachick (talk) 02:20, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think many people look at that page. I, personally, look there if I see it in RC. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 08:25, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Football kit images

Hi. Please double check any changes made by IPs to football kit colours. I've reverted vandalism at Liverpool, Inter Milan, Cadiz and France today. I see someone else had to revert ManU a few days ago. Thanks. Jack (talk) 15:42, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Red Hot Chili Peppers demotion

I have proposed Red Hot Chili Peppers for demotion from Very Good Article (VGA) to Good Article (GA). Your input is requested at Wikipedia:Proposed article demotion#Red Hot Chili Peppers. canadachick (talk) 02:35, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The instructions say to inform users who helped promote it to VGA, but none of them seem to be active anymore except Fr33kman. canadachick (talk) 02:38, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can only do what you can do. People come, people go, sometimes they come back. You've done all you can do :) fr33k man 00:39, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification of the sock puppetry policy regarding temporary accounts

I would like clarification regarding the sock puppetry policy here when using temporary accounts. Is it perfectly legal to make new temporary accounts for different edits, assuming one isn't violating other rules such as Edit warring, POV-pushing, disruptive editing, harassment, "Good hand, bad hand" accounts, etc.? If this is legal, I think that should be stated in the policy that "using multiple temporary accounts without violating other rules is not considered sock puppetry". That way it couldn't be applied to anonymous users to apply pressure on them. ~2025-26680-95 (talk) 18:35, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst I guess we could add something specific regarding temporary accounts, in my eyes it is no different from logging out of a main account. There are perfectly legitimate reasons (as outlined) for using more than one account, including those that you don't disclose (fresh start, etc.)

Temporary accounts work just like IPs, so changing the account name could be considered fine as if you were just changing IPs. I'm not sure we need to explicitly state this though, I don't think we should be encouraging this use. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:35, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. Also temporary accounts lasts for 90 days only, after that the account will change or assign to new one. And checking other accounts of an temp account, who is not disrupting Wikipedia, is not permissible, as this are logged and probably it can be checked by administrators. So explicitly stating is redundant. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 08:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"I don't think we should be encouraging this use" - It's either permitted or not permitted. I'm assuming that it would not be allowed if a person created a (normal, registered) account, made three edits, created a new account, made one edit, and so on. Or maybe it would be allowed. If temporary accounts are different in this way, it needs to be stated somewhere in a policy or guideline. Otherwise it's open to arbitrary enforcement. What if an administrator disagrees with you? What's going to stop them from blocking the accounts/IP's anyway? ~2025-26883-73 (talk) 13:41, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry is defined as using multiple accounts to circumvent the rules. If a person wants to make different accounts (perm or temp) to keep track of various edits they've made then that's up to them I think it sounds like a lot of work but it is permitted. fr33k man 00:45, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a biography of a living person

I am writing a biography of a living person User:Immanuelle/Frank Amodeo and I want to make sure that this fulfills the requirements of biographies of living people. Can anyone look over it to make sure that it satisfies the requirements? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:22, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've cited what needs to be cited. BLP is about avoiding libel so if someone did something that reflects poorly on them as a person then as long as it's cited in reliable sources then it's fine to include it in the article. fr33k man 00:51, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Then I will focus on simplification. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 01:48, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help close out Phase IV of Total Backlog Annihilation

