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VGA Candidate[change source]

Anyone want to check out Wikipedia:Proposed_very_good_articles#Lawrence,_Kansas? I'd rather not let this one slip through the cracks. I would be very grateful and humbled if anyone read the article to find any issues or give ideas on how to improve it. It's been over a year since our last VGA anyway. It's about time we get another. ~Junedude433talk 15:14, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

RFC: Change level 2 warning template icons to orange[change source]

I am asking for comments on this. I think it should be done to keep it consistent with the regular Wikipedia. --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 12:07, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Oppose There is no need for simple to follow "the regular Wikipedia". (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 12:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Well, I don't think we should do something just because the English Wikipedia (or as you call it, the Regular Wikipedia) does it. ButI still think it should be different, like, the same icon for 1 and 2? Really? It causes confusion on whether it's a 1 or a 2. I support. Computer Fizz (talk) 20:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Support True. They can be confusing. --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 20:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Oppose. I don't remember how many times we've been through this. The status quo should be kept. Hiàn (talk) 21:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose This has been discussed far too many times. The current colour is the preferred colour. The first two are the same colour because they are both essentially the same level, some people start "warning" on 2 others on 1. They are essentially just different wordings for the same severity. We don't use orange because we don't want it to appear too "severe". We also have an LTA who keeps trying to change the colour of this template so it also has me suspect of the account that is behind requesting this yet again. -DJSasso (talk) 11:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Abstain --Znotch190711 (Talk - Contributions - CentralAuth) 02:10, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Oppose per DJSasso, I would think orange may make level 2 seem too severe. (see WP:BITE). Desertborn (talk) 12:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I am always getting logged out[change source]

Simple English Wikipedia always logs me out. I cannot log in now. Can someone manage to fix this? CarlB Flyingcock (talk) 19:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Check your cookie settings. If you have previously ticked the "keep me logged in" box, then typically you should be able to stay logged in. Ensure they are enabled for this site and that they're not being cleared and that should be able to fix the issues. As is apparent, this is (very likely) not something the community or devs can fix, it is instead an issue on your end. Hiàn (talk) 01:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

RFC: New warning template.[change source]

I am proposing a new template for people that do vandalism to citations, such as removing or damaging them.

Level 1:[change source]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to make helpful changes to Wikipedia. However, some of your changes did not seem to be useful for citations and have been reverted or removed. If you want to learn more about citations, please visit citing sources, and test these out on the sandbox, and not main articles. Thank you.

Level 2:[change source]

Information.svg Please do not make unhelpful changes to Wikipedia. The changes you made seem to damage citations, which constitutes as vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you want to learn more about citations, please visit citing sources, and test these out on the sandbox, and not main articles. Thank you.

Level 3:[change source]

Nuvola apps important.svgYour recent changes are damaging citations, which is vandalism and are not acceptable on any Wikipedia. Please stop. If you continue vandalizing, you will be blocked from changing pages on Wikipedia. If you want to test or learn about citations, please visit citing sources, and test these out on the sandbox.

Level 4:[change source]

Stop hand nuvola.svg Your recent changes are damaging citations, and is vandalism, and this shows that you want to harm Wikipedia. This is your last warning. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from changing Wikipedia.

I will not do a level 4-IM because I cannot see a reason that would be needed. Please leave your comments below. --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 15:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

It is unnecessary to have different templates for each kind of vandalism. Just use the normal vandalism templates, or better yet, don't use any and write a personal message. -DJSasso (talk) 16:10, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
yes, ideally these templates should be made only for things thathappen a lot. I've only seen this happen once or twice so itshould probably just use uw-vandalism. At least the level 4 should.
What I might supportthough, is replacing those "single issue" stuff with 4 levels. Computer Fizz (talk) 17:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
After you have warned them once for the single issue you just switch over to the vandalism template because after they are aware its an issue it is vandalism. If you really want levels that is. -DJSasso (talk) 17:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Oppose as we have sufficient warning templates already. We can just use the normal vandal one for this unless it becomes a big issue. Desertborn (talk) 19:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Wyatt2049[change source]

Over the past few days, there have been a lot of discussion about this user. He was recently blocked for disruptively editing, and, while his actions may be down that path, i was surprised to see it happen so fast. I see he has a lot of problems about icons and stuff which while it may be fine in his userspace, is now extending outside of there. I do not think blocking and banning him is the right way to handle this situation. I think someone should mentor wyatt to help him editing more like the other people on the Simple English Wikipedia. Ideally it should be an administrator to make sure they can block if needed...but if none of the admins want to, i will. Anyone wants to help? !!!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Computer Fizz (talkcontribs) 20:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I have given Wyatt2049 some suggestions on their talk page. Others have as well. Hopefully Wyatt2049 takes them to heart. In particular, I have suggested to focus on only content areas for now, and stay away from anti-vandal work, RFC, AfD, etc. If followed, that may allow time to grow and learn away from the areas where they are having issues. We'll see what happens. But several have tried to help, for sure. Now we wait and see what happens. But I would say, feel free to mentor if you would like. Desertborn (talk) 20:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Many pages about cities from the US are orphaned. Let's fix that.[change source]

