Wikipedia talk:Guide to layout

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Clarification requested[change source]

Can someone tell me whether the intention is that "Optional sections" should be in the sequence that they are listed here? I was trying to find out whether "Related pages" should be moved above "References" here in Simple, found this page through wikidata after going to EN wikipedia's redirect from WP:ORDER, and thought it could be helpful to others to put such a redirect here. Thoughts anyone (the page I was wondering whether to change is Ecosystem)? Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

"Related pages" should be above "References". When in doubt, copy established usage. Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Following established usage would only be appropriate if I were making a new page. In this case the change could have been an unnecessary edit if, in fact, the attitude at Simple is that the sequence of the sections is unimportant. I'll clarify this page for dummies such as myself to use. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Other optional section headings[change source]

In the subsection for Optional sections, what are the Simple English WP headings for the following?

  • In popular culture
  • Legacy (in biographies of the deceased)
  • Notable people (born or living in a geographic location)

I've seen alternate wordings for these in the EN WP (e.g. "In the media", "Famous residents"), but not in the MoS Guide to Layout. I did see possible guidelines in en:Category:WikiProject style advice, but the three I'm asking are quite general. I would suppose they go above the existing "Optional" sections. -- Deborahjay (talk) 14:51, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

I would probably use those names. There really isn't much that can be simplified in them. That being said I am not sure we would include them a page like this here. We tend to have our "documentation" be simple as well as the language. So they might be a bit more detail than needed. -DJSasso (talk) 11:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
  • I would say 'legacy' as used so often is a cant term for the correct and simple 'influence'. The correct use of 'legacy' would be when part of a person's estate is passed down after the person's death. An extension might be 'something handed down by a predecessor'. But in actuality its use in popular culture usually means nothing more than 'influence'.
I would use the other two terms as they are. I think readers will understand 'popular culture' correctly, and we have our own guidance as to what 'notable' means. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)