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Current national leaders[change | change source]

Today I noticed that one of our IP editors has made quite a few edits over the last few months to change the names of national leaders (prime ministers, etc.) None of the changes was referenced. Does anyone know of a place where we can look up the current leaders of various countries (for example, Mongolia) and other organizations (for example, the United Nations)? I'd like to try to get references for these changes and revert any that might not be true. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:00, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

This might seem a bit obvious, but I would check on enwiki as a starting point, following links through to the articles if the names do not match, or you want to find refs. Another source is the CIA fact book. --Peterdownunder (talk) 02:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
I looked on enwiki, and saw some of these same changes, but also without references. I use enwiki for this kind of thing cautiously, since a vandal can make the same changes in both places. I'll look at the CIA site, thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 03:31, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
This probably won't help either but you could try the Mongolian wiki... Eurodyne (talk) 01:56, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Nope, same issue as with enwiki. Besides, I haven't gotten around to learning Mongolian yet! --Auntof6 (talk) 02:22, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Is there a Mongolian wiki? What is the language code? Eurodyne (talk) 05:13, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, there is. The language code is "mn". --Auntof6 (talk) 05:19, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

pages being "FAKE' protected by IP editors and other reg users[change | change source]

I thought pages could only be protected by admins. Can admins sign out and edit as an ip to protect pages? Please see this example here [1] Is that just fake protecting by an editor? In the summaries the editor falsely implies there was disruptive editing to the article. All I did was to post a tag to please get a reference. Someone please advise. Thanks. I have seen several instances like this over the last week or so. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 07:26, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

It is 100% fake. The ip just added the templates and faked the summary. If he/she could semiprotect the page he/she couldn't then edit it as an ip. Ah3kal (talk) 07:34, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Only admins can protect pages, and they must be logged in to do so. Adding a template does not protect the page. We don't even put protection templates on most of the protected pages. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments and answers. I knew something looked a bit off!!! Carriearchdale 08:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Wow, what a smart IP editor!Amanda Call Me 14:02, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Before, on enwiki, I've seen an IP use STiki which is impossible. Turns out, it is the same as this case here. Eurodyne (talk) 06:46, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Article feedback[change | change source]

Hi! Is there a procedure to receive feedback for my first article? I only found Wikipedia:Proposed good articles, but that's not really what I am looking for. I just need some feedback about the language I used and whether it's simple enough, or any other relevant to language feedback. Thank you in advance. -Ah3kal (talk) 09:05, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Simple English Wikipedia! There is no specific procedure for getting feedback, but asking on this page is a good way. It would help if you give a link to the arbutle. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. The article is Stoa of Eumenes. --Ah3kal (talk) 09:56, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
It looks good. I have a suggestion. I noticed that you used the British way of describing the stories of a building (the ground floor is at ground level, and the next floor up is the first floor), as opposed to the American way (ground floor and first floor mean the same thing, and the next floor up is the second floor). It's okay to do that, but it would be clearer for all readers if you said something like "top floor" instead of "first floor". Other than that, it looks good, and thanks for the new article! --Auntof6 (talk) 10:33, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll change that, I used it because it's also the greek way (my native language) of naming stories. --Ah3kal (talk) 10:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Global AbuseFilter[change | change source]

Hello,

AbuseFilter is a MediaWiki extension used to detect likely abusive behavior patterns, like pattern vandalism and spam. In 2013, Global AbuseFilters were enabled on a limited set of wikis including Meta-Wiki, MediaWiki.org, Wikispecies and (in early 2014) all the "small wikis". Recently, global abuse filters were enabled on "medium sized wikis" as well. These filters are currently managed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and have shown to be very effective in preventing mass spam attacks across Wikimedia projects. However, there is currently no policy on how the global AbuseFilters will be managed although there are proposals. There is an ongoing request for comment on policy governing the use of the global AbuseFilters. In the meantime, specific wikis can opt out of using the global AbuseFilter. These wikis can simply add a request to this list on Meta-Wiki. More details can be found on this page at Meta-Wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on m:Talk:Global AbuseFilter.