Phase IV of the Total Backlog Annihilation has focused on clearing out Category:Pages with broken reference names. The project is housed at User:Ferien/WikiProject TBA/Phase IV. It started at 847 in July and is now down to 20 articles! The last few could use some brain power as many of them aren't simply just finding it in the article history or the current (or even past) version of the English Wikipedia article. I've laid out some of the concerns for some of the remaining ones at the project page. Thanks for any help you can provide! CountryANDWestern (talk) 01:51, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All done, I did the mosque one (took an hour to get all of the sources) Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 13:31, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! Thanks to everyone who helped finish this in the last dozen or so hours! CountryANDWestern (talk) 13:55, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the Mamie Eisenhower one. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:01, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to work now on Category:Articles with broken file links which was Phase II of the project. It's back up over 100 entries after getting down to 5 in May 2024. If anyone who is Wikidata inclined is looking for a task, the Special:UnconnectedPages] category, which was the original backlog annihilated, is up to 183 entries. Some of these are ones that can be handled here on Simple, but others may require some Wikidata work. CountryANDWestern (talk) 14:30, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What are we up for next with the total backog annihilation Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:01, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on Category:Interlanguage link template existing link and User:Cewbot/Interlanguage link templates need to fix but I am not sure if this is a thing I can just do as a part of the program Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:35, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are no currently open phases, but you can continue to work on it. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Igor Stravinsky

I want to attest that Igor Stravinsky lived in Paudex Switzerland in the year 1944 where with my family we also loved in Paudex. ~2025-27131-14 (talk) 16:06, 2 October 2025 (UTC) My parents, Gualtiero and Juliette Croccolo visited the composer Igor Stravinsky in hi home situated in Paudex Switzwrland in the year 1944. ~2025-27131-14 (talk) 16:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-27131-14 Hello and welcome to the Simple English Wikipedia. We cannot use your testimony as a source to uphold the statement that Stravinsky lived in Paudex. You will need to show this from reliable sources, as Wikipedia is about verifiability. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:30, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mathematics

The article mathematics is too complicated I think. ~2025-27494-08 (talk) 18:48, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have undone the recent edit that added the complex words and notified the editor who added it. Ternera (talk) 19:00, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a template issue

On the page Great Mandala of Nichiren the Template:Nihongo seems to be broken. I’m not sure what is happening there, but can someone take a look at it? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 15:10, 3 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any issues with it? Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 02:56, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I somehow managed to make it disappear but I do not know how. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is it was some kind of cacheing issue on my end and not a problem with the page Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:47, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:48, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Help with an article I translated

I recently translated an article, Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour, from English to Simple English, but something went wrong, and I don't know what (you will know what I talk about when you open the article). I tried fixing it but it didn't work. Can someone help me or fix it? I'm not sure what to do here.

Any help is appreciated. Have a great day! Zabro29 (talk) 02:44, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, you had to add the {{notelist}} template Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 02:54, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:OL

It is my view at this time that, mostly, en:MOS:OL shouldn't apply on this wiki. For readers using simple, links for things like London or England could be useful. For example (to use a language I speak), in Spanish "London" is "Londres" and "England" is "Inglaterra". Does the community agree with me, because I don't recall any consensus on the subject. --IWI (talk) 02:48, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With that being said, I also think for some examples, OL would apply. There is no need to link "kilometre" for example. --IWI (talk) 02:49, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kilometre likely is a bad example, as it is a common unit of measurement (even though the SI unit is the metre/meter). While SI units generally have a base 10, this is not true for imperial units (1 gallon = 4 quarts =8 pints, which happens to be around 4.5 litres). So depending on the context, linking a unit of measurement might make sense. Eptalon (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree so long as it's not taking the mick by linking every single little random thing - although I'd hope that is obvious! --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 20:34, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I remember another discussion about this, where I made the same point you do, that people whose first language is not English might not recognize the English words for things. The example I used at the time was Florence/Firenze. So, yes, I think we should link important terms. Keeping in mind that we (at least theoretically) have a multi-lingual user community, we need to link more than they would on enwiki, but not necessarily every single word. -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:57, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. I will take everyone's advice on board for my edits. Thanks, --IWI (talk) 10:45, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does simple english wikipedia have categories for discussion?

