Wikipedia:Requests for deletion

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If you think a page should be deleted, read the deletion policy to make sure.
Then follow these instructions on how to request a page for deletion. To find more information on what discussed deletions and quick deletions are:
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Before nominating: checks and alternatives [change source]

Prior to nominating article(s) for deletion, please be sure to:

A. Read and understand these policies and guidelines
  1. The Wikipedia deletion policy, which explains valid grounds for deletion.
  2. The main four guidelines and policies that inform deletion discussions: notability (WP:N), verifiability (WP:V), reliable sources (WP:RS), and what Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT)
  3. Subject-specific notability guidelines, which can be found at Category:Wikipedia notability guidelines
B. Carry out these checks
  1. Confirm that the article does not meet the criteria for quick deletion.
  2. If there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources. (See step D.)
  3. Review the article's history to check for potential vandalism or poor editing.
  4. Read the article's talk page for previous nominations and/or that your objections haven't already been dealt with.
  5. Check "What links here" in the article's sidebar, to see how the page is used and referenced within Wikipedia.
  6. Check if there are interlanguage links, also in the sidebar, which may lead to more developed and better sourced articles. Likewise, search for native-language sources if the subject has a name in a non-Latin alphabet (such as Japanese or Greek), which is often in the lede.
C. Consider whether the article could be improved rather than deleted
  1. If the article can be fixed through normal editing, then it is not a candidate for RfD.
  2. If the article was recently created, please consider allowing the contributors more time to develop the article.
  3. If an article has issues try first raising your concerns on the article's talk page, with the main contributors, and/or adding a cleanup tag, such as {{notability}}, {{hoax}}, {{original research}}, or {{advert}}; this ensures readers are aware of the problem and may act to fix it.
  4. If the topic is not important enough to merit an article on its own, consider merging or redirecting to an existing article. This should be done particularly if the topic name is a likely search term.
D. Search for additional sources, if the main concern is notability
  1. The minimum search expected is a normal Google search, a Google Books search, a Google News search, and a Google News archive search; Google Scholar is suggested for academic subjects.
  2. If you find a lack of sources, you've completed basic due diligence before nominating. However, if a quick search does find sources, this does not always mean an RfD on a sourcing basis is unwarranted. If you spend more time examining the sources, and determine that they are insufficient, e.g., because they only contain passing mention of the topic, then an RfD nomination may still be appropriate.
  3. If you find that adequate sources do appear to exist, the fact that they are not yet present in the article is not a proper basis for a nomination. Instead, you should consider citing the sources, or at minimum apply an appropriate template to the page that flags the sourcing concern. Common templates include {{unreferenced}}, {{refimprove}}, {{third-party}}, {{primary sources}} and {{one source}}.

Discussed deletion[change source]

Put the deletion tag on the article.
  1. Click "Change source" at the top of the page to be deleted.
  2. In the edit box, add this tag: {{rfd|REASON}}. Put it at the top of the page, above the rest of the text. Then, replace the text "REASON" with a short reason why the page should be deleted. Do not be too specific here. You can add more details on the discussion page (see below).
  • It is a good idea to write a change summary to let others know what you are doing. You can say "nominating for deletion", "requesting deletion", or something like that.
  1. Click "Save changes" at the bottom to save the page with the deletion tag at the top.
  • You can also check the "Watch this page" check box to add the page to your watchlist. This lets you know if the page for deletion has been changed. If the deletion tag is removed any time before the discussion is closed, it should be put back.
Create a discussion page.
  1. If the deletion tag has been added to the page, a box should appear at the top of the article with a link saying "Click here to create a discussion page!" Click that link.
  2. You should be taken to a page starting with "Creating Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/..." along with the current year and the name of the article to be deleted. In the edit box, the following tag should have already been added: {{RfD/Preload/Template}} . Replace the text PLACE REASON HERE with a more detailed reason why the page should be deleted.
  • It is helpful to include links to the various policy pages about Wikipedia (that begin with Wikipedia:). Here are some examples of this: "This article is [[Wikipedia:COMPLEX|not easy to understand]]" or "Not a [[Wikipedia:notable|notable]] topic''. This will make others more aware of why the page is not acceptable under Wikipedia's policies.
  1. Click "Save changes" to save the new discussion page when you are done.
  • A change summary you can write for this page is "creating discussion page", "starting deletion discussion", or something like that.
  • As with the page for deletion, you can check the "Watch the page" box. This will let you know if someone else has replied to your discussion.
List it here
  1. Copy the title of the discussion page to the clipboard. You can do this by dragging the mouse over the text from "Wikipedia" to the end of the page title to highlight it, then right-clicking and selecting "Copy".
  2. Go to the list of deletion requests, and click "change source" beside the words "Current deletion request discussions".
  3. At the top of the list of discussions, paste the title from the clipboard (right-click and select "Paste"). Add a pair of curly brackets before and after the title to make a template that will copy the content of the discussion page onto the main deletion page, like this:
{{Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/(name of page to be deleted)}}
  1. Finally, click "Save changes" to add the discussion to the list. If the page saves successfully, you should see your deletion discussion at the top of the list. And that's it!

Quick deletion[change source]

If you think a page has nonsense content, add {{non}} to the top of the page.

If you think a page does not say why the subject is important, add {{notable}} to the top of the page.

If you think a page should be deleted per other quick deletion rules, add {{QD|reason}} to the top of the page.

