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Question[change source]

If I do something like this again, am I able to fully close it out myself? If so, are the templates to be used just the {{subst:archive top}} and {{subst:archive bottom}}, then move it to the recently closed area? I don't want to cost you more time if it happens again. Operator873talkconnect 05:28, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

You can do it yourself. Here is what you need to do to close a request as kept:
  • Remove the noinclude tags around the {{in progress}} template.
  • Change the {{in progress}} template to something like {{kept|reason}}. The reason can be "withdrawn by nominator", "request created in error", or whatever.
  • Put your signature right after that template.
  • Put the substituted archive top and archive bottom templates at the top and bottom, respectively.
  • Move the request to the recently closed section.
  • Take the rfd template off of the page that was nominated.
  • If you ever do a close of one that wasn't in error, where the discussion was complete and the consensus was to keep, add the {{oldrfdfull}} template to the talk page of the nominated page.
  • If the page creator was notified about the request, either leave a note that it was done in error or remove the notification.
I think that's it. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:49, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
And it didn't take me that much time -- closing a request is kind of second nature at this point. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:51, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Operator873talkconnect 15:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Template deletion[change source]

Hi am requesting that this Template:Wikipedia books‎ be deleted again. Chabota (talk) 16:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@Icem4k: Please use one of the standard ways of requesting deletion: quick deletion or RfD. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:00, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Alright thank you. Chabota (talk) 17:02, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

notability tag on Catherine Breillat[change source]

The enwiki article for Catherine Breillat doesn't have any awards listed for her. How else can I make a notability for this particular person? --Angela Maureen (talk) 23:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@September 1988: Well, you based the article on the enwiki article, right? Go back to the enwiki article, find what makes her notable, and include that (with references) in the article here. You may have shortened the article too much: articles here do not have to be short.
Also, when you base an article here on an enwiki article, you must include attribution. If you don't, it's a copyright violation and the article here can be deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:23, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Category[change source]

Hello. One article is missing from Category:Basshunter albums because one of the administrators deleted it irresponsibly. Back to Category:Basshunter, is it enough to add template right now? I can write articles about singles probably in longer perspective. Eurohunter (talk) 08:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Eurohunter: Please don't use my talk page to accuse other admins of being irresponsible. If an article was deleted that you think should have been kept, you can use WP:Deletion review to ask for the decision to be revisited. I'd advise you not to make accusations there, either, just to make a straightforward case for restoring without attacking anyone.
As for your question, I don't understand what you're asking. What template are you talking about, and what kind of add are you talking about? --Auntof6 (talk) 12:07, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
No I don't. I'm waiting for article restoration and just I told how it is. Administrator can't abuse his rights deleteding any page at any time saying page not meets the notablity criteria if article meets them very well what took place. Here is example of template contained in the category. Eurohunter (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
@Eurohunter: You mean categorizing a template into the category? Yes, that would be OK and would make the required three entries. If you're copying the template from English Wikipedia, just be sure it's adjusted for here if necessary.
As for your comments about the deleted article, please remember to assume good faith. Have you asked for the article to be restored? It's possible that you and the admin have different views on what constitutes notability. Try using the deletion review process so that a different admin looks at it. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
I already explained him the situation and waiting for his answer. Thanks. Eurohunter (talk) 13:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Help Review EN Draft[change source]

Dear user:Auntof6. Can you help review this article Draft:Joseph Kalimbwe about a Namibian Activist & Author on EN Wikipedia. I acknowledge it having been removed for recreation. It has since been radically edited from a previous version which in view played a key role in its deletion. Check previous version and current. Also help View this one similar one of South Africa Activist Mcebo Dlamini both on EN.

Should you see need to re-edit, do find here [1] [2] Best 197.233.102.162 (talk) 21:38, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Your link to the article you want reviewed doesn't work. Keep in mind that this wiki doesn't have a "Draft" namespace like enwiki does. In any case, I don't have time to review an article right now. You might want to ask at Simple talk. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:50, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

references on articles (other than person-related)[change source]

Why do most articles need references? (I already know why people-related articles need references, so I'm leaving that out.) I'm talking car-related, hurricane-related, movie-related or song-related. Is it for notability reasons?

Angela Maureen (talk) 15:30, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Have you ever read the magazine Reader's Digest? Most of what's in it is articles taken from other sources -- that's why it's called "digest". With each article is a statement of where the original article was published, which shows that Reader's Digest isn't plagiarizing the information or trying to make it look like they created the article.
Wikipedia is like that. Information in Wikipedia articles is supposed to come from reliable sources, not from what people personally know. The main reason for references is to show where information in an article comes from. That lets people evaluate the source of the information for themselves, go to the source if they want more information, and know that an article isn't original research. (Original research isn't allowed in Wikipedia.)
There are some things that are considered inherently notable. Just the fact that they exist makes them notable. These include settlements. Even though they are automatically notable, the articles about them should still have references to show that they really exist(ed) and to support specific facts in them (such as population figures). There has been at least one case where someone created an article about a settlement that never existed, and the fake article wasn't caught right away. People bring that up a lot when they're criticizing Wikipedia.
The main difference with articles about people is that the subject of the article (or their estate, if they are dead) can sue Wikipedia if an article says anything negative or controversial about them. Any such statements should be referenced appropriately. That is why there are even special guidelines for categorizing people by ethnicity, gender, religion, sexuality, and disability.
en:WP:WHYCITE has more good information on this. I hope this has answered your question. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I can only show how other encycopedias do it; for example the "Stanford Encyclopedia of Philiosophy" - Yes, it is online, freely available, and only for philosophy-related topics. Mosat of the things we know about Zeno of Elea are about his three paradoxes. Look at The page at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philiosophy, and click on "Bibliography". YOu'll see there are many texts/articles/publications that are the base of the aricle. Another entry: Sorites Paradox (One grain of Wheat does not make a heap, so 2 don't, so 1 million don't either... -> there is no heap.. :) )- Just illustration, and perhaps not the right branch for your liking..--Eptalon (talk) 19:27, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Notice[change source]

