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Grossly offensive material

This and this diff need to be revdel-ed for obvious reasons. IWI (chat) 01:06, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- Lofty abyss 02:33, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bad username

User Terrorist96 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) definitely classed as a bad username due to these two points from WP:USERNAME;

  • "Do not choose something that might be offensive. Your user name should not suggest that you hold any particular political, religious or other belief."
  • "People should be able to think things about you just based on your contributions, not on what they think about your name."

IWI (chat) 16:21, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking that, due to their constructive contributions on the English Wikipedia, it's best not to block them. Vermont (talk) 17:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, but we should perhaps encourage them to change their name. IWI (chat) 17:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
See here Terrorist96 (talk) 20:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. IWI (chat) 20:16, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Although discussions on enwiki hold no bearing on community consensus here, arguments put forward in that make sense and I don't see a point to a block. Vermont (talk) 21:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign username

Many wikis (such as Arabic) have a rule against usernames in foreign scripts. With that in mind, what is the stance here for לאג רעיל (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). The only way most of us can write this user's name is via copy and paste, which in my opinion is problematic. IWI (chat) 21:20, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We allow them. We have quite a few others. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:33, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know. IWI (chat) 21:47, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
With SUL being what it is now you can't really disallow them. I am surprised any wiki has a rule like that. -DJSasso (talk) 12:23, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just to note, arwiki username policy is that if there's a foreign or odd username, it will be blocked. Account creation will be disabled if the account have few changes outside arwiki. If the account have changes elsewhere in SUL, the account creation will not be disabled (autoblock disabled). This allows users to use another account to make changes on arwiki if needed while keeping their main account. That said, I don't think we should prevent the use of foreign usernames as users such as علاء (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) will be blocked. --Cohaf (talk) 12:30, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Odd policy at arwiki. That being said I have never had my account blocked there so I guess they don't consider latin alphabet foreign. -DJSasso (talk) 12:35, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Cohaf: for drew my attention to this discussion. First of all, we don't have such policy (rule against usernames in foreign scripts) in arwiki! so @ImprovedWikiImprovment: can you explain where you found it? or who said it to you?! --Alaa :)..! 13:03, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, what I say foreign above is meaning sounds extreme. I'm just giving what I know from meta. Sorry علاء if my info maybe inaccurate.--Cohaf (talk) 13:23, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed because I am indefinitely blocked on arwiki. I translated the reason to something about a foreign username. IWI (chat) 13:54, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@ImprovedWikiImprovment:. You'll be unblocked soon according to Alaa and he said there's nothing to do with foreign characters, your block per say. Regards,--Cohaf (talk) 15:07, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was as you have "wiki" in your username, which many wikis prohibit. Vermont (talk) 15:10, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve had "wiki" in my username since 2014, I never realised it was a problem. I will never edit on arwiki as far as I know anyway. IWI (chat) 15:25, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @علاء: for explaining that Ar-wiki doesn't have a policy against usernames in foreign languages. Thanks @Vermont: for explaining that the reason of blocking was the word "wiki", which is a "reserved word" that should not be used as a username. Regarding the case of blocking illegal usernames, we give a warning for one week to allow users to ask for changing that name or to explain if it is not illegal. Any way, Brother Alaa unblocked the account, and I ask all users to reply to the warning and notice on thier talk-pages to avoid a similar case. Thanks for you. --Dr-Taher (talk) 05:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suppose, though, that it's useful to know where there are people who can read usernames in non-Latin-scripts to make sure they don't otherwise violate username policy. (I can surely handle Hebrew alphabet for this wiki.) StevenJ81 (talk) 14:03, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant Dopenguins sock

87.245.125.143 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Making same edits made by other socks. IWI (chat) 19:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Djsasso. IWI (chat) 19:27, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked Operator873talkconnect 19:41, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. IWI (chat) 19:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry wasn't around when it was happening. But yes, this is very much Dopenguins based on edits. -DJSasso (talk) 11:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spacing missing below "From Wikipedia..."

The text "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" on the English wiki has quite a bit of content under #contentSub. Simple EN wiki has none.On the EN wiki, #contentSub starts off with:

 <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-fr-revisiontag" class="flaggedrevs_short flaggedrevs_stable_synced plainlinks noprint nomobile"><div class="flaggedrevs_short_basic"><img ...

This removes a space that should be there. – NixinovaT|C01:27, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

IP user pages

For what particular reason are IP changers not allowed to have user pages? Angela Maureen (talk) 22:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

IP's change, and are frequently used by multiple people. As there is no way to verify, only registered accounts can have userpages. Also, nice new username. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 23:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How to write... page

Every day we get dozens of pages which are not vandalism, but which do not meet the basic criteria for an article. I think one way to reduce this is to make clear on our "How to" page that:

  1. No pages should be written just on the basis of the writer's opinions.
  2. All pages should be based on reliable sources, and should quote those sources in a proper manner.

You see, what we have is a decent page on what Simple English is, and nothing else. Since the contributors are mostly young and naive, we need to be more explicit. Also, it's pretty clear that although we ourselves read the basic WP pages on big brother, none of the kids do. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:17, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Worth a try. Yottie =talk= 11:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments:
  1. Isn't that covered by WP:OR?
  2. Are you saying we should start enforcing the requirement that all articles have references?
Also, I think this should be on Simple talk. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is covered by OR, but I think the point is that new users won’t read it. I think we should consolidate and condense multiple policies into one how to page. This proposal sounds good. And yes, ST would be the best place for this. IWI (chat) 13:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
New users won't always read this page, either. We could summarize multiple policies in one place, but not actually combine them. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah summarizing on a page is ok but merging them into one would not be. I believe that is what our welcome messages try to do, perhaps that message needs to be updated. You aren't going to stop it completely because most new users when they create an article, do so without having read anything, or at least that is my guess. I know if I were some new editor I probably wouldn't be reading some policy pages before I create my first article. -DJSasso (talk) 10:50, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Besides updating welcome messages, I think I would also update the following:
StevenJ81 (talk) 16:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism only accounts

Cuzeverynameistaken (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Bloodwynde (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Vandalism only accounts. --Yottie =talk= 21:35, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked by Vermont and Lofty abyss Operator873talkconnect 02:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Inactive Bots

Hi all, I noticed some bots which are used in the past for interwiki links (before wikidata comes into place) are inactive for quite a long period of time. For those who have active operators, I am less concerned. I am concerned for bots like Makecat-bot (talk · contribs) which their operator Makecat is inactive and have been indef for sockpuppetery at zhwp. Do we allow the bots to continue running. I am posting here instead of Simple Talk is that if a crat deem a deflag is needed, it will be better here. Feel free to move if necessary. Regards,--Cohaf (talk) 16:16, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a crat, but I think it would be reasonable to deflag and block bots whose only approved functions are things we don't need any more. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I run a sweep through them once a year and remove them. If they haven't made an edit in a year they are removed unless they have an active owner here. I recently did this so there shouldn't be any, not sure how makecatbot never had theirs removed. Must not show on the list. I will remove now. -DJSasso (talk) 18:19, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Little surprised there were as many as there were. I was positive I had removed some of these at one point. Must have been ones that were never added to the bot list when the flags were granted. Oh well. It is all cleaned up now. -DJSasso (talk) 18:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Auntof6 for the reply and Djsasso for cleaning up.--Cohaf (talk) 05:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

user name

Cunftungus (talk · contribs) - nuf said. --Creol(talk)

Indeffed as bad user name. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection for User talk:Tegel?