Notifying the user[change source]

Generally, you should try to be civil and tell the user that created the page to join the discussion talking about the page. This can be done by adding {{subst:RFDNote|page to be deleted}} ~~~~ to the bottom of their talkpage.

Discussions[change source]

  • The discussion is not a vote. Please make suggestions on what action to take, and support your suggestion with reasons.
  • Please look at the article before you make a suggestion. Do not make an opinion using only the information given by the nominator. Looking at the history of the article may help to understand the situation.
  • Please read other comments and suggestions. They may have helpful information.
  • Start your comments or suggestions on a new line. Start with * and sign after your comment by adding ~~~~ to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs and make sure your comment is indented (using more than one *).
  • New users can make suggestions, but their ideas may not be considered, especially if the suggestion seems to be made in bad faith. The opinion of users who had an account before the start of the request may be given more weight or importance.
  • Suggestions by users using "sock puppets" (more than one account belonging to the same person) and IP addresses will not be counted.
  • Please make only one suggestion. If you change your mind, change your first idea instead of adding a new one. The best way to do this is to put <s> before your old idea and </s> after it. For example, if you wanted to delete an article but now think it should be kept, you could put: "Delete Quick keep".
  • If you would like an article to be kept, you can improve the article and try to fix the problems given in the request for deletion. If the reasons given in the nomination are fixed by changing, the nomination can be withdrawn by the nominator, and the deletion discussion will be closed by an administrator.
  • Try to avoid confusing suggestions, such as delete and merge.

Remember: You do not have to make a suggestion for every nomination. You should think about not making a suggestion if:

  1. A nomination involves a topic that you do not know much about.
  2. Everyone has made the same suggestion and you agree with that suggestion.
  • All times are in UTC.

Current deletion request discussions[change source]

Chobber Sidhu[change source]

Chobber Sidhu (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

つがる has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: TLDR; Does not seem to be notable. Not much again from the regular Google lookup, I bring this to RFD for everyone's thoughts... Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.

Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete no indication they meet any points at en:WP:SINGER. No independent coverage. --IWI (talk) 01:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete same situation as last time. --(Hellothere4 (talk) 01:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC))
  •  Delete as per above. CadCossie (talk) 04:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Because page disappearing/RfD breaking issues, the page is currently move-protected...--Eptalon (talk) 04:41, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 01:44, 31 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Kunal S Khosla[change source]

Kunal S Khosla (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Derpdart56 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable, and using imbd isn't a source Derpdart56 (talk) 15:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.

Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete Not seeing anything that might meet WP:NACTOR, just some minor roles. More generally, there's no reliable sources focused on him. Aranya (talk) 16:47, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete non-notable spam. --IWI (talk) 16:50, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete Not notable + advertising. --Belwine💬📜 16:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete does not meet notability standards, no reliable source. CadCossie (talk) 21:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 15:56, 29 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


King Paul Singh[change source]

King Paul Singh (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Derpdart56 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable, possible photoshop Derpdart56 (talk) 15:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete - Doesn't appear notable and reads like an ad. Belwine💬📜 15:43, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete no coverage. Promotional spam. --IWI (talk) 01:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 15:30, 29 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Gowri Nadella[change source]

Gowri Nadella (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Belwine has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: does not appear to be notable. Belwine💬📜 20:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  • I did a quick google search, and didn't find much useful content, when searching for the name. Essentially it is social media.Perhaps noteworthy: looking at the Spanish and the Italian article, they have exactly the same layout, with only the content translated. While the image used might show Gowri Nadella, the commons description reads 'A typical example of an image uploaded by a sock puppet for cross-wiki spam purposes...'. So this may be cross-wiki spam. Given the search results, I don't think Miss Nadella has reached a level of notability suitable for this wiki yet. About a day ago, I deleted a number of national winners of the 'Miss Universe 2020' contest (after the final of that contest was cancelled/postponed). When search for their names, I found more than when searching for Ms Nadella. In short: delete--Eptalon (talk) 21:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete Fails GNG and NMODEL. --IWI (talk) 21:42, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 20:31, 28 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Veer[change source]

Veer (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Belwine has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Does not appear to be notable. Totally different results are coming up when I search "Veer clothing brand" and "Veer non-profit". Belwine💬📜 16:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete. Text is a promotion lacking notability. Sources are puffs. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


This request is due to close on 16:54, 28 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Darcy Isa[change source]

Darcy Isa (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Non-notable actor; fails en:WP:NACTOR. No substantial coverage in reliable, independent sources. Also note the precedent from enwiki here four years ago. The level of coverage now does not appear to be much different. --IWI (talk) 10:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete - fails GNG. Belwine💬📜 11:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete no reliable source coverage. CadCossie (talk) 21:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 10:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Susie Figgis[change source]

Susie Figgis (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Gordonrox24 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Don't believe simply working as a casting director makes somebody notable. Gordonrox24 | Talk 02:08, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  • Delete At the time of creating the article, it must’ve had an English Wiki. I tried to look for some reliable sources but managed to find one. I agree with nom. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:17, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 02:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Javad Safaee[change source]

Javad Safaee (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Notability doubtful. Was unable to find sufficient independent coverage. --IWI (talk) 19:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