I want to propose Category:Movies based on short movies for discussion to be moved to Category:Long movies based on short movies. Is there some kind of procedure for renaming categories like this aside from manually moving the category and changing it on every page? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:17, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure we need to shorten the scope of this category. Is this to distinguish between another category about short films based on other short films? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:36, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle: You just described the procedure. Category moves don't move the content. You have to move the category, then move the contents. Cat-a-lot can make the content moves much easier. We might also have a bot that would eventually move the content. -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:03, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is the bot a known thing? enwiki has it but not sure about here Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 09:28, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle It is Special:Contribs/RussBot; it runs twice per month. ~2025-27225-16 (talk) 15:34, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-27225-16 I would like to have it move Category:Bekkaku kanpeisha to Category:Bekkaku Kanpeisha do you know how I would do that? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:53, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle I can do that for you if you want. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:56, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Plutus thank you! I would love that! Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:58, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Plutus Great. That was quick.

Can you do it for Category:Kanpei-chūsha to Category:Kanpei Chūsha

Category:Kanpei-shōsha to Category:Kanpei Shōsha

Category:Kanpei-taisha to Category:Kanpei Taisha

All of these are also part of an inconsistent formatting of the shrine names in a system. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:03, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle All done Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 04:05, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:06, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Remember, be very careful when using cat-a-lot Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 04:13, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion on Luis Suárez Miramontes?

For the past month, I've been working on trying to improve the article Luis Suárez Miramontes to get it to GA or even potentially VGA level. I'm still in the process of creating articles for it, but I was wondering if any of you guys could have a look at it, just to get a second opinion on if I can make it simpler in some places? ShadowBallX (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You need to link or change complex words like considered, established, tournament and also link the word manager as it doesn't explain what the term means. Basically go through it again and any word not in the combined word list either link it to wikt or explain it in line. Other than that the sentences are not too long and the article flows well. There are also too many redlinks fr33k man 03:03, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions. I already know about the redlink issue (as I mentioned, I'm still in the process of creating articles for it), but the rest of the advice is appreciated. ShadowBallX (talk) 03:45, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And please use Wiktionary links as an absolute last choice, if at all. If an article is ever created for the term, we might want to find all uses of it and it's harder to find them if they're linked any way but local. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:38, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nobel prize week

Hello, during the coming week, the winners of the Nobel prizes in different disciplines will be announced. Likely we won't have articles on the people receiving them. So if anyone feels like it: this is likely something making a person notable.... Eptalon (talk) 09:58, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not only likely making them notable, but definitely! -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:39, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who/what awards have already been announced? Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 00:40, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, the only one awarded so far is the one for Physiology or Medicine. ShadowBallX (talk) 03:22, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A non-important detail (about A.I. generated articles)

A.I. generated articles seems to have happened (here) as early as year 2024 (in February that year).--All that stuff has now largely come 'under control', in my opinion.

"Source", simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Tesh&oldid=9344710
.--The first version of that article, seems to also have the problem (so therefore i will pass on salvaging it). ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update: there is now 'another first-version' of the article (started today in October 2025).--Thanks to user:Ferien. ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 22:17, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

any advice

ima new wiki editer and i've only been doing minor things like spell checks and adding links.

are there any articles that need major help? Xlowntheclown (talk) 16:35, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking. You can poke around in Category:Wikipedia cleanup categories and its subcategories and maybe find things where you think you can help. E.g. if you think it may be fun to research and find a source for a claim, you could look in Category:Clean-up categories from March 2014 and find articles that lack sources (some of these problems go back to 2007!!!) or if you know about scripting, you could try to debug Category:Pages with script errors. Spell checks and adding links is also super-valuable. Thanks for all you do. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:25, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Xlowntheclown you accidentally posted in the wrong section. On the talk page for simple talk rather than in simple talk. I moved it here to the proper location. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 02:56, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Language availability

