Talk:Main Page/Archive5

Translation tools

I am from Urdu Wikipedia and now I am going to start for Simple English version. Basically I am a translator and translate form English and Arabic to Urdu. I want to do the same for Simple English Wikipedia. Im looking for someone to contact me to help to start here. Thanks. Hmfs.ind (talk) 03:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Hmfs.ind: Welcome! What kind if help would you like? I would recommend reading Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages to learn about the requirements here. If you have any other questions, please post at WP:ST instead of here. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Link for the Cymraeg (welsh) wikipedia is wrong

{{editprotected}} At the bottom of the page, there are links to different Wikipedias. The link for the Cymraeg (Welsh) Wikipedia is incorrect. it should be cy.wikipedia.org Johnogwen123 (talk)

@Johnogwen123: Thank you very much for reporting the error. I've corrected the problem. If it still shows on your computer, try a hard refresh. Operator873^talkconnect 20:48, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@Johnogwen123 and Operator873: I usually maintain this, and probably miscopied. I apologize; certainly no offense was intended. Thank you for correcting, Operator. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:09, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Did you Know Section

Can the Did you know, section and the picture be updated, it's been the same for a long time. thanks. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: I've switched the DYK to queue 6. Hiàn (talk) 01:35, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:39, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Yash paul rajput (talk) 15:48, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Queue

Could we have an automatic queue changer switching between the did you knows every week? This way the did you know section does not stay the same for a very long time. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

We do have a queue, but the problem is we don't have people creating DYK hooks very often, so they are left the same for a longer period on purpose so we don't run out of hooks. It is not uncommon for us to leave them the same for a couple months (sometimes more than 6). The solution if you want them changed faster is to start suggesting hooks. We have only had 11 suggested in the last two years. Because Hian switched the queue last time you asked we are now out of DYK hooks except those 11 I mentioned earlier which haven't yet been approved. So if you want newer hooks we need more otherwise we will be on these ones for a good period of time. -DJSasso (talk) 11:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I might note that a new queue was made on May 20 with 5 hooks that had been approved. (Made by FR on May 20 by pulling the approved ones off of the suggestion page). It would seem to be ready to be rotated on to the main page. There are also 18 hooks on the suggestions page waiting for approval or disapproval. (Granted I submitted 3 just now so it was less earlier today). I would think out of those 18 we can probably get at least 5 approved to build the next queue after the one I linked above. But I am also happy to keep suggesting more hooks regularly. The issue is that current policy seems to limit the suggestions to 4 hooks at a time per editor. Maybe we should consider removing that limit? If so I'll suggest more...just trying not to break the rules. Desertborn (talk) 14:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Also Queue 4 and Queue 5 have hooks. But I remember someone saying they were not approved yet. Should I move them back to the suggestion page so they can be reviewed and approved? Desertborn (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

DJSasso, I'd be happy to make some more dyk's. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:55, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Pinging @TDKR Chicago 101: and @Hiàn: in case you want to comment. Desertborn (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

I think at some point Vermont brought over an enwiki admin familiar with en's infrastructure at some point (see Wikipedia:Simple_talk/Archive_124#Status_of_DYK) so we could very well set a slower rotation (two weeks per queue maybe?) and ramp up DYK work significantly.

I know in the past the hook restrictions were put in place due to one editor clogging up the DYK process and I'm not suggesting they be removed, but I'm thinking easing these restrictions to get more through might be beneficial. Hiàn (talk) 15:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Yeah we can probably ease up on them a bit, I don't think anyone would have a problem with that unless it becomes all one person again. But yeah really we are heavily reliant on DYK creation if people want to see it rotated more than every few months. -DJSasso (talk) 17:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Weight vs Mass

The Wikipedia page https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_measurement in it's opening dialogue comparing the major systems of measurement mentions that in the metric or SI system that the kilogram is a unit of weight. This is incorrect - the kilogram is a measure of mass. Further down the article it does say the kilogram is the unit of mass in the metric system but goes on to say "the kilogram weighs..." and "1 gram (g) is the weight of...". Lastly I note that in the Converting Between Systems section under Mass it gives conversions of ounces and pounds to grams and kilograms. Clearly the writer does not distinguish between mass and weight and treats them as though they are the same thing. p.s. The metric system or SI does not have a base unit of weight - one would use a compound unit such as a Newton (1 kg*m/s^2) to measure weight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.229.10.238 (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

