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Questions about two articles[change source]

Dear All,
I made an article DJ Mixify and Khodadad Movaghar I want to know if it's possible to give the answer back to me if it will be delect or not I'm waiting since several days. (I hope it will not be delect ) Thanks a lot پریسا دارک لگ (talk) 20:00, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome. In general, we do not delete new articles if they are notable. The one about the General Khodadad Movaghar, probably is; I am not too sure about the first one you created about the DJ. In any case, most articles go through a deletion process, and the articles currently nominated can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for deletion. Since I cannot write Persian, adding interwiki links would be helpful, though. --Eptalon (talk) 20:20, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Dear All,
I made an article Jaleh Movaghar and I'm waiting , could you please tell me if it will be delect or not ? (I hope it will not be delect) . Another question please : about DJ Mixify Somebody told me Cinaps TV ans Télé Bocal it's too much local TV Channel and it 's no good as sources for Wikipedia but DJ will got on MTV Base America and MTV Itaie site (coming soon) an artiste page and even on MTV channel TV I want to know if it's possible to made then the article DJ Mixify . Thanks a lot Best پریسا دارک لگ (talk) 20:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I think it is a good idea to look at our deletion policy,as well as our page on notability. If an article fails the notability guideline, it will probably be deleted. For people, to be notable means that (among others) there are independent sources/articles about them. There might be an article in Arabic or Persian language wikipedia (sorry: I see the script is Arabic, but I can't tell which of the serveral languages that use the script it is; Urdu, and a few Indian languages also use the script). In short: use your favorite search engine, if you find the Simple English Wikipedia article among the first 10-15 hits, there is a good chance the subject is not notable enough. Best regards. --Eptalon (talk) 20:50, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Dear All,

 I wrote 3 articles : Parisa Music Mixify, Lea and Amirdcl , before writing my articles I read notability I choose 2 albums with a notable label and TV MTV Base Italie and Radios  but I'm not sure if those articles will be delect or not could you please give back the answer to me and tell me please ? Thanks a lot. 12:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)Aminnie


Hello, Is there anybody here , could you please answer for the article Parisa Music Mixify if every thing is all right for this article or if it will be delect ? I'm waiting since two days . Thanks a lot . پریسا دارک لگ (talk) 19:02, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


Dear All,

    I made an article Amir Mohammad Zand which was delect and I made again the article after reading Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia . Could you tell me if this time the article is correct and well enough to not be delect ? Thank you  Aminnie (talk) 20:56, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month[change source]

Is anyone interested in participating in the Wikipedia Asian Month edit-a-thon? Our Wikipedia is not signed up, but if anyone is interested in creating qualifying articles here, I would be willing to sign us up and be the organizer. Unless someone else would like to be an organizer, in which case I would work on some articles.

Basic info: The idea is to expand coverage of Asian topics. Anyone who creates at least four qualifying articles on a participating Wikipedia will receive a "specially designed Wikipedia postcard from other participating countries". Requirements for articles and other information are listed on the page linked above and in the Q&A.

If interested, please let me know ASAP so that we have as much time as possible before the edit-a-thon ends at the end of November. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:01, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

I think we need to stick to expanding everything on this Wikipedia, not focus on one topic. I can't speak for others, but I think we have enough work on our hands. DaneGeld (talk) 10:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, there is a lot we need to do. If we do it a topic at a time, there's nothing wrong with that. We have people who mostly work in their own area of interest: this isn't much different, except that it's part of a larger effort and there's the potential for small prizes. This is sort of a month-long version the "big weekends" we've done in the past, where we took a few days to improve specific areas, except the only prize for those was recognition. No one is required to participate. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I am interested. Artix Kreiger (talk) 14:11, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Cool. Do you want to be an organizer, or just create articles? (As I understand it, all articles submitted need to be approved by a local organizer: if we have only one organizer, then the organizer can't submit articles because they can't approve their own. Still, it's OK if you want to just create.) Be sure you're familiar with the parameters at the links above. Later today I'll work on getting us set up. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Slight delay: I had a minor emergency and it will be a day or two before I get us signed up. That won't hurt anything, though, because we have all month to submit articles. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:56, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Can't hurt to focus but I myself probably won't be taking part. -DJSasso (talk) 16:20, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I haven't found this edit-a-thon's list of suggested topics, but probably there'll be one of New Articles Created. This would be a good source of well-written, guaranteed-notable articles to simplify here. -- Deborahjay (talk) 06:58, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Good idea! I don't know that there will be a list of suggested topics, but the Q&A gives a small amount of guidance as to what qualifies and what doesn't. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:44, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Haven't gone through and looked but I am sure there are some Asia articles still not done on Wikipedia:List of articles all languages should have/Expanded/Geography as well as some on the people list if people are included. -DJSasso (talk) 17:54, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Well, whatever you decide to do, please enjoy it. I won't be participating personally, but for those of you who do, please don't forget those of us sweeping the corridors while you're wallpapering the lounge! :P DaneGeld (talk) 22:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Definitely interested! Zhangj1079 (Saluton!) Lest We Forget 23:01, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Category cleanup help...[change source]