I was thinking if a boy wishes to read articles for learning but gets disappointed after seeing his topic unavailable in language option bar while trying to search it in his mother tounge. He has already spent significant hours in articles and discovered some interesting topics to learn and thought to read them throughly in his languages. Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 03:34, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sandeep Manikpuri: What is your point here? -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:17, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reading Wikipedia articles in simple English. Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 04:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking of school boy who tries to search any material in local language. So as I know not everyone can write or speak English, then what next for them ? . Here a boy as an example. Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 04:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You need to make the page in the language so he can read it Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:13, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete the user page of mine ? I never did it before. Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 04:45, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

simply blank it, and an admin will delete it eventually Eptalon (talk) 05:44, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. | Start and improve on way | Do not rely on improvement and lose the opportunity to start | # My advice to any new villager learner if asked about language "protocol "of lWikipedia if any. Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 05:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You were there from where I came rn Sandeep Manikpuri (talk) 22:02, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator note: Dummy edit to keep this section from being archived right after being moved here from the talk page. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:53, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Chukwueze

I just want to point out an error on your info details for the Nigerian AC Milan Player, Samuel Chukwueze. He was born in 𝗨𝗺𝘂𝗮𝗵𝗶𝗮. Just need to correct the spelling as it is wrongly spelt on your page. 194.185.82.146 (talk) 16:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you just correct it yourself by editing the page? Brick No.2 (talk) 06:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So what error what you get? Miguel Inigo Mercadal (talk) 21:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Samuel Chukwueze. The article doesn't exist here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:18, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

idk what the person was talking about but seems like a pretty easy article for someone to make who wants a random task Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:36, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay put it here Wikipedia:Requested_pages Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 05:35, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting to know about this. So can I just dump a bunch of links there? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 18:45, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle: Well, you can, but:

Things don't necessarily get created just because they're listed there.
The more things listed there, the less likely anything is to get created. That page just doesn't get much attention.

How many pages do you have in mind? Also, keep in mind that there is Special:WantedPages for things that are linked to but don't exist. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:47, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I made a list here User:Immanuelle/links from pages I made, so pretty long. Probably better just for my own use if that page is not commonly used. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 00:57, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What is the rule about users removing QD templates?

I am getting this on this page Gold's Smile Playhouze with TeenNick and I do not know what the proper response is. Are we supposed to do an RFD on the page instead? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:11, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

QD templates can be removed if the issue is taken care of. In this case, I don't think it hurts to have a discussion since you said you aren't entirely sure it's a hoax.

I see that the RfD has been removed more than once now. I reverted the most recent removal and warned the user. If they continue removing it, keep warning them until they reach a final warning, and after that we can block them. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle: Sorry, forgot to ping you. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fernsehserien

I've noticed that we have a lot of links to Fernsehserien.tv, 55 to be precise. I note that this site is not used at all on the English Wikipedia, and only used once on the German Wikipedia. Is this an appropriate website to be using? It's essentially looking like it's used like IMDb would be used. CountryANDWestern (talk) 12:47, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feel quite meh about this source. Their main page says Sie haben Verbesserungsvorschläge oder Fehler gefunden. Senden Sie uns ebenfalls gerne eine Email. (You have found ways for improvement or errors, send us an email.) so it is user-editable with approval (and email is a bit more of a hoop to jump through) but it doesn't seem to be spam. I would personally use it in the same way as I would IMDb, ideally use another source but use with caution for basic facts. --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 22:05, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know this site, and 'Fernsehserien' literally translates as 'tv serials'. So I think it would likely be good to not see them as reliable source. Eptalon (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

is it appropriate to use external link to normal English wikipedia

ive found that some articles don't exist on the simple English Wikipedia. can I use the external link tool to link to normal English Wikipedia? Xlowntheclown (talk) 16:49, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I think we need red link, so that anyone can find it useful to create that. And for me, interwiki link to another Wikipedia, is like this article shouldn't be created. 🪶-TΛNBIRUZZΛMΛN (💬) 16:57, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ok ty very much

I'll make sure to link to other sources if needed Xlowntheclown (talk) 13:32, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Xlowntheclown no, it is against the rules here. redlinks like redlink or if you really want to emphasize that it exists on enwiki redlink [en] Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 18:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Discord and arbitration

Hey all. I know Discord is pretty popular here with SEWP contributors, so I want to give you a heads up. If you actually read the new Terms of Service that they started requiring today, there's an opt out clause. You send them an email at arbitration-opt-out@discord.com and tell them "I opt out of the binding arbitration clause." There is a time limit on this. Thirty days from today.

