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Greenlandic people

Your QD (and the subsequent deletion) of Category:Greenlandic people have been reverted. Similar actions were taken for the List of Prime Ministers of Greenland and Hans Enoksen. The Prime Minister of Greenland post was never tied to Denmark. List it as such would be akin to listing the Presidents of Ireland, India or the United States as British people. Just because the country happened to be ruled by Denmark in its past has no bearing on the post (the 1st PM of Greenland was 1979, the year the country became independent of Denmark). As to Hans Enoksen, while I haven't studied Danish and Greenlandic laws governing dual citizenship, Enokson, as PM of Greenland is certainly Greenlandic. He is also Danish by birth (born in Greenland while it was a part of Denmark) and may qualify for both Danish and Greenlandic peoples, but he is as Greenlandic as George Washington is American (born in British America, President of the country after leaving British rule).

There was a bit of a difference of opinion on the "3rd" article for that category but a suitable option did exist (and a more suitable option was later created) but even without a 3rd at the time, this does not mean the category did not have one in the past which could have been deleted due to notability (or a host of other reasons).

This whole thing became more of an issue as the QD was requested under C1 which does not apply to any category which has not been empty for 4 days. The category was emptied out at 03:33, December 30, 2012‎, I was notified of the QD at 03:34, December 30, 2012‎ and it was deleted 14:40, December 30, 2012.. hardly 4 days. The admin that deleted likely did not have the information of when the cat became empty, but it either should not have been tagged (as it was not a legitimate tag) or the tag should have clearly stated when it was eligible for deletion (so you don't have to remember to go back 4 days later and tag it - all on the admin if they decide to delete it early).--Creol(talk) 17:23, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for letting me know. As I mentioned elsewhere, I thought that Greenland is owned by Denmark, and that therefore anything Greenlandic is also Danish. I'll be more careful when QDing categories that I have just emptied, at least where they have existed for a while. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:28, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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I'm thinking that this category is too broad for individual dishes. Maybe we need a cuisine category, which would include all actual meals whose preparation requires a recipe. It could be a sub-cat of Foods and Cooking. Macdonald-ross (talk) 15:23, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You may have a point. Another possibility would be categories like entrees, Category:Desserts, Category:Sandwiches, Category:Soups, salads, etc. -- whatever we have enough entries for? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:11, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fiction tag on articles

For some unknown reason the Fiction Tag was placed on the article regarding Ashley Benson. Is there something wrong, Auntof6, and how can the article be redone here? September 1988 (talk) 22:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't mean to put that one on, just the unref BLP one. Recently I've been using a tablet for some of my editing, and I probably touched something I didn't mean to. Thanks for adding the reference, by the way.--Auntof6 (talk) 23:11, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Using simple terms

Hey Auntof6. Thanks for informing me. I'll use the word many rather than countless, numerous or multiple from now on. And I'll try my best to use shorter sentences in the future articles I create.September 1988 (talk) 17:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crown Jewels

Yes, I plan to put more in this category over the next few days ... especially St Edwards Crown and the Sceptre. Oregonian2012 (talk) 00:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Categories on Simple English Wikipedia

Hi Auntof6. I didn't know the rule about categories in Simple English Wiki. Sorry for that. I don't plan new articles in this category. I moved the article to Category:Bulgarian people. Please remove other unneeded categories. Thanks. --Eng-men (talk) 00:39, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem -- thanks for your reply. I have asked for the categories to be deleted. Feel free to create them again if you create more articles for them. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I'm afraid we can't continue using the Category:Protozoa, which is no longer used by zoology, nor by English wiki (it is no longer a category in biological taxonomy). We must have a Category:Alveolata under Category:Protists. Then we need Category:Ciliates, Category:Apicomplexa and Category:Dinoflagellates under the Alveolata. I hope you will trust me to do this, and will make sure the categories are populated soon. I would request that in the taxonomic categories you consult me before deleting. Thank you. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can see how it would be bothersome to have someone change things in an area you have specific interest in. I have one or two areas like that myself. However, I have a problem with the idea of having to remember that an editor wants to be consulted for changes in a given area. As I think someone else mentioned recently, that gets into WP:OWN. Can you think of a way to address this that doesn't get into WP:OWN? --Auntof6 (talk) 09:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Owning is not the point, nor is bothersome the issue. The point is that taxonomic categories are nested together consistent with what is the current practice in the sciences concerned. Changes which would disturb the structure are not helpful. However, we don't even need to delete the Protozoa category; the point is that we must have a correct category to use when an article presents as being about a formal taxonomic category. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:58, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Samson and Delilah (opera)

Thank you for contributing! I'm waiting on this to be passed or failed! Oregonian2012 (talk) 18:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rouen Cathedral, West Façade, Sunlight (Monet)

Would you delete the page in the title of this message above? It is an error. Oregonian2012 (talk) 21:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can't delete pages, but I see that the page is gone now. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quick deletion of Category:Japanese painters

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The page you wrote, Category:Japanese painters, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. Auntof6 (talk) 22:47, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


If you must use Twinkle, suppress messages for regulars. Goblin 15:27, 29 January 2013 (UTC) I ♥ The Rambling Man![reply]

BG, don't template the regulars is more about warnings about conduct etc. It is perfectly fine to use templates to warn regulars that an article they created was up for deletion etc. -DJSasso (talk) 17:53, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that. If I'd realized that so many of them were created by the same person, I would have combined the notices. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:37, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing duplications

Hallo, and thanks for fixing and Redirecting the 'Kabbadi' article! Could you also please help, I made some small literary articles including Lord Chesterfield but there seems to already be an article Philip Stanhope, 4th Earl of Chesterfield; and I would be grateful if someone could please help and cancel the first and redirect to second. Many thanks for your cooperation, regards Hamneto (talk) 12:34, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Hamneto[reply]

Thomas Wolfe

 Duh! Thanks for that! And thanks for adding the template header to those categories. If you want the flood flag or something to finish them off, just let me know. Osiris (talk) 08:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem -- I've made that same mistake! Thanks for offering the flood flag, but I'll pass on it for now. I'm trying not to stay up too late, plus I've developed some arthritis in my hand that makes it painful sometimes to do too much at once. Maybe another day. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 09:16, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


On ice, and waiting

Hi Auntof6, I am amazed that you can still find things to fix in the category area. What a mammoth task. I shall have a bottle of champagne ready here for when you finish! --Peterdownunder (talk) 05:28, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Finish? You're funny! I have lots more ideas! --Auntof6 (talk) 05:31, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh well...I will just drink it anyway :)--Peterdownunder (talk) 05:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Theoretical computer science

Hello Autonf6,

After you tagged the articles Theoretical computer science as confusing, I have rewritten it. In my opinion, it should be a good stub. Please have a look and re-tag, if it is still confusing...--Eptalon (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's definitely better. Maybe a bit complex now, but it makes sense. It was mostly just poorly written. I fixed a typo in your revision.--Auntof6 (talk) 23:21, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
At least its correct. Quickly explaining the domains in like one or two sentences isn't easy either...--Eptalon (talk) 23:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed! --Auntof6 (talk) 23:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hexaplex erythrostomus

I want to explain what your problem with all my pages more simple than this can not put I'll have to report harassment, this is no longer the first time.--Veronidae (talk) 02:37, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are free to add a {{wait}} tag to the page. The page is the same as the page on English Wikipedia, and is not simple. The page was simpler before the information you added. It is not allowed to directly copy non-simple text here without making it more simple. Some of the non-simple words are globose, blunt, spina ormnentada, preseencia (or is that a typo?), fell, columella, siphonal, aperture, and infralittoral. One way to simplify it would be to remove the complex text (which would leave the article the way it was before your changes). Another way would be to replace those words with simpler ones. Another way would be to link those words to their Simple Wiktionary entries, if they are in Simple Wiktionary. Does that give you some ideas on how to make it more simple? If you aren't able to make this kind of page more simple, maybe you could work in your userspace and ask other editors for help with it. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:53, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but particularly I think his attitude is bothering me, not the first one that you do the same and then the remaining items, please check no more want my articles. If we remove the item description that grace is only to say that the article is a marine snail does not make sense is a 70,000 species of them.--Veronidae (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now suppose that you feel fulfilled?--Veronidae (talk) 10:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Heya. Just to let you know: this was okay, because adding the -Latn to {{lang|grc-Latn|ékleipsis}} has the same function as {{transl|grc|ékleipsis}}. The first option outputs <span lang="grc-Latn"> and the second outputs <span title="ISO XXX"> (whatever the ISO code is for transliteration of the Greek alphabet into the Latin alphabet), which both have the same function in CSS. Osiris (talk) 14:09, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the info. I was trying to move the pages in Category:Articles containing non-English language text into subcategories. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:17, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yeah I see. Okay. The best way to go, I think, is for me to import the {{ISO 639 name}} templates that are listed on the Special:WantedTemplates. It will result in a lot of redlinked categories, if that's okay. If not, I can just import the ones that have more than three transclusions...? In cases where the code is suffixed by a writing script abbreviation, (like {{ISO 639 name grc-Latn}}), they can just be a redirect (like {{ISO 639 name grc}}). Osiris (talk) 01:26, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I wouldn't mind the redlinked cats -- there aren't as many of them as there used to be (if I may blow my own horn!), and I might be able to populate them. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You certainly may, anyone who has glanced at RC in the past few weeks can see you've been hard at work! Okay then, I'll import all of them? There are 123, but it looks like half of them will be redirects. Osiris (talk) 01:34, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They'll all be showing up in Category:ISO 639 name from code templates without a category. The lesser-used ones I might just add directly to {{lang}}, although {{transl}} might have to be recoded as well. Osiris (talk) 01:44, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Azerbaijani political parties


Why was the "Category:Azerbaijani political parties" deleted? The category was not originally empty, it had two articles corresponding to that category. Is there a specific number of corresponding articles necessary for a category, in order for it to stay? If yes, there are many other existing categories which have only one or two corresponding articles. For instance Category:Swedish political parties has two articles and Category:Ukrainian political parties has only one article. If there is a written rule in Simple English Wikipedia which states that a minimum number of articles are necessary, for a category to stay, this needs to be indicated with an internal link. If there is not, then it sounds like a double standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 08:41, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking. Here on Simple English Wikipedia, we want at least three entries in each category. That is stated here. That is one of the ways that we keep things simple. Since Category:Azerbaijani political parties had only two entries, I recategorized them and asked for the category to be deleted. Before I did that, I tried to find something else that could go in that category, but I wasn't able to find anything.
You're right that many other categories have only one or two entries. We have so many categories that it's hard to keep track of all the ones that don't have enough entries. I don't always see them. When I do see one, I don't always have time to do anything about it. When I do have time, I look for more entries (articles, templates, or other categories) to put into it. When I can't find more entries, I often recategorize the one or two articles and QD the category. Does that help? --Auntof6 (talk) 01:52, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the information. ((unsigned||03:36, February 23, 2013}}
One thing of note: The categorization guideline linked above only applies to the creation of new categories. Three should be (it's guideline not a policy so "should") available when the category is created. There does not need to be three to keep the category after that point. Only one article really needs to be there to keep the category open for further expansion. This helps deal with issues of yo-yoing categories and deletion/undeletion requests/page creations. (got 3, create the cat, cat the 3, #3 gets RfD'd, recat the #1 nd #2, qd the category, new one is created, recat #1 and #2, cat #4, request undelete of the cat, find #2 fits better somewhere else, move it, recat #1 and #4, qd the cat, find #5, recat #1 and #4, add #5 recreate the category... oy. - 7 edits turns into 16, a 2 qds and in RfUD) I created the gategorization guideline to minimize problems and make issues simpler to handle, not to add more layers to the practice. --Creol(talk) 17:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for changing some complex sentence in Bangladesh national cricket team Statistics and Records. . I think It's very helpful for me. I hope in next it'll be easier for me in simple wiki.--Pratyya (Hello!) 03:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

length of life categories

I do think categories like 'septuagenarian' are crackpot. Who on Earth would ever want to look up a category like that? I would agree that centenarians are, and always have been, interesting and notable, and that it should be a category (conceivably, nonagenarians are a useful category). But why have a category that would include such a huge proportion of deceased persons, and is so decidedly non-interesting and non-notable? The information is already prominent on biographies, often in two different places.

What useless categories do is clutter up the category space at the bottom of articles with information which is almost never needed. This has become a problem on English WP, where the category space for biographies sometimes includes 40 or 50 categories. As for "English septuagenarians", words fail me... Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I don't like them, either, except maybe the centenarian ones. I only created Category:American septuagenarians because it was created with a bad name of Category:American septuagenarian (singular). I'm just hoping nobody continues on creating them for other decades. If you want to nominate the lot of them for deletion, I'd support it. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:41, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd appreciate it if you put the category 'people by age' up for deletion. I don't really understand the mechanics of the software! I will add the above argument to the box. I think introductory reason is 'non-notable and uninteresting'. I agree we might end up with centenarians, but without 'septuagenarians in Bolivia'... Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:59, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzled about Categories

Hi, I created the septuagenarians and octogenarians categories and I don't get why you think they should be deleted including their subcategories...isn't that a bit exaggeration. Please write back to me. User:TDKR Chicago 101 (talk).

