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Removal of fraction symbols from MediaWiki:Edittools[change source]

Per en:MOS:FRAC, specific Unicode fraction characters are discouraged from use on-wiki. Due to the limited choices of "special" fraction characters available, it also leads to issues with one article potentially containing differing renderings of fractions:

  • Unicode: ½, ¼, (specific 22/7 character not available in Unicode)
  • MathML: , ,
  • {{frac}}: 12, 14, 227
  • {{sfrac}}: 1/2, 1/4, 22/7
    • enclosed within {{math}}: 1/2, 1/4, 22/7

To keep in line with the MOS, I propose that these special characters:

½ ⅓ ⅔ ¼ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞

be removed from MediaWiki:Edittools (and substituted with a link to insert their template equivalents) so that they don't appear in the special character palette below the wikicode editor. Chenzw  Talk  04:08, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

  • No objection to the change. It's not clear to me exactly where you are talking about, however, as the link doesn't seem to take me to a place where there are any math tools. Etamni | ✉   08:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
    • Oops, I forgot about this all the while–the character palette is hidden by default. Until there is a gadget for toggling visibility, you can insert the below in your personal CSS file (either common.css or monobook/vector.css, depending on the skin you are using):
#editpage-specialchars {

--Chenzw  Talk  02:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I guess nobody else has any opinion on this, Chenzw. I'd say go ahead and boldly change it (if you haven't already) -- if it creates a problem, it can be fixed. Etamni | ✉   17:06, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Alright, I have made the changes. I am not sure what was the original reasoning behind hiding the character palette by default, but anyway, I have set up a gadget to toggle the visibility of the palette (essentially the same thing as my code snippet above). It's called "CharInsert" under "Editing gadgets". The palette is quite useful sometimes. Chenzw  Talk  11:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Helpful things to do when you create a new article (or work on an old one)[change source]

Here are some easy things that would improve a lot of our articles:

  • Images: Add an image from Wikimedia Commons. If the article has an infobox, you might be able to include it in that infobox. If not, a good place to put it is usually at the very top of the article (unless the image is more relevant to a specific section). You can even put a "gallery" (an assortment of images) in an article. If you're not familiar with Wikimedia Commons, take a look to see what it has to offer.
  • Sister project links: Include links to information in sister projects. This could include a Wikimedia Commons category for the subject, or a page in another sister project. For a list of possible sister projects, look at the "Sister projects" section near the bottom of our main page. Category:Sister project templates contains templates that can be used for this. The documentation for those templates may have information on where to put them in an article, and there's also information at en:WP:MOSSIS.
  • Interwiki links: Link an article with the corresponding articles in other Wikipedias. This is now done through Wikidata but you don't have to go to Wikidata to take care of it. I have some instructions here on how to do this. Those instructions might look a little long, but it's not that bad when you actually do it. It's good to take care of this any time you bring an article here from another Wikipedia.

If you have questions on any of this, feel free to ask. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:43, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Should we remove patroller and rollbacker rights from long-inactive users?[change source]

I've started a discussion here. Feel free to comment. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:05, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposed abuse filter[change source]

I think that if a page has been deleted, you must be autoconfirmed to recreate it, enforced by an abuse filter.

Also, not sure if this second one is possible, but maybe it would only look at deletions in the past month or so?
What do people think of this idea? I can test syntax on my local wiki Krett12 (talk) 05:38, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Is this a solution looking for a problem? Pages that continually get recreated can be create-protected (autoconfirmed or full). It would take a script of some kind to limit it to 30 days, but I'm not sure we have that much trouble of this kind here. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:14, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the above is beyond the capabilities of the abuse filter. Chenzw  Talk  13:54, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Undelete[change source]

Could someone please undelete my user page?

More details please.--Peterdownunder (talk) 00:53, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Done. (By the way, this request belonged at WP:AN, not here.) Please remember to sign your posts. @Peterdownunder: His userpage was deleted a while back. In the meantime, what people saw there was coming from his meta user page. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Ah, that makes sense now :). --Peterdownunder (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Achraf Baznani[change source]

Hi there!

I introduced on the Achraf Baznani page some information about plagiarism with reliable references. An IP deleted those infos.

I usually work on WP:fr, and we had lots of problems with the same pages... Could someone check it? I'm not very comfortable with the english wikisyntax (it took me nearly half an hour to add two lines and their reference^^).

Best regards,
Heddryin [🔊] 03:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)