That means that if there is a problem between you and Discord later, they can't say "Ha ha ha, you HAVE to go to binding arbitration and you are NOT allowed to do a regular lawsuit in public court because you agreed to it."

Nobody needs that drama. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:27, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a thing from 2024, isn't it? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:42, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well I sent the message anyways so hopefully it still works Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 00:27, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Removing untrue thing (falsehood)

There is an article, this one, where one (or more) users, insist on writing at least one untrue thing.--The user that created the article, seems to be young. Be that as it may, a tag is being removed (without that being a good edit).

1) Does anyone have authority to give me three reverts, from now (so that i again can try to fix the article, while 'totally steering clear' of the finer points of the '3 times revert rule')? (Note: that i have made previous edits to the article, is my claim.)

2) An alternative is that "i ask that the article should go to RFD, for having one untrue thing - and not about a small detail".--Note: I have already been on the article's talk page, re: some relevant stuff.

If the above is 'reasonably helpful', then fine.
If the above is not a simple request, then never mind.--Then i can have this article, as the first entry on a not-yet created "popcorn list". (As in, warning about a (smallish) train wreck, and no else else making any significant move to fix, and then i open a bag of popcorn, and looking at 'human nature, taking its course': a smallish train-wreck of an article, maintained-or-further evolving.) ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 13:59, 10 October 2025 (UTC) /~2025-28382-09 (talk) 14:25, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't explained on the talk page of the article what the problem is with the changes. You just escalated for calling for a topic ban. A topic ban for what? For what specific reason? CountryANDWestern (talk) 14:35, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will be needing "3 reverts from now", to make significant fixes to the article.--I am fine with possibly doing some education, thru edit comments.--If you or some other user, is the first user to say, "Go ahead with (up to) 3 reverts from now, and make things good", and then we will quite possibly 'get somewhere'.--If you know of some other way to get the article fixed (that does not involve me), then feel free to pursue that avenue/venue.--Escalation? 'Clueless edits et cetera', are escalations one might say; Have the article fixed first, and then one can see if feathers should be 'un-ruffled', et cetera.--Have a nice day. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 16:26, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

As you probably know, anyone can send an article to RFD. The community will then discuss and when the time is up, an admin will take the decision on what to do. Note also, that at least in theory the article above looks like it might be notable. RFD is not for cleanup. As to different people editing an article, it is normal that some things get changed. When several editors edit at the same time,they should coordinate their efforts, if possible. Also, with very few exceptions anyone can edit any article. Eptalon (talk) 16:52, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When things get too messy, then "Nuke" is a solution that sometimes gets chosen.--Anyway, i am advising that someone (but not me) says, "Go ahead with (up to) 3 reverts from now, and make things good".--Re: co-ordinating efforts: one will likely have to do some extraordinary spoonfeeding,in regard to necessary edits.--If that seems simple enough, then fine. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 17:44, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, no one knows what you're talking about, and no one is going to take you up on your advise. If you want things done, go do them, but stop with this "someone else should..." If you want to try to help, go help. But stop telling others how things should run. CountryANDWestern (talk) 17:57, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Two edits done, as of
simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hung_Cao&diff=10563018&oldid=10562395
. Obvious nonsense, removed (again), and my two edit comments are helpful and okay.--How things should run? Kicking junk (swiftly) out of articles, is often a good start.--Have a nice day. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The luck of the draw (or are more of the articles 'seriously challenged')

One (new) user,
simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2025-27102-45
,has created c. six articles today.--One i have taken for QD (promo).--Another article seems to say, that "About 40% of Western Australia's wheat is grown 'near Merredin".--Please consider asking that user, something like: Are you using A.I. to write articles, or might there be another reason why some of your articles do not seem encyclopedic.--For now, i will pass on reading the '4 other articles'.--Good luck while i fix other articles for free. ~2025-27027-53 (talk) 15:57, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious: How is Cowaramup, Western Australia promo? Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 09:07, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not trying to be rude: I have put tags back into the article.

simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cowaramup%2C_Western_Australia&diff=10545026&oldid=10542360
.--I will try to let you know, when the article gets 'near where it should be', in regard to not using 'phrases that sound like a tourist pamphlet/brouchure'.--If that comes across as helpful, then fine. ~2025-27264-18 (talk) 20:39, 1 October 2025 (UTC) /~2025-27027-5[reply]

Alexandra Bridge, Western Australia.--Same (unspecified) problems, new IP, and quite likely the same user as above.--No 'crime' committed, except article not ready to stay published.--When this IP moves on, then i plan to tag his/her one, last article: "Tone", and "POV".--"Tourist-brochure wording", is the 'dead giveaway'.--No one has yet written on their talk-page: Within a day or two, then i might write: "Hi! Your articles do not seem ready to stay published.--Are you using A.I. to create articles? Bye for now, while i ask the community to put limits on (arguably) your daily publishing of too many articles, that do not seem ready to stay published.". ~2025-27264-18 (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this got to AN Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 02:10, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Australia locations - AI concern

Over the past couple of weeks, I've noticed a large number of towns/locations in Australia (especially Western Australia) being made. I'm concerned that they may be AI-generated. Before I start tagging them as such, I'd like other opinions/eyes on it. Some examples include:

They seem to be almost AI summarized versions of the EN. articles. It's utilizing same source for population found from the En. articles, then has a lot of bullet point summaries of things.

Any suggestions on how to approach these? CountryANDWestern (talk) 11:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Similar topic here Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 12:19, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If an IP-user (or non-establishe user) is creating c. 3 or more spammy A.I. thingies, in one day, then that should be the time to put on the brakes.--Hard.

The 'same symptoms' (possibly same user), were pointed out on Sept 29, thread "The luck of the draw (or are more of the articles 'seriously challenged')". ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 20:24, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Many of these articles could be deleted as Promo - even article "South West (Western Australia)", version at this time.--Am i going to forward a list of words (so that the software engineers can fine tune, 'garbage generation')? Well, i might give that a pass. ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 20:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is it is reasonable to ask for a temporary block ('can not create new article', at least), as soon as someone has created 3 spammy articles, within 'hours'?--Another thing: two (of the three) articles, should probably be Deleted.--(A third article, i did fix ('for no reason, that has anything to do, with the other two articles')).--Justification for Delete, might be: the user has created three, promo articles - in other words three, bad articles. ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 00:20, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Update - of the three articles, i have nominated the last one, for QD, A7 - and promo.--In regard to the other two articles: Maybe they only need a tag; At least i did not catch any promo, while skimming thru once. ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 16:51, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The elephant in the room, might be: Should any of the articles of

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2025-27875-98

, be saved/salvaged? C. none, is my view. ~2025-27778-01 (talk) 17:53, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

South West (Western Australia) has been deleted two times, and recreated.

That article needs RFD (justification: 'promo language' and/or A7).--The same RFD should really include at least the 'author's ' two other articles. (Checking the other two article, before nominating? Don't worry, the RFD will make things right, and RFD will point out anything that should get kept. Not likely that anything will get kept, in this case.)--Good luck (while i fix other articles for free). ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 02:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'New author' (October 11). At least 4 new articles; the first of those, Carey Park, Western Australia.--I am guessing that it has at least one hallucination.--Article waiting for ' anyone's RFD '.--Throw in the rest of the new articles (from that author), in the same RFD; that is fine by me.--RFD will sort things out.--Good luck, while i fix other articles for free. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 08:56, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It has at least one hallucination - that is my hypothesis. (Earlier i used the word "guess", which might understate my view.) ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 19:22, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