 Comment Same goes with me! I can't give any decisions right now. But I will find it.KP (talk) 09:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  •  Delete: the page has a very obvious advertisement and little else of merit. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:23, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


This request is due to close on 19:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


RDS[change source]

RDS (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

TTP1233 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable and language written in references are not in english. Is it a advertising or not I'm doubtful. Comments? KP (talk) 10:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  DeleteSheer spam and CV of the company. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Looks like it is one of the three biggest road-building companies in Ukraine, so if wanted it could probably be rewritten to be more neutral in tone. I do however think that the page would need to be moved. Most people will associate RDS with en:Radio Data System, a communication protocol to transfer digital information as a payload to the ordinary FM radio signals. Usually, it is used to dispaly station names, songtitles, or similar things. Looking at en:RDS: given the many meanings RDS can have, we should porbably have a disambiguation page there, listing the meanings we have articles for. --Eptalon (talk) 10:43, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, no prejudice to delete and replace with dab, currently is way too spammy. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete per above. A dab could be created thereafter. --IWI (talk) 11:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 10:07, 27 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Livaneli Yildiran[change source]

Livaneli Yildiran (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Belwine has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: doesn't appear to be notable. For search results, Simple English Wikipedia is top result, then Linkedin... Belwine💬📜 08:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

 Delete. Obvious advert. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


This request is due to close on 08:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Tadzio Müller[change source]

Tadzio Müller (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

2003:DB:4F20:5ACE:C550:5280:E994:9F91 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable - page has already been deleted in the English and German Wikipedia 2003:DB:4F20:5ACE:C550:5280:E994:9F91 (talk) 17:45, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

 Delete - deleted for "created by blocked user" on en.wikipedia. I believe this used to be a QD rule here, but it was removed like twelve years ago. If the Wikipedia of the country of origin (Germany) don't have a page on this person, I don't know why we should. --Belwine💬📜 18:41, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

 Comment on the old QD rule: QD G5 used to be "created by banned user", not blocked user (see here). This was removed on 9 December 2008. --Belwine💬📜 18:51, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
The fact that German doesn't have it has no relevance here. Many notable subjects don't exist in their mother languages. This isn't a comment indicating that is the case for this subject as I have not looked. But this argument is one that should be avoided. -Djsasso (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Even in the old rule, the user must be banned here and then a sock created the page after the ban to be eligible, an user banned in enwp have no relevance here even if G5 is still there. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • From what it looks like, the person is likely notable. Interview of Bavarian state radio (Bayern 2), with him. 'Der Spiegel' is likely Germans largest weekly newspaper (circulation: 840.000), they wouldn't consecrate time/space, if he wasn't 'notable' at least on the most basic level. Yes, the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung is close to 'Die Linke' (a left-wing German party). The other media I found ('taz', en:Die Tageszeitung) is also from the alrernative/'left' corner of the spectrum; see this interview (in German). So after 15-20 mins of searching: There are press clippins of major newspapers mentioning him, there are radio talks/interviews. If I look at the Discussion of DEWP, of 2015, the article was deleted, because it didn't show that the person was relevant/notable. But as pointed out: University professor, also doing activism (mostly for climate); I don't know what Mr Müller's activities were like in 2015. Also see en:Ende_Gelände. In short: tentative keep (& improve the article). --Eptalon (talk) 23:25, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Keep Agree with @Eptalon:. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 23:28, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Deletion rules here are that we delete an article, because the subject does meet certain criteria, for example of not being notable. We don't delete articles, because a bad user created the article. --Eptalon (talk) 23:43, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Keep I agree with Eptalon that there are enough sources to say this person is notable. Also, if we deleted every article made by someone who's blocked or banned on en.wiki, you'd have to chuck every one of mine. Darkfrog24 (talk) 18:34, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete A lack of in-depth coverage in reliable, independent sources. I would like to add that an interview does not constitute coverage that is required to meet our guidelines, and that is the only stuff I am seeing in reliable sources, aside from articles written by the man himself and passing mentions. --IWI (talk) 18:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 17:45, 26 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Brian Turk[change source]

Brian Turk (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Djsasso has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Non-notable actor who only had small roles and fails to meet NACTOR. Djsasso (talk) 16:53, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  Keep Notable enough. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 19:06, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete Extremely unconvinced by the WP:ITSNOTABLE argument above. Most of the sources available seem to be IMDb pages, fancruft, and this Simple English Wikipedia page. Naleksuh (talk) 22:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Naleksuh:, IMDb is a trusted resource. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 23:37, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
    No it is not. Please see WP:IMDB. Naleksuh (talk) 01:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment Imdb can tell you that an actor starred in a movie. I wouldn't call it reliable source, which means an imdb entry won't make you notable. --Eptalon (talk) 00:03, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per DJsasso, doesn't meet NACTOR. No major roles, no clues on a large fan following, and no claims of innovation in the entertainment industry. This is an odd case, as there was a fair amount of coverage of his death. But, can't really find much about his life and work.--Gordonrox24 | Talk 00:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete per nom. Simply fails NACTOR; roles are minor. No indication they have a cult following or that their contributions were particularly innovative. --IWI (talk) 19:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 16:53, 26 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Maryam khodarahmi[change source]

