Talk:Israel

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I don't know how to fix that huge gap in the beginning of the article. When I move the picture, the gap just transfers to another part of the page. zephyr2k 18:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

why you always show that map, it's not the true one.


21/08/2008 18:00 GMT -3

Changes made: The word "brutal" removed from the "The mass migration of Jews into Israel primarily from Europe and Russia led to brutal occupation of Palestinian land who were sent as refugees to neighbouring Arab countries" to fix the bias. The "forcibly took the lands from the Palestinians" was removed since it's a lie. The first settlers settled in desert zones and built Kubbtzim. The paragraph about the Israeli leaders also was removed Menachem Begin was the one that belonged to the organization "Irgun" (the one responsible for the King David hotel bombing),Ben Gurion didn't even belong to the Haganah. Seriously, research a bit before writing, the bombing of the Kind David wasn't a terrorist attack since it was a military target (by serving as a HQ for the British army), and The Haganah wasn't a terrorist organization.

Urik


Terrorist is a subjective word, look at Freedom fighter. F S M 21:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


21/08/2008 19:00 GMT -3

True, but the Haganah didn't use the tactics used by the Terrorist groups. Like the name says, they were a defense force. I don't deny that there was Israeli terrorism such as the Irgun, and that their members acquired high positions, something I don't agree with. But there's a big difference between the terrorist groups and the Haganah. The following is my own opinion, but I don't think that you can compare a terrorist, to a freedom fighter such as the Partisans during WWII. Basically, I catalog terrorists as someone that specifically hits civilians, such as Al-Qaeda, the ETA, or the CIRA, and Freedom Fighters someone like the Partisans during WWII, or the IRA, that aimed at military objectives. They both could chase the same objectives. But the way in which they follow them is different.

Urik



Make an account[change source]

You should make an account, you seem like quite a knowledgable person. We could use all the help we can get on this encyclopedia. F S M 22:05, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I do agree with you on most of that, but how can an outside observer tell the difference between those who actively target civilians and those who merely kill the innocent 'by accident' or 'misjudgement'. It's a grey area. F S M 22:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Controlling in Gaza Strip[change source]

Wasn't Israel left Gaza Strip in the Hitnatkut? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.221.124 (talkcontribs)

israel left Gaza strip in the Hitnatkot. All the settlements where evacuated. but in 2008 after 8 years thet Israel was bombed by Hammas missels, Israel attacked ("Oferret Yetsuka" operation). The operation was very complicated because Hammas was fighting insid civil populaied neighborhood Nizzan Cohen (talk) 09:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Ancient History..[change source]

This article starts off well enough, until I get to its take on ancient history. Look, since this is Simple Englis Wikipedia, I won't even bother adding that the designation of Israel's capital as 'Jerusalem' is contested by the international community. However, "Three thousand years ago, the Canaanites and other Semitic peoples lived here. Between about 1800 and 1500 BCE, another Semitic people, called the Hebrews, settled in Canaan after being freed from Egypt. They were named the “Children of Israel” or “Israelites”. The Israelites had 12 tribes. They chose a King, Saul, as their leader. The next king, David, began the Kingdom of Israel in about 1000 BCE and made the city of Jerusalem his capital. His son, Solomon, built the first Temple for the worship of God. Solomon died in about 928 BCE. His kingdom broke into two countries. The northern country kept the name Israel. The southern country, called Judah, kept Jerusalem as its capital." The first sentence sounds fair enough. From there onward, it sounds like a religious nut wrote it. Sorry to be blunt, but that's what it looks like. This is Simple English Wikipedia, not Conservapedia. Basically, I'm hoping that someone with more experience editing on Simple Wikipedia, taking into account the constraints involved with 'Simple' vocabulary can fix this article. Otherwise I'll have to try doing it myself, but it could look choppy.--Iamafanofpizza (talk) 23:19, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Name "Holy Land"[change source]

It is true that some commandments must be performed in the land of Israel. And it is true that the name Holy Land is of longstanding history. But I'm not sure that there is a "because" relationship here. Does that editor have a source? StevenJ81 (talk) 18:30, 9 February 2016 (UTC)