Talk:Proper noun
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Are my observations about two types of proper nouns right?[change source]
According to my observation, in the English language there are two types of proper nouns. I mean:
1) the proper nouns each of which has no article and begins with an uppercase letter (for example: God, Everest),
2) the proper nouns each of which has the article "the" and begins with an uppercase or lowercase letter (for example: the Word, the Trinity, the floor, the ceiling).
All proper nouns preceeded by the article "the" are divided into constant proper nouns and temporary proper nouns. For instance:
1) in the monologue "When our yacht was approching the Bahamas we saw a boat, The boat was empty." the word "the Bahamas" is a constant proper noun while the word "the boat" is a temporary proper noun which can be replaced by the pronoun "it",
2) in the monologue "Dear, I brought you an apple, a pear and an orangle. Taste the fruits, please" the word "the fruits" is a temporary proper noun which can be replaced by the pronoun "them".
3) in the monologue "The floor is dirty in the kitchen. You have to wash the floor." the words "the floor" and "the kitchen" are temporary proper nouns. 94.26.145.33 (talk) 12:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- According to my observations, in the English language some temporary proper nouns are formed with the help of demonstrative pronouns ""this", "that", "these", "those". For instance:
- 1) in the monologue "When our yacht was approaching the Bahamas we saw a boat. This boat was empty." the word combination "this boat" is a temporary proper noun which can be replaced by the pronoun "it",
- 2) in the monologut "Dear, I have brought you an apple, a pear and an orange. Taste these fruits, please." the word combination "these fruits" is a temporary proper noun which can be replaced by the pronoun "them".
- The temporary proper noun "this boat" is longer than the temporary proper noun "the boat'. Also the temporary proper noun "these fruits" is longer than the temporary proper noun "the fruits". Therefore, I assume that temporary proper nouns with the article "the" are used more often than the temporary proper nouns with the demonstrative pronouns. 94.26.145.33 (talk) 00:51, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- No, the words that you called "temporary proper nouns" are not proper nouns. They are common nouns. In English, all proper nouns are capitalized. Lights and freedom (talk) 00:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have read your post and understood that from your point of view:
- 1) in the sentence "The first soldier ran forward while the second soldier ran back." the word combinations "the first soldier" and "the second soldier" are common nouns,
- 2) in the sentence "Open page N 3." the word combination "page N 3" is a common noun. 94.26.145.33 (talk) 16:50, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- No, the words that you called "temporary proper nouns" are not proper nouns. They are common nouns. In English, all proper nouns are capitalized. Lights and freedom (talk) 00:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)