Maryam khodarahmi (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ShadowBallX has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: I don't see any notability. Thoughts? ShadowBallX (talk) 15:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  • Symbol speedy delete vote.svg Quick Delete A4 -no explanation why the article is notable --Belwine💬📜 15:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Quick-deleted once (by me), as A4, later re-created. The problem I see with the article is that sourcing is very poor. The article that exists on fawiki also has that problem. Yes, Iranian actress, born 1983; had a few appeareances on TV and in movies. When searching for her name on google, I essentially get Instagram, Facebook, and the IMDB entry. As far as I can see, there's no media discussion her role/appearance/performance in a given movie. I can't find any third-party sources, English or otherwise. en:Arianny Celeste is a ring girl, and model. If I believe the EnWp article she took part in some movies. How does her notability compre to that of Mrs Khodarahmi? - I reliable third-party sources cannot be found, this is a probably a delete. --Eptalon (talk) 15:55, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete No independent coverage at all - just social media. --IWI (talk) 10:27, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 15:21, 26 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Adan Santiago Igut[change source]

Adan Santiago Igut (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

TTP1233 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable and found only social media accounts. Comments? KP (talk) 08:07, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete per nom. Only seeing social media. Also fails en:WP:NACTOR; the appearances are only in non-notable films, and no indication they meet the other two points of it. --IWI (talk) 14:10, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 08:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Emma Bobrova[change source]

Emma Bobrova (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Gordonrox24 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Article starts out with what feels like some thinly veiled promotion, and then moves on to some embellishments. Says she worked with James Franco. From what I can tell, she played a very minor role as a ghost. Continues on to say she has acted in more than 25 films by her own production company. I do not think this person is notable. Gordonrox24 | Talk 03:46, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  •  Delete fails en:WP:NACTOR. Roles are either minor ones, or in non-notable films; also no indication of a cult following/unique or innovative contributions - not notable. --IWI (talk) 14:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

This request is due to close on 03:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.


Sayanim[change source]

Sayanim (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Antisemitic conspiracy that does not belong here. See the precedent at en:Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sayanim also, where the page ended up being salted. The same user created a similar article on enwiki, which I have put to AfD. No reliable sources back this up; the sources in the article do not make mention of the idea. --IWI (talk) 10:06, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  • I don't think we should based on en as that is 11! years ago, but then the concerns then is still valid here. I will say this concept isn't notable as a standalone, merge to Mossad, content will be useful there. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Regardless, the concerns of perpetuating an antisemitic conspiracy on Wikipedia remain true. I am not suggesting to delete purely based on an enwiki AfD (we don't do that), but it is nevertheless worth noting. I'll add that I am not seeing reliable sources making explicit mention of this topic, and many see it a racist conspiracy theory that we should definitely NOT be portraying as fact, especially when the article claims that Sayanim are "non-Israeli Jews that assist Mossad in their 'operations'"; it's unclear what it is suggesting here, though the impression is not good and certainly has undertones of a number of en:Antisemitic canards. It also suggests that Mossad conduct "vast operations worldwide", which bears a similar issue. Searching the word "Saynim" brings an array of antisemitic websites, and the Twitter hashtag #Sayanim also features mainly antisemitic comments. As someone suggested, this just fuels hate and doesn't belong here. --IWI (talk) 11:46, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Yeah, for your part on RFD I had accepted that the concerns are still valid here. What I am suggesting is exactly, we can write that there are some who believe Mossad did employ such operations, but there are others who prove it isn't true (something to this extent) in Mossad article when I suggested a merge. We do allow different POV to be documented in Wikipedia, just that it must be neutral in the end. There are some sources that stated this is so called true (in the page itself), so we cannot say this is a hoax, but a school of thought. However misguided that is, given some coverage, I think is reasonable for a minor mention in Mossad article. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 11:51, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Sure, but it should be described as a conspiracy theory, and not presented as a fact. --IWI (talk) 13:03, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Yes, of course. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Though it would probably belong in an article about antisemitic conspiracy theories and not in an article about the Mossad. On our small wiki, I would say this stuff simply does not belong here at all. Enwiki seems pretty firm on not including these harmful lies anywhere on the wiki. --IWI (talk) 21:17, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    I see you took the same article on enwp for AFD there, I'll wait for that result first. There's a keep vote there by an experienced user. CM-Public (talk) 21:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
    Yeah I mentioned this above. It was created by the same user. There is no obligation for us to mirror enwiki in deletions; they can act as a guide but we are our own wiki. --IWI (talk) 08:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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XIL-API[change source]

XIL-API (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Darkfrog24 has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: This article seems promotional to me. Because the content is not my area of expertise, I feel more eyes are needed. Please, someone with more technical knowledge comment on whether this subject merits inclusion. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:18, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete non-notable promotion. --IWI (talk) 16:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment When doing software development, tests can be written based on the requirements these components will have to fulfill. Some of these tests are automated, and they can be run to make sure the developed components still meet the requirements. What this seems to be is a very similar thing, except that we are talking about developing physical components (which are part of a larger systtem, or that larger system as a whole), for example with automobile or aircraft industry. As such, the system is probably notable; note in DEWP, this article is in draft space. I can imagine, there's a need for such tools, but I don't know any others. In Dewp this article has been moved to draft space. --Eptalon (talk) 08:33, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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László Simion[change source]

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ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable - cross-wiki spam. Unrelated to a Hungarian politician with a similar name. --IWI (talk) 15:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete. Not notable, lacks assessment by qualified independent experts. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:28, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