I'm not sure what you mean by it being an exaggeration. I don't see the need for these categories, so I 1) nominated the nonagenarians category for deletion (with a note that I felt the same way about the octogenarian and septuagenarian categories) and 2) supported deletion of the people by age category. Nominating a category for deletion just starts a discussion to see what other editors think. If we need to identify people by age this way, I think it would be better as a list. Keep in mind that this is just my opinion. Other editors, including you, are welcome and entitled to comment at the rfd. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Left one more thing. User:Starship9000 (roller coaster fan) 00:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Incredible Hulk (roller coaster)

I created a page about the Incredible Hulk roller coaster so is there anything it needs that way it looks good. I can create articles on roller coasters, elements of the roller coasters, and I can also create a cat for Japan roller coasters. Thanks! --User:Starship9000 (roller coaster fan) 00:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking, but I did a little editing on that article. Let me know if you have any questions about what I did. Category:Roller coasters in Germany still has only two articles. Is there another German roller coaster you could make an article for? --Auntof6 (talk) 00:36, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Inverted roller coaster

Will you help have Inverted roller coaster article improved for me please? You can leave a note on my talk page or before leaving a message below, please a talkback notice on my talk page before you do. Thank you! --User:Starship9000 (roller coaster fan) 21:14, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did some editing on it. Tell me what you think. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:13, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It needs a picture of a inverted coaster. --User:Starship9000 (roller coaster fan) 00:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Do you want me to tell you how to find one and put it in the article, or do you want me to do it myself? I'm OK with either! --Auntof6 (talk) 01:13, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

new picture for Inverted roller coaster

I want you to put a new picture for the inverted roller coaster article. You can put a picture of Raptor at Cedar Point or Afterburn at Carowinds. Hows that? Please respond below this conversation. Thanks! --Starship9000 (roller coaster fan) 19:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How am I?

How Im I doing since I am sorting these coasters in categories? I also created a article on a famous roller coaster, Loch Ness Monster. Please leave a note on my talk page. --Starship9000 (roller coaster fan) 21:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the categories make sense, but some of them don't have enough entries. As we talked about at User talk:Starship9000#Roller coaster categories, you need to have at least three entries in each category. Please don't create a category until you have three things to put in it. The categories that don't have enough entries right now are:
Can you put more things in these categories before you create any more? If there aren't more things to put in them, you could move the entries to a higher-level category.
I will leave a talkback on your talk page, but let's keep the conversation in one place so it's easier to follow. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 22:13, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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You do a great job here, so here's a barnstar for you. Lugia2453 (talk) 18:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks! It's nice to get the positive feedback. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 13:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Independent category name change

Well at least can we just move the page from politicians towards people since it's not a political office. Well people are listed as Independent, so how about that. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall removing anything from the talk. I must have removed it by mistake. Write back about the rename idea. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I left a note about renaming on the RFD page. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey. Is it okay if we put back the boxes you removed in this edit? I was just having a look at what that page is for... it seems that it's supposed to display all Babel templates for Arabic. Linked to from Wikipedia:Babel, under the section for Arabic. I actually don't really see the point of any of those pages as the templates are all linked to from Wikipedia:Babel anyway. I would delete them, but I'm not sure whether everyone would agree. Osiris (talk) 02:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I'm not sure what I was thinking there... maybe that this was the category for Arabic-speaking users? --Auntof6 (talk) 02:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Eurovision Song Contest

The Eurovision Song Contest is not a reality show. It is an international song contest that dates back to 1956. Each nation submits one song/performer to represent them each year at the televised event. Every person selected it inherently notable on the basis that they had to win the national competition to even be a part of Eurovision. National level competition qualifies as "major music competition" to not only qualify as a claim of notability, but proven notability per en:Wikipedia:Notability (music). The fact that this will yield international viewership measured in the 100s of million (Eurovision draws between 100-600 million viewers each event) is just an added bonus ie. performed live for 1/4 to 1/2 a billion people. --Creol(talk) 15:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! I didn't know. Thanks for educating me! --Auntof6 (talk) 15:48, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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  • Development
    • Rolled out new code on The new stuff you probably care about is:
      • Improved references. They can now have multiple lines. This should make references much more useful. You can now have one reference with for example values for each of the properties "book", "author", "page" to describe one source.
      • Fixed the prev/next links in diff view (bugzilla:45821)
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    • Made it so that the “edit links” link on Wikipedia is also shown when the corresponding item only has a link to this one language and no other languages
    • Submitted improved Apache config patch to make always redirect to, which is awaiting code review and deployment.
    • Improved the script that is responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias
    • Added a few ways to better debug the script responsible for taking Wikidata changes to the Wikipedias. This should help with investigating why some changes take way to long to show up on the Wikipedias.
    • Started work on automatically adding edited items to the user’s watchlist (according to preferences)
    • Finished script for rebuilding search keys, so we can finally get case insensitive matches in a lot of places
    • Support for multi-line references in diff view
    • Selenium tests for inclusion syntax
    • Improved parser function (that will be used to access Wikidata data on the Wikipedias) to accept property ID or label
    • Increased isolation of data model component to increase clarity and visibility of bad dependencies
    • Worked on schema access in the SQLStore (of the query component)
  • Discussions/Press
  • Events
    • 3rd Media Web Symposium 2013
    • Wikidata trifft Archäologie
    • SMWCon Spring NYC
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Did you know?
    • When you edit a statement there is a little wheel in front of the text field. This lets you choose between “custom value”, “unknown value” and “no value”. “No value” means that we know that the given property has no value, e.g. Elizabeth I of England had no spouse. “Unknown value” means that the property has a value, but it is unknown which one -- e.g. Pope Linus most certainly had a year of birth, but it is unknown to us.
  • Open Tasks for You
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Ok. Happy Easter... (talk) 23:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quick deletion of Category:People by age

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The page you wrote, Category:People by age, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. Auntof6 (talk) 12:43, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


The template is exactly the same except one say's: "Interventions infobox" and one says "Infobox disease"
Trivial difference in the code, No difference in appearance on the page, same exact template otherwise. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you, very simple. 7mike5000 (talk) 01:16, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #51

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • The first 11 Wikipedias can now include data from Wikidata in their articles (If you want to see it in action see the infobox at it:Torino)
    • Worked on automatic summaries for statements
    • Worked on making properties accessible from the client using their label so you can use {{#property:executive director}} instead of {{#property:p169}} for example
    • Made qualifiers ready for the next deployment (Please test. See details further down.)
    • Selenium tests for qualifiers
    • Fixed some issues related to QUnit testing
    • Worked on improved handling and code design of multiple snak lists in the UI (qualifiers, references)
  • Discussions/Press
  • Events
    • Newline 2013
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • We’re currently carefully monitoring performance after the deployment of phase 2 on the first 11 Wikipedias. There seem to be a few small issues. As soon as they are resolved we'll deploy on English Wikipedia. All other Wikipedias are planned to follow very soon after that.
    • Bye and a big thank you to Anja, Silke, Jens and John who are leaving the development team at the end of the month and will work on other cool things. You’ll be missed!
    • Ever had any doubt about the possibilities of Wikidata? Talk to Wiri!
    • We worked on reducing the time it takes for Wikidata edits to show up in the Wikipedias and made some progress. Daniel posted an analysis
    • We started running a script on the database in order to make search on Wikidata case-insensitive. This should be finished in a few days and then search should be more useful.
    • In addition to the above we have rolled out a new search box that suggests items. This should also make finding things on Wikidata a lot easier for you.
    • We’re making some progress with Internet Explorer 8 support but there are a lot of issues with it (some outside our control). It’s unclear at the moment how much we can improve it still without spending an unjustified amount of time on it. You can follow the progress at bugzilla:44228
    • Edits are now auto-confirmed for users with more than 50 edits and account age 4 days: bugzilla:46461
    • Do you need old-style interwiki links for a sister project for example? This is for you
    • The Wikimedia Foundation applied as a mentoring organisation for Google Summer of Code again. We have proposed some Wikidata projects for students to take up if the Foundation is accepted again. At least 2 other organisations that applied also propose Wikidata ideas. More details on that once we know which organisations are accepted.
    • Denny hacked together a tree of life based on data from Wikidata
    • Wikidata was added to wikipulse
    • A template to retrieve data from Wikidata if no local value is set
  • Did you know?
  • Open Tasks for You
    • See note at the end of this weekly summary
    • Help test qualifiers (m:Wikidata/Notes/Data model primer#Qualifiers - see also example statements there) on the test wiki so we can roll it out with the next release
    • Did you file a bug report for Wikidata or did someone else do it for you? Please take a minute to check if it is still valid. (Thanks for filing it btw!)
    • Add some missing descriptions to those items with the same label?
    • Hack on one of these

Could I have 2 mins of your time? As I’ll be working on some other projects for Wikimedia Germany as well from now on the time I can spend on Wikidata will be reduced. This means I’ll have to figure out what is useful to spend time on. If you’re reading this could you let me know for example on this discussion page? Also if you have ideas how to improve the weekly summaries please post them. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk)

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Thanks for the advice. Can you do me a favor and check if Hal Holbrook, Tom Bosley, Richard Griffiths, Michael Gough, Pat Hingle, and Conrad Bain articles simple enough? I would do them myself, but I fear that I'm the only contributor and they might delete the articles because of that. (I've recreated several articles because of that reason).....Thanks a million!!!! - TDKR Chicago 101 (talk), 2:18, 31 March 2013.

OK, I'll look at them. It might take me a while to get to them all. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:05, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #52

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • The first year is over. Thank you everyone for being amazing and helping to build Wikidata and making it more than we could possibly have hoped for already. <3
    • Put a lot of work into improved support for Internet Explorer 8
    • Worked on improving recent changes code in client
    • Finished valueview refactoring. Created new extension “ValueView”
    • Implemented string formatter
  • Discussions/Press
  • Events
    • upcoming: GLAM-Wiki 2013
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Deployment of phase 2 on English Wikipedia is currently planned for April 8. The remaining Wikipedias are scheduled for April 10. As usual this might change if we run into problems along the way.
    • There is now a page showing the current lag for changes propagating to the Wikipedias so they can show up in watchlists and recent changes for example. This should ideally be in the range of a few minutes. Right now it is higher because of some abnormally high bot activity but decreasing. Should be down to a few minutes soon.
    • There’s now a badge you can add to Wikipedia articles to indicate there is data about it on Wikidata
    • We hit Q10000000
    • A Wikidata item in the wild ;-)
  • Did you know?
  • Open Tasks for You

Based on feedback for last week’s call for comments we will continue this newsletter. However more community help will be needed. From now on they’ll be drafted at d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next and your help is very welcome.

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Did You Know?

Hey, I fixed the William Howard Taft and Franklin D. Roosevelt fact can you check them if there done correctly. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk), 6 April 2013, 23:09 (UTC)

You already asked me to review 5 other articles for how simple they are. What would you like looked at first? Please don't keep adding more until either I get a chance to look at what you already asked, or you decide you'd rather I look at something different. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Map

the Golan Hights is the israeli side of the Golan area between Syria and Israel. and most of the Golan are Mountains between Israel and Syria. Mount Hermon is the highest border in the Golan. פארוק (talk) 10:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I undid your change because Golan Heights is about a "strip of land", not about a mountain or group of mountains. Even if the land has mountains, the article is not about the mountains, so it should not be in a "mountains" category. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. but most of the region is on the israeli side, not in the Syrian. פארוק (talk) 12:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #53

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Got some external professional review of our code and architecture and started working on their feedback
    • Worked on reducing the dispatch lag (the time it takes for changes on Wikidata to be sent to the Wikipedias for display in watchlist, recent changes and to purge affected pages)
    • Worked on using Redis for job queue to improve the lag situation even further
    • Created new Wikibase Query extension for phase 3 functionality
    • Autocomments & Autosummaries for SetClaim module
    • Worked on the GeoCoordinate parser
  • Events/Press
    • right now: GLAM-WIKI 2013
  • Discussions
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Deployment of phase 2 on the remaining Wikipedias was delayed because of a high lag of changes being propagated to the Wikipedias. The lag has been reduced considerably now and is going down even more. The new date for deployment will not be next week because there are other large changes on Wikimedia infrastructure scheduled that we do not want to interfere with. It will hopefully happen very soon after that though.
    • Next code update on is planned for Wednesday. This should include qualifiers and bugfixes.
    • There will probably be a short outage/read-only for on Tuesday (database is being switched to MariaDB)
    • If you're a student and interested in coding on Wikidata consider applying for Google Summer of Code.
    • There is a new user right: property creators
    • There is now a page to request deletion of a property
    • We now have Bureaucrats
    • Reasonator was improved and extended (1 2)
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English Wikipedia copied my article!

Hi! I've noticed that the English Wikipedia has created my George Martin (American actor), but if you look at the articles history and writing format it appears that the user who created the article just copied and pasted of from the Simple English article. I've seen some Simple English articles that were deleted because of coping and pasting off from the English Wikipedia. Can you try to figure out if there's a way to well to something about it because I'm blocked from the English Wikipedia (because of not adding reliable sources). Thanks!!! - TDKR Chicago 101 (talk), 14 April 2013, 16:24 (UTC).