Hello I just noticed you deleted a page i created Joseph C Kalimbwe. I request you revist your decision this is because this character is an active participant in Namibian Youth Political Movement representing majority marginalised poor black Namibian Youth. Also, the Affirmative Repositioning Movement for which he represents has a majority youth masses following and partakes in National issues of land redistribution among Namibians. I ask you revisit your decision and undelete it.

Also I created in the same vain similar articles of black African Youths that make part of our representation and stand for nobles causes. Do see the difference as these fall under one category

Do review undelete as this black history does meet Notability requirements to be here.

MyPeople76 (talk) 04:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@MyPeople76: I just looked at the article again, and I still don't think it shows notability. If you would like the deletion reviewed, you can request that at WP:Deletion review. I would restore it and create an RfD instead, but an article about that person was already deleted via RfD.
Please note that the requirement is that the article show notability, not just that the subject be notable: the notability has to be indicated in the article. (When I say notable, I mean according to Wikipedia's definition of notability, not anyone's personal definition.) Also, notability is not "inherited": in this case, that means that the organizations might be notable but the individual people might not be. Being a member of a notable group does not automatically make a person notable.
Thank you for the list of related articles. I will look at them to see if they show notability. If I think they don't, I will put them at RfD instead of quickly deleting them. That will give time for a discussion. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:26, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
user:Auntof6 I understand you but like in Mcebo Dlamini, Busisiwe C Seabe, Chumani Maxwelle and the one you deleted Joseph C Kalimbwe notability is shown in these similar articles. These are individuals who are constantly in pursuit of social justice for the majority of black young Africans who are constantly excluded by laws of Apartheid tactics still gripping the public system in both South Africa and Namibia. And it's not about inherited notability, it's the character being in the constant national debate which are accessible. I noticed the previous one weeks back of Joseph C Kalimbwe wasn't done accordingly hence its removal. In this instance, I corrected the one I made. --MyPeople76 (talk) 06:48, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@MyPeople76: Then we disagree about whether notability is shown. That's OK: That's what RfD and deletion review are for, to get more input. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:09, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
user:Auntof6 I do appreciate your work. Because you are one of the helpful admins according to your contributions - that worth of appreciation if no one said it. But I am not in anyway disputing, i meant both these articles Mcebo Dlamini, Chumani Maxwelle, Joseph C Kalimbwe & Busisiwe C Seabe one and the same as they represent similar characters and shown in the articles themselves. That's why I see no reason as to why Joseph C Kalimbwe must not be here as it was changed from its previous done-well done version and they (all articles) are shown in similar content and provide an analysis of the character's stance for reform MyPeople76 (talk) 07:21, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@MyPeople76: It's probably just because no one has patrolled them yet. I only looked at the one I recently deleted because I knew it had been through RfD before. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:27, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, also like I said, I agree with it having been deleted on RfD because it was honestly not done well. But in this instance, i do not agree with the removal of Joseph C Kalimbwe as its information and structure from the one at RfD was completely different and still fits in the category of the kept Mcebo Dlamini and Chumani Maxwelle MyPeople76 (talk) 07:43, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

A concern of mine[change source]

Hey there! First off, I will wholly and readily admit I am a changes watcher... I watch the cvn channels on IRC quite closely, in fact. Lately, I've noticed the articles I've tagged for QD aren't always deleted with the same reason code. (Skipping to the short version) I'm concerned I'm making mistakes. Tonight, I tagged an article as vandalism (I think) and you deleted it as G4. Should I be using G4 if a name is mentioned at all (attack pages, not included)? Is the difference between the tag I chose and the delete you executed due to your appraisal of the article with no reflection on the tag I chose? There's also a good chance I may be over-thinking this. I value your thoughts and wanted to know your opinion. Thank you, again, in advance. Operator873talkconnect 05:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@Operator873: It's a judgment call. In many cases, there are multiple QD options that could apply, and I pick the one that I think fits best. The one you picked might also apply, but I thought a different one was better. Or, yes, it might be that I thought the one you picked didn't apply. Since administrators do the deleting, we are responsible for picking appropriate reasons. If you give me a specific article name, I can look at it and see why I picked a different option. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:57, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Please help[change source]

Being swamped by vandalism right now and really need someone to help and check VIP etc. Thanks! Milo, Talk, Contribs 09:18, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

watch over this[change source]

don't allow this talk page to be reverted by vandal antandrus who never, ever contributes just reverts simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Martial_arts&action=history however if u rv it, im ok with it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martialartisthere (talkcontribs) 15:49, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Task complete[change source]

All 1,523 articles in that category have been fixed. Do you have anything on your "to-do" list that I can help out with? Operator873talkconnect 19:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Operator873: Be careful what you ask for! My to-do list is to clean up everything in Category:Wikipedia backlog and Category:Wikipedia cleanup categories! You could look around in those and see if there's anything that interests you. If you like working on deprecated parameters, you can also look in Category:Deprecated parameters for more stuff. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)