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Harassment consultation[change source]

Please help translate to your language

The Community Advocacy team the Wikimedia Foundation has opened a consultation on the topic of harassment on Meta. The consultation period is intended to run for one month from today, November 16, and end on December 17. Please share your thoughts there on harassment-related issues facing our communities and potential solutions. (Note: this consultation is not intended to evaluate specific cases of harassment, but rather to discuss the problem of harassment itself.)

Regards, Community Advocacy, Wikimedia Foundation
What does it take to get this section/topic archived? Etamni | ✉   16:25, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
A proper date and time in a signature. Now that there is one (in your post, and mine), it will get archived in time. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 :) Yep! Etamni | ✉   16:44, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

School project coming soon[change source]

Just a note that there will be a school project Monday, February 22, 2016 from 4:00pm-6:00pm UTC. This will be the fourth such project coordinated by Castilibrary. I will be acting as ambassador for the project, so if there are any problems, queries etc., please direct them to either Castilibrary or myself. I will post further information as soon as it is available.--Peterdownunder (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Here is last year's project Wikipedia:Schools/Projects/Notable Female Authors for those who are curious about the quality and usefulness of the project.--Peterdownunder (talk) 11:07, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Since this section will get archived before then, would you give us a reminder closer to that date? --Auntof6 (talk) 16:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
I will post a reminder, and direct editors to the project page when it is created.--Peterdownunder (talk) 11:35, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Copying[change source]

Can we copy info from other Wikipedias, such as the English Wikipedia? PokestarFan (talk) 21:30, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but you have to put the text in Simple English. And, you have to attribute the original source. //nepaxt 22:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
There's some good information on how to do this at Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia. If you happen to copy from a non-English Wikipedia, never use an automated translation without checking it over -- automated translations are notoriously poor. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Template:Cite magazine[change source]

On EnWiki, there is a template with the name "Cite magazine" which does not seem to exist here (the blue link here takes you to the template on EnWiki). I was working on an article (Flexagon) which has citations that rely on this template on EnWiki. Rather than reformat the citations, I think it would be a good idea to bring that template over to Simple. It uses Lua modules which I am not as familiar with as regular templates, so rather than boldly creating the template here, I thought it best to discuss first. Etamni | ✉   20:58, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Etamni: You can create it as a redirect it to {{Cite journal}} and it should work fine. I can't really tell from the module what exactly changed, but up until Lua was implemented, the template on enwiki was just a redirect. Osiris (talk) 08:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
@Osiris: Done. And it seems to have worked. Thanks. Etamni | ✉   09:08, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Fox tail as energy store[change source]

The fox article says that a fox's tail is a "food store for wintertime". Something like a camel's hump storing water? I'm pretty sure that is nonsense, but the article is protected so I can't remove it. 94.12.81.251 (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

It was added a few years ago. Macdonald-ross, are you able to find a source for it? Google has a very low signal-to-noise ratio for anything related to a fox and its tail. Chenzw  Talk  15:49, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, our page is really about the genus Vulpes of which there are 11 species. No matter how northern they are, none of them hibernates. Instead, they continue to catch prey, but at a much diminished rate in winter. They do add fat (and longer fur) in winter. Is it disproportionately added to the tail? So far, I do not see a relevant ciation. Our photo of the Arctic fox certainly looks like it is carrying round a pretty hefty tail. I think the wording on the Fox page is now defensible. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Weird error or phishing attempt on Wikipedia[change source]

When I click on the link to my userpage right now, I am getting an error message that starts at the top with "Wikimedia Foundation" followed by a claim that the servers are having a technical problem, a statement that there may be more info available on IRC, followed by a donation request. The same message is repeated in multiple languages. At the very bottom is a "PHP Fatal Error" message. I suspect it's not what it seems. The URL is correct, but something is fishy. Especially when I can search for my declared alt account ("Etamni-m" which redirects to my main user page) and it takes me right there without any error message. (And on the off-chance that the message is legitimate, the foundation really needs to rethink the donation request on the error page as this makes the message look like something a social engineer (i.e. a scam artist) would have written.) Etamni | ✉   18:07, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Are you still getting the error? I accessed your user page just now with no problems, so it could have been a temporary glitch. The donation request on the error page issue is best brought up at Meta: m:Requests for comment probably. I personally didn't know that WMF now appeals for donations on the server error page. Chenzw  Talk  00:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I was not home to try accessing the account again until now, but all seems to be working correctly. If it happens again, I'll screenshot the message and then test what happens when I log in via my mobile account. Etamni | ✉   08:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Definitions of 'Property'[change source]

I could use some help at Talk:Material property from sciencey editors. Osiris (talk) 03:51, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Block 69.115.75.25[change source]

Can we blcok the IP "69.115.75.25" for 1 week for copying articles from EN wikipedia without simplyfing them? Thanks, PokestarFan (talk) 04:08, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

@69.115.75.25:Note:Pinging user
This IP has already been blocked. Please report such cases to WP:VIP in future. Also, why would you ask for a block after you have already warned the IP, and the IP has not edited any more after your warnings? Chenzw  Talk  04:15, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Besides that, we usually wouldn't block for a week for a first-time block. When you report a user who might get blocked, leave it to the admins to decide how long the block should be. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Ok
As another mention related to this; IP users cannot be notified by ping. Notifications are for registered users of Wikipedia and other MediaWiki sites (those with usernames). (See en:WP:PING, the FAQ page). We have the {{Talkback}} template, which I used here: [[1]], for example to talk to an IP about content on another page they might not see. Fylbecatulous talk 22:01, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

New MediaWiki feature: Catwatch[change source]

This new option lets you see when something is added to or removed from a category. (Previously, putting a category in your watchlist only told you if someone changed the category page.) You activate it separately for the "new changes" page and for your watchlist.