Did they give attribution to the article? If so, then it's OK for them to copy the article. The only reason we don't allow it here is that an article from somewhere else is usually not written in Simple English. It's OK for an article on English Wikipedia to be in Simple English. Besides, when you write something on any Wikipedia, you specifically allow it to be used anywhere (even somewhere other than Wikipedia) as long as attribution is given. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:54, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The article lacked any attribution. I have added the attribution template to their article so it should be covered now. I used the translated tag in place of the imported one as it is technically a translation even if nothing was actually translated (works better with tracking versions as well). --Creol(talk) 14:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They have done it to me too, so we must be writing good stuff :)--Peterdownunder (talk) 03:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

John Heisman

You may want to reconsider your tagging here. Given he was born in 1869, I am pretty certain it is not a BLP as to be a living person he would be 144 yrs old (actually he died about 75 yrs ago).--Creol(talk) 22:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #54

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Dispatch lag is now down to 0 so changes should show up very quickly on the Wikipedias in watchlists and recent changes
    • now always redirects to This should among other things solve the issue where people were not able to edit when on (bugzilla:45005)
    • Fixed weird blocked-user/protected-page handling in UI (bugzilla:45140)
    • Final meetings for the external professional review of our code and architecture. They were quite happy with the quality of the codebase and gave useful tips for improvements
    • Worked on automatic summaries for editing claims
    • Investigation of different JavaScript frameworks dealing with date and time
    • Worked on using Redis and the job queue for change notifications to clients
    • Work on the storage code for answering queries
  • Events/Press
    • GLAM-WIKI 2013
    • upcoming: office hour on IRC about sources
    • upcoming: Opensource Treffen
    • upcoming: intro to Wikidata at the British Library
  • Discussions
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Open Tasks for You
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Sent you something. Osiris (talk) 16:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spider categories

Hey. If you have the time, would you mind taking a look at User talk:Osiris#Categories and answering the query there? I'm an expert on neither spiders nor categories, so could use some help. Osiris (talk) 08:16, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Arlington National Cemetery

Thank you.

i think a Category about the "Memorials in Arlington National Cemetery" also missing here. thank you veri much. פארוק (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Since I am not positive that we have many (if any) bots at the moment updating wikidata in terms of wikilinks for categories that have been renamed. If you feel up to it you might want to go and edit wikidata for the categories you renamed so they point to the right place. I will help when I get some time later. -DJSasso (talk) 15:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have that on my list to do! I was going to wait until the renaming is all done and take care of it all at once. If you do any, or you want to reserve some for you to do, maybe you can let me know which ones -- like "European countries A through F", or something like that. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 15:07, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox German location

When setting the property for Art in {{Infobox German location}} (as you did here), if it is set to a subdivision of a city, town or municipality, you also have to tell the system what it is a subdivision of or it will be added to Category:Articles with infobox errors. Most editors don't have hidden cats shown so it is easy for them to miss adding errors like these. --Creol(talk) 14:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, and for fixing those two! I actually do display the hidden cats, but I missed that. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:15, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Finding Un-categorized pages

Is there any place where I can uncatgorized pages? From where you find pages and add categories? (talkback message required)--Pratyya (Hello!) 07:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, at Special:UncategorizedPages, but there aren't usually very many listed there. There are a lot of pages that need categories that are hard to find, though. Those are pages that are in cleanup categories, but not "regular" categories. If you wanted to, you could look through pages in the cleanup categories to make sure they are in all the "regular" categories they should be. That could be a little tedious, but it would be very helpful! --Auntof6 (talk) 07:49, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I would like to do this as well please? Thanks. curtaintoad | chat me! 08:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK. You don't need permission, you can just be bold! What information would you like from me? Are you familiar with picking categories? One thing to know is that if you want to create a new category, you need at least three entries to put in it first. We don't want new categories with only one or two entries in them. Of course, the entries can be articles, templates, or other categories. For example, look at Category:Canadian companies. It has two subcategories, quite a few articles, and a template.
Another thing to know is that you don't want to add a category that's covered by a category already on the article. I took a look at your changes, and I saw this one where you added Category:Japanese footballers. That category isn't needed because the article already has Category:Footballers from Ibaraki Prefecture. All footballers from that prefecture are Japanese footballers, so you don't need both categories. A slightly different change is this one, where you added Category:Wii-only games to an article that had Category:Wii games. The article doesn't need both -- it only needs the more-specific one, Category:Wii-only games. Does that all make sense? --Auntof6 (talk) 08:48, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes thanks; I think I get it. Yes let's be bold: be bold! curtaintoad | chat me! 09:06, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #56

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Re: Sorry about the flooding

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Turhan Bey

was engaged to Hamide Nermin Nezahat Sultana a granddaughter of the Ottoman Sultan Abdulaziz. From this connection comes his only son Sebahattin. The engagement was not solved before his son was born. Today his grandson Jean Timothee lives in Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2013


Thank!!!! Auntof6, this really made my day! - TDKR Chicago 101, 11:08, 25 March 25 (UTC).


Hey guys, don't you give warning after reverting a vandalism?(talkback message required)--Pratyya (Hello!) 03:40, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I usually do. Did you see a case where I didn't? --Auntof6 (talk) 03:41, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. I haven't told you. I found you right now that's why I asked you. Because I saw many don't giving warnings.--Pratyya (Hello!) 03:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What will I do on this IP. Reported, still vandalism. What warning I can give it?--Pratyya (Hello!) 04:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Report it at WP:VIP. That's all we non-admins can do. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I reported.--Pratyya (Hello!) 04:07, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel. although there is no international recognition becouse of the UN, so most embassies are in Tel Aviv. פארוק (talk) 04:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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In this edit, you tagged Worcester with {{when}} for the population. As the requested date is already in the article's infobox, do you feel it needs more of an explanation of the date in the prose than that which was already supplied by the infobox? If so, it should be an easy fix. (would be nice to get it ref'd or updated to a more current number, but that's a different issue but again, not a hard one to update.) --Creol(talk) 15:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note -- I missed that the date was in the infobox. I updated the prose. I look at infoboxes as quick references, and I like the prose to stand on its own. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:32, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Auntof6. I would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Auntof6. curtaintoad | chat me! 12:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And please give me a TB message. curtaintoad | chat me! 12:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, CT. For now, though, I'm going to decline. I've never had much interest in being an admin here. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:21, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you would really make a fine admin. ;) Arctic Kangaroo 16:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Arctic. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 07:50, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
{{Like}} for AK. Ya, you'll make a good admin.--Pratyya (Hello!) 09:55, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Big {{like}} per Auntof6, AK, Pratyya and myself =P curtaintoad | chat me! 09:58, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted the page as you've refused. I do wish you'd reconsider though. ;) Kennedy (talk) 14:42, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki links

Thank you. can you help me with that please ?, couse i don't know to use the new system. i want to writte more about the article about: "Arlington National Cemetery". פארוק (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is your malfunction?

Do you thrive on animosity? What exactly do you create? NOTHING. What you are doing is going out of your way to piss off the people who actully can create. DONT LEAVE ME ANY MORE GODDDAMNED MESSAGES. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A TALK PAGE IS? DO YOU KNOW HOW TO TALK? WTF? 7mike5000 (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What creating? You plagiarized En:wp.. At least she was nice enough to tell you the article you copy/pasted was marked to get deleted. --Creol(talk) 16:38, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Really, you obnoxious ass? I uploaded a section of the lead and was rewrote part of it. And was going to rewrite the rest and add to it. She/he put a tag on something within 30 minutes. So shove you your snippy little comment up your ass too.17:00, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Calm down. One more personal attack and you will be blocked per WP:ONESTRIKE. -Mh7kJ (talk) 17:08, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
He is lucky you commented first because I was about to block per it since he has been warned before. -DJSasso (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I cleared that report you made to VIP a bit earlier. Another administrator has since removed the attacks placed on his user page, and he's on his last warning. If it does happens again, WP:AN would be the best venue. Osiris (talk) 05:42, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks, I had noticed. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disability type

I do plan to work on this. (I have done a lot of this on English Wikipedia. en:Category:Disability sport classification is almost all my work.) Para-alpine skiing classification is one article I have worked on on simple. I just find it hard to simplify and in some cases, this is not easily known. (I can tell you based on the classification number broadly speaking if the person has an intellectual or vision based disability, or if they use a wheelchair or stand when they compete. I try to do this with vision impaired skiers and others. *babbles* --LauraHale (talk) 09:02, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish sportspeople

Not sure if you are done what you are doing yet but it looks like you have a typo in your AWB replace. you are missing the middle s in sportspeople. Just wanted to warn you incase you were going to continue. -DJSasso (talk) 13:37, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, thanks for fixing that! I was finished for the time being, but I'll make sure to fix that if I do any more. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:53, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Massive thanks for the work you are doing adding to these articles. :) I am kind of doing some things backward at the moment: I am creating stubs here so later I can try to put on English Wikipedia. (Following English Wikipedia notability by only writing about ones who have won medals.) --LauraHale (talk) 20:20, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Monuments and memorials in Mount Herzl

Ok. no problem. Thank youy very much ! for the help. פארוק (talk) 22:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Allerton

Per the template, I have been working to simplify the language on this article. When you have time would you please look at it and comment as to its most current presentation? Thank you. MySweetMelissa (talk) 12:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

John Carver (Mayflower passenger)

I made the reference cite error correction and read your comment about the Mayflower voyage section. I will remember in the future. Thank you. MySweetMelissa (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested deletion of pages in your userspace

Hi Auntof6, I have already deleted the pages which you have requested deletion for. There is one page left behind though: User talk:Auntof6/Adding simple interwikis on enwiki (main page has been deleted). Do you want that gone as well? Chenzw  Talk  08:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please. I guess I assumed that would go with the page it was associated with. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 08:04, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish people by city

Do you have a list of categories of Spanish people by city/area? I keep not including these in my stubs because it gets to be PITA when they are not Madrid or Barcelona. --LauraHale (talk) 21:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is Category:Spanish people by location. Some of the subcategories there are for cities, and some are for autonomous communities. Does that give you what you need? --Auntof6 (talk) 21:48, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. Thanks a lot. :) I am, when I need something to do, trying to create stub articles about every Spanish Paralympic medalists. (And related articles about topics like the sport, classification, etc. as it becomes obvious they are needed.) Some of the little formatting issues like that can get past me. Will go and see if I can add those categories to some of the articles I know need them. --LauraHale (talk) 22:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. If you find three or more people from a specific place that doesn't already have a "People from" category, feel free to create the category! --Auntof6 (talk) 22:50, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Found a couple of those, but my Spanish geography is not that great enough to know much about them. Some places I cannot tell if there is not an article about them, my capitalization is wrong, the name was wrong in the source, or there is English/Spanish usage issues. :/ --LauraHale (talk) 23:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #59

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events/Press
    • Linked Data in Business
    • currently: Hackathon in Amsterdam
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Did you know?
    • Newest properties: catalog code (P528), runway (P529), diplomatic relation (P530), diplomatic mission sent (P531), diplomatic mission sent (P531), port of registry (P532), target (P533), streak color (P534), Find a Grave (P535), ATP id (P536), twinning (P537), fracturing (P538), Museofile (P539)
    • Newest task forces: Ship task force
    • d:Template:Constraint:Item allows to check if items using a given property also have other properties. To find items to fix, it links to one of Magnus' tools and to a daily report. Sample: items with property mother should also have main type (GND) with value person.
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is loading dozens of articles into the site about Spanish "para" athletes. These articles are sourced to a website directory in Spanish. This is an English language site. Sources cannot be verified if the only sources cited are in languages other than English.

These athletes lack notability anyway and do not have significant coverage in 2nd sources. It is absurd to think that every. single. athlete. in the world must have a stub article at SEW. Please check it out. User:LauraHale is wasting his or her time writing all these articles. They are ephemeral. Sooner or later they will be obsolete, and there they are -- stuck in our database -- useless and outdated.