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Khandaker Abdullah Jahangir[change source]

Khandaker Abdullah Jahangir (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Appears to fail en:WP:NACADEMIC and WP:GNG. Also see the precedent at en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khandaker Abdullah Jahangir. --IWI (talk) 08:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Follow En. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:04, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete per nominator's reason.KP (talk) 10:01, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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Muhammad Iqbal Hossain[change source]

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ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Appears to be insufficient reliable, independent coverage. He also doesn't appear to meet en:WP:NACADEMICS. --IWI (talk) 08:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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2070[change source]

2070 (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request
2071 (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request
2072 (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Belwine has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: There was no need to go beyond 2069 because there are basically no events in years beyond the year 2069. Multiple page nomination with 2071 & 2072. Belwine💬📜 14:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • At least more than a dicdef of what 2070 is, but seems a little en:WP:CRYSTAL. Per enwp, redirect temporarily all to 3rd_millennium. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:12, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep 2070 as I have found some information to add. Redirect the other two. --IWI (talk) 05:10, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Merge and Redirect to 3rd millennium. -Djsasso (talk) 12:33, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to 3rd millennium. --Saroj Uprety (talk) 12:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @Djsasso: Wouldn't 21st century be more appropriate? --IWI (talk) 05:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    • The enwp article seems to only consist of 2000 - 2020 for 21st century, but 3rd millennium seems to cover 2070s. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:37, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
      • Ah ok, fair enough. --IWI (talk) 10:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
        • I am good with either. Our 21st century isn't so huge as theirs so it would probably be fine to go there as well. -Djsasso (talk) 17:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Keep. as a redirect Peterdownunder (talk) 06:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC).

Barron Trump[change source]

Barron Trump (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Chenzw has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Previously deleted under QD A4, this was contested (restored), re-deleted, and re-contested at DRV. It was found that the original A4 deletion was likely to be invalid; sending to RfD for consideration. Chenzw  Talk  11:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete or redirect. Just explaining: The person is a schoolboy who has not earned notability except as being a member of a family. He should not have a stand-alone article because notability is not inherited. An article on the Trump family would be sensible, though at present we do not have one. But, lacking that, I maintain we should stick to our precedents. We just can't have unsourced articles which implicitly say "He/She is notable because of their relatives". Also, we might consider that children may be damaged by over-publicity. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect per above. --Saroj Uprety (talk) 12:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Donald Trump#Marriages. If somebody wants to know who Barron Trump is, then they will get the information they need. Naddruf (talk) 20:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect per above. Additional reason: I'm a firm believer in leave the kids outta this. Legitimate arguments can be made both for and against Barron Trump being notable on his own. So long as the issue remains on the fence, let's err on the side of redirecting attention away from him. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Ridirect per above.KP (talk) 10:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect per above. CadCossie (talk) 21:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. Does not meet guidelines for notability.Peterdownunder (talk) 06:30, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Mohsen avid[change source]

Mohsen avid (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Eptalon has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Doubtful notability, Google essentially finds social media. I don't know how indepenent or reliable the given references are. I'd delete it, as I see little to no academic relevance. Comments? Eptalon (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete non-notable promotion. --IWI (talk) 12:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. Deleted as not notable.Peterdownunder (talk) 06:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Reza Bay[change source]

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Eptalon has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Contested quick deletion; according to talk page: links in the article prove he is a famous actor. When I search for "Reza Bay" on Google, I essentially find Facebook and LinkedIn. So from my view still a delete. Comments? Eptalon (talk) 13:38, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Deleteas per nominator says. Not notable at all and sources are not of independent. Fails WP:GNG.KP (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete only seeing social media on Google. --IWI (talk) 13:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. --Eptalon (talk) 01:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Oscar's Asis[change source]

Oscar's Asis (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Belwine has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Doesn't appear to be notable. Also made by an IP who has made lots of bad pages. Belwine💬📜 12:06, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete as not-notable/potential hoax. --IWI (talk) 12:11, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. --Eptalon (talk) 01:05, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Boutique Filmes[change source]

Boutique Filmes (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Camouflaged Mirage has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Doesn't seems notable, Oscar's Oasis isn't produced by them, Ice Age (TV series) claimed to be produced by them, but per another RFD, seems a hoax, lastly only SOS Fairy Manu is produced by them, a short 10 min movie. I will say this isn't notable per en:WP:NCORP, neither by WP:GNG Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. --Eptalon (talk) 01:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Ice Age (TV series)[change source]

Ice Age (TV series) (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Camouflaged Mirage has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Hoax/ Nonsense, cannot find a source for the Brazil one claimed by IP, I tried to redirect to Ice Age (franchise) as plausible redirect, but was reverted twice, community to decide, suggest we keep the redirect Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Redirect per above. --IWI (talk) 14:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    Agree to below to delete as hoax. --IWI (talk) 19:14, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I had speedied this as a hoax once already. Could find no proof anywhere that it exists. -Djsasso (talk) 17:36, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. The only pages with meaningful incoming links are articles that are also up for deletion. If it's a hoax, we shouldn't redirect it. The enwiki article for the franchise lists some TV specials, but doesn't seem to mention a series. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    True, then let's just delete. The redirect is just a suggestion, I also don't mind deletion as I bring this to RFD. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:54, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Dan Shulman[change source]

