Talk:List of fruits

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Why Not Pumpkin[change source]

How come pumpkin is a fruit

The thing is that the botanical definition of "fruit" and the ordinary person's usage of the term is quite different. We decided, being simple, to have the common usage of the term. Ordinary people see a pumpkin as a vegetable. That's the reason. Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:00, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
It is for the same reason said by User:Macdonald-ross that we don't see Tomato in this category although in reality it is in fact also a fruit. -Pending(tell me I screwed up and where) 14:05, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Pears[change source]

Under Pear, this list has the Williams Pear and the Bartlett Pear as subtypes of Pear. This is not right in two ways. First, the Williams Pear and the Bartlett Pear are different names for the same cultivar (read Williams pear), two, if you're going to list individual cultivars, you are going to end with a huge list (several times its length now). It might be worth it to list species of Pear(European pear, Asian pear, Chinese white pear), but not cultivars. I'll remove the two for now and just leave Pear. If anyone thinks that particular cultivar is worth noting for some reason, they can add it as a single entry and not as two different ones. --R

Pluot[change source]

As the En wiki page makes clear, this is a name for a type of F2 hybrid between F1 generation hybrids, specifically between later generations of hybrid that are genetically one-fourth (25%) apricot and three-fourths (75%) plum. This is taking things too far for a simple list, since a) the list is not intended to be complete, b) the distinction between F1 and F2 hybrids would introduced unnecessary complexity, and the term is also quite rare, and seems to be used only in the United States. I've no doubt there are hundreds of names for hybrids, but if they are not in common use, they are not needed here. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:31, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

I think that's being unnecessarily complex about what can be included. There are no rules for this page, except that items included must be fruits. Pluots are fruits. You say the list isn't intended to be complete? Why would we prevent it from being as complete as possible? So what if it isn't in common use? You say the term is rare and used only in the US? Pluots are pretty common where I live (so not as rare as you might think) and this list is not limited to items known in more than one country. Besides that, saying that something can't be included because it's known only in one country is against the spirit of having a global POV. There are several entries on the page that I've never seen in the US, so they're likely rare here, but that doesn't mean they should be removed. The enwiki version of this page includes pluots; there's no reason not to include them here. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
One further note: this and past actions of yours on this page smack of WP:OWN. Other people can also decide what belongs here. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:15, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

@Macdonald-ross: I'm going to put "pluot" back, because I don't see consensus anywhere for the things you list as reasons for removing it. If you want those reasons to be in effect, there needs to be consensus for them, which you could get by having a separate discussion on this page. Until there is such consensus, please do not use those reasons to remove pluot or any other entries. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

I found this page when I saw the re-addition of pluot to the list; it seems like the correct entry should be plumcot instead of the trademarked pluot. In either case, I'm going to look for these in my grocery store -- they look yummy. Etamni | ✉   15:17, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
I've boldly created a page for plumcot and a redirect for pluot that links there. Accordingly, I've changed the name in the list to the more generic term with the trademarked (but somewhat common) term in parenthesis. Etamni | ✉   19:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

how about tomatoes[change source]

tomatoes are fruits too you know --— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 07:44, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Tomatoes are included in the second list at the bottom of the article. This list is intended to list things that are considered fruit the way people normally talk about fruit, not in the scientific sense. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)