OOPS! I didn't know you were so closely involved with User:LauraHale! Just forget all this stuff I wrote. Oregonian2012 (talk) 02:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I've had some conversations with her, but I don't think of myself as closely involved. I consider the Paralympic Games to be on the same level as the Olympic Games. They're always held in conjunction with the Olympics. The last I looked, Laura was uploading Paralympian articles only about medal winners. (Has that changed?) I think they are just as notable as the Olympic medal winners. As for the idea of the articles becoming obsolete, I don't see that. Somewhere in the notability guidelines it specifically says that notability is permanent. If you're not finding coverage on them, I suspect it's it's either because you're not looking in the right places, or because coverage on the athletes mostly happens around the time of the events.
As for the sources, I think our policies or guidelines prefer sources in English, but don't require it. That's not one of my favorite guidelines, either.
To sum up, I do think the Paralympic medalists are notable enough for articles here. I'm curious as to why you asked me about this, though. You do know I'm not an admin, right? --Auntof6 (talk) 04:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you were an admin. This is one such bio Vicenta Arenas Mayor. There are dozens of these sorts of bios. This person was on a third place team. OK, write a piece on the team and include her name in that article, but each player on the team should not have a separate article. Each team player is not notable per the guidelines. We don't give every winning-team player in the Super Bowl, the World Series, etc. a separate two or three sentence article. SEW is not a directory. Oregonian2012 (talk) 08:22, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I disagree. We have articles on Olympic athletes who played team sports and whose team won bronze medals. Those people are considered Olympic medallists, and I happen to think that winning an Olympic, or Paralympic, medal is a big deal.
Which guideline are you referring to when you say that the individual team players aren't notable? I suspect that at least part of the reason we don't have articles on individual team members is that no one has written them yet. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If the individual athlete is not notable per the guidelines (significant coverage, reliable 2nd sources) then they should not have a separate article. User:LauraHale and others like her are simply transferring info from a web directory to SEW. There are dozens and dozens of one-sentence articles about football players (Christian Pander, for ex.) that lack notability, significant coverage, and rel. 2nd sources. Simply playing on a football team does not make one notable per SEW. Oregonian2012 (talk) 09:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect there is more coverage than you are finding. Still, since you feel so strongly about it, why don't you nominate one of the articles for rfd, and say that you're using it as a test case for this bigger issue. That would give more people a chance to weigh in. After all, the two of us can't decide anything on a user talk page. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • A big chunk of SEW is a jock directory. These articles are not "encyclopedic". They're just recitals of every stat for every tom jock, dick jock, and harry jock. They belong in jock directories not encyclopedias. Oregonian2012 (talk) 10:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Then, like I said, nominate an article for deletion. In the meantime, if you can't keep this discussion civil, please take it somewhere other than my talk page. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I won't pursue it. I don't think others want a test case at rfd. But thanks for talking! Oregonian2012 (talk) 10:41, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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If you continue to disable categories again, I'll talk to someone to block your user.. William Conduct (talk) (9:03 AM) (27 May 2013) (UTC)

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Related pages

Related pages: with longer articles it may be easier to find a link under rel pages than in the text. This would be a reason for listing some links twice. I don't think we have guidelines about it. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I wondered what is copyrighted on en-Wikipedia? Thanks for any information you can give me. MySweetMelissa (talk) 19:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean. Is this related to our policy of not allowing things from enwiki to be duplicated here? If so, that isn't because of copyright issues, it's because things on enwiki are usually too complex for Simple English Wikipedia. They also tend to have templates, categories, and other things that either we don't have or are different here. If that doesn't address your question, let me know. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:56, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. You had mentioned on my talk page "but it's a legal requirement here and we can get in trouble if it isn't done right" with regard to the attribution, etc., and as an editor I just wanted to be clear about those legal reasons. MySweetMelissa (talk) 20:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure "copyright" is the right term. Everything on all the Wikipedia's is under license. It can be reproduced anywhere, either on Wikipedia or elsewhere, if the terms of the licenses are followed. You can find detail detail about this this at Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License and at GNU Free Documentation License. Maybe one of our fellow editors who understands this better will see this and try to explain better. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I assumed when you used the term "legal" you meant copyright. If there is no legal problem, I am fine. MySweetMelissa (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is a legal issue. Those licenses are legal documents that restrict how contributions to Wikipedia can be used. For example, once you write something here, even you are restricted from using it elsewhere without giving proper attribution. If you'd like this clarified more, you might want to ask at Simple Talk to get input from people who understand it in more detail. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:36, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the idea of attribution and think it is the right thing to do, but there are copies of complete Wikipedia articles all over the Internet at non-wiki internet sites. It makes me upset that they do it and that is why I was wondering. Thanks for the answer. MySweetMelissa (talk) 20:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
All content on all wikipedia projects is copyrighted (automatically under the Berne Convention). The copyright holder is either the Wikimedia foundation (for all trademarked Wikipedia logos) or the editors who created the content (for everything else - change a word or even a punctuation mark and you created a derivative work based on the work before you). All of this work, while copyrighted, is released ,under various licences, to anyone to do anything they want with it as long as they follow the terms of the license. The big part of the licences used here is attribution. To reuse the information here, a person must agree to give credit to the people responsible for creating it. Most sites who reuse include a link somewhere on the page to the original article or its history. Other forms of attribution are acceptable and are listed in the pages dealing with the licences (Auntof6 linked them and they are at the bottom of each page). Not all sites do follow the terms of the licence and they are in violation of copyright due to it, but I would highly doubt most people would go though all the steps needed to deal with the copyright violations on a matter such as this.--Creol(talk) 23:05, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. MySweetMelissa (talk) 11:09, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kylie Minogue albums

Hi. i have just created the category. Regards. Hypuxylun (talk) 01:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Please be sure to add at least one more album. We want at least three entries before a new category is created. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:46, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. :) Hypuxylun (talk) 01:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 14:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

OK, no problem. Arctic Kangaroo () 14:17, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? --Auntof6 (talk) 14:25, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply] said that I did not understand your reasons, so if I want to discuss, then we can do so on our talk pages. Arctic Kangaroo () 14:27, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I said on your talk page. Do you want to discuss it more? I didn't know if you were saying OK to not discussing it any more at your rfa, or to pursuing the discussion elsewhere. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm referring to discussing on my talk page. :) Arctic Kangaroo () 14:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hey. I wrote something for User:Oregonian2012, but apparently he erased it from his talk page. When I erased something from my talk page a lot of users said that you can't do that. I would write something to him, but I think he has a grudge against me. Thanks. Oh and please writer back. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk), 30 May 2013, 16:03 (UTC).

I've seen different opinions about this. I personally think it's bad form to delete like that. I told Oregonian that there's an automated way to regularly archive things from user talk pages, but he/she did not respond. At least what you wrote wasn't a complaint. You were just letting him/her know something. The fact that he/she deleted it at least means that he/she saw it. Plus, it's in the page history if you ever want to refer to it.
What did you erase from your talk page that made editors object? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfair Deletion Decision

Dear Auntof6,

I’m very disappointed in the result of the deletion discussion of the article I put up, especially because the editor who Deleted it didn’t state why and that he makes less than 1 edit a day and is not very active, to have the ability to delete articles. I spent a lot of time fixing it up and for people to call it a hoax is unfair, when many of web, book, magazine, etc. references are there just for the looking. What I didn’t know was that “simple” means elementary school level. So I’ve completely rewritten it in that simple style. I’m putting it at User_talk:Neversplittens rather than as another article to avoid wasting everyone’s time in case there is still a fatal flaw. I’ve put the contents of some of the references in footnotes so there is no question about the content of the articles. Then if this is okay I’ll make a new article out of this. Simplewp seems to be your project, judging from the very few active participants and your heavy involvement. I’ll let you judge this new article. I’d make a sandbox but I haven’t figured out how to do that yet. Thanks. Neversplittens (talk) 19:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Quick deletion of British boarding school

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The page you wrote, British boarding school, has been selected for quick deletion. If you think this page should be kept, please add {{wait}} below the line {{QD}} and say why on the talk page. If the page is already gone, but you think this was an error, you can ask for it to be undeleted. You can find more information about the reason here. Auntof6 (talk) 19:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your contributions for Sri Lanka's presidents! --Aaqib Waramchoi (talk) 20:54, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for warning me and for correcting the mistake.--Rettelo (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One last ?

Hello. Can a Wikipedia user like me update the DYK section on the main page. Two weeks in a row, the update took a long time to actually update, so I'm wondering if I can update in? Thanks a bunch. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk), 3 June 2013, 20:26 (UTC).

Hmmm, I don't know. Why don't you look to see who has updated that queues in the past, and ask them. They should know. Sorry I can't help! --Auntof6 (talk) 15:42, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for the nice note about my misattribution while creating Bing Russell. I really didn't know: this was my first article creation here. All the best. Fylbecatulous talk 15:28, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey. I have to remove that stuff again, because it's a copyright violation of the source given in the edit summary. Osiris (talk) 12:14, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, OK. I didn't notice that. Thanks for letting me know. Will you let the IP editor and Curtaintoad know that it's not because of being unsourced? --Auntof6 (talk) 12:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Curtaintoad has let the user know. The page has a history of copyvios and other issues, despite its tiny size, that's the only reason I knew to check it out. Osiris (talk) 12:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:57, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Sportspeople (or sportsperson or sportsman or sportswoman) means hunter or fisher(wo)man in America. The Sportsman Channel US cable channel is devoted to hunting and fishing, for example. I don't understand why you've changed the word "athlete" in every category. It's very confusing. Was there a consensus arrived on this change? I must have missed it. Oregonian2012 (talk) 17:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sportspeople actually refers to anyone that is involved with a sport in America. Wikipedia uses it to be the most generic term for someone involved in sports. Athlete is a very specific type of sportsperson. ie someone who takes part in athletics. The issue is that America uses athlete inter-changeably with sportsperson a lot of the time to mean the same thing, but in the majority of the world an Athlete is someone who takes part in Athletics only (ie track and field). -DJSasso (talk) 18:13, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In American English, Sportsman is almost exclusively used for only a select group of sports (outdoor sports). Of the first 30 google hits, only 2 are not related to outdoors activity (one of which is Wikipedia). Sportsperson does better at the meaning although the first dicdef listed includes "esp of the outdoor type". This is basically a case of shifting from American English to Commonwealth English which probably should have been discussed prior to such a large change. As to its actual meaning, "anyone that is involved with a sport", that also would include owners, managers, team physicians, etc. and not just the athletes themselves so many of these categories will now need to be reexamined to pick up all the other articles that belong in them under this definition. Athletes was separate under sportspeople to separate those who actively took part in the action and those who were involved in a secondary capacity. As this is no longer the case, anyone involved in sports fits here.--Creol(talk) 20:14, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly agree it is often used for just that subset. But there are things like this en:Sportsman of the Year which is talking about anyone in any sport and is a major American award that athletes/sportsman can win. So it certainly isn't a case of American English just using one or the other. You very often see various athletes being called a sportsman in North America. I had fixing these categories on my to-do list for a couple of years. Glad to see Auntof6 taking care of it. As for the expanded definition they already are in a lot of these categories that were called sportspeople for years. Its only the athletes ones that were missing them and they can be populated organically as any other new category would be. -DJSasso (talk) 16:21, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Odd that you pick that award as it is given to "the athlete or team whose performance that year most embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." It's name comes from the sportsmanship aspect of the athletes (or teams). Most of the related pages on that article also use the term athlete. Looking at the popularity of the terms on En.Wikipedia at Google, Sportsperson gets 9.7K hits, Sportsman - 17K, athlete - 90K (-athletics gets 56K). Athlete is nearly 10x more likely to be the term used in a Wikipedia article but I doubt there are 10x as many Athletics competitor articles as other athlete articles. En's policy is to use the term sportsperson, but in practice they rarely ever use the term outside of policy mandated naming. --Creol(talk) 17:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I only picked that one because its the one that jumped to mind first. But there are many such examples. But what you have said does go to show that there are a number of different uses. I also might note that I am not sure exactly what search you used to find your numbers but if you use "sportspeople" and search for only pages I get 1 million results. But I am sure that isn't how you searched cause I did it with athlete and got a much larger number as well. :) So probably doesn't mean anything. -DJSasso (talk) 17:45, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I searched the site itself ( Sportperson) rather than just the site name and terms. Just the site gave the numbers as nearly 100x greater use of Athlete. (31 million to .35mil, 1.9 for sportsman but that is weighed heavily for the US use of the term) Either search format, the term Athlete is more prevalent in English usage by an order(s) of magnitude. --Creol(talk) 18:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the specific terms (hurdler, footballer, gymnast, figure skater, etc.) might be used more often than the generic term "sportsperson/man/woman" where appropriate. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:24, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As Djsasso said, Wikipedia uses "sportsperson" as the generic term, and "athlete" to mean someone who does what Americans call "track and field" sports. We had both "athlete" and "sportsperson" categories for the US, but they were a mix of track and field sports and other sports. I left some "athlete" categories for the US, but renamed them to "track and field athletes" to be clearer for American readers. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:30, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You will need to go back and {{popcat}} many of those created as they were created when there were only 1-2 article that would go in them. I also noticed a couple that you created that I will likely be QDing as empty cats in a couple days as there are no articles on this wiki to put into them. --Creol(talk) 20:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will do that. Are you planning to QD the ones that I redirected? I wouldn't mind that. We/I might just need to keep an eye on them to make sure that they have appropriate entries if they get recreated. I was concerned that people might categorize someone as an "athlete" when it really should be "sportsperson", so I left the redirects. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alto Adige

Hello Autnof6,

I have removed the qd tag from Alto Adige. In my opinion, this is a workable copy, and a not too bad "translation". I have simplified the intro, and will work on it a little more, if I find the time. If you still think the page needs deletion, please nominate it for regular deletion. --Eptalon (talk) 08:44, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Thanks for letting me know! --Auntof6 (talk) 08:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry for not assuming good faith, It is just I started a new tool named Twinkle and it stated "VANDALSIM" next to your edit. Sorry for the inconvenience. --Aaqib Talk!| Hola! 19:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

*headdesk* -- Osiris (talk) 02:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I quote from EN wiki: "You take full responsibility for any action you perform using Twinkle. You must understand Wikipedia policies and use this tool within these policies, or risk being blocked from editing." Chenzw  Talk  03:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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...for cleaning up. I was about to revert myself. Savh Talk 15:55, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coat (dog)

