User talk:Auntof6

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Default Sort[change source]

I did one today I am not sure of. I have the names and such down, but this does not start with an "A" or "The"

{{DEFAULTSORT:Phineas and Ferb The Movie: Candace Against the Universe}}. I did not know how else to put it. So I wanted to make sure I did it right and if not, I can go back and correct it to what you say it should be. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 02:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PotsdamLamb: I wouldn't normally put a defaultsort in that one, but enwiki says "Hyphens, apostrophes and periods/full stops are the only punctuation marks that should be kept in sort values." So you could remove the colon. Generally, a defaultsort should be added only if the article title isn't acceptable for sorting for some reason. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok so should I just removed it completely then based on the above about what you would do and when it should be added? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 02:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: I would remove it, but others would leave it but take out the colon. You choose. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I removed it. Thank you for the advice. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 03:43, 28 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cat-a-lot[change source]

I installed Cat-a-lot in my common.js, but I don't see the button in the bottom right of the category pages. Do you think I might have done something wrong? Or is it only available to administrators here? Lights and freedom (talk) 21:52, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Lights and freedom: It should be available for everyone. Did you clear your cache after installing? -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lights and freedom: Also, part of what you installed are user preferences. You might want different preferences than I have, but the ones I have shouldn't cause a problem. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:03, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page stalker) I had the problem as well. I had to completely flush everything and log out of wp, then log back in and it appeared for me. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:04, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I see it now. I just copied the preferences from the WMcommons page about cat-a-lot, I didn't modify them. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:22, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lights and freedom: By the way, I'll offer a caveat about using Cat-a-lot with templates, in case you're thinking of doing that. Cat-a-lot won't always work properly with templates, because of two things:
  • Templates are usually categorized via the doc page, not on the template page itself, so Cat-a-lot can't find them to do anything.
  • When a template is categorized on the main page, the categories are between noinclude tags. Cat-a-lot doesn't respect the noinclude tags, so you could find it adding a category outside of those tags, depending on what you're doing.
You may have seen me use Cat-a-lot to recategorize some templates a little while ago. It worked because the categories were on the template and I was changing categories, not adding any. It usually works for deleting as well, but not for adding. So for templates, if you're not completely sure how it's going to work, it's best not to use Cat-a-lot.
If you have any questions about this, feel free to ask. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, I won't use Cat-a-lot for templates. I'm not sure how they should be sorted anyway. Some editors have been removing them from the content categories. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bot is functional[change source]