@207.229.10.238: This is a good point you raise. We do need to fix it. May I suggest you boldly make an attempt at changing it? Our motto here is that if you see a change that is needed, go for it. Of course you may want to read up on some of what is noted on simple start first. Desertborn (talk) 01:39, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes I did enjoy edit editing this??? Thank you Wikipedia Avilesgabrielj (talk) 07:32, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Selected Article

There is no Selected article in mobile view, there is just the sections: About Wikipedia & Did you know. If a sysop could fix this it would be a great help.--SADIQUI (talk) 22:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

I choose the best way to edit it

It was easy and hard to to complete this !! Avilesgabrielj (talk) 07:34, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes its hard but will power can change anything Munazza205 (talk) 08:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Suggested Grammar edit

Instead of "If you need help, you may ask questions at Simple talk..." Should it be "If you need help, you can ask questions at Simple talk..." ? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Either one seems fine to me. One means ability, the other means permission: either applies. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:23, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

It seems a little complex, shall we go striaght to the point (i.e. "If you need help, feel free to ask us at ST" or even more to the point "Ask us on ST if you need any help?"). --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

In the first question, the phrase "feel free" is probably complex. A question in the form of your second suggestion may be ambiguous: is it saying 1) if you need help then ask on ST or 2) if you want to know whether you need help (such as, whether the community feels that you need help because there are problems with your work), then ask at ST. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, I didn't know you replied so early and came here to ammend my proposal. Will this be better? Need Help? Have any Questions? Ask us [[WP:ST|here]]!--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 10:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

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Auntof6 I know it's been a long time since this question, but what do you think? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 16:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

How about "If you need help or you have questions, you can ask at WP:Simple talk." The shortened " Need help?" and "Have any questions?" aren't the way English learners learn to form questions, so it might confuse them. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:23, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Mobile main page special casing will be disabled July

Per phab:T254287, mobile special casing will be disabled in July. This means the Main Page will look like this on phones (reduce your browser window or use devtools to simulate what it would look like on a phone). I've created User:BrandonXLF/sandbox with modified version of the Main Page that uses User:BrandonXLF/styles.css for styling, making the page easier to edit and smaller in size. This version is mobile friendly and no longer requires Template:Main Page subpanel and Template:Main Page panel. You see how it looks on desktop by going here and how it looks on mobile by going here. To use this version you would have to:

1. Copy the contents of User:BrandonXLF/sandbox to Main Page
2. Move User:BrandonXLF/styles.css to Main Page/styles.css
3. Replace User:BrandonXLF/styles.css with :Main Page/styles.css in the code from User:BrandonXLF/sandbox

There a few differences between the pages visually (although they are very minor), please ping me if you have any issues with the code or the presentation of the new page. - BrandonXLF (talk) 04:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Djsasso: You seem to be the last person who edited the Main Page, can you implement these changes? - BrandonXLF (talk) 21:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I will get to it later today when I have a chance to focus on it. -Djsasso (talk) 13:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done. -Djsasso (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

kowiki

{{Changeprotected}} kowiki has 500,000 more articles. Please change. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gondoli4696: Yes you are right. Should be updated. IWI (chat) 11:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Then... how to edit request "Main Page"? ㅡ Gomdoli4696 (talk) 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gondoli4696: Template:Changeprotected. IWI (chat) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I added. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 01:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done Naleksuh (talk) 01:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: But... my username is "Gomdoli4696". :) --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 13:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gomdoli4696: Oh dear haha. Managed to make that mistake twice. Sorry :) IWI (chat) 14:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

kowiki

{{Changeprotected}} kowiki has 500,000 more articles. Please change. Gomdoli4696 (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gondoli4696: Yes you are right. Should be updated. IWI (chat) 11:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Then... how to edit request "Main Page"? ㅡ Gomdoli4696 (talk) 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gondoli4696: Template:Changeprotected. IWI (chat) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

I added. --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 01:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done Naleksuh (talk) 01:49, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: But... my username is "Gomdoli4696". :) --Gomdoli4696 (talk) 13:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Gomdoli4696: Oh dear haha. Managed to make that mistake twice. Sorry :) IWI (chat) 14:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Update the "Useful pages" link

Change the "Useful pages" link near the top to link to Wikipedia:Useful pages instead of Wikipedia:Useful, as the page was moved this year. thanks. Nurg (talk) 22:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. But I would note that it did redirect so doing it was unnecessary per en:WP:NOTBROKEN. -Djsasso (talk) 12:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

How to add my name in Wikipedia ?