Hello, there is new page named Coat (dog) and the creator stated in his summary said "copied from Wikipedia". I am concern because it resists our "Copyright" Violation Rules. Best regards --Aaqib Hola! 22:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copying articles from another Wikipedia is allowed if we give attribution (and make them simple, of course). The editor did add an attribution template, which I moved to the talk page. I already asked the editor to specify the exact version of the English Wikipedia article that was the basis for the article here. If he/she does that, then there is no copyright violation. Does that answer your concern? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yep! Thanks. --Aaqib Hola! 22:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Movies by directors nationality

When dealing with a grouping for movies by directors of a specific nationality, both "movies" and "directors" should be plural as you are dealing with multiple directors and movies (unless you went with movies by a British director). As you will notice in en:category:Films by director nationality (singular there as it is talking about each singular director), all subcats use both plurals. --Creol(talk) 01:06, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree if the categories were for all movies by directors of the given nationality. Such categories could have both subcategories and pages for individual movies. However, the categories appeared to be parent categories for subcategories of movies by specific directors. Notice that one of the parent categories is Category:Movies by director. That is why I changed them. I can see how the wording is ambiguous. We could, for example, put Category:Movies by American director underneath Category:Movies by American directors. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:21, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The problem here is that when readers see "Movies by American director", they are not seeing it as "Movies separated by which American made them". They are seeing "Movies made by American directors". The word "by" has a completely different meaning in the two usages.
Yes, it does have a different meaning. We have that conflict in one or two other places as well. So we have the following categories (using American movies as the example):
I think the first one is fine, but what would you suggest for the other two? I see these options:
I don't really have a strong preference. I was just trying to make the category name match what the categories were being used for. I think the movie area is a little over-categorized anyway. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Inherited problems

Hi Auntof6, I have been looking at the enWiki pages of the Mayflower passengers, and this is the source of most of the problems. Frankly they are very badly written and contain all of the faults that we have been trying to fix here. MySweetMelissa has double trouble, trying to simplify something that is just not up to scratch. She has been making an effort to correct problems so the mentoring is working. We need content creators so the effort is worth it.--Peterdownunder (talk) 12:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. I've noticed that the articles are improving. I think her attitude still could use some improvement, though. I really took offense at some of her comments about my changes, and it doesn't help that it's apparently OK for other people to make the same or similar changes. However, I'll get over that eventually. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:50, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I know you will :) --Peterdownunder (talk) 12:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hey. Can you please find the appropriate interwiki for Pore (skin) for me? I connected it with Sweat gland - is that correct? Osiris (talk) 12:19, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's a good match. The gland is what produces the sweat; the pore is the opening through which the sweat exits. I don't see a good match on enwiki, but I found one on French Wikipedia -- fr:Pore (peau). I'll make the connection. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:32, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merci! Osiris (talk) 12:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cakey-Bakey Little Cake!

Cakey-Bakey Little Cake!
Thank you much for all you do!
Here's some cake, just for you!

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Thanks, Oregonian. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Chocolate chip cookies.jpg TDKR Chicago 101 has given you some cookies! Now enjoy them!

Thank you for all the help you have given me over the months. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what I did, but thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another account

Hello Auntof6, I have made a doppleganger account named User:Aaqibo2 to prevent impersonation vandals. Is that okay for me to create another account. Because I had no bad history of alternative accounts. Plus, I believe I am mature enough to settle with two accounts. --Aaqib ♥ Hola! 18:41, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not that familiar with the policy on doppelganger accounts, so I have asked the admins to reply here. Please watch this page so they won't need to leave you a talkback message. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:44, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to put this here but in the interests of not spreading it across yet more talk pages, I have replied to this here, as it was the first I saw. Aaqib, there is no need to post this across multiple user's talk pages when it has been made clear that a response would get put here. Goblin 22:47, 21 June 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Kennedy![reply]

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Good Article questions

Hello! I'm wondering if my article James Gandolfini can be a good article. It has good reliable sources in every sentence in the article. I know it's a long shot, but can you write suggestions on what to fix on the article, so that it can be a good one. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:51, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Places → settlements

Heya. Are you sure about that move? In the New York lists, it looks like there are also buildings and parks. Maybe it's census-designated places? No idea. Bit of an odd assortment of things really, and if not CDPs then it's a very vague inclusion criteria. Either of them would be better done with categories, I think, but I just thought I'd make sure you know that it's not all settlements. Osiris (talk) 06:24, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any particular move? Was it the whole set, or some specific one(s)? --Auntof6 (talk) 06:30, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, good question. Give me a second and I'll get back to you. Osiris (talk) 06:31, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Like the Guatemala one has archaeological sites and natural features in it. The others I think are okay, but the New York lists I'm still not sure what they're actually listing. I also replied to your other thing. Osiris (talk) 06:47, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll take a look at them. I'm tempted to split the articles instead of undoing my changes, because I'm not sure how useful it is to mix, for example, hamlets and airports like I see in one of the New York ones. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, i proposed your RFA Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Auntof6.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 15:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Reception123: I think you should ask the editor first. On the other hand, I second the idea. --LlamaAl (talk) 21:28, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I realized that now.I am waiting to see the answer...--Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 06:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm thinking about it. I've never wanted to be an admin, but I'm giving it some thought. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:32, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 06:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See User talk:Auntof6/Archives/2013#Adminship. ~ curtaintoad ~~ talk ~ 06:41, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Curtaintoad I saw the discussion.Anyways, maybe Auntof6 is going to change his mind this month maybe not.We will just wait.Reception123 / Receptie123 (talk) 06:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So, Auntof. Did you make up your mind yet? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:02, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. Is there some hurry? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As you're giving it some thought this time around, my previous offer of a nomination is definitely still open should you wish to take it up. If you do wish to take me up on my offer let me know, otherwise good luck whichever way you decide to go. Kennedy (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(desperately trying to remain as neutral as possible) There has been at least one case in the past where a candidate gets 3 nominations in a single RfA, so I hope that the fact that the page was created without your knowledge will not hold you back. Also, in RfAs, we usually evaluate the candidate, and not really the quality of the nomination statement... Chenzw  Talk 

OK, I've accepted. Co-nominations from those who offered are welcome. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 03:58, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

So happy your here Auntof6, I hope you become an admin! --Aaqib Hola! 21:46, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Auntof6, Did you accept the admin nomination? I am not saying accept it but I hope! I really cannot wait until your admin! --Aaqib Hola! 00:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Aaqib. I'm thinking about the nomination. Actually, though, I think people are sometimes way too interested in being admins. I don't see it as a status or popularity thing, but as a responsibility, so I need to give it serious thought. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Which is exactly what it is; a few extra buttons and no big deal. A very refreshing viewpoint. Goblin 21:10, 23 June 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Gordonrox24![reply]
I know :)! I want you to become an admin because you can purify Wikipedia! A huge support buddy! --Aaqib Hola! 21:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by "purify Wikipedia"? --Auntof6 (talk) 08:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata summary

Hello Auntof6, why do you have Wikidata weekly summaries? How can you get them? I want Wikidata summaries to! --Aaqib Hola! 20:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, how do I get my own bot? --Aaqib Hola! 20:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I get the summaries because I'm interested in the Wikidata project. You can sign up here to get the summaries.
You get a bot flag by requesting it at Wikipedia talk:Bots. I'll warn you, though, I think it's very unlikely that you'd be approved for it. What would you want it for? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question about the Wikipedia

Hello! I'm wondering if there's an age limit for the Wikipedia. I'm just a teenager (young). Is that okay? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Age limit for what? You have to be at least 18 years old to be a checkuser or an oversighter. I don't know of any other age restrictions. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine, TDKR. Just don't publish any personal information. Osiris (talk) 08:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Auntof6, I have seen your email. Don't worry about it - you are not alone. ;) I am rushing to go out soon, so I will try replying to your email while on the go. Chenzw  Talk  00:48, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hey. I'm sorry it's just I'm not as interested anymore. I've given up on the good article thing. Thanks for your help anyway. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Question about bot

Hello, sorry for disturbing you for such "minor" things but I have one question. Not how do I approve a bot but "How do I make a bot script and where do I put it?". Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 18:34, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're not disturbing me! However, I don't know the answer. I have a bot account, but I don't use scripts with it. You might get more help if you ask at WP:Simple talk. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok that's fine if you have a bot account! How do you get yours to work? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:25, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't use mine the way most bot accounts here are used. I use it with AutoWikiBrowser to make certain kinds of changes. Instead of logging into AutoWikiBrowser with my regular account, I log in with the bot account. Most of the bots here are used with scripts, but I don't know how to do that coding. Does that answer your question? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:32, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you for answering so quickly also! I will ask in Simple Talk. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wait... Since we were talking a bit about AWB, how does AWB work for users and how do they get it? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean by "how does it work for users". To get authorized to use it, make a request at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. Before you make a request, I would look at the other requests there to see what kinds of things the admins are willing to approve, and read the overview about it here on English Wikipedia. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thank you for making it clear. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:58, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TDKR Articles

I've just simplified all the articles. If there's any problems write them in the article's talk pages. Please write back. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:12, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

QD requests (resons: transwikied page)

Hello Auntof6,

your QD requests, on the grounds that the page was imported/copied from another Wikipedia come rather fast. If the page was copied, it is likely going to be simplified. If it isn't, it can be quick deleted. In my opinion, you should leave the authors about a week, for simplifying. Thanks. --Eptalon (talk) 08:26, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I see your point, although I'd prefer to see the articles fixed up a lot sooner. I'd like to see more people work on the articles in their userspace to get them ready. How would you suggest keeping track of such pages for follow up? It could be done with {{complex}} tags, but a lot of TPTB (The Powers That Be) don't like tagging, either. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Happy to see you on the "administrator's logs"! Keep up the good work, you might even receive a golden award by me! --Aaqib 21:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your RfA

Your brand-new admin T-shirt
... and your brand-new mop.

Hi Auntof6, congratulations on your successful RfA. You may want to take the time to refresh yourself on the policies. Do feel free to ask if you are unsure of anything. Chenzw  Talk  09:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Chenzw and everyone who supported my rfa. I'm sure I'll have lots of questions for the other admins. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:43, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats from me, I'm sure you'll be a great admin. If you have any questions my talk page is always open. Best of luck, -Mh7kJ (talk) 13:46, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Congratulations and wish you all the best with the mop! I hope you will find the admin tools useful and decide to stay as admin. ~ curtaintoad ~~ talk ~ 11:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, I am sure that, in time you will be a great admin! Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 14:25, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations Auntof6! I'm sure you will make an excellent admin. I really wish the best of luck for you! September 1988 (talk) 15:44, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations Ao6! Well deserved. :) You'll find the link to the secret admin page on the left <-- :P Kennedy (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, please do subscribe to the admin mailing list if you haven't already, and if you use IRC, let me know and I'll give you access to our secret cabal channel. ;) -Mh7kJ (talk) 15:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I just subscribed (I think). I've gotten on IRC a few times, but either no one was there at the time or I wasn't doing it right. In either case, I'd like to use it, so go ahead and give me the ultra top secret access. :) I look forward to helping overthrow the overlords working with everyone. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:12, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, there are always people present - just that most of us idle around so that we can keep tabs on everyone because we leave the IRC client running in the background Face-smile.svg. Chenzw  Talk  16:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also congratulations from me! Please mail me, so I can verify your mail address. I saw that you send a subscription request already, but I haven't had the chance to get this done. Sorry for that! As soon as you mail me, I will add you to the list. Regards, -Barras talk 21:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Jesse Waugh

Admins can tag pages for QD, but you need to check the "tag page only, don't delete" box at the top of the Twinkle QD box. :) -Mh7kJ (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I've tried and tried to figure it out on my own... How are you doing that thing with popups? I want to know!!! Osiris (talk) 22:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First you have to enable Navigation popups as a gadget, in your settings. Then you can customize it. Look at my Javascript page. The option popupFixDabs=true; is the one that lets you fix dab links. After you enable it, when you hover on a link to a dab page, there is a section at the bottom of the popup that shows all the links on the dab page (they're in green). Click on the one you want, and watch the magic! --Auntof6 (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You might have to clear your cache for it to take effect. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:03, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hooray! Incredible. Thank you! Face-smile.svg Osiris (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome! That's one of my favorite gadgets. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:07, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


You did revert my edits, I am okay with that. But anyway, his edits were not shown and not needed. --Aaqib 21:13, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the ones about the fossil ranges? That is shown as a valid parameter on the Taxobox template. I'll look at the template to see why it doesn't show. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:22, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now I get it. I thought it wouldn't be fixed. --Aaqib 21:23, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

San Fernando

Hey. Was there a primary topic for this or can we move it to San Fernando? Just noticed it when adding interwikis. Osiris (talk) 11:27, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I moved it. I had been thinking that a Saint Ferdinand might be the primary topic. However, looking at enwiki, the only Saint Ferdinand is en:Ferdinand III of Castile, and I think more people would be looking for one of the places. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your change to Broadway

What was the reason for changing the stub for Broadway? Because it clearly said it was a street. --Aaqib 19:22, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was just leaving you a talk message about this! Steets come under transport.
is more for settlements and geographical features like mountains and lakes. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:24, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is a specific stub: {{US-geo-stub}} on Broadway. --Aaqib 22:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That one would not work, because Broadway is about a street. The geo stubs are not for streets. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Good move with the redirect, at first glance it looked like nonsense, but didn't realize it was a character from a notable TV show. I guess you've reminded me that searching en is always a good idea before making deletion decisions, which I've done many times before, but perhaps this is part of getting back into the swing of things. So thank you for that. :) — RyanCross (talk) 03:51, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, and welcome back to editing here! --Auntof6 (talk) 05:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Flood flag?