Thanks,

PiRSquared17, Glaisher

— 17:34, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey, is anyone else interested? PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:15, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
To be honest, I think we should opt out of this: While on paper, such filters look great, please keep in mind the following:
  • An abuse fliter is created as a desire to automatically fight certain kinds of vandalism in an automated manner.
  • All abuse filters do is some kind of pattern matching, plus perhaps assessing the group the editor is in.
  • Personally, I am fine that a local admin creates or changes an abuse filter on this wiki, in response to abuse that occurs here. I do not feel well with a steward (who is completely outside this community) dictating, that from now on, this kind of abuse should be dealt with in that way. It will only increase bureaucracy overhead, and not give the desired result.
  • Another problem: If the abuse filter gives a standardized message, this has to be adapted to our wiki...
In short, I see the creation of some resource listing common filters, and perhaps a global mailing list to discuss abuse filters, I am totally against global filtering, as it curtails our rights as a community to decide what we consider abuse and how we deal with it. --Eptalon (talk) 22:18, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
What he said. -DJSasso (talk) 01:38, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #9—2014[change | change source]

23:29, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Antônio Ricardo dos Santos[change | change source]

Antônio Ricardo dos Santos, politician with extensive coverage of sources. With interwikis, and was summarily deleted? Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:08, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

The article was deleted (twice) because it was copied from English Wikipedia without being simplified. You might find Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia helpful in understanding what is required when copying an article here from another Wikipedia. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:18, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Is an important politician in the State of Paraná, with street name and town squares. I have done a summary. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that still needed simplifying. It also had some bad grammar in it. Would you like me to restore your original version to your userspace so you can work on it there? Please don't create another version of the article at this time. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:42, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

His Excellency ???[change | change source]

His Excellency, totally pejorative article José Sarney. Removed and reseated. This article only exists in other Presidents, does not exist. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:13, 15 November 2014 (UTC). See Category:Presidents of Brazil. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:15, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you're saying. Isn't the term "His/Her Excellency" used with Presidents of Brazil? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:21, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Of course not, it's not a country nobly. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your English. The English Wikipedia article President of Brazil indicates that the president is referred to as Sua Excelência, which is "His/Her Excellency" in English. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:33, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Your Excellency is for Kings and Queens and since 1889 imperial family does not exist in Brazil, so it's a pejorative suit totally unused, so it is not indicated in any President. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:37, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
en:Excellency#Brazil indicates that it is a proper form, and has a reference for that. Also, what do you mean by "pejorative suit"? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:48, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Then finish with this Wikipedia[change | change source]

I don't understand why Wikipedia exists. Articles with sources are deleted, then delete this Wikipedia and save servers. Also don't leave fix derogatory terms that diminish the image of a President of a nation. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 05:44, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Margarida!,

I hate to hear you sound so distressed about all of this. I may be able to help you with the article that you want to write. I am fluent in Portuguese, as well as a few other languages. I looked up the info on your wanted article subject, and started a workshop for us in my sandbox if you would like we could collaborate on the article, and prepare it so it could be included in the encyclopedia. It is entirely up to you. But, I just thought that it would be the kindest thing for me to offer that might alleviate your stresses right now. It is located here. [3]

Feel free to edit the article inside the workshop, and maybe can get it accepted here. I will help as much as I can. Please leave any questions on my talk page. ciao!!! Carriearchdale 06:22, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carriearchdale/Sandbox/Antônio_Ricardo_dos_Santos


I appreciate your intention. I have no more interest in editor around here. You can delete the article of your draft page. The article already exists in Portuguese and in English I added and no problems occurred. Therefore, I will never disturb you here. My experience there was unpleasant. Margarida Seiko Okumoto (talk) 16:56, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Germann[change | change source]

Doo you german wikipediaa

Hallo! Der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia finden Sie hier. Eurodyne (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2014 (UTC)