To activate this new feature, go to your settings (the tab at the top of the page), to the tabs for "New changes" and "Watchlist". The option is "Hide categorization of pages". It defaults to off (meaning things will work as they always have). To activate the new feature, uncheck the check box on either or both tabs. There's also a new option on the new changes and watchlist pages to show or hide page categorization: I think you have to have unchecked the relevant checkbox on the preferences tabs for those to have any effect.

So try it out and see what you think. Just be aware that if you pick a category that gets a lot of activity, you might flood your watchlist. And please don't add things to categories just to test this. You could test by adding Category:Stubs to your watchlist: you should see a few changes that were made in the last hour.

There's some documentation and examples of what it looks like at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CategoryMembershipChanges. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:21, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

A couple of good uses I've found for this:

Yes, we already have places to find all these, but you might see them sooner this way. It's just one more tool. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Special Page request[change source]

I want to request a special page(Special:IPChanges because most vandalism comes from ips. It will log only IP changes. PokestarFan (talk) 19:44, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

What's wrong with Special:RecentChanges? --Lithorien (talk) 19:46, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes. Just go to the new changes page (which Lithorien linked above) and click on the option to hide registered users. I don't think we can create new special pages: they're determined by the software. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

QD log[change source]

Hi, how does one create a Quick Deletion nominations log? Thanks, Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 16:15, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

It's a Twinkle option -- when activated, it's populated when you use Twinkle to request a QD. Go to the quick deletion section at Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences and check the checkbox for "Keep a log in userspace of all QD nominations". --Auntof6 (talk) 16:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Thanks! --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 16:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Big Reference Weekend[change source]

Hello all – after discussing the idea with a few members of the community, I would like to revive the WP:Big Weekend project for a new event: the Big Reference Weekend! For people who do not know about the Big Weekends, they were built on teamwork to improve or create articles of a chosen topic.

What I am suggesting is that we focus on articles in Category:All_articles_with_unsourced_statements, finding suitable references for the unchecked facts, and removing as many Citation Needed tags as possible!

The project would run from Friday 19 February 11AM UTC until Monday 22 February 11AM UTC (in order to allow all timezones to benefit from the whole weekend). If you would like to contribute to the project, feel free to add a comment below saying you will participate, but of course you don't have to do so. Anyone, even ip users, can participate!

To make it easier to keep track of our efforts, I suggest that you include BW in the edit summary when you edit. This will help us count the number of edits and pages we have improved. In the next few days, I will post a further message on how to reference articles correctly. Watch this page if you are interested. All best, happy editing and I hope to see many people participate! --Yottie =talk= 22:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

  • Join - I intend on joining this project. It sounds really, really fun. --Lithorien (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
  • I won't be able to join (I'm not usually online much on weekends), but I'm excited to see this starting up! Only (talk) 23:18, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm in! --Auntof6 (talk) 23:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Well, first, Wikipedia talk:Big Weekend is the place to have this discussion. And I do have some doubts. The enthusiasm for BWs tailed off notably, and I honestly cannot see fixing pages with no sources as a hot item for most editors! Many are not capable of doing the detailed work needed to check sources and select those which suit our pages. They will probably just copy/paste whatever they find on En wiki.
    Previously, we chose topics on the basis of "here's something everyone can do", so bridges, airports, forests etc. The idea was that everyone has some of those right near them, and can put them into the wiki. Actually, about 95% or more of the editing here is on biographies and pop culture. We might think about "do five people from your country who should be better known" or some such. BWs to be popular have to tap a wide range of tastes, and be easy to do. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:18, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Big Weekend#Big Reference Weekend 2016--Peterdownunder (talk) 10:45, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

New template idea[change source]

Hello everyone. I had an idea for a new template for landmark U.S. Supreme Court cases. I put it in user space because I'd like the opinion of more seasoned editors on if the template would be useful for the encyclopedia, and if it's possible to create a "standard" list considering that a "landmark" case can be considered subjective no matter how much law scholars agree on its significance. I have not yet included all the cases that I am finding to be considered landmark, but I wanted to get a consensus before putting more effort into it. Thank you! --Lithorien (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Note to patrollers and others[change source]

The other day we had a couple of settlement articles created that I deleted because I believed they were hoaxes. They were for Glenwood, Mississippi and Chicago, Oklahoma. I couldn't find mention of these anywhere.

Be aware that people may be creating other, similar hoax articles. These can be hard to recognize, partly because we assume all settlements to be notable and we don't require much info in the article. If you see a new, minimal settlement article, you might want to verify it before patrolling it. In the process of verifying it, it would be helpful to add any references you happen upon so that others looking at the article can see that there is evidence that the place actually exists. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:46, 13 February 2016 (UTC)