Hi there,

when you do many small changes using AWB, can you grant yourself the flood flag, so as not to flood recent changes? - Thanks. --Eptalon (talk) 11:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I could. However, in the past I was asked to request a flood flag if I was going to do more than about 100 of the same kind of change at a time. I don't expect to go over 100 with my current task. I'm also flagging them as minor for easy suppression from editors' displays. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:13, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bustan (garden)

Hi. i try to find more information and links and unfortunately I could not find much more. פארוק (talk) 21:04, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


First you make a completely unnecessary revert to stop the Bible being quoted on a page - guess what- ABOUT THE BIBLE- then you have the overweening arrogance to insult anyone who disagrees with your completely needless secularization of the page ( about the Bible) . You are not fit to to edit here. Are you your own judge and jury? (talk) 23:27, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think a quote by itself like that serves a purpose in an article about any book. However, I respected your point of view by not taking it off of the page a second time. It was you who were out of line by calling my original change vandalism without explaining where the vandalism was, and by saying some of the things you said here. The article is about the Bible, but it is a Wikipedia article and Wikipedia is secular, so making the article secular is completely appropriate. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:09, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not big enough to apologise? Ok then. (talk) 00:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The quote adds no value to the article. This is an editorial decision and has nothing to do with religion. If you decide to add the quote to Wikisource, which is a more suitable project, by all means go ahead. Chenzw  Talk  03:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Swapping an article and a redirect

Thanks for helping with OS X! What is the proper way to request an "article/redirect swap", so that I know next time the situation comes up? The Anonymouse (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Tag the page for quick delete using option G6 (Housekeeping) and include a note explaining what you want. I see that you use Twinkle: Twinkle gives you a box to enter some text, and you can put the explanation there. Does that help? --Auntof6 (talk) 08:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, thanks. The Anonymouse (talk) 08:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Declined speedy

In regards to [3], this is quite clearly a spambot posting. You may want to also be aware of m:Things to consider When Purchasing Pink Wedding Dresses, created by the same IP. --Rschen7754 04:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I declined the QD because the reason given (advertising) didn't apply. That doesn't mean I think it's a worthy article: I don't As far as I can see, the article is a "how-to", something that Wikipedia is not. I just didn't see a QD criterion that applied, and I didn't have time to rfd it myself. I don't know what was on the Meta page, but the page here isn't promoting a specific company so I don't see it as advertising. Please feel free to rfd it. If no one else does, I'll do it myself when I'm back on my main computer. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is advertising - it promotes a website. Seriously, I've tagged hundreds of these on many Wikimedia sites, and had them deleted too. --Rschen7754 05:36, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And steward MF-Warburg has also globally blocked the IP for cross-wiki spamming. --Rschen7754 05:40, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, cool, Rschen. But I saw no website mentioned. Maybe it was mentioned on meta, but I didn't see it here. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:53, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was hidden in the third and fourth paragraphs. --Rschen7754 21:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I just proposed the RfD. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) It has been QD'd as a copyright violation. The Anonymouse (talk) 06:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, then it's taken care of. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:53, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Chalet Robinson

Hey Ao6, hope you are well? I was about to delete this - I don't think QD'ing it is a good idea if you're wishing the user will expand the article. A RfD gives a weeks leeway whereas a QD gives pretty much none... Consider changing to RfD or removing tag? Thoughts? Kind regards, Kennedy (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm well, thanks. I have no objection to you deleting. I'm trying not to be overzealous in quick deleting things myself, because I know people have disagreed with my assessments of notability in the past. However, if another admin (e.g., you) thinks it's QD-worthy, that's good enough for me. I did a search and found nothing other than travel guide-type stuff, so I doubt it's very expandable. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:21, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - No probs, I was just keeping per your QD reason "I want to give the author a chance to show notability." I agree with your notability criteria though so its gone. :) Kennedy (talk) 20:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hi! Nanoshell was a copy of an article originally published on You copy-edited the page, but the duplication report indicates that is still way too close to the source. What would you like to do? You can delete it, rewrite it even further, or cut it down to a single sentence? Osiris (talk) 20:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! Thanks for the info. I'll delete it. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a page with content from another page

Hi! I created a page: Lütfi Mestan. But another user removed the content and created a new article with the content. Is it regular? --Eng-men (talk) 01:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eng-men, it looks like User:Amigo arkadaslar created a page about the same person, but with a different spelling of the name. Maybe Amigo didn't know the other page existed, or maybe he/she thought the spelling should match the article on English Wikipedia. If the issue was that the spelling needed to be changed, I would have just moved the article instead of creating a new one. In either case, we don't keep two articles about the same thing, so one of them had to either be deleted or changed to a redirect. Amigo changed the article you wrote to a redirect. I don't see a bit problem with any of that. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:29, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Problem is cleaning history of the page. History merge will be good for keeping history. Thank you. --Eng-men (talk) 16:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Auntof6, you could do a history merge here (minus revision 4343852, which would cause a conflict). It'd be a good exercise if you haven't done it before. Creol showed me how to do one on my first day as an administrator. Here are the instructions. To leave revision 4343852 behind, there's an extra step: Before you move Lütfi Mestan ("article1"), delete it and then restore every version except for revision 4343852 (the latest revision, wherein Amigo redirects the page). You can restore that revision after you've moved the rest into Lyutvi Mestan ("article2"), although you won't really need to if you automatically leave a redirect behind in the move. Osiris (talk) 02:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm always up for a good learning opportunity! Would that be helpful here, though, given that the two articles were almost identical anyway? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:29, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you would only really do it in cases where the two versions are the same or very similar to one another (i.e., one version is obviously derived from the other). A history merge just keeps everything together and helps to show who the work comes from. Osiris (talk) 23:18, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish locations for Paralympians. :)

Thanks for those fixes. I was actually going to ping you to request assistance on those, but was holding off until I finished with the rest of the lot. (I am on page 59 of 65 of all time Paralympic competitors, with about 1 to 3 Paralympians a page.) Having the locations is really handy for asking for translations on other language Wikipedias. :) --LauraHale (talk) 11:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Every once in a while I go through Special:WantedCategories and resolve the ones I can. FYI, all I'm doing is looking up the locations you give on English Wikipedia to see which autonomous community they're in.
Let me know when you're done, and I'll go through and take the accents out of the defaultsorts, like we talked about before. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:09, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. I am hoping to accomplish that this week. I run into some issues because the Spanish and English names are not always the same and I know for a few like the Baelaric (sp) Islands, it has taken me a bit to figure that one out. (I have figured out the Canary Islands.) As I am dealing with bulk, I am somewhat trying to add categories I know will be redlinked but I think should be blue categories by the time I am done. (Page 61 started of 65 now.) --LauraHale (talk) 11:47, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And there were fewer than I thought! Joy! :) All the Spanish Parlaympic medalist stubs should now be created. --LauraHale (talk) 14:16, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. I'll take care of the defaultsorts when I'm back on my main computer. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:57, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I took care of the defaultsort values. There were also a few other things that AWB caught -- a few duplicated words, and one or two other things. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you !

Thank you for all the help !.— Preceding unsigned comment added by פארוק (talkcontribs)

Carolyn Keene

Hi Auntof6,

Do we need a category for pseudonyms? I was thinking about this when searching for a cat for Carolyn Keene.--Peterdownunder (talk) 04:53, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why not, if we have enough of them. Did you want me to create it, or are you just getting another opinion? --Auntof6 (talk) 04:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have enough? If we do, then I will let you do it :)--Peterdownunder (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, yeah, it looks like we have enough. I'll get to it in a bit. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Popups dab

The only glitch I'm noticing with that popups disambiguator thing is that it expands interwiki links to Wiktionary. Instead of using the abbreviated form [[wikt: which is how the link is actually coded on the page, it uses [[wiktionary: which leads to the English Wiktionary. That's one thing that I'll need to watch out for when I'm using it, wasn't sure if you already knew about that. Osiris (talk) 05:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't. Thanks for the info. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, is the dab fixing even working for you? Right now when I try it, it just brings up the page in edit mode without any changes being made.
Yeah it's working okay for me... Osiris (talk) 08:28, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Problem ?

I have imported a number of templates which may have stuffed a few things up, I have found a couple of script errors. Have you seen any other new errors? I may have to revert all my changes.--Peterdownunder (talk) 02:36, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I've noticed any errors, or if I have I didn't connect them with a template problem. What kind of problems are they causing? --Auntof6 (talk) 02:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I appear to have lost a template on all the Australian electoral division pages causing a script error, eg Division of Hunter.--Peterdownunder (talk) 02:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Another one: cite book is brokem too - see Alan Turing for example, --Peterdownunder (talk) 02:42, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see that, and I see it on an article I added {{cite book}} to earlier. I will let you know if I see any others. Right now I'm mostly going over new articles, though, and those tend not to have many templates at all. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The birth death template broke too. Oh dear. I shall go through and revert the lot.--Peterdownunder (talk) 02:48, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit war with Spatms

I was checking the Arkansas–LSU football rivalry and Auburn–LSU football rivalry pages and found that the user Spatms had redirected them to Battle for the Golden Boot and Tiger Bowl, respectively. This user did so by cutting and pasting the content of those articles to the redirect. After I pointed this out, User Malik Shabazz was kind enough to restore the content back to their previous locations. However, Spatms is ignoring that and reverting them back. Could you please block this user and end this edit war, please? AL2896 (talk) 08:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're on the wrong Wikipedia. This is Simple English Wikipedia (sewiki), and it looks like the edits you're talking about happened on the English Wikipedia (enwiki). I don't even see those users here. You need to ask for help at enwiki. Sorry I can't help. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Movies by composer

Hello. I recently created a category about movie with their composers. Is there anything wrong with it or is it fine? Please write on my talk page. Thanks. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:41, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It looked pretty good. I changed a sort key and added the parent category tag. I also linked it in Wikidata with the corresponding enwiki category. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:17, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Oh can an article of a movie become a good article? I'm currently fixing Man of Steel and simplifying and updating information. I'm not aiming for a Good Article nomination on it, but I hope someday it can be. Oh and talking about Good Articles, I've been writing to other users about making Nelson Mandela a good article. Do have any thoughts about it? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, Auntof6! Thanks for your this edit. I don't know much about the simple English but you just helped me, thanks. Please also help regarding Boota Singh and Zainab Singh. Thanks a lot. --Itar buttar (talk) 01:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And I wanna create a category for Punjabi films, what it would be named: "Punjabi-language films", "Punjabi films", "Punjabi-language movies" or "Punjabi movies"? Plz answer. Thanks. --Itar buttar (talk) 01:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. About Boota Singh and Zainab Singh: how about if I move them to your user space so you can work on them? I'd rather help you learn how to do the work than to do it myself. Otherwise, I think they're going to be deleted because they appear to be copied from English Wikipedia, so let me know ASAP if you'd like me to do that. By the way, when you copy articles here from English Wikipedia, you have to give attribution. You can read more about that at Wikipedia:Transwiki attribution.
As for the category for Punjabi films, if you mean they're in the Punjabi language, it should be called "Punjabi language movies". Here on Simple English Wikipedia, we use the word "movie" instead of "film". Just be sure there are already at least three articles for the category before you create it -- we require that here to keep the categories simple.
Let me know if you have any other questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:33, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be here if any. Thanks. :-) --Itar buttar (talk) 08:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the record ... and a trick

Hi, Aunt. I wouldn't want you to think that I automatically assumed that Gwib was male over on Peter's talk page. I actually used the {{gender}} magic word to get that. So I would, e.g., code your last sentence as

I would be sure to let Gwib know what you're doing, even though {{gender:Gwib|he|she|s/he}} might not be here much any more.

For Gwib, that parses out as

I would be sure to let Gwib know what you're doing, even though he might not be here much any more.

Substituting your username for Gwib, that parses out as

I would be sure to let Auntof6 know what you're doing, even though s/he might not be here much any more.