College Grove, Western Australia, is in the cluster. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 16:53, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Davenport, Western Australia ,too. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 16:53, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

'New author' "October 11's author #2. Only 8 ~~one~~ new article for now: East Bunbury, Western Australia, is the first one; It seems to have at least one hallucination. ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 13:53, 11 October 2025 (UTC) /~2025-28382-09 (talk) 14:04, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- That account's new articles:
  simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2025-28449-73
  . ~2025-28382-09 (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
~~'New author' "October 11's author #3. Only one new article for now:~~ Glen Iris, Western Australia. At least one hallucination, it seems.~2025-28382-09 (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is it just me or is there a lot more unhelpful changes being made recently?

I noticed a lot of unhelpful changes in the past few hours. Is this actually abnormal or am I just looking at Special:RecentChanges more today and noticing more? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Considering it's just a few LTA (sometimes)/cross-wiki abusers, it's quite normal. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:39, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh didn't catch that they were LTAs. Were all of those people LTAs doing some kind of coordinated attack? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:41, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

LTA's usually just vandalise until they get blocked and after a few hours come back. Plutus^{💬 🎃} — Fortune favors the curious 03:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are children's tv shows a common vandalism target or something? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 02:11, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle: Yes, they are. I have a number of them on my watchlist for that reason. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:26, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

Hi,

Please, does a deletion vote without (or with very little) arguments have the same weight as a preservation vote with arguments ?

Does the vote of an administrator have more weight than the vote of a non-registered user ?

Also, what are the chances that I will get back the page I spent time creating ?

Thanks,--~2025-28471-43 (talk) 09:50, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rfd is not a vote, the closing admin will decide based on the discussion. Also editors who came here not to just vote but who have also done other things generally carry more weight. Note also that during the time it is bring discussed the article can be changed and improved. Eptalon (talk) 10:03, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. Does that apply also to "Deletion review" ? Also, can the administrators still view an article that was deleted and its sources ?

Thanks, ~2025-28471-43 (talk) 10:45, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-28471-43 yes administrators can view an article that was deleted Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:32, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Okay, great.

Thanks, ~2025-28530-99 (talk) 12:50, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of highly wanted templates

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Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:52, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for accidntally clicking a shortcut I will make the mesage here more clear Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:53, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is a very large amount of templates that are wanted on Special:WantedPAges and I would think they could be easily imported from enwiki. But some were deleted in the past, I believe likel because they were less used then Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:53, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended content

Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:55, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the mess as I accidentally pressed ctrl+enter since I was doing ctrl+v a lot

These are all of the templates that have 100 or more links and are not present. I think almost all of them should be imported from enwiki unless something is otherwise keeping them from import Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 20:57, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've collapsed the top of this, I'm not sure we needed a full list from that special:page.

A lot of the reason for not having these templates are because some of them are simply created from copying items from enwiki. Simply importing them doesn't help us where it isn't suitable or where it needs updating.

If you had specific ones that needed importing, that we can do. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:01, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am looking at this Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/Template:1964 European Nations' Cup referees and would the best thing be just to edit Template:UEFA European Championship templates so that these do not appear like they are being used? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 21:07, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Immanuelle: Please do not import templates that are not actually being used. The wanted template page shows unused templates that are either linked to or transcluded; we only care about transclusions. A lot of the templates listed are seen as wanted because they are in related template lists on template documentation pages, but they aren't actually transcluded anywhere.