Hi there Auntof6! I am proud to say that after some manual runs and it鈥檚 first automated run the PDLBotArchiver(talk contribs deleted聽contribs page聽moves block聽user block聽log) did exactly what it is supposed to do. It does not require changing anything to an existing Miszabot/config on a page it is already on and is exclusion compliant. I cannot archive Simple talk without community consensus or any other public page without the consensus if it has an allow only (like ST does) 鈥nd I would put my bot in the list if consensus is reached without removing any other bot鈥 or a denybot, however, if it already has the config setup with no bot restrictions, then I can. For user TP鈥檚 I can inform them of the bot is now setup if they would like to archive their page and direct them to the page that shows how to do that and also how to opt out. It does appear your newsletters were archived on the fully automated run if you would like to take a look. Thank you as always. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 04:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just saw your message on the BRFA and since it鈥檚 approved I wanted to just move that over here. Yes that would be great. Any public pages or talk pages using {{bots}} or the deny all version of that but I believe just the bots should cover all of them including the ones that are locked down to just SassoBot like ST is. I appreciate your offer and gladly accept it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 04:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: Out of all the pages that transclude User:MiszaBot/config, I found none that contain either {{nobots}} or Allow=SassoBot. If that isn't what you were looking for, let me know. I have a list of everything that invokes User:MiszaBot/config, so I can easily run another pass. -- Auntof6 (talk) 05:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Funny because Simple Talk should have come up at least. It has bots|allow=SassoBot with the {} around it. I didn鈥檛 want to tl it on your page because I don鈥檛 want any unexpected issues. Since there are different various ways of doing it, maybe a search on all of them needs to be done? I鈥檒l leave that up to you. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 05:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: I'll check it again in a bit. I'm in the middle of something else right now. -- Auntof6 (talk) 05:34, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No worries or hurry. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 05:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: OK, I don't know what I did wrong the first time, but now I'm finding that one. I also found User talk:Quantocius Quantotius, which is a soft redirect to the user's meta talk page. It does make sense to set up archiving on a soft redirect talk page, because talk can still be left on such pages (would probably be mostly by automated processes). -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So that editor opted out of all bots and mass messages so there isn鈥檛 a need for the config to even be on there. It could even be a hard redirect in my opinion but that would be up to them. But with the allow=none means no bots can touch it which I find odd on a soft redirect as nothing is posted on it lol. So that鈥檚 good if they are the only 2 pages. So I just need the consensus for ST then unless @Chenzw just wants to flat out approve me to run next to SassoBot. I鈥檓 able to archive all other public discussions without issue and if we find some in the future I think we can deal with it at the point. Thoughts? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 06:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: I wouldn't say there is no reason for the config to be there. There is always the possibility of a message being left on the page by something like a QD or RFD request -- those aren't done by bots or mass messages, but by individual users. Also, according to the documentation on the enwiki copy of the template (ours doesn't have it -- might need updating), there are some things that can't be opted out, so there are things that can still be posted on the page even if it's a (soft) redirect.
As for your bot starting to archive pages regularly, I'm trying to stay out of that discussion. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh that鈥檚 right I forgot about that part but does it apply to redirected talk pages? As far as the bot, I was just letting you know so whenever you wanted to put your config back on, if allowed, it would pick it up and archive for you. The conversation is complete as the bot is approved. For the ST it is just a yes or no if I can add it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 07:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: Yes, it applies to redirected talk pages. I don't think the automated processes that would leave messages would see the redirects, and they certainly wouldn't follow the redirect to Meta-Wiki to leave a message.
I'm going to wait a while before putting the archiving back on my talk page. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Interesting. And ok. I was able to get the template that had 68 links to it moved over today and got it linked without the portals that kept throwing errors. So that鈥檚 68 articles fixed plus I got a few of the smaller ones done too. Those smaller ones have a specific source used and is called when it comes to the transportation options in London. So slowly chipping away at it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 08:01, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: OK. When bringing over templates, be sure to give some thought to whether the template is actually needed. Just getting it off the list might not be a good reason to create it here. Sometimes the better option is to eliminate references to the template. Or one of the other things I listed as ways to resolve a "missing" template without creating a page. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All of these pages to the particular template were about the London transportation system and embedded into them were various data pulls based on what variables were put in like for exits = so the template had all of the and the link to the portal. I was able to get all the link issues resolved and I was able to remove the portal link so now the Infobox is properly filled and not full of red and saying invalid ref invalid temp etc. there are other I looked at I know I won鈥檛 be bringing over as they effect only one or two articles and I should be able to strip out what鈥檚 needed to complete the article. I also made sure they were in the proper category. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 08:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Purge of page[change source]

Hi again. On Special:WantedTemplates it supposedly updated, however, the ones I have created or otherwise taken care of (like Template:Status ref鈥忊 (28 links)) was changed to the updated template from enWP. So now nothing links to it, but it won't cross out because the template was not created, because it doesn't need the template anymore. So when it updated, it should have removed the done ones already. Do you happen to know or can you check what updates that page since I have no view to it please and let me know. Thanks. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 20:00, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PotsdamLamb: If I understand what you're asking, you have to wait until the special pages are updated again. I think that happens every 3 or 4 days. Until then, everything in the list stays in the list. The ones that got created look different because the software recognizes that the template now exists. I don't think the link counts update until the whole list is refreshed. If you think you eliminated all references to the template before the indicated update time, it could be that the list was generated from a database dump that was taken before that time.
If that's not what you're asking, let me know. Sometimes it's hard to understand what you're asking. -- Auntof6 (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes that is exactly what I was looking for. If you see Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Status_ref nothing links to it anymore because the template we had for subspecies was old, so when I updated those pages no longer require it. Now I know it won't update like most other pages. Thank you. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 20:18, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Importing of templates[change source]

