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Proposal to add "products" to quick-delete reason A4[change | change source]

I have introduced a proposal to add products to other subjects whose articles could be quick-deleted under A4 under appropriate conditions. Please see Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy#A4May2015. Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) 23:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Original discussion has been closed. Consensus is "yes" to part 1, "no" to part 2. But there is still an open question as to the wording. Please see Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy#Closing discussion. Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
This discussion was closed on June 11. See Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy#A4May2015 for outcome. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:06, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

HTTPS[change | change source]

22:00, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Template help needed on Template:Infobox NBA team[change | change source]

This template seems to be leaving some stray text. You can see it at the top of the template itself, and on pages that use it, including Boston Celtics. Could someone take a look? Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I got it partway there. All of the "stray text" is now inside the infobox, as it should be. Now I can't seem to figure out how to get that bit to spread out across the entire infobox. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:42, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Just fixed it in Special:Diff/5160971. The infobox table had two columns, but the original syntax assumed that you only want the text to be in the first column. Using colspan="2" will do the trick. --Hydriz (talk) 14:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Ouch. Didn't put the "2" in quotes. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:02, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you! --Auntof6 (talk) 15:03, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Template:Main[change | change source]

This template seems to be broken! It looks like it's trying to call a Lua module. This is a problem!! StevenJ81 (talk) 17:30, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

@Peterdownunder: Are you able to import the respective Lua modules from the English Wikipedia as you did for the templates? That should fix the problem. --Hydriz (talk) 21:08, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I probably broke it last night - I don't think we use the Lua modules here.--Peterdownunder (talk) 21:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted an import I made last night and that seems to have fixed the problem.--Peterdownunder (talk) 22:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Um, I thought I fixed this a little while ago by importing the modules. It was working after I imported 2 or 3 modules. Peter, your import didn't actually seem to change the template -- I tried reverting your change first, but there was nothing to revert. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
That confused me too, but I found I had to go back to the last version on Simple - so where it said I imported 5 revisions, I had to go back six steps. That was a good discovery, so I am ready for next time.--Peterdownunder (talk) 23:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Yeah I don't believe Lua works here as I don't think its been implemented on this wiki. -DJSasso (talk) 16:41, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Lua[change | change source]

What is Lua, and should we think about having it?--Peterdownunder (talk) 23:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

It is a scripting language and I don't know. I would have said no before because who would maintain it in our small userbase. But seeing as more and more templates on en are converting to it and we tend to use theirs we probably should. -DJSasso (talk) 02:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, old templates that have been here should continue to work. But anything new that relies on Lua could end up breaking things, as seems to have happened this week. The key is to look for a call of {{#invoke: ...}}, as that is what invokes a Lua module. StevenJ81 (talk) 03:46, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Lua provides performance improvements compared to using templates and should be preferred if template syntax gets too complicated. I would be glad to help out on writing Lua modules though. --Hydriz (talk) 03:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
What is involved - do we have the skills to implement it?--Peterdownunder (talk) 07:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
You will need to know how to program in Lua and understand how it is implemented within MediaWiki. It should be fairly easy for existing developers to pick up the skills needed to program in Lua, but otherwise it would be difficult to use it as a replacement of templates. Do search up the reasons Wikimedia decided to implement such an extension to MediaWiki to understand the rationale behind having Lua modules. It should be sufficient to solely import from the English Wikipedia, but we will need people to regularly check for updates on their end. --Hydriz (talk) 10:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
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I do see a misunderstanding somewhere. Lua is already available on this wiki (see a list). However, when importing templates from the English Wikipedia, it is also important to know which modules the template invokes and import that module accordingly. --Hydriz (talk) 10:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Gungnir[change | change source]

This article was just created a little while ago. Should it be nominated for quick deletion or tagged for cleanup? 184.2.107.214 (talk) 04:05, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Problems with cite templates[change | change source]

The citation templates have been producing messy output for a while (see this discussion for one place where it was discussed). I've been seeing some editors substitute the templates to make things look better. I understand wanting to have things look good, but I don't think we want to substitute these templates. The problem will eventually be fixed, and then we'll have all those places that aren't using the templates any more. I know the output looks the same and is in acceptable format, but I think we want to use the templates everywhere we can. What do others think? --Auntof6 (talk) 17:01, 2 July 2015 (UTC)