I know it's a talk page and so normally wouldn't get protection, but it has an extremely long history of vandalism and is a target for LTAs. J991 15:10, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it might be a good idea for a semi-protection for at least a couple of month. I have referred to my Meta talk page for serious users. -- Tegel (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pro tem I've restricted edits on this page to registered users for a month. A problem is that talk pages are for communication with users, so protection prevents other sensible IPs from messaging there. This one has been attacked by a persistent IP perhaps with a floating IP address. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmoud Reza Khavari and Sam Mizrahi

There has been coordinated efforts to remove any connection between wanted Iranian Canadian banker Mahmoud Reza Khavari and Sam Mizrahi. In 2016 the globe and mail and Financial post reported that Iranian Canadian banker who fled to Canada has invested in properties owned by Mizrahi developments and there has been legal dispute about financial issues between the two parties. Since this issue is a sensitive political issue and involves issues regarding middle east, there has been coordinated disruptive behavior to remove this connection probably by people associated with Mizrahi developments. The page has been edited to remove the sourced information from the globe and mail by User:Shemtovca multiple times over the past two years, each time removing information that was published by globe and mail, most of the time with a cover up of WP:ATP or WP:NPOV where in fact the goal was and is to remove this information from public eyes. The user El_C now has blocked me for trying to prevent removal of this sensitive information from this page. I don't think users with this kind of behavior should have access to block, and anybody who is neutral to middle east issues would see what is going on here. involved parties: User:Shemtovca User:El_C — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterofthename (talkcontribs)

I think you're on the wrong wiki... Vermont (talk) 10:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

urgent

there is a ip harassing my talkpage,can someone please block him,please,he is sending me harm threats.AlAboud83 (talk) 03:57, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@AlAboud83: I have blocked the IP as a courtesy, but to be honest I can't decipher the messages that user left. Please translate for me. If you want, you can explain by email. If this happens again, please leave at least one or two warnings before reporting the user. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.AlAboud83 (talk) 04:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

possible LTA?

I know I should report this in the VIP page but i believe this user is a sock of Bambifan101, this IP is also blocked in other wikis. Zaxxon0 (talk) 01:54, 20 April 2019 (UTC)2602:306:83A9:3D00:5408:B396:262C:C5D2[reply]

Blocked the range for 6 months. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 01:58, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Query for a Onestrike block

Hi. I have a user from the English Vikidia site who says that they've been blocked on ENWP. A check on their user and talk pages reveals that they have also made an account here. I believe that SEWP operate a onestrike policy, so I just wanted to make you aware that the user, User:Thewinrat, is on your site. Best :) DaneGeld (talk) 21:57, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CIR isn't really a thing here, and as that's what they were blocked for on the English Wikipedia, WP:ONESTRIKE likely does not apply. Vermont (talk) 22:55, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CIR is a thing here, we block for it all the time. That being said, no need to warn us about every user blocked over there. If it becomes an issue here we then usually look on en to see if it was a problem there in the past. -DJSasso (talk) 10:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's significantly more prevalent (and is even considered a supplement to a guideline) on the English Wikipedia. Vermont (talk) 10:34, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah they only upped it to that within the last year. To be honest I would probably do the same here if it were up for discussion. It is the basis for the vast majority of our community bans. That being said we haven't done many of those lately. But I would most certainly use it as a basis for onestrike here which was really the point of this discussion. -DJSasso (talk) 10:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify my doubt about user name policy

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username#Offensive_names_policy

           Do not use the name of a political, military or religious figure or event (including real people).
           Do not choose something that might be offensive. Your user name should not suggest that you hold any particular political, religious or other belief.

JESUS Sikhism Buddhism or any religion related user names are against user name policy ?

(Boorandi (talk) 18:22, 24 April 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Yes, you can't use any religious figures names for a username and ones that imply a strong religious leaning are discouraged. -DJSasso (talk) 18:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We do have to look at some of these on a case-by-case basis. There are names that evoke religious figures but which are also valid names for people today. A couple that come to mind are Jesus and Mohammad. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please read this link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bona_Dea

Bona Dea ([bɔ.na ˈde.a] 'Good Goddess') was a goddess in ancient Roman religion. She was associated with chastity and fertility in Roman women

User:Bonadea is a religious user name. User name should not suggest that hold any particular political, religious or other belief.

(Boorandi (talk) 18:46, 24 April 2019 (UTC))[reply]

The wording on that page is "Some names do not offend people, but they show a strong view or are very religious. These names are discouraged but less seriously than names that offend people". Discouraged doesn't mean you can't, just that you shouldn't. I would say that a name such as that would probably not be an issue. -DJSasso (talk) 18:51, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above pagesays : "If someone complains about your user name, please think about changing it. If lots of people complain, you will have to change it" . My request is suggest this user to change user name.Its definitely discouraged user name

(Boorandi (talk) 19:14, 24 April 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Sounds more like you have a grudge against them to me. They have edited here all of once this year and only a handful of times over the past few years. And the first thing you do with your account is to come here and complain about their name. I would watch out for the boomerang effect myself. -DJSasso (talk) 19:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I will contribute here a long movement with your help .Accidentally i found this religious violate user name User:Bonadea and just informs here.Because before open my account here ,i verified the user name policy and other policies. Thanq for your support and advise(Boorandi (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Just as a FYI, Djsasso, this is a sockpuppet of a serial troll who has been site banned from en.wiki and has created several hundred socks. Not worth replying to, really. Their original user name is Nsmutte, in case you want to check for yourself. --Bonadea (talk) 19:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked. They've been doing the same on enwiki noticeboards under multiple usernames recently, oddly using Simple English Wikipedia links on enwiki AN posts. Vermont (talk) 19:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I had a feeling it was, but I couldn't match them to anyone specific. -DJSasso (talk) 20:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ChenzBot Retired

I think you guys should notice that the anti-vandal bot has taken a break. Zaxxon0 (talk) 19:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We need some sort of backup bot, or to replace it entirely as Chenzw is semi/inactive. Vermont (talk) 19:16, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I keep meaning to ask him to give me access to the source so I can spin one up when needed. I will ping him. -DJSasso (talk) 19:22, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just a random thought. Would it be possible for ClueBot NG from the en wiki to also operate here? Not sure if a bot can operate cross-language or not. But it seems to do an amazing job and is well maintained. I imagine the vandalism at the en wiki and this one are very similar. So it could likely handle things here if that is technically possible. And benefit from all the good maintenance on the programming on the en side. Maybe it is not feasible at all. Please forgive my total ignorance in these matters. Just thought I would throw it out there as a suggestion. Desertborn (talk) 19:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Short answer would be not without a very large amount of work. It has been looked at before. It isn't impossible but it would be a very large under taking that I personally don't know that we should take until such a day as we absolutely have to. -DJSasso (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
chenzw gave the me the source code for it a while back, so if he doesn't come online soon i might return from the grave. problem though is that "ChenzwBot" is hardcoded into it multiple times and it might not work running under a different username. Computer Fizz (talk) 07:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Computer Fizz: if you're willing to share it with me I can take a look - I may be able to adapt it (I'm also a bot-op on enwiki, so I have experience dealing with bots) --DannyS712 (talk) 02:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: I emailed it to you.
@FR30799386: Yeah, but it's have a history of going down before. So I think this is worth having a plan for. Computer Fizz (talk) 05:46, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking users who have been reported at VIP