Ok what I have done has been very, very slow. If I were to post a list would you be able to import both the template and the /doc that goes with it since I am not being granted the right to bring the bigger ones in? It would be #19 to #77 on Special:WantedTemplates. Those are the ones with the most links going to them. Once they are at simple, I can go through and verify the links and if they are not needed I will mark them for QD. The manual process is externally slow. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 21:45, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also, just to add that if the links are only to an editor's space, I will not be using it and will also mark it for QD. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 21:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: If I'm going to work on Special:WantedTemplates, I'm only going to import the ones that are needed. I'm not going to import a batch of templates for someone to figure out whether they're needed. For example, I looked at #19 and that one looks like it's used in lists of related templates. I think that's the case with a lot of other templates, and I don't think that's a good reason to import. I don't want to import templates just because they're on the list of "wanted" templates. I believe I mentioned somewhere else that this is not a good approach. So no, I'm not going to just import things when I don't know if they're needed. -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:05, 30 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That one was a bad example. But like 76, we need that one but the problem is we need to pull in all of the linked ones as well since they have updated information on the minor planets and there are hundreds of them. I can鈥檛 do that by copy and paste to each one. For 16 (and others like it) where it is coming from I can delete that text from the doc to get rid of the templates needed because they are basically see also on another template. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 01:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: You don't need to delete text from a doc page to get rid of a red link. In fact, please don't, if only to keep our doc in sync with enwiki's. Also, if it stays there, someone looking for a template to do its function might see it and then ask for it to be imported. I can't help but feel that you're being a bit overzealous here. -- Auntof6 (talk) 01:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok then I won鈥檛 touch anymore and I鈥檒l let the articles we have maintain the nasty template so-so not found or the big red LUA error remain. I鈥檒l move back to adding taxon boxes. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 01:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: Some, perhaps many, of the templates you asked to have imported don't appear in articles, so that wouldn't be a problem. If you determine ones that are needed to fix actual problems, I would import those. Besides, doesn't a LUA error appear when a module is missing, rather than a template? -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes but what calls the LUAs, templates. That is why I wanted to 1) have the permission and 2) when I come across the ones like the minor planets I can pull them all in. This way I do not need to wait on an admin nor have an admin add to their otherwise heavy workload. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 04:26, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copy Template[change source]

Can you please copy EN:Template:Bots to Template:Bots please so we have the updated information? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 16:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PotsdamLamb: Since this template is used on the main page, I'd like other admins to weigh in. Would you make this request on the admins noticeboard? Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I just looked at it. It is just calling {{nobots}} so no bots can edit it. If you look at the source code, it is at the very bottom. So this import will not have an effect on it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 19:17, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: I did look at the source code. {{nobots}} is a redirect to {{bots}}, so it will have an effect, especially since our current version of the template has no functionality, and the version you want adds some. -- Auntof6 (talk) 19:22, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have copied this and made my response at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Template_Bots_Discussion. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 19:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Khalid El Ma芒roufi[change source]

The league may have been notable but I was not able to find anything about him playing for the league and the picture used in the article was put on the internet a couple of days ago and the editor claimed it was their own work that they took the pic on August 2, 2022. If he did play for them I should have easily found him when I searched his name with the word football and the only thing that came up was the simple commons and fr articles. There is not an enWP article on him. Also most football pictures would show them in play or in uniform. This shows an up close staged photo of him. Even the link presented is a blank page and all the things that came up with his name are fandom sites or editable by users. I have to disagree with your denial of the QD and I would like to send this to RfD for all editors to be involved please. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:11, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PotsdamLamb: You don't need permission to send this to RFD, and I expected that you would do that. In fact, that's the standard procedure when a QD is denied and someone wants to pursue it. Sometimes the declining admin will do it; if they don't, then anyone else can. By declining the QD, I was not saying that I think the person is notable, just that I didn't consider it to fit the QD criteria.
The QD/A4 option is for "people, groups, companies, products, services or websites that do not claim to be notable" (bolding mine). Determining notability for sportspeople can be a little complicated. There's a notability guideline (or at least there used to be: I can't find it right now) saying that sportspeople who have played in top-tier leagues are considered notable. That's why I declined the QD. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:18, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I saw something about that on enWP this past week and they favored to go with the person has to be notable. Not just a member of the team. This guy has supposedly played since 2004 so I should have easily been able to find something. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:22, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: Can you point me to where you saw that? It would be very helpful. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
EN:Wikipedia:Notability_(sports) is one such based on what is required specifically for an athlete and that is added to WP:GNG. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: Yes, I was looking at that page. I thought it was interesting that there doesn't seem to be anything for association football players. I thought there used to be. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think that is because of the no inherited nobility rule. The team itself can have an article if they meet the nobility guidelines for sports teams but that doesn鈥檛 mean the players are also notable. It鈥檚 like the one example because the CEO is notable does not mean the company is notable or vice versa. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:40, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Shall I do the QD again or do you want me to RfD it? I also knew it was a new article based on the wikidata number which tells me it鈥檚 not linked to enWP. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:42, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: RFD, please. Also, just knowing the Wikidata number can't tell you if the page is linked in enwiki. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: I understand about inherited notability, but for sportspeople it's sometimes different. I meant that the info on notability for professional sports people doesn't have anything for association football players. There's a long list for other sports, just not for that one, and some of those mention notability based on being on certain teams. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here you go. I found it. EN:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Association_football_variants_task_force#Footballers_(from_WP:FOOTBALL/Notability) I obviously suck at dates lol. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But I did read it this week lol Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 22:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: That's a statement on a WikiProject page. I'll take a look later to see if I can find where a decision might have been made to change that guideline. -- Auntof6 (talk) 23:03, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh this is what I was reading Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#BilledMammal_nominations_of_Danish_international_footballers as it touches on the topic, of course with a broader issue surrounding it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 馃悜! 01:00, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of countries of Caucasian peoples[change source]

