Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2021/Atto Abbas

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The outcome of this request for deletion was to Delete. Not notable Peterdownunder (talk) 00:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Atto Abbas[change source]

Atto Abbas (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

つがる has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: Don't get much from the typical Google lookup. Also Tagged as 'Cross Wiki Spam" in which the IP is constantly removing the QD Tags on this Wiki. Send to RFD for people's thoughts... Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 01:58, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.

Discussion[change source]

Doesn't seem anything notable or of value in what has been presented to this point. Billinghurst (talk) 02:01, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Football definitely isn't my area of expertise, but just looking around I did find a hit at Yahoo news, which leans me to a weak keep. From what I understand of NFOOTY, the threshold for notability is having had played in a professional league. With this subject being so young, I'm unsure if they meet that requirement. However the source reads as if they are at the very least about to be playing professionally soon, pending Covid restrictions.--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 02:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.kasimpasasporkulubu.com/kasimpasadan-son-gelismeler/ official team blog stop deleting verified articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nezashema (talk • contribs)
- Ridiculous... you even resort to creating hoax websites. This is the official team website. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 03:07, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete and SALT the article has been deleted multiple times on en.wiki, and SALTed. Nezashema and 45.156.29.58 also need to be blocked (same person). This cross-wiki spam is becoming difficult to control, so SALTing here would already be a good start. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 02:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Add User:Nilaeeo6, User:Zaaeeo10, *Donwiki112 to the list of sockpuppets. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 13:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ looks like a complete hoax. No evidence of the player playing for Kasımpaşa. ShadowBallX (talk) 03:07, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Changing my vote to

Quick Delete per the other pages. ShadowBallX (talk) 03:09, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This cannot be hoax = https://www.aspor.com.tr/kasimpasa/2020/11/19/arsenal-kasimpasanin-atto-abbasin-pesinde

~~https://www.posta.com.tr/arsenal-atto-abbasi-transfer-etmek-istiyor-2288041~~

~~https://www.asistanaliz.com/futbol/son-dakika-kasimpasali-atto-abbasa-arsenal-kancasi-a77456~~

~~https://t24.com.tr/haber/arsenal-kasimpasa-li-atto-abbas-in-pesinde,915531~~

~~https://www.cnnturk.com/spor/futbol/kasimpasali-abbas-arsenalin-radarinda~~

~~https://www.milliyet.com.tr/skorer/son-dakika-arsenal-kasimpasali-abbasin-pesinde-6357625~~sock strike. Praxidicae (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Strong Keep~~

The Fact that alot turkish media talk mention this player shown much notable for the page to be * Keep and player was mentioned on live transfer move to arsenal on the sun newspaper UK in January seems the deal didn't go throughsock strike. Praxidicae (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~KEEP~~

did my research and i suggest this page should be * Keepsock strike. Praxidicae (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

delete this is a hoax and contrary to the assertion that this is a reliable source, it is not. It's a press release and Yahoo will publish them for pay regardless of the accuracy of content. Praxidicae (talk) 14:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No apparent evidence of claims. Anyone can make claims that would meet NFOOTY, but these have to be verified for us to keep. --IWI (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I decided to look deeper into the player. While it looks like he might exist, he heavily fails GNG. And while it seems like Fabrizio Romano (a very credible person in soccer transfer rumors) had discussed the player being linked with a move to Arsenal, it actually is false (see this for the story). ShadowBallX (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
He probably exists, but this doesn't mean he plays for the teams/in the leagues that are claimed. --IWI (talk) 14:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
After a bit more deep searching, it seems that the player has been training with Kasımpaşa, which is why he probably doesn't appear on the website. He also did seem to be linked with a transfer to RB Leipzig back in November 2020. I also found an Instagram account. (Here is the link if you want to see it) ShadowBallX (talk) 21:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The person obviously exists. However, all claims to notability are false/hoaxes. Neither Arsenal nor RB Leipzig even know who the player is, and I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if the player's agent paid Kasımpaşa for Abbas to train with them (but not actually be part of the team). Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 21:45, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment if anyone wants to have a bit of fun, read this userpage in Spanish about Atto Abbas. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article has been speedy deleted via AfD in eswiki (per hoax and promotional) and enwiki (per notability concerns). El Rolo Ueeqee (talk) 22:27, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment We are not voting here it look like Nehme1499 is bringing all his friends Wikipedia editors to say delete this is blind argument let’s forget about Wikipedia or all Wikipedia families let’s talk about outside sources this page have so many outside sources reference that identify the page Turkish sport newspapers talk about this page and administrators let’s look at this let’s not forget the methodology of Wikipedia is powered by outside sources so Wikipedia editors saying previously page was deleted on wikieng doesn’t signify anything other than editor’s opinion.
Hi there, the page still fails notability guidelines on this Wikipedia and others. Whilst I see you have good intentions, the page just isn't notable to stay on the wiki. See WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG for more information. Fixing26 (talk) 11:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the good intentions in creating 10 accounts to avoid blocks, and creating this hoax footballer on every Wikipedia project possible so that there might be a chance that one stays up. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 13:20, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's probably true in regards to intentions, I have a tendency to give people the benefit of the doubt. Fixing26 (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please continue to do so; assuming good faith is an important principle on Wikipedia. --IWI (talk) 14:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Actions that are not consistent with good faith include vandalism, sockpuppetry, and lying." Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this was a general comment as he said he tended to give the benefit of doubt. --IWI (talk) 16:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes yes of course, AGF is paramount. But after a year of this, I think good faith can be thrown out of the window with this specific user(s). Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 16:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Delete deleted mutliple times cross wiki and not notable. Darubrub (talk) 14:45, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - In one of the articles, he was referred to as 'starlet', so could be a case of TOOSOON? Therefore, my vote would be towards delete. --185.69.144.102 (talk) 15:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. If an article calls a player a "starlet", that does not actually matters. What mainly maters is the content in the article. ShadowBallX (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion was due to close 4 days ago; all other projects have deleted the subject, and the Wikidata item has also been deleted. Can an admin please close this discussion? Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 18:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Other discussions also need to be closed, not just this. Darubrub (Let me know) 18:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok got it, I was unsure how the "due to close" worked here on simple.wiki. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 20:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Darubrub and Nehme1499: Admins will close an rfd discussion when they feel it's suitable. That can be on the same day if it is eligible for quick deletion, or, in some cases, a few days after the due to close date. Discussions are very rarely closed very close to the time requests are due to close, instead they are typically closed a day or so after it's due. --Ferien (talk) 20:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This request is due to close on 01:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.

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