Dan Shulman (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Close to no content, been on Wikipedia for 7 years, no sources. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Symbol speedy delete vote.svg Quick Delete per above. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 00:10, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 Keep Simple case of WP:SOFIXIT. Subject is notable, simply being a stub is not a reason to delete, many articles here are like that. Naleksuh (talk) 01:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 Keep: Adding onto Naleksuh: you can find some good sources focused on his telecasting career just by looking at his article on English Wikipedia. Going along our WP:GNG guideline, I think it's reasonable to presume he's notable from the coverage and honors he's received working at huge networks like ESPN. Aranya (talk) 01:36, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Keep please follow WP:BEFORE the next time you nominate an article for deletion; deletion is not clean up. --IWI (talk) 08:18, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Keep because we have lots of articles like this, it's ok. Just because it has no sources + it's a stub does not mean it should be deleted. The information can be useful to many, just that infomration needs to be verified.Belwine💬📜 14:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC).
  •  Keep He was awarded top national recognition by his professional association in 2011; appears notable. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. Deleted by Macdonald-ross as part of a mass deletion.. --IWI (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Moltafet[change source]

Moltafet (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Notability doubtful. Couldn't find any independent coverage. --IWI (talk) 17:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Symbol speedy delete vote.svg Quick Delete A4 - as they do not claim to be notable. Belwine💬📜 17:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)  Delete - doesn't appear to be notable. Belwine💬📜 17:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
    "This group is one of the founders of Persian rap" is a claim. --IWI (talk) 17:56, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
    Yep, I totally missed that... Belwine💬📜 17:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol speedy delete vote.svg Quick Delete Per Belwine. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 17:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
    my QD doesn't apply, there is a claim to notability Belwine💬📜 17:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
    Belwine Got it. Moving to {{Vd}} instead. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 18:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete Claim to notability disputed, and the English Wikipedia isn't a reliable source, as it gets its' info from other sources. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 18:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete.  --Auntof6 (talk) 06:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Neal Barbera[change source]

Neal Barbera (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Insufficient independent coverage. Not notable. --IWI (talk) 06:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete - Does not appear to be notable. Belwine💬📜 21:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete.  --Auntof6 (talk) 06:52, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Poshlaja Molly[change source]

Poshlaja Molly (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Belwine has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: does not appear to be notable - Also appears to probably be a copy of previously deleted content. Belwine💬📜 09:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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  •  Delete first Google result is its Wikidata item. I have been unable to find any independent coverage, with zero Google News results. --IWI (talk) 09:04, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Delete Per WP:NOTABLE, it's just not notable. As @ImprovedWikiImprovment: as noted, the first result is a WikiData item, and no news results. If there is proof that this article is not able in some way, then I would recommend that the original author post it below, but at this point in time, (the time being: 16:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)), I don't see proof to restrain deletion. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 16:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Keep I would say that the transliteration of the band's original name Пошлая Молли as "Poshlaja Molly" is the main barrier to finding independent coverage. Using "Poshlaya Molly" does give some independent sources in Google News, while searching the original name in Cyrillic yields a wealth of independent, mostly Russian-language coverage. Furthermore, it seems that the band has had at least two albums (1, 2) and one single reach the top 10 on the Russian charts, satisfying the 2nd criterion of WP:Notability (music) for musicians and groups. Overall, Poshlaya Molly is a fairly high-profile band (at least in the Russian-speaking world) and certainly passes the notability criteria in my opinion. 1857a (talk) 02:17, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
    @1857a: Thanks for noticing this. So the Paycheck page, which I gather to be an EP, states it was in the Apple Music chart, which isn't the official chart required to meet en:WP:NBAND. The same can be said for the "Очень страшная Молли 3 (Часть 1)" article, which lists the itunes, Apple Music, and YouTube charts; and the single speaks of YouTube hits also. In addition, the independent sources that can be found on the band seem to cover it in relation to a festival it is in (or similar, i.e. passing mentions) and is not in depth. However, I did notice that they have beem published on Warner Music Group, which is a major label. Unfortunately, at this point I am only seeing EPs, singles and one album, and not the "two or more albums" required to meet point 5 of NBAND. This is certainly now a borderline case, but I still think the band fails the notability requirments at this time. --IWI (talk) 12:56, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete.  --Auntof6 (talk) 06:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Kenneth Bombace[change source]

Kenneth Bombace (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Likely not notable. No coverage at all aside from interviews and trivial mentions. --IWI (talk) 19:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. The subject does not appear to fulfill anything laid out in WP:NSOLDIER, either. Chenzw  Talk  07:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete.  --Auntof6 (talk) 06:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Ivonne Cerdas[change source]

Ivonne Cerdas (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable per WP:1E. Also fails WP:GNG. --IWI (talk) 19:24, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Single win of national title, per previous discussion. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)


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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete.  --Auntof6 (talk) 06:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Ivanna Rohashko[change source]

Ivanna Rohashko (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Not notable per en:WP:1E. Also fails WP:GNG. --IWI (talk) 19:16, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  • Judgement required here: won two titles, though both were rather insignificant. I reckon not notable. Macdonald-ross (talk) 09:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Macdonald-ross: As stated elsewhere, 1E does not mean "only took part in one notable event", it means that "they are only notable for one event". To me, I don't think they are even notable for one of these events per WP:GNG, much less two. --IWI (talk) 10:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
That's a perfectly reasonable point of view. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:17, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to  Delete. I considered the suggestion of redirecting, but decided to delete because there are no meaningful incoming links; the Miss Universe page doesn't list contestants, and it's for the international competition, not the national ones. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:45, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Blerta Veseli[change source]