Dear fellow admins: when you block a user who has been reported at VIP, please respond to the report to let the rest of us know that it has been handled. Over the last few days, I have responded to quite a few VIP reports that were already handled by someone else. It would have been nice not to have to spend time on something that had already been handled. Thanks! --Auntof6 (talk) 08:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't done purposefully. For example, I tend to block vandals after being pinged by the bot on IRC or noticing them in RC, and I don't check WP:VIP after every block I make. Vermont (talk) 09:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's understandable. Just when you know there's a report, or when you can take a second to check for one. It's just been happening a lot lately. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:20, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a problem with it. People that want to use that page use that page, those who don't don't. I pretty much never check that page because I see the vandalism happening real time in the new changes log. Anything in VIP list usually has already been handled or is stale, so I never much bother with it. Really the responding is something that I was always surprised started to happen, it used to be the only time anyone responded to them was when there was something wrong with the report. Usually they were just removed if they were done or if another admin came along and saw the report was from an hour ago or whatever they would just remove it cause it was already stale by that point. We don't need to be process wonks. Takes you less time to click on the block user link and see they were already blocked than it does for someone to respond saying they blocked them, so either situation is perfectly fine. -DJSasso (talk) 10:43, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're entitled to your opinion. I consider it a courtesy to let the users know what was done with their request. But even if we don't reply, it would still be a courtesy to the other admins to remove reports that have been handled. If you can't do that, then don't, but it would be appreciated from those who can. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it is a nice thing to do. Not debating that. I am more commenting on the being lectured to for something that doesn't matter at all. Like not even a little bit. Someone recently said that there is too much worrying about busy work here and not enough towards what the goal of this wiki is. This is a perfect example. It literally takes you less time to click the link and see the block than to read a person's comment. You don't need to come here telling everyone they aren't doing their job. -DJSasso (talk) 11:00, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was a request, not a lecture. I also block when I see active vandalizing, so I understand that. The job is to do the blocking, and that is getting done. If responding on VIP doesn't matter to you, then don't respond there, but please respect that it might matter to others. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:38, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And please respect that you seem to not realize how these requests come across. -DJSasso (talk) 12:05, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps a bot like they have at English Wikipedia would be useful? Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 11:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh they have their source available, yeah I can spin this up as a bot likely. I will take a look and modify for here. -DJSasso (talk) 12:06, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

gadget editing

Who can I ask about requested edits for gadgets like twinkle (or anything else)? Chenzw used to be handling all that but he is now inactive. Computer Fizz (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I sometimes do things with gadgets, they often don't have much changing so none of us really touch them much, it depends what you want. If you are hoping for changes to twinkle they are not likely to happen. The site is missing very large amounts of needed underlying code for twinkle to be upgraded. With as few editors as we have the current version of twinkle runs well enough. That being said if there is a specific feature from twinkle you want we can sometimes hack it in as long as it doesn't touch much of the current code. -DJSasso (talk) 10:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Djsasso: I mostly wanted UI changes rather than functionality changes. Should I post on your talk page or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Computer_Fizz (talkcontribs) 17:57, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Djsasso and Computer Fizz: If you'd like a full update, I can work on one - it'll take a while, but there are a number of new features that enwiki has that could be useful. I'd build it at https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org, so that you could test it before deployment. Thoughts? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fix ping of @Djsasso --DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. This is good cause I wanted to make it myself with userspace JS but it didnt work very well. I will post some design ideas on your talk page later today Computer Fizz (talk) 17:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have made a copy on github of the entire current twinkle structure here on sewp, and will work on it when I can. What features would people like added? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:22, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection request

Please semi-protect Greek mythology for a few days - its getting a bunch of vandalism. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Little help?

A user under the name "Keith Johnson" has been consistently vandalising the Recipe article. Can someone please do something about it? jackchango talk 19:53, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 19:58, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kouzou Iizuka

The article Kouzou Iizuka appears to be created just to defame a person that is accused of something. The article on jawiki appears to have that info deleted, making it a possible conflict of interest. What can you do with this article? Zaxxon0 (talk) 04:59, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sockpuppetry

These two users have been violating copyvios on Taíno. There's also an investigation into sockpuppetry for these two on enwiki as well (both have deleted contribs). Special:Contributions/Godoffrye12 and Special:Contributions/Hongkongrun123. Zaxxon0 (talk) 06:53, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly interesting, but I can see no other evidence to support sock puppet claims.--Peterdownunder (talk) 13:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am actually going to go out on a limb and say it is possible. They all geolocate to New York City. The IPs involved are likely mobile IPs (which would change very regularly) and a university one so likely public access. I will leave it to an admin to decide if that is enough to block on. Perhaps just watch the accounts for anything further. -DJSasso (talk) 11:30, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be possible to get an additional semi-protection of my talk page due to ongoing vandalism? I have referred to my Meta talk page for serious users. -- Tegel (talk) 19:05, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected for 6 months. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Liberian hoaxer

Please block user:Temne protestant and all delete all his creations. This user is clearly a new account of en:user:Kgyshsirga and en:user:Contributor 174o1. RHaworth (talk) 22:21, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Two of his creations remain. Kingdom of Koya, and Niger Bai. Both look reasonable; yes, they probably need work, but I can't find much of a hoax If anyone has interest/knolwedge in the area feel free to improve. --Eptalon (talk) 21:15, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection request

Can Pancake please be semi-protected? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:40, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Very few edits too it so can be dealt with by reverts and blocks. -DJSasso (talk) 11:05, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Request Needs To Be Closed

Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2019/Curro Romero (snowboarder) has been open for two weeks now and it is very obvious that the verdict is to delete. Can somebody delete the page?--Examknowtalk 23:10, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It will get closed when an admin chooses to close it. 7 days is only a minimum. -DJSasso (talk) 10:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ȷ na narty ȷ na kąt rozwarty

user:ȷ na narty ȷ na kąt rozwarty is harassing me after I got her blocked on English Wikipedia. CLCStudent (talk) 14:22, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Locally blocked and globally locked.--Cohaf (talk) 14:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Copyright/Attribution issue