My aim is the social services through politician & organic farming. Kushal pandey organic (talk) 18:25, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

@Kushal pandey organic: If that's a commercial username, that may be a problem, espcially if you are making commercial edits. I don't know what you mean by "adding your name in Wikipedia" though. If you mean to create an article, go to that article's name and press "create source". But I am worried that you may be trying to create an article to promote something, which may result in your article being deleted. If you have any questions, letme know :) Computer Fizz (talk) 19:13, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

I want to mention my details in Wikipedia as my biography. How can i do it H S Aithani (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Short answer is you don't. Hiàn (talk) 19:14, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Okay Lianakoena (talk) 11:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Hindi

You should have all the lang Heema Jain (talk) 07:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

@Heema Jain: Hindi is there. If you don't see it, it could be because of your settings. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:16, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Sir Arshad solanki (talk) 18:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Anyone there Arshad solanki (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Hii sir Pradeep patel unitian (talk) 01:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Arshad solanki and Pradeep patel unitian: If you have a question, just ask. Please don't just keep saying hello. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Sayed Shahab Haider Politician (talk) 11:26, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Can those who post stop repeatedly posting "Hello" and state your question? It creates unnecessary clutter. Dh.wp (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Missing pages that where here before

Um… Is it just me or are the following gone from Wikipedia: Piper, short film by Pixar Adventure by Warren Robinett (video game on atari) Great Fire of 1910, a forest fire that happenned in the northwest They are like gone… Atarian 10:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I've located them for you.

» Great Fire of 1910
» Adventure (1980 video game)
» Piper (film)

Dh.wp (talk) 16:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Update

It needs to be easier to insert photos, infoboxes, links, references,… into articles and user pages. Atarian 12:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

1. 1. 1. QUIRKEY-OBTAINED###
      2. SMARTERER### PONYexpressions (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I couldnt quite understand, could you please reexplain? Dh.wp (talk) 16:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

COVID Main Page Header

See my proposal of having a header on the main page relating to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic and relating articles to make it easier for our readers to navigate and look for information.--TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. Dh.wp (talk) 16:07, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

<a href="/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic" title="COVID-19 pandemic">COVID-19 pandemic</a>

<a href="/wiki/Coronavirus_disease_2019" title="Coronavirus disease 2019">Disease</a>

<a href="/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2" title="Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2">Virus</a>

<a href="/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territory" title="COVID-19 pandemic by country and territory">By location</a>

<a href="/wiki/Impact_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic" title="Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic">Impact</a>

<a href="/wiki/Portal:Coronavirus_disease_2019" title="Portal:Coronavirus disease 2019">Portal</a>

This might be a good idea. Information from the English Wikipedia. Dh.wp (talk) 16:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Long since already done. You realize you are commenting on very out of date discussions right? -Djsasso (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Complicated lingo HERE, set an example and hence first eat your own dogfood!

I really stumbled over this mentally:

"Use Basic English vocabulary and shorter sentences. This allows people to understand normally complex terms or phrases

Should read, IMO:

Use simple English words and write short sentences. This helps people understand words and sentences that would be difficult if you write in a complicated way.

Just my two cents.

Cheers, 87.148.44.217 (talk) 14:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree. Tradedia (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, although this would be a minor change. Dh.wp (talk) 16:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

add link

Under the section:

"Be Bold Your article does not have to be perfect..." there is no Wikilink to WP:Bold, we should add the wp:bold link to the word "Be Bold" --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 18:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is a metaphor for "don't fret" or similarly "don't shy away", and tells you that your article doesn't have to be perfect. Conclusion, not needed. Dh.wp (talk) 16:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

en:WP:NOTBROKEN Dh.wp (talk) 16:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

What is service mean

--108.70.119.144 (talk) 15:57, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean. Could you say a little more? IWI (chat) 16:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Service is defined as the action of helping or doing work for someone.