If nothing else, it's taught me a little about how the wiki markup coding works. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:43, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's cool. Does it get the information from whether the user has identified their gender? --Auntof6 (talk) 20:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It does—so I presume you haven't. If you do that at some point (even if only to test it), you may have to purge the page, but it will update. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:50, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You can also build it into userboxes using the construction {{gender:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|male output|female output|n/s output}}. That way it will evaluate correctly on any individual's user page. (When the base page name is not a user page, as in template space, it evaluates to n/s.) StevenJ81 (talk) 20:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #69

ESL users

I'm feeling increasingly overwhelmed with all of these new pages from ESL editors. You're pretty much the only editor who consistently helps out on NewPages. But it doesn't seem like there's an end in sight. With the exception of Arnaud Lambert, they're all blocked on their home wikis. Lambert also seems to be the only one who is showing any signs of improvement. Faroukh (פארוק) isn't too much work to keep up with, because he's not around all that much. Wikiman897/ is testing my resolve- many of his edits make very little sense, and the fact that he's been blocked [4] on his home-language wiki (fiwiki) for 'making a mess or increasing garbage' (according to Google Translate) is not a good sign. J 1982 has been blocked on svwiki and dewiki, but I think his articles only need some refinement. I am posting a message to J 1982 now about fixing his pages up. What do you think about Wikiman897? Osiris (talk) 06:32, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look at his stuff in a bit and get back to you, but I know what you mean. I've started to see that some of our principles/practices are in conflict. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, but you have to be able to write in the language of the Wikipedia you're writing for. The target audience of Simple English Wikipedia is people with lower English skills, and that's who we have writing a lot of the articles. However, people with lower English skills can't necessarily write simple English. Their intentions are good, but they don't have the experience needed to get a feel for what's simple and what's complex. It's tempting for them to think that since their English is limited, then what they know must also be simple, but that's not necessarily the case. I'd say more, but I don't want to offend anyone else who might be reading this. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:06, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. I've just replaced two of his new pages with the leads from enwiki because they were basically incomprehensible and the enwiki versions were at least able to be understood. I don't know what else to do. I can't keep following after him rewriting every edit. Anyway, have a look over the edits when you have time and get back to me. If the problem doesn't go away I may have to add a thread on ST. Osiris (talk) 10:11, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see what you mean. I've just been over two of his recent articles, and they needed a lot of work. If they are representative of his work here, then he needs some guidance as well as the other editor you talked to recently. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Technically we do have a course of action in these situations. Its WP:COMPETENCE and especially the section Wikipedia:COMPETENCE#Language difficulty. But its a tricky one to invoke as its a bit of a slippery slope. So if it is a very clear case, especially if they are blocked on their home wikis already then you could invoke it as part of their one strike (albeit a good faith strike). -DJSasso (talk) 11:45, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's only an essay, not even a guideline. I don't see how we could use it to take announcedany action. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, it is never appropriate to invoke only WP:COMPETENCE when blocking, because it gives rise to a slippery slope. WP:COMPETENCE is best used together with other policies/guidelines (the two most relevant come to mind: WP:CIVIL, en:WP:DISRUPTION). The spirit behind this is to consider if an editor is causing damage/disruption to the wiki as a result of his actions, and if the damage done outweighs the benefits that s/he brings to the wiki (if any). Trying the establish dialogue with the editors would be a good first step; once that fails, depending on the severity of disruption, a block/community ban can be considered. Chenzw  Talk  12:05, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Chenzw basically sums it up, you use it in conjunction with another guideline/policy such as disruption. If their incompetence is causing a disruption to others editing or reading of the site then that is what you would use to invoke it. Essentially it is almost always used in combination with disruption. Because the incompetence wouldn't be an issue if it wasn't being disruptive. -DJSasso (talk) 12:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Working Man's Barnstar Hires.png The Working Man's Barnstar
You contribute so much to this Wikipedia, you are one of the best users here. I hope you never leave this wiki! Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 07:27, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Receptie! --Auntof6 (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome! --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 10:04, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Creating categories

Thank you. i will add more articles so that be three to the category. פארוק (talk) 05:30, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Transwiki attrib. and new pages

I saw the instructions you added to the Transwiki Attribution re: our conversation on my talk page the last couple of days. I found another page on this subject you may or may not be aware of. The guideline is Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia. On line 15 is much the same information you gave me. I thought you might consider using this article to help get other editors on the right track quickly. This one is informative and although I had worked out the steps myself, and the version number with your help, I think this covers most of what an editor would need to know. See if it proves helpful. Rus793 (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The procedure described there is good. I use it myself, such as here. However, there are a couple of issues with it, both related to editors not realizing soon enough that they need to give attribution. One is that after a new article is saved, it's too late to include the URL in the original edit summary. The other issue is that if any time goes by between the time the article is created and the time the editor goes to add attribution, the permanent link on enwiki might not be the right version. For a lot of our editors, I think it's less confusing to give just one method that works in every case, like the method I gave you. If you prefer the method at WP:CW, as I do, by all means use it! --Auntof6 (talk) 02:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Roads in Japan

Hi. i am not finished yet. i a am working on more articles for this category. פארוק (talk) 05:08, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for letting me know. It's better to wait until you have the articles before you create the categories. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:09, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I add two articles. they have no links, but i hope it is ok. פארוק (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I found links that they only in Japanese, but i hope it is ok now. פארוק (talk) 05:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buildings and structures in Baghdad

Hi. can you please help me with that ?. Thank you very much !. פארוק (talk) 14:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I made a couple of changes. What exactly did you want help with? It should be connected in \Wikidata. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:49, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how to connect it to Wikidata. i need this "[Category:Baghdad]" also please. פארוק (talk) 19:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, a bot picked it up and added it to Wikidata. For future reference, I wrote some instructions for this at User:Auntof6/How to#Interwiki language links for new pages. It's good to know how to take care of those.
I don't understand what you mean by needing the Baghdad category. Can you explain? --Auntof6 (talk) 20:07, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. פארוק (talk) 20:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #70

Nelson Mandela GA

Hey Auntof6. I've been working a lot on Nelson Mandela and I think it's a worthy nominee for a Good Article. Can you please leave any suggestions about the article that I can work on. Thanks. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:27, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Where would you like me to leave comments -- on the article talk page? On your talk page? Somewhere else? --Auntof6 (talk) 02:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On my talk page please. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about now? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:58, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The changes you made are all very good! I'm in the middle of something right now, but I'll look at the article again when I get to a stopping point. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well when your done. Can you write other suggestions you might have into the article's talk page. Thanks. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I will. You don't have to keep posting on my talk page. I'm watching your talk page, so you can post in the section I started there. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, it's a little overkill to keep asking a lot of individual people for help with this. If you're generally asking for help, how about putting one request at Simple Talk, then keep the details in one place, such as the talk page of the article or your own talk page? --Auntof6 (talk) 04:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template Documentation

I'm having trouble figuring out what just happened here. What I think happened is:

I'm not sure why that was necessary, but am I right so far?

But then the problem is that the common documentation page has links to five DST templates—but the Australia template, with transclusion of the documentation, still only shows four, as if it is calling the specific documentation page, not the common one. And I don't seem to be able to clear that, by purging page, purging on the transcluded template, or bypassing the cache. So I'm just not sure why this is working the way it's working. Any thoughts? StevenJ81 (talk) 20:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if I messed it up. I was assuming we wanted to use the common doc page because I didn't see a reason to have it otherwise. The Australia template is only showing 4 of the 5 because of the way the common doc page is coded. It's coded so that it doesn't show the template it's attached to. On the North America template, it would leave out the North America item, and so forth. Does that help? Feel free to revert my changes if they're causing a problem. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. I didn't scroll down the coding far enough.
The potential reason to keep the individual doc pages is that we might at some point actually fill in the start/stop date tables, and those are different for each of the templates. For now, I don't have a problem leaving it the way you coded it, but I'm going to leave the "Australia" /doc subpage in place in case I get motivated at some point to create the table. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:55, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #71

Sorry about the three categories

But it was a mistake I lost track of. Thanks for catching up with them. What were they anyways? BTW, your tone could be a little nicer about things. I made a mistake, but you don't need to "rage" about a simple mistake whether you reminded me in the past or not. Let's keep our tempers so we can move on. I'm trying to do my best and sometimes I make a mistake. You don't need to shout. I know you have all those powerful admin tools but please remain the nice person you have been in the past and don't let those powerful tools go to your head. Oregonian2012 (talk) 02:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the list:
If you recreate them, please be sure there are at least three entries, and make sure that they themselves are in appropriate categories. I'm sorry if my tone was too harsh. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think I'll stay away from admin stuff for the rest of today (not that there's much left of today anyway). I've been having pain issues for a week or so, and I think that's affecting my attitude here. I'm sorry I took it out on you. :( --Auntof6 (talk) 04:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Aunt,

I am retiring from Simple, as I feel that my contributions lack value and are pointless. I'm much better at writing in regular English. Thanks for your help and best wishes. WorldTraveller101  ?  03:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC) I decided to not retire. WorldTraveller101  ?  12:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Counts of Anjou

Why was this category changed and lumped into Category:French people? Is this the category we're supposed to use for hundreds of French counts in dozens of medieval dynasties? What of those already in the Category:Counts of Anjou or in the Category:Dukes of Normandy (most were counts as well)? Rus793 (talk) 00:12, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I understand the question. Were the Counts of Anjou not French? If I made a change that you disagree with, can you give me the diff so I can look at it? If we need a category for French nobility, feel free to create it if there are at least three entries for it. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:28, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just didn’t know if this was some change in direction regarding categories or if there was a problem. In looking at Geoffrey II of Anjou I see you've sorted it out so the category can be used to add the remainder of the Angevin counts. Thanks for fixing the date categories as well.Rus793 (talk) 14:54, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad it's straightened out, but I still don't know what you're talking about. I don't see any edits by me on that page. Looking at the category, though, the entire category Category:Counts of Anjou should be under Category:French nobility, instead of each individual person being there. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:33, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, as you say it's straightened out. The change in sub-categories is OK with me. It just appeared that Nobility was the most logical choice. Does this mean you intend to move the other French categories of counts and dukes to the French nobility category as well? If you are going to move the Counts of Anjou as a sub-category of French Nobility, then your change to Henry II, king of England would be moot. I thought perhaps you removed the category French Nobility because he was king of England.Rus793 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Any French counts would fit under French nobility. Dukes would go under the "dukes and duchesses" category, not directly under nobility. I probably don't know just from the name which ones are French, so it would be great if you could do that. I removed Henry because he's already in Dukes and Duchesses of Aquitaine, which is under Dukes and duchesses of France, which is under French nobility. That means that Henry is already under French nobility, just a couple of levels down. Did you also notice that I renamed a couple of the categories to change the case? When a category is for a specific dukedom/duchy, then "Duchesses" is capitalized. Otherwise it's lower case. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can see this from an organizational viewpoint; I’m not sure I see it from the reader’s perspective. If, as per the guideline (WP:CAT), they’re to help users find articles then wouldn't it make sense to include all the major categories this person belonged to? Of course without overdoing it. I’m just not sure navigating up and down the category tree is something we can expect readers to do. So the fact that Henry II of England is linked to the Dukes and Duchesses of Aquitaine and that category to French nobility wouldn’t be the same as listing both—again, from a reader's viewpoint. Another question is: do we put French countesses in the Category:French nobility (which technically they are) or under the various categories of French counts their husbands are classified in? Not all were titled countess during the 9th to 12th centuries. Medieval France had many noblemen, some untitled, who will need categorizing somewhere if not in French nobility (seemingly the logical category). Wouldn't it be better suited as being a sub-category coequal to French counts and dukes and use a different parent category? The nobility of medieval France isn't quite the same as that of England and may present unique problems if it were categorized the same. Is this something that should be discussed in more detail on a different forum?Rus793 (talk) 19:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I don't agree. To me, it doesn't make sense to include all categories someone belongs to when they're subsets of each other. I follow the guideline at Wikipedia:Categories#Choosing the correct category, and I'm not seeing a compelling reason to ignore it in this case. If you think this should be discussed elsewhere, then do so. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:04, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Buster Crabbe (athlete and actor)

Hi! I hope you are feeling better. Could you help me? I want to change Buster Crabbe (athlete and actor) to just Buster Crabbe. There's no reason for the qualifier. I tried to change it, but the Move function won't allow me. Thank you! Oregonian2012 (talk) 01:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done, and I updated all the redirects. You couldn't do the move yourself because there was already a redirect with the name you wanted. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:39, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Oregonian2012 (talk) 04:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #72

Big Forests Weekend


The Big Forests Weekend has now finished in all times zones. Thank you for your contributions to the Big Forests Weekend (BFW). We have created 36 articles and made 152 edits to pages already created, 8 redirects and a few disambiguation's as well. For more information on edits and articles check the organization page. I hope you had fun and that we will have another Big Weekend together! The contributor with most edits was Peterdownunder which beat Auntof6 with one edit.

List of all edits by all users

Peterdownunder : 66

Auntof6 : 65

Macdoanld-ross : 40

Reception123 : 25

Chenzw : 12

Thanks again. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


This is my newest article User:Reception123/Ixelles Ponds. Can you please tell me what could I do to improve it? Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 11:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, let's discuss on the article talk page. I have put some comments there. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
And I have replied. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:57, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commodore Nutt

Hi! The article above is currently at VGA. It requires at least 6 votes to move forward. I'm not asking you to vote "yes", but simply to vote. This article recently passed to GA, and I'm hoping it will pass to VGA. My "head" is still in the subject which, if the article need improvements to get it to VGA, will make it much easier to focus on these improvements. The requirements for VGA tell us that: "Within one week of being listed under the voting section, 80% of named editors must agree that the article is indeed very good. There is a required minimum of 6 named voters." The article has been on the page for three days, it has one "yes" vote, and time is running out. Would you, could you, vote? Please? Thank you, Auntof6! Oregonian2012 (talk) 21:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category: Deaths by city

I am very much against this sort of thing. What possible use is this category, and all its subcategories? Doesn't it lead to the situation in English wiki, whereby biographies carry up to 50 categories, which makes the readers' job in searching so much more difficult. It violates an agreement we had to keep our category and stub systems as simple as possible.