I think we need to start a list or something because there's a lot of orphaned pages about cities in the great plains. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

There are lots of orphans of every subject. That is a normal state for a small wiki. Feel free to pick a subject you like and work on expanding those small stubs. This isn't specific to those types of articles. -DJSasso (talk) 14:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I've done what I can. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:40, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Can you specify which states have a bunch of orphaned cities? I can try to use my basic template for city articles to get a bunch of links and content. Just point me in the right direction. ~Junedude433talk 21:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Oklahoma and Arkansas specifically. Derpdart56 (talk) 20:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Simple English Embassy on[change source]

Would it help simple's relationship with, I don't know. But it may help us recruit more people to help us in the wiki. Just a thought. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:49, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

It's true that we could use more editors here, but recruiting on a large scale could cause us more work for a while, so we'd need to be prepared for that. Most people who come here from enwiki don't understand that writing simple language is actually more difficult than writing regular English. It also takes them a while to understand how this wiki is different in ways other than using simple language in articles. Those things can be overcome, but if we get an influx of new editors, helping them learn could take time from doing things we'd otherwise be doing. New editors who can fit in here would be a net gain, but possibly not in the short term. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Not 100% sure what an embassy in this context is, but anything to get more people here I see as a net gain. It's no different than if you hire a bunch of new people for a job; sure, they will probably make some mistakes (I know I made my fair share here), but eventually, they will be fine. @Auntof6: is concerned that it will take time to "train" them which could be spent doing something else. It's a valid concern, as it's a basic opportunity cost setup, but think about how many people frequently make large contributions. The answer is very few. Often times, it's new people that want to actually make something; that's how it was for me with the Lawrence, Kansas article. Now that article is a proposed featured article, something that we haven't had in a year. I would say the mistakes made were worth hundreds of pages written and a possible featured article.
Considering the lack of content here, anything to get more ediotrs is better. Some may be problematic, but considering that these are Wikipedians, they usually have the best intentions at heart and would probably be willing to improve. Short-term pains for long-term gains due to many new people. It's what Overland Park had to go through; it's nothing we can't handle. ~Junedude433talk 21:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
I think having an embassy could help our relations with en more. Remember, we're short-staffed here and training new editors could help us in the long run. Yes, it would be hard, and no, it wouldn't help us in the short term. But it's worth looking into. Derpdart56 (talk) 20:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Please move Aragon Plasma Coagulation to Argon Plasma Coagulation[change source]

Please perform above-mentioned move. The title is misspelled. Thanks in advance, --Count Count (talk) 11:49, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Done. -DJSasso (talk) 12:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

proposed change to mos[change source]

Hello, i'm currently proposing some gender related changes to the MoS. This is a notification, so please keep all discussion there and not here.

(note to self: delete this when the discussion is over) Computer Fizz (talk) 05:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

You might want to link to the actual discussion.... -DJSasso (talk) 10:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style . Bottom two sections Computer Fizz (talk) 16:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move on 15 September 2019[change source]

I want to move Hexadecimal numeral system to Hexadecimal, because the word "Hexadecimal" widely means "base 16". –Yours sincerely, Soumyabrata 10:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Because Hexadecimal redirects and it's what most people seem to use (commonname), I wouldsupport movingit. Computer Fizz (talk) 17:15, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
This was pretty uncontroversial so I have moved it. -DJSasso (talk) 10:47, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

List suggestion[change source]

Can we please have a list of atari computers? -Derpdart56 (talk) 19:11, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@Derpdart56: Yes, we can. Go ahead and create it. If you want someone else to create it, list it at WP:Requested pages. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:48, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Reagan Era Tax Cuts and Blocked Citations[change source]

Hi, I'm taking a poly sci class and we watched Inequality for All, a 2013 documentary. What became really apparent to me was how few Americans understood that the American tax system taxed the richest tax brackets at a lower rate than the poor tax brackets.

I went to and the most important parts needed updating. Specifically the term " cut the highest Personal Income Tax rate from 70% to 50% " is really vague because its referring to the most rich income tax bracket but when read sounds like it might be applying to some random category, like dolphin owners who have recently had a child, or anything really.

But when I tried to edit the page using the various citations found online, those were blocked, even though they were correct according to my memory of accounting class textbooks. I may eventually try to cite the accounting textbooks directly into the page, but there isn't a good reason for it and keeping 'banned' doesn't make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

@ First of all, you're talking about the English Wikipedia. This is the Simple English Wikipedia. Second, what error did you get when you tried to add it? Sometimes webpages are blocked because theyare unreliable sources. Computer Fizz (talk) 23:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)