Blerta Veseli (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

ImprovedWikiImprovment has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: This has been discussed before, but my opinion has changed on the matter. They are only notable for one event and thus fail notability requirements. --IWI (talk) 07:44, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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Discussion[change source]

  • Keep per my rationale at Wikipedia:Requests_for_deletion/Requests/2020/Blerta_Veseli. Why isn't this written as 2nd nomination? And it's way too soon to renominate IMO. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
    It was nominated last year, and so would not show as a second nomination. I nominated as part of many other similar articles created by a sock/possible paid editor, not that that should affect the outcome of an RfD. I don't see how it meets the requirments at WP:1E; coverage is trivial. --IWI (talk) 18:54, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
    IMO this is still okay. My point still stands but if deemed 1E (I think it doesn't) then it's alright too...Best is to give a link to the 1st nomination next round I guess? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
    Well I don't see what else she is notable for other than the single event. In addition, there appears to not be sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. --IWI (talk) 19:29, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
    IWI, you keep mentioning paid editing. What evidence do you have of paid editing? Just being a sock is not evidence. Just obsessively posting articles in a particular area is not evidence (see Simpsons, Spongebob, Star Wars, etc.). I think the decision to keep or delete should be based on the merits of the articles and our guidelines. --Gotanda (talk) 23:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
    Paid editing wouldn’t be a reason to delete in any case. The main issue I have is the failure of WP:1E and WP:GNG. Paid editing is only a suspicion given the promotional tone of the articles, and is mostly irrelevant anyway. --IWI (talk) 04:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per my vote in Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2020/Blerta Veseli, as well as precedent on EN. Chenzw  Talk  02:07, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Chenzw: You say precedent on en, but I am seeing these being deleted by PROD and AfD over there, so I don't quite understand what you mean. You can see the background at en:Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Roxanne_Allison_Baeyens and the deletion rationale at en:Andrea Martínez for more evidence of this. Many have also been redirected to their respective event's pages. This is what happens more recently, while the examples you cited in the last RfD were from 2012. --IWI (talk) 04:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    Thanks for locating the more recent RFD on EN, this didn't appear in the first discussion for the article here, and I suspect the discussion might have gone differently had the EN RFD surfaced. I am withdrawing my vote in lieu of this. Chenzw  Talk  16:15, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment The last RfD was closed on 28 November 2020 (as a keep). Since then the article hasn't changed, and I don't see in what way the outcome of this will be different.--Eptalon (talk) 07:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Eptalon: I renominated as nobody had discussed WP:1E there, in addition to what seems to me as an outdated evaluation of the precedent on enwiki. It is also part of numerous other similar articles that I have nominated, where at first I wasn't even aware of the previous Rfd. --IWI (talk) 07:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    By that token, Shirin Ebadi would probably not be notable? --Eptalon (talk) 08:49, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I think she is notable, yes. --IWI (talk) 08:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @ImprovedWikiImprovment I think Eptalon is trying to say...Shirin won a nobel prize, only this prize, and this subject won a beauty pagent, both are one event winning something, so if this isn't notable, the other isn't notable too if this is the logic for 1E? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 13:49, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Eptalon, Camouflaged Mirage: Ah ok. There are a couple of reasons why, in my view, Ebadi is notable and Veseli is not. Firstly, en:WP:1E specifically makes mention of playing a major role in a minor event, which is what I see winning a beauty pageant for a given country is. The Nobel Prize, on the the other hand, is a very major event that is well respected worldwide in their given fields. In addition, Ebadi is notable for much more than just winning the Nobel Prize. I don't think these two can be compared from this standpoint, and is very much just an association fallacy. --IWI (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @ImprovedWikiImprovment But isn't Miss Universe a great event in term of pageants, and is the pinnacle of pageants? And she is the national representative for the event. Just as Nobel Prize is a major event for scientists, people, Miss Universe is also for beauty pageants people, so I think it's also major? The beauty pageants isn't just a national event, is to select people who represent nation in the global events. This is something like Premier League choosing who goes to Europa League, Champions League. Not wanting association fallacy but just an illustration. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Camouflaged Mirage: If she had/does won Miss Universe, that would be a different story. But she was simply one of almost a hundred in the competition. Simply being in this does not make someone notable, nor does winning a minor national competition. This is backed up by the lack of coverage in reliable sources, per WP:GNG. All we can really write is a pseudo-biography due to the lack of coverage, which is why these guidelines exist. --IWI (talk) 14:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @ImprovedWikiImprovment I disagree that it is a minor competition, the nation is Kosovo isn't a large nation, and a very new nation, so this might be a craze in kosovo. I will say that we try to be fair to these countries, they may not have the coverage an english speaking country have in English press, or a large country. To be honest, in zhwp, I did wrote about a Miss Aruba from scratch, it's very difficult to find proper sources, but I tried to comb extensively, and in the end it meets GNG and well I also get it to DYK standard there. So I know the difficulties of writing such articles, and sources to meet GNG can inherently exist. This is just a sidenote. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 14:48, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Camouflaged Mirage: You have to ask yourself whether significant coverage in reliable and independent sources exists. The languages spoken in Kosovo all use the Latin script, so if no sources can be found by searching her name, she probably fails GNG. This isn't a situation where local sources would be hard to find due to a different script. The competition is notable, but most of its participants are not going to receive the coverage needed to establish notability. Any information about her could be covered in the Miss Universe COUNTRY article with it being redirected, as is common on enwiki and per en:WP:PSEUDO. I feel you disagree with me, and that's of course perfectly okay :) --IWI (talk) 14:57, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @ImprovedWikiImprovment Kosovo have Albanian and Serbian, which some are written in Cryic. There are also regional languages like turkish (which don't use latin) and Romanian (which doesn't too), so your points isn't entirely true. If we say the national competition is notable, winning a notable competition which end up being the ticket to a notable international level competition isn't it something quite notable? And you are okay with redirection, why not directly redirect? Just some thoughts, feel free to disagree :) Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 15:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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@Camouflaged Mirage: Just to correct you, Romanian and Turkish do in fact use the latin script, as does Albanian. Only Serbian doesn't always use the Latin script. In terms of your other question, I do not feel it is appropriate to redirect an article recently discussed at RfD. And it is about coverage. If there is so few coverage, we are basically writing a pseudobiography, we might as well just cover it in the event's article. Just because an event is notable, doesn't inherently mean the winner is also notable. --IWI (talk) 16:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Note Another similar article, Anshika Sharma is under discussion. --Saroj Uprety (talk) 16:18, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    Well there are actually a bunch of similar articles to this under discussion. --IWI (talk) 16:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    Replying here, hope it's okay, Romanian_language (our version didn't include but if you see enwp - Cyrillic (Transnistria only) was mentioned) as well as Turkish_language (our version doesn't but enwp have it per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Braille} and Albanian language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Braille was used), they are latin but there are some variations in the typing, hence, there might be some sources not flagged up. @ImprovedWikiImprovment Hope this explains my point. for the redirect, I am not saying that we redirect when RFD is keep results, but rather that this now can way be considered redirect. I still think the winner of this Miss Kosvo is still notable as it'self and is a great award, so fulfill ANYBIO #1. This is of course my own standards, the community standard might be different. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 16:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    With that been said, let me reconsider this for possible redirect. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment While I agree with Camouflaged Mirage's point about fulfilling ANYBIO #1, BIO1E is an exclusionary criteria - it takes precedence over ANYBIO (or even BASIC). With that said, I would like to call attention to this part of 1E/BIO1E (EN's version, not to be confused with BLP1E): It is important to remember that "notable" is not a synonym for "famous". Someone may have become famous due to one event, but may nevertheless be notable for more than one event. Conversely, a person may be generally famous, but significant coverage may focus on a single event involving that person., so we should also consider the coverage of this person beyond the event which they are most famously known for (if the coverage exists). I will take another look tomorrow to see if there is coverage about this person outside of the pageant. Chenzw  Talk  17:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    Ah, I now realize what the issue is already, I keep on thinking @ImprovedWikiImprovment means BLP1E. Coming from zhwp, we only have BLP1E not BIO1E. Hence, I keep on thinking IWI is saying about BLP1E, let me study in depth what the EN version of BIO1E entails. Thanks @Chenzw for pointing out the obvious thing I missed. Having being said, if this is really notable for that event only, I will suggest rewriting the articles to meet the event standard rather than deletion or a redirect to the event etc. If possible my point is that we can still savage some of the text in some other places. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    @Camouflaged Mirage: Braille is a way for the blind to read text on a page with their hands. It is not a writing script, which I think you may have suggested above. --IWI (talk) 18:39, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    Oh I stand corrected. Having read through BIO1E, it can be said this person is notable for only the Miss Kosovo for now, we don't know whether they will win at Miss Universe. So I agree the better approach will be to redirect to the Miss Kosovo competition 2020 article if it is created, as of now it isn't. We can include a small sentence about the winner in the article if needed (without being UNDUE). Thanks @ImprovedWikiImprovment for pointing it out and renominating this. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 18:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
    Just a clarification, I recalled seeing some sources that will allow this to meet GNG in 2020 the 1st RFD, they had however been taken down, so I can't find any to meet GNG. I think this mean the coverage is momentary for this subject.Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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I think this should be more about the contest, and less about the contestants. Yes, very likely they are young, unmarried, pretty girls and young women. Through a series of contests, they get selected, so that each participating country sends one contestant to the Miss Universe contest. There, one girl will win the title, Miss Universe <Year>. Is Zozibini Tunzi notable, she won in 2019. (She was also Miss South Africa, that year)? (a) - All contestants who make it to the final election are notable (they won a national competition) (b) - This would apply to Miss Veseli (Note: In 2020, there was no final Miss Universe contest); All conestants at a national competition are notable (c); All contestants are notable (d). So if we say that Miss Universe gives some notability, let's pick one of the options. Oh, btw: Official languages in Kosovo are Albanian and Serbian; Serbian can be written either with the Latin or the Cyrillic script. --Eptalon (talk) 19:36, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
That's not what the guidelines state. We cannot simply assume a person is notable because they took part in one competition and did nothing else of note, per en:WP:1E. --IWI (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Miss Universe - I couldn't find any other significant coverage of this person (also refer my earlier comments above). Chenzw  Talk  07:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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