The problem with removing them from pages like the one you suggest is that we often synchronize our templates to enwiki's. If we remove the templates, they may just appear again when we import the page from enwiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:45, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Total Backlog Annihilation" phase five

Hi everyone! After the Category:Pages with broken reference names backlog was cleared in phase 4 of WikiProject TBA (Total Backlog Annihilation), a new phase has just begun to clear the next backlog: Category:Dead-end pages. Instructions are provided on how to help clear the backlog. You can find out more and register interest at User:Ferien/WikiProject TBA/Phase V. All help is very much appreciated to try and clear as many backlogs on our wiki as possible! Thank you very much for all volunteers who have helped so far, and thank you in advance for all those who will help in this phase! --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 01:45, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This should include Special:DeadendPages too, because they have exactly the same issue, except they are guaranteed to have no links. ~2025-27691-51 (talk) 03:24, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~2025-27691-51, thank you! This is now included. --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 13:34, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh I am interested Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:39, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a bot we can use to remove the template from those pages that have links Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:43, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A backlog I really want to fix is User:Cewbot/Interlanguage link templates need to fix and Category:Interlanguage link template existing link can we work on these in a later stage? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 03:48, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so I completed all the major ones except a couple random errors caused by cewbot. They really should be resolved very soon and have no links on that page anymore. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 23:59, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow it has been 100% cleared in mainspace Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:38, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so this diff we need to repair the capitalization error but there is substantial changes that need to be recoered https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adult_animation&diff=10529197&oldid=10415869 Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:50, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong link meant this Category:Interlanguage link template existing link Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:56, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is included or not. But I did a lot of work to fix up interlanguage links Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 02:34, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ferien I noticed a lot of links were added with a specific edit summary related to the backlog clearing. Is there some kind of tool that is being used or is it just that people are manually copying the explanation relating to the backlog thing here? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 04:26, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Immanuelle, sorry for not responding to your comments up until now. To answer your questions:

The current backlog we are focusing on is Category:Dead-end pages but the categories are often suggested to me by other editors, so you are welcome to suggest other categories for the next phase. You're also more than welcome to work on other backlogs at the same time, so thank you for your work on the interlanguage link category.
There isn't a bot to remove the dead-end template from the ones with links as far as I know, and in the time it would take to develop and approve one, we can just remove them from the pages as we go.
I've encouraged other editors to link to User:Ferien/TBA/P5 in their edit summaries to try and encourage more people to work on the project, but there's no tool being used for it.

Let me know if you have any other questions, thanks :) --Ferien (talk | join TBA!) 13:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think there is that much of a backlog of the interlanguage link stuff now. Most of that stuff is resolved now. we are definitely working on the harder side of it now. Focusing on nonexistent foreign language pages and pages that are more ones that should be created than syntax errors Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 21:02, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did a lot of work on the category. My hope is to add at least one link to each category member by the end of the campaign. Do we have a bot to remove the template? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 21:03, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have a bot. You need to remove the deadend template from the article when you are done adding the links. Please go back to the edits you've made and, if you feel you have adequately addressed the concerns, remove the template. Otherwise, other members of the project will go into the article to fix them unnecessarily. CountryANDWestern (talk) 21:31, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for the issues there. I am working on it now. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 21:47, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Once the special page refreshes can we add the template to all of these pages again to get the categories working again? Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 00:03, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The category is working as intended as is the special page. There’s no reason to add the template when we can just fix the page. It’s just adding extra steps. CountryANDWestern (talk) 00:05, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The extra step adds them all to the category where you can then fix pages and remove them from the category Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 18:59, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can fix them directly from the Special page. They don't need to be in the category to be fixed. CountryANDWestern (talk) 19:01, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The special page only tracks them with a substantial delay so this makes it much more difficult to track the work. Plus if you add one link it removes it from the special page even if it needs more. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m still on the side of tagging everything on the special page so we can do this based on categories. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:43, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. So if I were to have approval to mass tag these with dead end I would find it very easy to afterwards clear the backlog. Because I could then go through the entire category and just add links+remove template. Rather than the difficult task of remembering which ones on the special page need to have links added. This is my argument for tagging the ones on the special page. I think the category can be cleared very quickly but the special page requires days to effectively clear since it relies on information that is remembered/not shared among contributors. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 18:47, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Again, I believe that that's an extra step we don't need. Not everything needs mass tagging. CountryANDWestern (talk) 18:49, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I want to thank @Dead-end remover for their participation here Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk | contribs) 08:17, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]