Hello all,

I have developed my bot so that it can flag uncategorized pages, and that it recognizes pages that have categories that do not exist on our wiki. There is a new maintenance category Category:Pages with inexistent categories where these will be added, grouped by month.

I think this is a better solution than simply have the bot remove the inexistent category. Just wanted to let you know. --Eptalon (talk) 11:03, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Great idea. (But change "inexistent" to "nonexistent".) StevenJ81 (talk) 13:24, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Yup need to fix the category name as inexistent isn't a word. -DJSasso (talk) 16:21, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
I deleted the categories before I realized they were part of this effort. I will restore them and move them to the correct spelling. Questions:
  • Most of our maintenance cats are assigned by templates. Do we want to do that here instead of just adding the hardcoded category? Do we want separate templates for the two different issues?
  • When checking for uncategorized pages, does the bot recognize when there are cats that have been assigned by templates? There are a lot of pages whose only categories come from infoboxes.
Thanks for setting this up. It will be another tool to complement Special:WantedCategories. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:45, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
We already have a template and category for uncategorized pages called Template:Uncategorized and Category:Category needed. Missing, I am not sure we need to categorize. Personally I don't have an issue if some red categories stay for a little bit, I don't see the need for a bot to rapidly tag something because of that. Obviously they need to be cleaned up and removed/improved but that task isn't any more important than many others. To be honest I actually find red categories useful as they help to indicate when a new category needs to be created and used to watch them for that reason until people over the last few years started stripping them off everything. I really don't want to see maintenance categories hardcoded on pages, however. -DJSasso (talk) 17:50, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I regularly monitor Special:WantedCategories. Before I started, there were over 2,000 entries there. Nowadays it's usually around 70. I never blindly remove the redlinked cats. I evaluate to see if we have an equivalent differently-named cat that can be used, if the cat fits in our category system and can be created (if there are three entries that can go in it), and other things. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:01, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Yeah that is sort of my point. Special:WantedCategories has become useless because its always empty. When it had 2000 it would help us determine when to create categories. And I know you never blindly removed them, but it was good for situations where we had two articles and weren't quite ready to create the category for example. -DJSasso (talk) 18:04, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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I just wanted to clarify:

  1. The bot uses MediaWiki Library functions to get the categories a pages is assigned to, not WikiText. It gets a list of categories to work with; without loading the wikitext there is no way to know if a category is template-assigned, or not.
  2. The bot loads the wikitext for those pages it deemed to contain non-existent categories; it will then add the cleanup category ... for Month/Year as Wikitext to the page
  3. It will loop through all pages in the cleanup category, and remove the category for those pages that no longer contain inexistent categories
  4. It will flag pages with no categories with the 'uncat' template, dated as usual.
  5. I am able to assign the base name of the maintenance category freely, resp. month categories/counter categories/... will be created by the bot if they do not exist.
  6. I currently run the bot by hand, it uses either the recent changes or new pages list, which gets filtered, according to certain criteria. With a time window of 1 day, and 250 edits, a run takes in the order of 4-5 minutes.--Eptalon (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
You should not be adding hardcoded maintenance categories to articles like Category:Pages with nonexistent categories from November 2017. We don't put maintenance categories directly on pages, we use templates. -DJSasso (talk) 15:50, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
DJ, what you're saying, then, is that he should be dropping a template on the page instead. Frankly, I don't really have a problem with his adding the category directly, because what has to happen then is that the maintenance category be created, then the category moved from the original page, which is easy with HotCat. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't think the job he is doing should be done at all. But if he must do it yes it should be done with a template because that makes it easier for bots and such to deal with and is the standard, there is no reason to deviate from the standard for a single category. -DJSasso (talk) 15:56, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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I think the job needs doing, yes. And yes, using a template is probably easier to handle. As to the maintenance category not existing, I do not see a way around the bot creating them. ALso fixed the edit messages now. --Eptalon (talk) 16:03, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