Hello, you closed the RfD for this page as a delete, but it seems that you might have forgotten to delete the page. Thanks. 鈥 *Fehufang膮鉁 Talk page 08:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Fehufanga: Oops! Thanks for pointing that out! -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reason[change source]

Any reason for wanting to remove this article in development and from a current political event?.Nancy Pelosi Taiwan visit Vumury (talk) 05:22, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • leave the arbitrariness and give me valid reasons to remove this article from a fact that concerns United States Vumury (talk) 05:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vumury: It didn't have anything to do with the topic. The topic is a good one. It was nominated for quick deletion because it was copied from the English Wikipedia ("enwiki") article without being simplified. Articles here need to be in simple language. Sometimes it helps to think of simple English as a separate language from regular English. You wouldn't create an article here in German, and for the same reason we don't create articles here without them being in simple English.
We have an article about how to copy articles from other Wikipedias at Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia. Other pages that can be helpful are Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages and Wikipedia:Transwiki attribution. If you are still working on the article you can either put a template on it saying so (for example {{under construction}}) or you can put it in your userspace to work on until it is ready.
If you would like to know more about how Simple English Wikipedia is different from English Wikipedia, you might like to look at this list I maintain. The list itself is not a policy or guideline, but it links to some relevant policies and guidelines.
Finally, please do not remove the quick deletion template again. You may not remove quick deletion templates from articles that you created. A wait template was put on the article by TDKR Chicago 101, but I don't see where that user explained why the page shouldn't be deleted. If you would like the page moved to your userspace so you can work on simplifying it, I would be happy to do that. Otherwise, an admin may delete the page in accordance with our quick deletion policy. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


was copied from the English Wikipedia Political status of Taiwan no references no relevance聽??????--Vumury (talk) 06:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vumury: I don't understand your point here. -- Auntof6 (talk) 06:07, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


my article is a translation but at least it has many references and notoriety by god all the articles on this Wikipedia are translations of en.wiki 驴? --Vumury (talk) 06:11, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

block vandal[change source]

Just so the block can be faster, I'm posting it here: 203.212.247.40(talk contribs deleted聽contribs filter聽log WHOIS RDNS RBLs http block聽user block聽log). Lights and freedom (talk) 03:59, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Lights and freedom: Blocked for 31 hours. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:12, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

personal attacks[change source]

Hello, I'm reporting 98.155.8.5 for a block for personal attack. NetHelper (talk) 06:46, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NetHelper: That link is to a page on English Wikipedia. This is Simple English Wikipedia, a separate site. If the attack happened on English Wikipedia, you need to report it there. If it happened here, please report it at WP:VIP. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please.[change source]

I didn鈥檛 want my username listed there, because my username is an IP Adress, and I鈥檓 scared of getting doxxed by someone. 2601:2C1:4080:7DE0:DC3C:E102:1C6F:542B (talk) 08:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your IP address would still be in the page history anyway. If you would like it removed, I think you can send an email request to have that info hidden. See Wikipedia:Oversight for information on that. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am 2601:2c1:4080:7de0:dc3c:e102:1c6f:542b鈥檚 new account! 98.44.34.186 (talk) 15:18, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Why does my IP change? 2601:2C1:4080:7DE0:9C00:5333:5A01:2204 (talk) 17:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's not something I can definitively answer, but it depends on how you are accessing the Internet. Some Internet service providers (ISPs) assign an IP to each customer, but with some the IP changes. If you are accessing the Internet through a public location, such as a library or Internet cafe, then the IP will almost certainly change. -- Auntof6 (talk) 18:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You aren't posting under an account at all, but under an IP address. -- Auntof6 (talk) 18:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I now registered! Tristan Jon August Sonnier (talk) 04:06, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]