Wikipedia:Simple talk

From Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Returning[change source]

Hello everyone! I have returned from my wikibreak(even though I didn't announce it.) I am here to keep editing. SoyokoAnis - talk 15:04, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome back! Tsugaru let's talk! :) 01:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there I'm so surry to buther you. I have a question : Could you please translate to Simple English [1]This article ? You have sources References here [2]. Thank you so much Best Regards. If you don't want to translate it into Simple English could you than do it Translate to another language ? Thank you. 80.11.161.28 (talk) 18:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, there have been several attempts to push this content into SEWP, there have also been several RfDs, if memory serves me. So far, we weren't able to establish that the lady is notable. Western Frisian /Frysk is a language spoken in the Netherlands, perhaps in Germany. There are about 350.000 speakers. If the lady is indeed notable, why doesn't she have an article in Dutch, German or French wikipedias? Eptalon (talk) 19:23, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Of the 23 active requests, 7 have people other than me submitting opinions. Are people just ignoring the requests? Should we even bother with requests when everything is a soft delete? Pure Evil (talk) 16:58, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An RfD will usually stay up for a week; some are closed 1-2 days early, when the result is clear. And no, quick-deletion cannot replace an RfD. If people are asked to discuss, and they don't write anything, its difficult for them to later to complain. So, no, we can't force people to participate in RfDs, but if they don't they'll havew a hard time discussing whatever the result was (whith which they don't agree). Btw: I just closed four RfDs... Eptalon (talk) 18:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Speaking for myself, as an admin I sometimes don't comment on RFDs just so that I can be an uninvolved admin when it comes time to close them. I do comment if I have a viewpoint that isn't already represented in other comments, or if I disagree with the way the discussion seems to be headed. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agree entirely with Auntof6's viewpoint. If something is generating a lot of discussion I will usually choose to leave open for longer so that the arguments can be presented and responded to. On the other hand, if the article is clearly inside or outside the guidelines I will close it early so we can focus on what needs to be discussed, Peterdownunder (talk) 04:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Voting now open on the revised Enforcement Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct[change source]

Hello all,

The voting period for the revised Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines is now open! Voting will be open for two weeks and close at 23.59 UTC on January 31, 2023. Please visit the voter information page on Meta-wiki for voter eligibility information and details on how to vote.

For more details on the Enforcement Guidelines and the voting process, see our previous message.

On behalf of the UCoC Project Team,

Zuz (WMF) (talk) 12:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

VGA Update: Red Hot Chili Peppers[change source]

The page currently has little to nothing about the band past 2014. I have written sections that cover this in my sandbox, but they do have some important redlinks. Plus, since RHCP is a Very Good Article, I was hoping some other editors could check over it and make sure it's ready. As for the citations, I'll get those sorted soon. Cheers - 🤘🤘 DovahFRD (talk) 15:45, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Coding work needed[change source]

Is there some way to change the PAGENAME parameter in a template so it will replace the spaces with underscores? This change is necessary for {{Welcome-en}}. If there are spaces within the URL, only the text before the first space is recognized as part of the URL, which results in the issue at User talk:Just some student on the web. Instead of linking to "User:Just some student on the web", it links to "User:Just", and the other words become part of the link text. Lights and freedom (talk) 04:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I looked in MetaWiki’s magic words but there wasn’t anything I could find. SikiWtideI (Speak to the backwards police) 14:11, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

instead of using bare external links, it would be a better idea to use interwiki links such as this.— *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 14:31, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This works and the change was made. Pure Evil (talk) 15:25, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikibreak[change source]

Hi fellas, I will have my wikibreak for few weeks until Feb 2023. I have my exams so I will be busy in that time. I will join as soon as it ends. Have a nice day. Dibyojyotilet's chat 17:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DRC-B5, good luck with your exams! See you soon. --Ferien (talk) 17:23, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Technical input needed on "Expand <language>" templates[change source]

A lot of the templates in Category:Expand by language Wikipedia templates have stray }} characters at the bottom of the page. I compared some to the English Wikipedia versions, and this seems to be because the templates here were created without the following line at the beginning:

{{ {{{|safesubst:}}}#invoke:Unsubst||date=__DATE__ |$B=

I don't know that all of our templates have this difference, but one that does is Template:Expand Basque.