Information provided by the Merriam Webster Dictionary. Dh.wp (talk) 15:59, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Language

Hi sir, Please added talk language in Bangla. Muhammad Shariff12 (talk) 18:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Update is needed

The "Arabic Wikipedia" has now more than a 1,000,000 article. Thanks. Tradedia (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done and updated others. --IWI (talk) 00:58, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Main Page Title

Under "Welcome to Wikipedia" we have, "the free encyclopedia that anyone can change", should it be "The free encyclopedia that anyone can change."? --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

 (change conflict)  (change conflict)  No, but there should be a comma after "Wikipedia" and a full stop after "change". See en:Main Page; that's how they do it. --IWI (talk) 00:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

 (change conflict) @Thegooduser: @ImprovedWikiImprovment: I boldly added the change as 1) it's proper punctuation anyway and 2) it is all languages, not just English. Operator873^talkconnect 00:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:47, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

How about a "In the News" widget for the front page?

It could be like the one on En wiki, except in simple. I would say leave out the politics though; no need for that here. Derpdart56 (talk) 03:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

We don't have enough editors currently to be able to maintain an in the news section, which is why we don't have one. -DJSasso (talk) 13:43, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. Derpdart56 (talk) 14:38, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Couldn't we make a bot for that though? A bot that takes news articles and converts them into simple somehow? Derpdart56 (talk) 14:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Bots are not allowed to create content. And converting to simple isn't easy enough that a bot would be able to do it well. -DJSasso (talk) 14:41, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Bots are also prone to making a lot of mistakes and can't think like a human, but i like your idea. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:59, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

What if you just give the bot access to online news and get it to copy it down on the “In The News” widget? Stupstup (talk) 01:31, 11 January 2021 (UTC) Then user could edit it and make it simple? Stupstup (talk) 01:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello. It still would have a chance of making mistakes, and just copying down online news is a copyright violation. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Change: Use Basic English vocabulary and shorter sentences. to: Use Basic English words and shorter sentences

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This is simple English so it should use as little jargon as possible, many non-native English speakers have no idea what "Vocabulary" means and with good reason, I did not learn the word Vocabulary until I was in 8th grade, and for readers who want understand clear, direct and sharp wording they probably wont like the wording. The main argument against would be that "Vocabulary" is a more descriptive word then "Word" but the definition of Vocabulary according to Marian Webster is "a list or collection of words or of words and phrases usually alphabetically arranged and explained or defined", so the main difference is word means any word and vocabulary means a list of words usually in alphabetical order, the difference is minimal and people will be able to understand it all regardless.

Lots of people wont know what vocabulary means, and is not as understandable or direct as words. I therefore think this would be a positive change. Vallee01 (talk) 22:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

• Yes, I quite like this suggested change. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Except, of course, that the simple English vocabulary itself has inbuilt weaknesses, and those weaknesses tend to be in the sciences and technologies. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

• This change has been done by User:Eptalon.--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 03:29, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Query

Hello, I’m Shift674. I’ve noticed that when there are no results in a search, the word “query” comes up. The word may be hard for some people to understand, so I’ve been wondering if we can change the word. -Shift674-🌀 15:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

@Shift674: This is irrelevant to the Main Page. Please move this to simple talk. --IWI (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

what a great idea! this is pretty good. im on board with you and i will try to make it happen. Keelanscanlan (talk) 18:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the main page today

The article-of-the-day is broken. It's showing as blank with a red link "Main Page/Article 9" under "Selected article". The whole section is blank apart from that and the COVID-19 banner. I guess this needs fixing! GPinkerton (talk) 18:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

GPinkerton, I see a, red link to "Main Page/Article 10". ~ Hulged (talk) 06:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Same per Hulged. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 09:29, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah when Eptalon demoted the article he forgot to move the highest numbered article to the gap. It has been fixed now for all the ones that were demoted. -Djsasso (talk) 13:45, 29 June 2021 (UTC)