It looks like Bonthefox3 (talk · contribs) is copy/pasting large amounts of text in a fairly rapid rate without attributing the material. I suspect that it is from en.wikipedia. Not sure how we handle this type of copyright issues. Nunabas (talk) 17:43, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah have been looking. Already deleted some. Most so far has just been adding infoboxes which is fine. -DJSasso (talk) 17:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What is left is just infobox adds. Some cleanup needs to be done on a few of them to fix sources and remove inappropriate templates (I grabbed a bunch but am sure I missed some) but the rest is generally ok. -DJSasso (talk) 18:14, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also to add some references/notes sections. The changes apparently added references and/or notes to articles that didn't have them before. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:25, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The infoboxes still need to be attributed in some way if they're direct copies from enwiki. Vermont (talk) 18:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not when adding to a page, they are copying straight facts, you only need attribution when there is "originality of thought". Doesn't happen with infoboxes. It is the same reason you can copy a single sentence like "City X has a population of 20 and is located in Canada" without violating copyright. -DJSasso (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, I would have thought that content-specific infoboxes meet the threshold of originality. Never mind, then. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 18:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ip dispute here, please semi protect this page, thanks. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No need. It's one person who was now warned, and will be blocked if they remove the RfD notice again. Vermont (talk) 01:24, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vermont Or another admin, they did it again, block them. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:53, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 02:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vermont or another admin IP 45.41.136.140 is now evading the block, please block them and semi protect the article --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:31, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Vermont or another admin Another one 185.191.207.202 --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:32, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2019/Markdabeast1 (model) also protect this page. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:49, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

chenzwbot has been down for the past two weeks

Can another admin look into setting up another anti-vandal bot, please? Computer Fizz (talk) 13:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why it has to be admin setting up another anti-vandal bot ? Tomybrz Bip Bip 14:08, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not really necessary, I just think some of the most dedicated people are admins because DEAL but it doesn't really matter. Although it would be ideal if it ws a rollbacker for obvious reasons. Computer Fizz (talk) 14:12, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Other admins are, but its not that big a deal, just rollback the edits you see and move on. Continuing to post over and over doesn't help. You said you had some source code. Feel free to send me what you have. I am curious what it is you have. And it would have to be an admin running a bot like this, wouldn't leave a bot this powerful to just a regular user. But there are a few of us who can. -DJSasso (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When the bot is down, we can sort by ORES score and look through ones tagged. It's less efficient but works. Vermont (talk) 17:14, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I will also bug Chenzw again in a few days. I think he is likely in a busy school period or something like that from what I can remember last time an extended outage like this happened. I don't want to pester him too much. -DJSasso (talk) 18:28, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If no one is interested it in I could try writing a bot and submitting soruce code to DJSasso. Computer Fizz (talk) 08:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stale drafts.

When looking at categories such as Category:Pages created with the Article Wizard from 2018, they are only filled with drafts that have not been changed in over a year. I am wondering if they can be left there forever or be deleted due to the web host rule of Wikipedia. Zaxxon0 (talk) 10:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We will probably need to look at them, one by one. If you see one that is clearly unfit, why don't you propose it for deletion (or make one RfD for all that you think aren't ready and haven't been touched in a long time)? --Eptalon (talk) 10:08, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I never thought about taking them to RfD, just wondering if the en:wp:NOTWEBHOST applies here. Zaxxon0 (talk) 10:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not if the articles were related to improving the wiki which most if not all would be. The better plan would be to move any that are good enough to be stubs to mainspace. Any that are really old you can put up for Rfd if you really wish too. But generally we haven't deleted user space sandboxes/drafts until the user hasn't edited on the wiki in a number of years. -DJSasso (talk) 10:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would point out, not all appear to be drafts. Some are mainspace. The category isn't just for drafts, it is for any article that was created with the article wizard which will include articles that are now mainspace articles. -DJSasso (talk) 10:54, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please semi-protect this page due to persistent vandalism. --Thegooduser Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:58, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There should instead be an edit filter that prevents new users from changing user pages. Zaxxon0 (talk) 23:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree. Computer Fizz (talk) 23:55, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've imported a filter from metawiki that should prevent non-autoconfirmed editors from making such edits. See Special:AbuseFilter/87. Thank you, Vermont (talk) 01:44, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure how I feel about this edit filter. One of the things we would want a new user to do is create a userpage for themselves that tell us about them. I think our new user guide even directs them to do so but I might be missremembering. That being said it has been triggered 51 times since it was put in place so clearly it is useful. -DJSasso (talk) 14:34, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way to make it not effect someone trying to edit their own userpage? Vermont (talk) 14:54, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I was trying to read the code for it. It might actually be doing it, but I am not sure. The syntax they use for abuse filters always confuses me for some reason. -DJSasso (talk) 14:59, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It shouldn't be affecting edits to user's own pages - page_title != user_name & means that it only matches when the page title ("Example" in User:Example) isn't the same as the user (so "Example" can edit User:Example freely) --DannyS712 (talk) 16:59, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, perfect! Vermont (talk) 17:01, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it was the fact they were calling it page_title that was throwing me off cause I was thinking of the namespace being part of the title. -DJSasso (talk) 17:04, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Djsasso: See mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules format for a full explanation of variables --DannyS712 (talk) 17:05, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update Module:Taxonbar to latest version from enwiki

Hello Sysops: Would one of you mind updating Module:Taxonbar to the last version from enwiki, please? I've noticed ours is a little out of date compared to that one. As a result, our taxonbar doesn't always list as much info as the enwiki one. For example, compare the taxonbar on Red kite with the one on en:Red kite and you will see what I mean. I believe we also need to update Module:Taxonbar/conf to the latest version from enwiki as well. It may be that there are other connected part as well, that I am missing. Desertborn (talk) 18:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at this, but be aware we won't always be in synch with what en.wiki has. I do my best to keep us up to date on a bunch of them, but sometimes we are behind on purpose for various reasons. -DJSasso (talk) 14:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal report

Even after many warnings and a 48-hour ban, 93.109.241.246 has been consistently the flag of Northern Cyprus to that of ISIL. A permanent ban may be worthwhile. jackchango talk 14:18, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked, thanks for reporting. For the future, please leave reports of vandalism at WP:VIP. Also, we dont block IP's permanently; only accounts. Thank you, Vermont (talk) 14:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note taken. My pleasure. jackchango talk 14:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

IP being suspicious

The IP: 205.189.94.12 is making odd changes related to physics. I see they're blocked for 6 months on the enwp so WP:ONESTRIKE might apply. I wonder if it's worth monitoring their behavior. Zaxxon0 (talk) 17:54, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just undid their changes on a couple of articles, where they changed dab pages to regular articles. I don't know if we've ever applied onestrike to an IP. I don't see any warnings, though: what have you seen that's problematic? --Auntof6 (talk) 18:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
They are creating pages that should probably be merged to an existing article and they removed content from pages such as Force. Zaxxon0 (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen IP's blocked as ONESTRIKE if its obviously the same user, like with xwiki spam of the same topics and articles. However, I don't think I've ever made such a block. Vermont (talk) 20:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Onestrike is really only about indef blocks (which you can't do to an IP). Anyone can be blocked with few to no warnings. There is no requirement to warn X number of times so an IP if they are clearly here to be disruptive can just be blocked if warranted. -DJSasso (talk) 10:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested imports