So my question is, do we need to add that line to our templates here, or can we remove the extra brackets? I know this has something to do with substitution, but I don't understand what the extra line at enwiki is doing.

Thanks in advance. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The missing line deals with how the template gets subst: Actually, how it doesn't get subst'd. That line prevents subst: from working and adds the "date= <month>, <year>" parameter to the template when someone tries to substitute it. They could go either way (add the line or remove the extra set of brackets) but it is probably better to readd the safestub line just to be safe. Pure Evil (talk) 07:59, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I also saw this }} on which template page.. I guess German or something.. I nearly forgotten. I couldn't fix it in general and later I ignored it. Dibyojyotilet's chat 12:22, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unlock Sites Cookies sites[change source]

can't log in not cookies 173.49.207.112 (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How can we keep up with templates that need regular updating?[change source]

I've been doing a lot of work with templates, and I keep finding ones that need updating. I've been thinking it might be helpful to have a way to call attention to templates that need to be updated periodically. This could help us find those templates and check them systematically if we want to. This would include, but not be limited to, the following:

  • Templates for sports teams that don't specify a year. An example is Template:1. FFC Frankfurt squad, which looks like it's meant to have information on the current squad at any given time.
  • Templates for people in political positions that change hands, especially those that are regularly up for (re-)election. These would probably be mostly navigational boxes. A lot of the high-profile ones get updated when they need it, but I think we have some that not as many of us pay attention to.
  • Many templates with names that start with "Latest". Many of these templates are under the categories Category:Latest stable software release templates and Category:Latest preview software release templates.
  • Many templates with names that start with "Current".
  • Others?

I'd also recommend adding {{Check completeness of transclusions}} to these templates.

How could we do this?

  • We could create a category, possibly named "Templates that need periodic updating", to hold the templates.
  • We could put something in individual templates that would flag them as needing update after a certain date passes. This would be similar to the way the template {{update after}} works with articles. With sports templates, we could make the date be the beginning of the sport's season. With political templates, the date could be the time when elections happen.

I realize that anything we do might be wiped out when templates are imported from enwiki, but maybe there's a way around that.

These are my preliminary thoughts. Does anyone else think this would be helpful? Are there other options? -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:13, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Auntof6: I think a tracking category would be useful for this. I personally keep track of the German population metadata templates, COVID-19 data templates and other miscellaneous data templates, which i look for in categories such as Category:Data templates. --Fehufanga (talk) 01:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Fehufanga: Thanks -- yes, I didn't think of data templates, although I guess the software release ones are also data templates. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:28, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This template's figures are apparently over 10 years out of date. Would anyone like to update it? Or nominate it for deletion? English Wikipedia doesn't have an equivalent that I could find. -- Auntof6 (talk) 05:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bot to update TOTW...[change source]

Hello all, I have written a bot to update the TOTW on Simple. It uses Jwiki (and Java), and it updated the ToTW yesterday. Just wanted to post this here, to see if there's an interest in such a bot. We are looking at roughly 100 lines of code, so nothing big. Eptalon (talk) 09:23, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Eptalon: Would you remind us what TOTW stands for? -- Auntof6 (talk) 10:06, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Translation of the week. It is updated weekly in Wikipedia:RecentChanges. BRP ever 10:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Eptalon Not really a big deal, but the bot seems to add a newline before the template. — *Fehufangą✉ Talk page 10:23, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thats easily fixed, thanks... Eptalon (talk) 10:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Greatest Generation[change source]

I have attempted to translate Greatest Generation into Simple English. Born from 1901 to 1927, these people grew up during hard times of the Great Depression and World War II, yet became very successful later in life, and had a huge influence on world culture and politics. Most of them have died already, but some still survive. Unfortunately, despite my efforts, I didn't do the best job simplifying the article, so it would be great if others are interested in helping! Thanks! Lights and freedom (talk) 06:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is probably too complex and could use work there. Besides this issue, it may be too focused on the US, but that is a consequence of the enwiki article. Lights and freedom (talk) 06:27, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]