Talk:Bill Farmer

Date Framer began working for Disney[change source]

First, this is a Biography of a living person. Extra care has to be taken to make sure the information in the article is correct. Two reliable sources say he started with Disney in 1986—one says 1986 and the other says late 1986. Any changes to the date cannot break text-source integrity. This means a source-cited statement can't be changed to something the source did not say. That corrupts the source citation and the article. To change the date, the replacement citation needs to also be reliable, but the issue between sources quoting a different date also needs to be resolved. This is why a comparison of sources, their respective quality of information, and who published them is necessary. User:Rus793 (talk) 21:50, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the World Public Library reference was removed is because that source gets much of its information from Wikipedia. Wikipedia or any source that gets information from Wikipedia is not reliable. See Wikipedia:Verifiability. I changed the image to help show the name of his wife. Also, as an infobox is a summary of information in the article. I don't believe it is as important to cite any sources in the infobox as they already are, or hopefully will be source cited in the article. User:Rus793 (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, and other sites I've been looking at also says he started voicing him in 1987, it's confusing. FrozenFan2 (talk) 00:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia editors have to go with what they can prove. Both sources that say 1986 are reliable sources according to Wikipedia's criteria. But any and all sources used in Wikipedia articles need to be reliable, published, secondary sources. I need to take a second look at the Mike Gencarelli article but don't have the time right now. Thanks User:Rus793 (talk) 13:21, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the source and it's from WordPress, which happens to be given as an example of sources to avoid ("Blogs like WordPress") in WP:RS. As mentioned in the edit comment, it adds nothing to the article. Also, there is no purpose in stacking 3 or more sources to verify a single statement. One source is almost always sufficient—two might be used where there is some controversy over a fact in the statement. I don't believe anything limits the number of sources that can be used for a single statement, but using more than two it seems completely impractical. Also, stacked citations ([1][2]... [11] etc.) draw more scrutiny as it may indicate synthesis (using multiple sources to reach a conclusion none of the sources reach individually). Bill Farmer works in a field where blogs, fan pages, podcasts and social media prevail. Unfortunately for us, none of those are usable. This makes finding sources all that much more difficult. He's an award-winning voice actor with an impressive career. But he works behind the scenes and is not the star of any of the films he's worked on. The article still has three good sources that seem to meet all the criteria and three reliable sources is far better than any number of unreliable sources. User:Rus793 (talk) 16:33, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]