Hi. Can en:Alma Adams, en:Pete Aguilar, en:Colin Allred, en:Nanette Barragán, and en:Karen Bass please be imported to subpages of my user page? I'd like to simplify them and then move them to articles, since they all lack articles currently. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just copy paste them to subpages with an attribution comment in the edit summary. Imports aren't really needed for this, they are only really needed when bringing over big groups of templates. -DJSasso (talk) 11:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer to do it to ensure proper attribution, since a link doesn't show who did what unless you navigate over to enwiki - is there any problem with imports? --DannyS712 (talk) 16:11, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I can do it no problem, its no problem, but the vast majority of our articles are created this way so if everyone asked us admins to do this it would get over whelming so I am trying to nip it in the butt before it gets too commonly asked for as I have seen a big uptick in requests for it over the last couple months when we usually only get one or two requests for it a year. In saying that proper attribution only requires a link to en.wiki because the who did what is located on that page and by pointing to the en.wiki page you are pointing to the who did what. We have an page about it Wikipedia:Transwiki attribution. -DJSasso (talk) 16:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't seen that page, but it says that Admins and importers can move articles automatically with transwiki import. The transwiki import tool will take care of the attribution for you. and that Any user can request an import by an admin at the administrators' noticeboard. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:17, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said we can do it, I was just pointing out you can do it as well. Because all that happens differently that there will be one edit pulled over from en.wiki when we import a page with a long history (mediawiki chokes on trying to bring over too much history). -DJSasso (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for explaining. I'd prefer for it to be imported, but if you don't want to I understand --DannyS712 (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've been importing them as we were talking. Just takes awhile when they have a long edit history if it works at all, most people just pull over the last edit when they do it this way but you seemed to want the full history. So give me a couple more minutes as two of the pages choked on trying to bring it all over so I am retrying them. -DJSasso (talk) 16:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There I think I got them all. -DJSasso (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Few pages needs to be cleaned up after maintenance

Sorry for writing in English.

Hello, after recent maintenace that was done on your wiki, a few of pages that were previously inaccessible are accessible again. Some of those pages couldn't be fixed, because their name was taken by another page. For that reason, I've moved those pages to start with T173070. I'd like ask you to review those pages, move them to correct title or delete them, if they are no longer needed. You can find the list of pages that needs maintenance in the output of the maintenance script. If you need any help with this, please feel free to contact me. Best regards, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kamala Harris

How can you write that Kamala Harris is a 'future President '??!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.157.22.45 (talkcontribs)

That was vandalism that has been removed. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

w:en:User:Projects is basically the same as w:m:Global_block_of_Orange_ranges_(2015)

I post it here since "meta" pages are editprotected from IPs. So basically both "Wikinger" and "Projects" are equivalently grave. But only w:en:User:Projects is officially globally banned and listed at w:m:List of globally banned users. Can you warrant analogous global ban for w:en:user:Wikinger mentioned by Antandrus? It will make stewards more ruthless in hounding him. So what? When he will earn his long overdue global ban? Can you admins initiate it for him? Enough is enough! Hint: use w:m:Requests_for_comment/Global_ban_for_Avoided as template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 34.238.170.228 (talkcontribs)

Global bans are handled at meta. You will have to go there and create an account if you want to have something happen there. -DJSasso (talk) 11:23, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

new LTA instance from Neostrada: https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/index.php?user=80.49.151.113

We can't handle global bans / global locks here. You have to request on meta:SRG. Since the page is protected, make an edit request there and someone will help you edit. I note that some of the reported are already blocked on meta. --Cohaf (talk) 12:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No way. It's discussion too protected.

You can make an edit request on its talk page. We can't help you here. -DJSasso (talk) 12:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion IS Talk, already protected as said before. Can you copy it into meta:SRG on my behalf?

No. Go create an account. -DJSasso (talk) 12:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not change it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No more changes should be made to this discussion.


User

See https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Slaughter%20all%20Chinese%20Communists%20-%20Justice%20for%20all%20FaIun%20Gong%20practitioners&limit=50. Should the edits be deleted as they say that he wants to do bad things? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigos (talkcontribs)

I have, but for future reference, just email the admin mailing list or the oversighter list as opposed to posting on a board about it because that just brings attention to it. You could even just email an individual admin, but that might be slower. -DJSasso (talk) 11:21, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Random attack

Could someone please delete this revision of my talk page and report this comment on Google Groups? Nigos (talk · contribs) 22:41, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This template needs another import, a lot has changed since the last one in Jan. 2019. Zaxxon0 (talk) 00:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I updated it, but just keep in mind we do not try to keep up to the minute updated with en.wiki. In fact sometimes our infoboxes are different on purpose. I try to make sure this isn't often the case but it is sometimes so if you update a template it is always a good idea to go through fixing the pages using it. -DJSasso (talk) 10:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Taliban Hendrix MS13

I need this page unprotected. You've been harrassing an upcoming artist Taliban Hendrix MS13 https://g.co/kgs/3yNWd4 Wikipedia link Taliban Hendrix MS13 -> https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taliban_Hendrix_MS13&action=edit&redlink=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZodiacBlogger2 (talkcontribs)

Bad news pal, you're on the complete wrong project to be complaining about this since it's not yet been deleted here. But I'd advise you against creating it for the same reasons you were told elsewhere. You're likely to wind up globally locked at this point if you attempt it. Praxidicae (talk) 10:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PS for any reviewing admin this is also their account. Praxidicae (talk) 10:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What should we do with the page creations here? I think it might be best to move them to "List of [x]" and remove the templates that don't exist on simple that were copied from en. Vermont (talk) 13:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

They also need lead sections and categories. However, I'm not sure this is an admin matter. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I keep deleting, fixing, and have warned. So today I start blocking. It has been going on for over a week with various IPs. -DJSasso (talk) 13:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. If they keep doing this (and it seems they completely ignored the message I put on their talk page), we should probably just delete and block future accounts. Vermont (talk) 13:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. I warned them the last couple days with the intention of starting blocks today. So I have blocked them and deleted these pages. Some in the past I have been cleaning up and putting attribution on, some I have deleted and reimported over so they were clean. Others I have just outright deleted. But so far they haven't responded. If they continue I will be just blocking on sight and deleting if the pages are not appropriate. -DJSasso (talk) 13:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately they haven't been using the same 64 range so I can easily do a range block to get their attention better. -DJSasso (talk) 13:46, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
They continued under the IP Special:Contributions/2409:4052:2115:152F:0:0:1548:C8A4. Zaxxon0 (talk) 06:55, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, deleting and blocking. Vermont (talk) 14:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Slight change to username block template