I canvass you because you are our 'category' person, and I value your opinion on this question. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:43, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mac. I don't like these categories, either. They are one area where I think we are over-categorized, where someone created categories just because they could. I'm not sure we need any categories for where people died, whether by city or by country, because I don't see how it's meaningful in most cases.
I also think the categories for how people died are more complex than they need to be. I think identifying people by how they died could be accomplished with one or more list articles if we really need the detail. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:59, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have tried to propose the category for deletion, but the syntax has proved difficult... Macdonald-ross (talk)
I think I fixed it. I copied from a category that I proposed before. I hope I didn't leave anything from the other rfd. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:00, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #73

My newest article

If you have time can you please check my newest article and tell me what updates it could use? (User:Reception123/La Cambre Abbey). Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that, but first tell me something. Do you want to learn how to write good articles yourself, or do you want to write articles and then have people tell you what to change to get them into good shape? Either one is OK, but I'm only interested in doing a lot of work with you if you want to learn to do them yourself. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to learn to do perfect articles myself. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 07:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't think any of us do perfect ones! Anyway, I'll start with things we covered for your previous article that are needed in this one, too. I'll post on the talk page. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 07:55, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I requested a deletion of Solo (music). It's a dicdef. It has not appeared on the RfD page. What have I done wrong? Oregonian2012 (talk) 01:15, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did you use Twinkle to request the rfd? Maybe something went wrong with Twinkle. You could add it manually to the rfd page. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


WT101 is boasting on his user page that he helped Baseball uniform to achieve VGA. He made a few "copy edits" a few days ago (which Osiris reverted as unnecessary) and is now claiming he helped the article to VGA on his user page. Baseball uniform was promoted a long time ago and he had nothing to do with it. He did the same sort of thing to one of Goblin's articles a few days ago. Made a few insignificant "copy edits" and claimed he helped the article to VGA. While I want to assume good faith, his behavior is such that I suspect he's trying to do the same thing with Commodore Nutt and Nelson Mandela. He promoted Nelson Mandela to GA and was told he should not be doing this. I have an article at GA called Coppelia. WT101 tells me it needs more sources. Show me where in the rules that it says an article at GA needs a certain number of sources before promotion. His behavior is disruptive. I'm very depressed. I don't want to do anything here anymore. I really love this site but there are a few immature people running around the place that are creating disruption that makes progress here difficult and trying to make a contribution a nerve-wracking experience. Oregonian2012 (talk) 03:03, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You may or may not be interested to know that WT101 has been blocked for three months at enwiki. It's not the first time and his requests to be unblock have been denied. Stuff about personal attacks. Cursing. I've had a bad feeling about him well before I checked his user page at enwiki. I think he's dangerous. If I've read his page correctly he drove someone to "retire" at enwiki. At this point I feel like doing the same thing. Oregonian2012 (talk) 04:05, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Let's calm down here. First, we can't control what a user puts on their user page. I never take anything on a user page as gospel without verifying it. Second, there will always be difficult people to deal with, here and IRL. All we can do is help them learn. I don't think we've tried enough here yet with WT to give up. I will look at WT's changes to see if I see a pattern of problem edits. In the meantime, just keep doing your work. By the way, I remember a time not too long ago when your own edits were causing issues with another editor here. Just sayin'. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:11, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can't understand why anyone would behave in the way he's behaving. Why would anyone think that making a very few very superficial copy edits (adding unnecessary prepositions here and there, for example) to an article has helped an article achieve VGA status? When an article is at GA or VGA, the accepted, customary procedure is to make suggestions for improvements on the article talk page and let the nominator take care of things. Some time ago, he left me a post indicating his copy edits have brought articles to GA and VGA status and if I ever need his help to drop him a line. Huh? At enwiki he was being mentored but apparently it wasn't working. He was blocked for three months. I'm very uncomfortable with him. Goblin set him straight on a few things but a day later he's at Commodore Nutt doing the same thing. I don't have a lot of experience with this sort of behavior. If we're going to "nurture" him, we all need to review his user talk page at enwiki to get an idea of who we're dealing with. I want to create good to very good content but I'm concerned that this one editor is going to make the work unnecessarily complicated and frustrating. Suggestions on a talk page are fine, but please leave the text alone when an article is seeking GA or VGA status. It's the nominator's job to take care of things. Oregonian2012 (talk) 12:44, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Hey. I know that you've been working on converting those demonym/glossonym titles into disambiguation pages. There are a couple where I think we could apply WP:2DABS, in cases where the title most often refers to the language. Those being Hebrew and Occitan, both primarily linguistic names. In those cases, we should help the readers avoid having to make that extra click and just use a hatnote. Osiris (talk) 04:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that makes sense. I guess I was trying to make it easier to identify incorrect links. With the separate dab page, you know that anything linking to the dab page is wrong. However, you're right about making it easier on the readers so I'll make the change. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:56, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Hopefully there just won't be many incorrect links, and in there are a few they can just click on the link in the hatnote. Osiris (talk) 06:09, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Should we be using [[w: to link something to enwiki? Like Green eggs and ham? I'm seeing this sort of linking in some articles. Oregonian2012 (talk) 12:08, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking as an editor (not as an admin), I personally don't like it, but I don't know if we have any policy or guideline about it. In the larger Wikipedia community, I think it's frowned on, but this Wikipedia is a little different. For example, we allow (or at least tolerate) links to Wiktionary in articles. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:19, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No policy or guideline on the use of [[w:]] links, but it is definitely frowned upon and it would instead be better to create the article locally - remember, the two wikis are not the same. Links to Wiktionary, on the other hand, are fine (and accepted/allowed), if they are to the Simple English edition. Goblin 19:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Yottie![reply]

Nelson Mandela

Could you give the nominator a hand with this? Oregonian2012 (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I replied on the PGA page. Really, though, I can't tell another user what it is that you're seeing wrong with the article. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:35, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Add your name to the list of supporters for promotion to GA. Oregonian2012 (talk) 22:55, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Is that an order? Why are you asking people to support promotion after you've said you see "much room for improvement"? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You know the article is up for promotion. If you support promotion add your name to the list of supporters. If you won't add your name to the list don't be surprised if some read it as non-support. I've wasted enough time on this. Ta! Oregonian2012 (talk) 23:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can't help how people interpret the fact that I'm neither supporting or opposing. Why are you pushing this so hard? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 (change conflict) ...did you really just tell someone to support an article, yet you yourself have issues with said article? I think you need to step back, take a look at the bigger picture (not to mention how everything works again, and your comments) and perhaps take a break. Some of your comments are getting extremely hostile recently, and I'd say borderline disruptive. Goblin 23:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC) I ♥ The Rambling Man![reply]

You're the Best

You are truly a god admin and don't listen to that j***a** (please forgive my language). You are a good friend. You helped me a lot and I'm not sure where would I be without you. I owe I great debt to you and I'm not sure how to pay it back. Your services here are amazing and no other user can compete against your standards. Thanks for the help. If you need anything just write to me. Thanks. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:56, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Bluegoblin7 has given you some cookies! Now enjoy them!

As much as Wikilove irritates me, I think we could all do with some at the moment, so, here's some cookies. :-) Goblin 01:03, 5 September 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Bsadowski1![reply]

LOL, thanks, Gobby! I'll enjoy looking at them, 'cause I'm not allowed to eat them in real life! --Auntof6 (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe, make sure you whisk them away somewhere safe though - if you look at them for too long I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to nab them! ;-) Goblin 01:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Barras![reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #74


Do I get rollback here as I have the right on English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons? The Wikipedia:Rollback feature page says so. Jianhui67 (talk) 09:13, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That page says the rollback right "may be granted" in such cases. Wikipedia:Requests for permissions says "You must be an active member of Simple English Wikipedia, preferably with some experience in reverting vandalism." Almost all of your edits here have been in userspace, mostly on your own user page. As far as I can tell, you're also a fairly new user on all three sites you mention: here, enwiki, and Commons. Because of all that, my response would be "not yet". However, you're welcome to make a formal request at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:08, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I did not know that. I'll come here and revert vandalism at times when I'm done with reverting vandalism on English Wikipedia and Commons. Commons typically don't experience vandalism, unlike English Wikipedia, which has one every minute. And can I create various userboxes for user groups? Like autopatrol, edit filter manager, account creator, AWB and file mover in English Wikipedia and also patroller, autopatroller, file mover, license reviewer, sysop in Commons. I am in those 2 wikis. Jianhui67 (talk) 10:35, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You can create userboxes, but I don't see the need to have any related to rights on other projects. (I saw that you added a couple to the list of userboxes already.) We probably already have enough userboxes for rights here on Simple English Wikipedia. Keep in mind that rollback and other rights are more likely to be granted to users that do serious article work. Userboxes are not serious article work. Besides, there are ways to deal with vandalism besides rollback. Use those for a while before you ask for the rollback right. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:46, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I created two just now. English Wikipedia reviewer and Commons rollbacker, to put on my userpage, as well to others who need in the future. Yeah I know. Twinkle is available here. Is STiki and AWB available here and does Huggle requires rollback permission? Using STiki, Huggle and AWB on English Wikipedia. Jianhui67 (talk) 10:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First, here we try to keep everything simple, not the just language. To me, that would also mean that we don't need userboxes for things not related to Simple English Wikipedia. Therefore, I wouldn't create any more like that.
As far as the other tools, I don't know what STiki is. We have some AWB users, but 1) that isn't really an anti-vandalism tool and 2) we don't give that permission to very many people. You might like to look at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage to see what requests have been approved and what ones have been denied in the past. I don't use Huggle, so I don't know if it requires rollback here (I see it does on enwiki). Aside from those, though, I was also thinking of the undo and revert functions that anyone can use. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
English Wikipedia and Simple English Wikipedia rather have quite a lot of differences. uses 'contributions', while here uses 'changes'. And also uses 'speedy deletion', but here uses 'quick deletion'. Jianhui67 (talk) 10:57, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we do have quite a few differences. That's one reason we want to see a fair amount of contributions here before granting rights. Here are some pages that might give you more information about that:
--Auntof6 (talk) 11:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You can take a look at en:WP:STiki and en:WP:Huggle. Those are the anti-vandalism tools I use on English Wikipedia, apart from Rollback and Twinkle. I'll try not to use difficult words here while editing. Jianhui67 (talk) 11:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Old RfDs

Hey Auntof, just a reminder that we generally leave old RfDs in place for at least 24 hours to give everyone in all timezones a chance to see the outcome if needs be. The two you moved had been there only slightly over 12. No big deal, just wanted to mention it. Best, Goblin 02:48, 11 September 2013 (UTC) I ♥ Fr33kman![reply]

Sorry about that -- I didn't know. Thanks for the info! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:12, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nelson Mandela GA

How much longer until the result of the Nelson Mandela GA promotion? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:37, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The result? Has it had enough people saying it's ready? I'll add my support, but even with that I don't see enough votes yet. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #75

Prince Jean

Why he is not a Noble Person???

He is a Prince in Exile of a Dynasty who reignd 622 years.

Request for permissions/Rollback

Hi Auntof6, regarding your rejection of my request last week, I'm not 'collecting hats' or collecting rights on multiple wikis. I only need rollback for the wikis I work on to revert vandalism. Yes, I admit that I had only been on English Wikipedia for 3 months and gotten 2400-2500 edits. I understand that you are worried that I may be on multiple projects trying to collect rights because of my actions here. For my wrongdoings, I apologise to you. But I would definitely need rollback for several purposes. Using rollback to revert vandalism would be faster and more efficient than Twinkle reverting. I use both Twinkle and rollback simulateneously in English Wikipedia. Rollback to revert and Twinkle to warn and report. I would want to prove that I'm eligible for rollback over here and that I won't misuse it. I'm not requesting rollback now, but I will request in the future when I have gathered enough reverts and content building. Jianhui67 (talk) 14:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. I just fixed the expiry on your block to this IP. [5] I think it was probably a mistake? Osiris (talk) 01:38, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I'd seen vandalism-only accounts blocked indef before. Is it because it's an IP, and it could be affecting more than one person? --Auntof6 (talk) 02:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah you can indef registered accounts if they're vandalism-only accounts, but not IPs because the person behind it will inevitably change. I don't even think open proxies are usually blocked for more than a year or two nowadays.WP:IPBLENGTH should give you all the info you want to know. Osiris (talk) 04:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #76

Jirou Tsukiyama

I just recieved message that you deleted the page of a nationally famous person, 月山ニ郎/Punky Nerd Joshi. Why? (talk) 03:44, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article didn't explain why the person was notable. It mentioned some things that the person had done, but they were things that many non-notable people have done. One way to show that someone is notable is to include references from reliable sources. I did a search on the name, and most of the results were for sites that are directly related to the person. That kind of site is not considered reliable. What has this person done that makes him notable? --Auntof6 (talk) 04:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, you say that he is nationally famous, but I don't think the article even said what country he is from. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:54, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to Wikipedia

In the article Jean de Venette, words and names in the image have been linked to Wikipedia. Some of these links send the reader to a page "to be created" at Wikipedia. This is confusing and our readers won't understand it. Some may not be able to find their way back to our page. There's no sense having a Simple Wikipedia if we're sending our readers to complex pages (or non-existent pages) at Wikipedia. I asked MySweetMelissa to discuss this with a mentor or an experienced editor. Perhaps you could contact her before to