New here[change source]

Hi, everyone

I am new here, though fairly experienced on regular en-wiki. I saw this new page tagged by filter as "copy/paste from another Wikipedia"? So what's the approach here about copying and attribution?. The above article is indeed copied directly as null citations exist throughout. Thanks. Ammarpad (talk) 16:57, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Computer Fizz, nice to meet you! Welcome the Simple English Wikipedia. A copy paste means, well, that they copied and pasted it from the regular english wikipedia and that it will not be very easy for everyone to understand. It has to be rewritten in Simple English, think of it as its own language. For example, the word "edit" will rarely be used here, except by humans, instead it says "change". This wiki is for people who are just learning english, and we have just over 100k articles if I recall correctly. If you have any questions, just ask me. :) Computer Fizz (talk) 17:02, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Transwiki attribution for full details. That page indicates the best practice for attribution. There are other ways you can do it but this is what we suggest. -DJSasso (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ammarpad and welcome to the Simple English Wikipedia! Thanks for your question. You can copy articles into this Wikipedia from the main English Wikipedia - all we ask is that they are made more simple by changing the words used. There is a template we use here which goes on the article's talk page, {{Enwp_based}}, which says that the article is based on a version from the English Wikipedia. It links to the particular version the work was taken from. DaneGeld (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Woow, thanks with all these welcoming responses. Three times I tried responding but each time I am caught in edit conflict "change conflict". So thank you all, you're doing great work here. Ammarpad (talk) 17:23, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
We also know that if you import a page here from enwiki, it might not be simplified immediately. If you put an {{Under construction}} template on it, we'll leave it alone until you finish simplifying. Alternatively, first bring it in as a subpage of your userpage, simplify it, then move it to its appropriate page in the mainspace. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, StevenJ81. Ammarpad (talk) 07:28, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month at Simple English Wikipedia is on![change source]

Thanks to those who expressed interest. Here is what you need to do to participate.

  • Go to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month and read the general info and rules.
  • Click on the "Sign up now" button to sign up as a contributor.
  • When you have an article to submit, go to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month, click on the "Submit contributions" button and follow the prompts. I haven't done that yet, so I don't know what the prompts are.

At some point, the organizer will look at submitted articles and determine whether they meet the edit-a-thon's rules. If so, they will be counted in the event. Currently, the only organizer for Simple English Wikipedia is me, but I'm hoping for at least one more so that I can submit articles, too.

That's all I know right now. I'm learning the process as I go. If you have any questions not answered at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month or in the Q&A that's linked from there, let me know and I'll see if I can find answers.

Happy editing! --Auntof6 (talk) 02:38, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

@Auntof6: I'd love to organize, but I'd like to know if there are any requirements for organizing. Zhangj1079 (Saluton!) Lest We Forget 02:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Here's the page that describes the organizers' responsibilities. I think I've done everything in the first section. The middle section is things to do during November. The last section is things to after November, including checking all the submissions. Really, though, I wouldn't mind doing most of the work if you just wanted to be available to check whatever I submit (since organizers can't check their own submissions). --Auntof6 (talk) 03:02, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Of course. That's perfectly fine. The more contributions the better! Zhangj1079 (Saluton!) Lest We Forget 03:03, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Cool. So if you want to be an organizer, please add your name where mine is at meta:Wikipedia Asian Month 2017 and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

massmessage issue[change source]