Now Global Renamers are also allowed to make username changes apart from stewards, hence I made this change to the username block template. Since it affects admins, I will put it here for review. Feel free to revert if needed. Regards,--Cohaf (talk) 19:05, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

notice box

Would it be possible to make it so that whenever there are quick deletions requests (or vandalism reports, but that one might not be possible) left pending, all admins get a red notice at the top of the page? i notice these things can sometimes go pending for as long as several days while several admins come online. Laptop Fizz (talk) 02:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know about that, but I watch the two relevant categories so that those things show up in my watchlist. Aside from that, you're not going to get immediate action on most things all the time. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:29, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6: really? because as of this writing there are four pending quick deletion requests. and yeah i understand that a website full of volunteers doesn't have a 24/7 support team i just find it frustrating that there are admins online while these things get ignored, which makes me feel like they don't even see it since the admins are supposed to 1) have the permission to take care of them and 2) supposed to be the most dedicated and caring members of the wiki.
sorry if you feel like i'm being mean just saying my thoughts Laptop Fizz (talk) 02:41, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, really. Four QD requests is not a lot, and the admins don't check for those things every second they're online. I know I check for that stuff when I come online, take care of the things I can, then go on with my own work. And I think you're putting the admins too much on a pedestal to call them the most dedicated and caring -- we're just people doing our best, which might not always meet the expectations of the community. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:50, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would point out there are often reasons they are sitting for awhile, for example an admin might not feel that an article should be quick deleted, but don't want to deny it either, or there is some matter about the article that is being looked into before deletion. Or admin are simply giving an editor a chance to make the page better before deleting. Things aren't necessarily meant to be done immediately. -DJSasso (talk) 17:01, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

possible action?

i have noticed a trend of vandalism where year articles (like 2000) get vandalised by "(X year) like a (Y year)" being added into random parts. This seems to happen over several different weeks, and articles, by different IP addresses. could an admin possibly look into taking longterm action? Computer Fizz (talk) 05:50, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to publish changes to my sandbox

Hi all,

I've created an account page (KevRobbSIMPLE) and a sandbox in the Simple English Wikipedia, however when I actually go to publish my changes (to partially save them and to complete later) I seem to get stuck in an endless Captcha loop. It says something about new external links, but all I have are links for References, not a link in the text itself. The Page Preview looks fine with no error messages but the trouble starts when I try to publish.

Any advice or ideas?

Regards,

Kevin Robb (KevRobbSIMPLE) ka_robb@hotmail.com

(talk page stalker) @KevRobbSIMPLE: hey, i saw you were able to get your sandbox setup. that thing with the captcha sounds like a bug and might want to report that to WMF. either way, once your account is 4 days old and has made 10 edits you will be immune to the captcha. also, when signing your posts, instead of the weird way like you did with your real name and email, you can simply four tildes like this: ~~~~, and the software will automatically fill it in with your name.
do not hesistate to post here or on my talk page with anymore questions, i'm not an admin i just like being helpful and friendly especially to newer editors :) Computer Fizz (talk) 07:23, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Imports

Hi. Can the following templates please be imported from enwiki? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:05, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyS712: Done. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:43, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting deletion of User:Receptie123/common.js

Requesting G7 deletion of this page that was from my old username. Requesting here since I obviously can't edit it due to technically being "another user's" JS page. Thanks! Reception123 (talk) 13:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting admin intervention/protection on Numberblocks

In case this is checked before Simple talk, see Wikipedia:Simple talk#Numberblocks editing situation for more details. Requesting a semi-protection of that page to avoid the continuous edit warring that has been occurring for a very long time. Reception123 (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protected by Vermont. Reception123 (talk) 14:45, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

twinkle revert through contributions page

i recently tried to revert an edit by the GRP guy, from his contributions page, and it sent me here, which obviously gave me user not registered error. reverting on *diffs* works fine, but not contribution pages. anyone can fix this? Laptop Fizz (talk) 22:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another bug: Forced QD. I wanted to QD the new WP:WIKIBREAK redirect, but after the confirmation, i changed my mind about it, so i pressed cancel. But it still qd'ed the page anyway, as seen here. Computer Fizz (talk) 05:41, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Potential compromised account here

I'm cross-posting here because Nigos has written to the enwiki Administrative noticeboard about the potential compromised status of an enwiki user specific to their conduct here on simple. –MJLTalk 05:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I likely have nothing to compare against to make a check on this since they only made one edit here. At this point I would just assume it was them vandalizing here not thinking anyone on en.wiki would notice. -DJSasso (talk) 12:14, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been facing vandalism the last few days. A semi-protection would be useful. Esteban16 (talk) 20:12, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've protected it for a month. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 20:52, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of talk page

Can I please get my talk page indefinitely semi-protected here? It's a constant target for sockpuppet vandalism. Also can someone please oversight this edit? TenPoundHammer (talk) 23:56, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In general, user talk pages are not protected indefinitely, so I have applied a protection of 6 months instead (to be extended if necessary). The revision has been deleted, but I don't see oversight-worthy level of information at this point of time. Chenzw  Talk  01:26, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of "Donald Trump"

Hello. I have noticed that donald trump is a sensitive article. I think it should be extended confirmed. thanks! --Wyatt2049 (talk) 15:58, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's already semi-protected, and that's the best the sysops can do. Simple doesn't have extended confirmed protection so the article can't be 30-500 protected. Hiàn (talk) 16:22, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request protection on African Americans

The article is being targeted by proxy IP vandals. Please protect for several months. Zaxxon0 (talk) 09:30, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have protected it for a bit. Wouldn't normally protect for so little vandalism but probably a good idea on this one. -DJSasso (talk) 11:28, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of Bondi Beach

There has been recent spam and vandalism by ip. --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 15:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the case of one, a few, or a range of IPs, we usually block them instead of protecting the page. Vermont (talk) 15:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of Volcanic eruption

On Volcanic eruption, there has been several cases of vandalism and summaries saying "Fixed typo" When it is really vandalism --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 14:11, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please read what Vermont said previously, in addition, there is only 1 IP that used "fixed typo" in the edit summary so far. (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 14:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

request for uploader

i want to upload Chesty Lion image but it's not allowed on commons Computer Fizz (talk) 16:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please protect this page as it's my userspace and i may ask for that. Also sidenote, considering the last sevenposts here are requests for protection, maybe there should be a sole page? Computer Fizz (talk) 01:22, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protected. Considering the last seven posts span out over almost a month, and this sort of activity for protection requests is abnormal, I don't think a separate page is necessary. Vermont (talk) 01:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
They are also all from people who don't realize we don't generally protect pages unless absolutely necessary. -DJSasso (talk) 15:30, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Harassment

Hello, there's someone writing crap on my user page. Could you please clean up the mess and protect mu talk page ? Kind regards, --Bédévore (talk) 17:00, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Can you block 2A03:E600:100:0:0:0:0:17: vandalism and harassment on several user talk pages of WP-fr sysops. Kind regards, Jules78120 (talk) 17:02, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New users are blocked from adding references.

