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Creative Commons 4.0[change source]

Hello! I'm writing from the Wikimedia Foundation to invite you to give your feedback on a proposed move from CC BY-SA 3.0 to a CC BY-SA 4.0 license across all Wikimedia projects. The consultation will run from October 5 to November 8, and we hope to receive a wide range of viewpoints and opinions. Please, if you are interested, take part in the discussion on Meta-Wiki.

Apologies that this message is only in English. This message can be read and translated in more languages here. Joe Sutherland (talk) 01:35, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Hilbert space article needs work[change source]

Does anyone think Hilbert space is actually written in simple, easy to understand English? Is there a template I can use to nominate it for further simplification? (talk) 18:20, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Found it: {{complex}}.
By the way, how is "change source" simpler than "edit"? Shouldn't that be "change text"? (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
You are correct, of course, that the article Hilbert space is not written using just Simple English terms. When we write articles on scientific and mathematical concepts, it is often necessary to link non-simple terms to articles about those terms, or to dictionary entries for them. In this way, the non-simple terms can, themselves, be explained without resorting to adding a lot of text that isn't directly about the subject. Hilbert space contains many such links, although some of them remain as red links because the related articles haven't been written yet. As to your other point, the word "edit" can be considered to be somewhat ambiguous, but I have also wondered why it says "change source" instead of "change text" or "change wording" or something similar. Etamni | ✉   11:24, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Removal of declined unblock requests[change source]

I don't understand why declined unblock requests cannot be removed from the user talk page. They are still visible in the page history, and especially if there are numerous other messages, they can just clog up the page. This can make the page harder to edit/load efficiently, mainly when editing from mobile devices or mobile web browser. MPD (Talk to me!) 11:49, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Because it allows admins to see in an instant what the current situation with an account is. It makes it easy to see if a user just had a request declined. If they are abusing their request etc etc. All active block/ban/unblock notices are required to stay on talk pages as long as the block/ban is in effect. If a user is currently blocked/banned unblock notices won't clog the page up as there shouldn't be any new activity other than unblock requests on the talk page anyway since they are blocked/banned. -DJSasso (talk) 12:34, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

T:TDYK's holding area[change source]

Back then when there was high activity on T:TDYK, the holding area was set up so that hooks marked as good to go ({{DYKyes}}) can be moved there, and not be counted towards an editor's hook nomination limit (since abolished). However, I think the holding area concept has outlived its usefulness, and makes the process more troublesome because it is now essentially doubling the number of DYK queues. What does the community think about this? Chenzw  Talk  17:10, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

I think that's reasonable. New arrivals here might like to know the history of the hook limit, so here goes. Once, a number of editors contributed one or two hooks when needed. Then an especially energetic editor put up many proposals in quick succession, which made it difficult for others to feel they were doing anything useful. Several regular editors stopped contributing. The hook limit was to prevent one person swamping the system but, even so, some editors have never come back to this feature. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:39, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Agreed, I think we could even have just one queue, given the extremely low level of activity. We should have a banner of something so that once a user has a created a new page, they see a banner advertising DYK. Jcc (talk) 21:15, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Titles in simple English[change source]

Hello. This is a list of some articles in en Wikipedia. If we had articles about them in simple Wikipedia are the titles would be the same?

Xaris333 (talk) 11:46, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Generally titles stay the same. There are the odd occurrence where we change them. But we need to follow WP:COMMONNAME in order to be simple and not confusing. -DJSasso (talk) 14:44, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
When the title is the official name of something, like these are, the title is almost always the same. You didn't mention if you're thinking of creating these, or if you want to read them. If you want someone else to create them, you could add them to Wikipedia:Requested pages. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:29, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #3—2016[change source]

17:49, 15 October 2016 (UTC)