It appears that no massmessage messages have ever successfully been delivered on this wiki. See: Special:Log/massmessage. This was brought to my attention on #wikipedia-tech IRC by Danegeld, my comments are that there is probably an issue with the setup configuration of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassMessage A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver (talk) 22:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the pickup! I have left a message about it on the Administrator's noticeboard. Hopefully, I have given the right message, since I was concentrating on the other thing too, but I think you said about reinstalling the MassMessage extension. DaneGeld (talk) 22:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Well according to User:Legoktm (an actual expert) the idea I came up with is 'entirely wrong' so before we needlessly fiddle with the settings we should see what he has to say, although it is clearly an issue. A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver (talk) 08:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
I don't believe it is necessarily mass message. The wiki just has hickups once in awhile and is in read only mode for a couple minutes. Looks like mass message just happened to try and write during one of those times. But I am no expert so I may be wrong. I would point out that log is just failures. Mass message delivers here all the time. -DJSasso (talk) 17:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that's my suspicion as well. But that many read-only errors seems abnormal, so I filed phab:T180378 for further investigation. Legoktm (talk) 17:44, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Template Infobox French commune[change source]

Why has changed so much the display of the Template:Infobox French commune? Now the display in Simple Wikipedia is very different from the one in English Wikipedia. --Jmarcano (talk) 13:34, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Most likely because the page hasn't been updated with the en.wiki code in about 4 years so likely somewhere there was a template that wasn't the same as what en.wiki used causing the commune template to look different. I have brought everything I could find up to date now so I will see if it fixed it. -DJSasso (talk) 17:45, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
Everything looks good to me now, if there is something specific you aren't seeing let me know. I should also note that it may be that the infoboxes on the individual pages may be out of date and need to be synched with what is currently on the en version which is why I always recommend anyone editing info in infoboxes grab the latest infobox on en.wiki and update on both wikis so both are correct. -DJSasso (talk) 17:55, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Does this wiki need new admins?[change source]

I am curious since most of the admin actions come from maybe 5 admins. Artix Kreiger (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

No if anything we still have too many (total number active/inactive) for a wiki this size. There really isn't a lot that ever needs doing by admins so having more of them isn't a pressing concern. -DJSasso (talk) 18:22, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Questions about joining WAM 2017[change source]

Hello

I would like to participate in the Wikipedia Asian Month. I'm currently writing an English article about an anime (a type of Japanese shows) character and I plan on translating it into Arabic.

My questions are:

1) Does writing about an anime character count as a suitable article topic for Asian Month? 2) If I write this article then translate it into Arabic, does that count as 2 articles? 3) How do I submit my article? Do I just submit it here (https://tools.wmflabs.org/fountain/editathons/asian-month-2017-en/add)? Or do I have to join a community or something because I read that my community or my Wikipedia has to be registered or something and honestly I did not understand that?

Also, If you can direct me to a place I can get anime pictures that I can use on Wikipedia without getting my article deleted then that would be great.

Thanks a bunch. --Langotaku (talk) 16:37, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Langotaku: I suspect you meant to ask this on English Wikipedia (this is Simple English Wikipedia), but I will try to answer your questions:
  1. Writing about an anime character: I'm not sure if that would count. I think it would depend on exactly what is in the article. You could ask the organizers on the Wikipedias where you plan to submit the articles.
  2. Articles on two different Wikipedias: If you create an article in two different Wikipedias, it would count on both of them, even if one is a translation of the other. To reach the four-article requirement for receiving postcards, articles are totaled separately, so you must create four articles on the each Wikipedia.
  3. Where to submit articles: The link you gave is for submitting articles for English Wikipedia. English Wikipedia is set up for WAM, but Arabic Wikipedia is not. The list of Wikipedias that have signed up is at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017
Wikimedia Commons has images that can be used on Wikipedia. You can find anime images at c:Category:Anime. That is the only place to get images that are all OK to use.
I hope that helps. If you have further questions, please ask at a Wikipedia where you plan to submit articles, because each one might be doing things a little differently. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:53, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Thanks a lot. That really helped. I'll try asking in the English Wikipedia too.

New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers[change source]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)