I can't add references to a page because I am a new user. -IOwnALaptop (talk) 21:50, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you are trying to add a link that is maybe in the spam filter, I don't think that should be the case. -DJSasso (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like you were trying to do something really weird with your reference. I have fixed it. -DJSasso (talk) 13:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I was trying to get around the filter but it didn't work. --IOwnALaptop (talk) 02:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

blocking IP as a steward action

Hi, there was a request at IRC's steward channel to block 174.100.68.142 (talk • contribs • CA • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log) by a steward since no local sysop seem to be available/online. Since he created > 20 nonsense pages in a short time and presumably would not stop, I decided to block him here, locally. I hope that's okay for you. I leave Special:Nuke/174.100.68.142 for your consideration. Regards --Schniggendiller (talk) 22:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Schniggendiller: thanks so much --DannyS712 (talk) 22:55, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a note, I requested the steward action. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 23:04, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Sandbox history

Urgent need of assistance here as someone decided to move the sandbox page to this page. The page history for the sandbox is now destroyed and someone needs to restore it. No one, even if autoconfirmed, should even move the page itself. Zaxxon0 (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Seems that we forgot to re-protect the page in 2009, when the sandbox was "moved" into an archive. Chenzw  Talk  23:00, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also there is a whopping 27 pending qd requests...anyone wants to take care of them? Computer Fizz (talk) 23:25, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Offensive username

I was gnoming (checking for vanadalism ) and I came across this very offensive username Username not displayed, but click the link, you'll see , also note their contributions, specifically their reference to "on wheels". That's an OLD reference to the ancient wiki vandal , Willie on Wheels. I'd say this user need to be blocked and that user name needs to be salted out of existence! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wekeepwhatwekill (talkcontribs) 16:42, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Already globally locked. -DJSasso (talk) 16:45, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Death threats

I am an English Wikipedia administrator and I blocked TAPCLAPgamefansince2018 there. This editor is making repetitive death threats on my talk page and should be blocked here and globally banned. Cullen328 (talk) 22:07, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Handled by an administrator, thanks! He's also being reported now. Donnola 3 (talk) 22:09, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Cullen328 (talk) 22:11, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cullen328, blocked, and I just saved an edit to m:SRG asking for a lock. I'm going to revision delete the death threats, and please feel free to ask here if there are any other problems with this user or similar that we can help with. Best regards, Vermont (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am grateful, Vermont. I have received more credible death threats in the past, but never so many in such a rapidfire fashion. Cullen328 (talk) 22:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure the edit warring on your talk page wasn't a welcome slew of pings; usually we recommend that editors not edit war with LTA's, and wait for an administrator to come and clean it up, in large part for this reason. I've left a note at Zaxxon's talk about it. Always happy to help, Vermont (talk) 22:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

edit war

its congested please stop the edit wars. recent changes is filled with reverts. HydraxWazar (talk) 22:09, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Managed, see above. Vermont (talk) 22:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Block request

Dear sysop,

do you want to block user:47.19.52.21? Reason: Vandalism. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 15:56, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. 47.19.52.21 (talk) 16:01, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You are so warned. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 16:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suspicious user

Justin86e keeps making a wide array of pointless edits, something he was blocked for on enwiki (here's AIV discussion.) Just wanted to make sure any admin is aware of this user. Someone please take care of him, it's getting clear he's not here to contribute. Zaxxon0 (talk) 02:39, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indef per WP:ONESTRIKE. I was initially intending to give him a while to see if the edits improve, but unfortunately seems to be a case of WP:CIR here, as highlighted on EN's ANI. Chenzw  Talk  07:56, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit wars in RC.

IP vandal and Danny are reverting each other. Appears to be the same person, just a different IP. hmm... Derpdart56 (talk) 02:52, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Its a WMF-banned editor - I reported each IP on metawiki, but they move so fast I haven't bothered with local block requests --DannyS712 (talk) 03:10, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the limited resources meta has requests may not be processed any sooner than they are processed here. Maybe it's better to seek local attention as well.--BRP ever 03:34, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Will do in the future --DannyS712 (talk) 03:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hide request

Dear sysop,

Can you hide all this revisions? Reason: death threats.

Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 16:22, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done by User:Macdonald-ross. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:11, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Macdonald-ross: or @Auntof6: You may want to consider hiding this one as well. It's in the same threat, just earlier in the revision history. Desertborn (talk) 17:12, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be semi-protected for a few days? LTAs are stalking now. Thanks, —Hasley (talk) 20:24, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We don't usually protect talk pages, but we might if the page owner requested it himself. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:38, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No preference either way --DannyS712 (talk) 23:32, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a semi-protect. Nothing but vandalism the past 2-3 weeks. Zaxxon0 (talk)

Semi-protected for a month by User:Vermont. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think I know how a vandal's avoiding blocks.

Over the last few weeks, a guy's been attacking the wiki. He's an IP sockpuppet user with a possible VPN in his arsenal (he's using it to avoid blocks and create new accounts). I think we should update the policies with how VPNs are handled. There's no doubt that IP vandals will use VPN software to vandalize simple. Thanks, --Derpdart56 (talk) 00:01, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

VPNs and open proxies are frequently subject to global blocks. We don't have a large enough admin team here to maintain a local block on every VPN we find and to periodically update it. Even if we did do that, they'd still find unblocked IPs to vandalize with. Best regards, Vermont (talk) 00:05, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I still think that sockpuppets shouldn't just be accounts though. Sockpuppets can use IPs to their advantage, avoiding blocks or just multiple stuff. --Derpdart56 (talk) 00:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't seem like there's anything new here - block evasion is explicitly forbidden by policy, and we do block accounts and IPs for block evasion. I should also point out that a small minority of editors may use VPNs for legitimate purposes. Chenzw  Talk  01:05, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator action please

Someone block Paharipatrika --DimensionShifter (talk) 22:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done by another admin. Vermont (talk) 11:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection request

Please semi-protect Adolf Hitler. It's being vandalized daily by multiple IP addresses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ToBeCloud (talkcontribs)

We generally would want to see more than what is happening on that page. I will keep an eye on it. -DJSasso (talk) 13:08, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Slander

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Okcopier This page is slander and needs to be removed immediately! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:1:813::65 (talk) 21:14, 12 November 2019

Why is it slander? Vermont (talk) 11:23, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Disregard, didn't see the last bit. Deleting. Vermont (talk) 11:24, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

user:Seishin

Do we have anyone looking after this? It is a school class whose grasp of English is poor. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's a bit problematic. Do we know who the teacher is? Vermont (talk) 11:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No. I don't usually deal with school projects, but I understand our usual route to the teacher is: block the site, and ask teacher to send us an e-mail. It is within our rules, because only one of the pages was worth keeping (and I have copy-edited it). Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection request

It would probably be a good idea to semi-protect T-Series due to vandalism still regularly occuring due to the PewDiePie vs T-Series subscriber war. Outofmario (talk) 15:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There hasn't been any edits since August. I think semi-protection isn't needed. -DJSasso (talk) 17:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Frequent vandalism. Nigos (talk · contribs) 12:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both only had one recent edit so don't qualify. -DJSasso (talk) 12:16, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Same with the one you just added to the section header. We rarely protect unless a page is being hit multiple times by multiple editors during the same day or so. Especially talk pages. None of these qualify. -DJSasso (talk) 12:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for page move help

Would someone mind moving Llullaico to Llullaillaco, please? That will get the page for this mountain under the proper title. I can't make the move since Llullaillaco already exists. (I've made it into a redirect already. I had created it not realizing the page already existed under the wrong name. Since then I merged my details and sources into the other page.) Desertborn (talk) 14:13, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done by Macdonald-ross. Desertborn (talk) 15:55, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements to abuse filters

I think Special:AbuseFilter/2 needs to be updated match enwiki's filter: , and should be a disallow instead of a warn+tag. This should probably save a few seconds of trying to revert one's edit that the filter could easily handle.

Some other filters from enwiki I think that could help out are (Removal of article lead) and (section blanking). Zaxxon0 (talk) 22:43, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

& new_size > 10 shouldn't this be a less-than? Computer Fizz (talk) 08:26, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We don't disallow those things because those are a very common practice in simplifying an article so it would lead to false positives. It is also why we tag & warn rather than disallow. -DJSasso (talk) 13:59, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Create multiple times. --轻语者 (talk) 00:22, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Its a notable article so it shouldn't be protected. I would even go so far as to say some of those deletions might not have been super valid. The article wasn't all that complex. -DJSasso (talk) 14:13, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Revision deletion

Please delete this page revision as it was copied from https://www.techopedia.com/definition/2793/non-volatile-memory-nvm.

Done. Chenzw  Talk  12:02, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection of Golden Age of India

I'm aware that many protection requests are declined because the vandalism is not severe enough, but I believe that the vandalism here is enough to warrant a protection, with just the recent vandalism spanning over the entire page in about 24 hours. Computer Fizz (talk) 22:01, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see the up-tick in activity, but I personally don't think it quite warrants a prot yet. Seems to be coming from the Los Angeles Unified School District IP addresses which means it may be a topic of current lesson plans there. Each burst of vandalism is typically limited in duration and I feel it's probably best handled by reverting, warning, and eventual blocking of the specific IPs. At least for now. I defer to the other sysops opinions as well. Operator873talkconnect 22:06, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There's still many edits in a short period of time with all of them being vandalism. Infact when trying to make two different cleanup edits, the article was vandalized in between them. There also seems to be absolutely no sign of it stopping. Computer Fizz (talk) 22:10, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've continued to monitor the page. Activity seems to have stopped for today. However, I do note the activity as I said over the last 2 days. I'll add this page to my list and watch it over the coming days. For now, no action. Thank you @Computer Fizz: for the heads-up. Operator873talkconnect 22:53, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protection for User talk:144.178.134.54

Semi-Protection for User talk:144.178.134.54, this user cannot be unblocked without full reason, please, semiprotect this page now. --Luis2019-2 (talk) 13:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. Please leave it to administrators to judge the merits of an unblock request. Chenzw  Talk  14:00, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Donation

Hello, I wanted to suggest that you add a button to your "donation request". Besides the "donate" and "maybe later" buttons, please add a "am donater" button. Also, you sure make it hard to contact you. It reminded me of all the head trips my brain played on me the first time I went to ask a girl out on a date. Please, please make it more direct and simple. Thank you, Blake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blake Bruner (talkcontribs) 14:05, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protection request for User talk:Weezie Holland

User talk:Weezie Holland: User was locked by stewards and is now evading that. Will ping stewards to see about getting a global block on the range they're using. Frood (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked the IP range. Best to use that page as a honeypot imo. Vermont (talk) 20:35, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Create Protection

Hi, I'd like to request that these pages be create protected as it keeps being recreated by vandals.| 1 | 2| 3 | 4 Thanks! rollingbarrels (talk) 07:52, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Pages protected and longer blocks put on the creators.--Peterdownunder (talk) 11:22, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is also now being monitored by abuse filter 91. For some reason filter changes have ceased to appear in recent changes. Chenzw  Talk  12:38, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Volleyball

The Volleyball article is inaccurate and offensive. Please remove the inaccurate and offensive part or remove the article. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volleyball — Preceding unsigned comment added by H w silver (talkcontribs) 21:38, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Be specific, please. Vague comments are no help. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

I’m not sure why I got blocked. Maybe because I was trying to edit my husbands page and didn’t know how to do it correctly? Can I get help on this?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:1:811::a4 (talkcontribs)

The IP address you used to post here doesn't look like it has ever been blocked here. Please be sure this is the Wikipedia where you were blocked (this is Simple English Wikipedia, which is separate from English Wikipedia), and give us the IP address or account name that was blocked. --Auntof6 (talk) 00:59, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi Assam?

Too many static IP, no ranges, persistent sockpuppet disruption. I think a short semi maybe needed here. Thanks ----Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:55, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protected for one week. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Annual reminder about deleting pages due to RFDs opened this year

This concerns pages at RFD being deleted under the following circumstances:

  • The RFD is created in 2019
  • The RFD consensus is to delete the page
  • The page is deleted in 2020

When this happens, the standard delete reason in the drop-down menu will show the wrong year. That is because the delete reason always shows the current year, regardless of when the RFD was created. Therefore, if the above circumstances exist, please do not use the standard delete reason. Instead, copy the page name of the RFD discussion page, and use that, enclosed in square brackets, as the delete reason.

Other things that can help this situation are:

  • Not creating RFDs during the last week of this year (if they can reasonably be avoided)
  • Promptly closing RFDs that are due to close this year
  • For RFDs opened this year but due to close next year, closing them early if that looks reasonable.

RFDs created and closed in the same calendar year are not affected. Neither are RFDs closed with a consensus of keep.

Thanks. Let me know if there are any questions. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gotta say I love how this bugs you so much. What we typically did back in the day when this happened was just create a redirect from one to the other. Avoiding all this unneeded trouble. -DJSasso (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for semi-protection of John F. Kennedy page

(Change history)

There has been constant and consistent (changing Fitzgerald to Fortnite) vandalism to the page from IP editors with no other history. There are at least two dozen instances this past week, although going back I found similar edits all the way in 2018. Whether there are a lot of independent vandals doing it, or a very committed spammer using a lot of IP addresses, semi-protection would save a lot of time that's being wasted patrolling this vandalism right now. Brantmeierz (talk) 22:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Semiprotected for a month. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

attention of steward action

Notice to all admins: the steward Matiia has recently blocked Sam8521 for 2 hours for vandalism. I note this as the user will almost certainly begin vandalizing once the two hours have finished, and it may be advisible for a local admin to re-review the block. Computer Fizz (talk) 19:24, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note - now globally locked, probably moot in terms of a local block --DannyS712 (talk) 19:29, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked it anyway because it was an LTA here who back in August had his main account unblocked. So much for that chance to be productive. -DJSasso (talk) 16:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request for fast deletion

I hereby request quick deletion of the article Sir Adragain under the speedy deletion criterion G1. Beaneater (contact me) (see my edits) 16:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need to post here when you want a quick deletion. Just put the template on the page and we will see it. -DJSasso (talk) 16:12, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protection of Talk:Adolf Anderson

Repeated abuse from multiple proxies of the same user. Semiprotecting it would make it likely stop completely, as the user has been using IP's only. rollingbarrels (talk) 00:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Bsadowski1 has now protected it. Computer Fizz (talk) 01:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

LTA: Adolf Anderseen

Hi there, i've noticed the person who had vandalised the talk pages of chess and Adolf Anderssen. I was wondering if there could be an abuse filter that could be set up that either disallows the words "adolf anderssen" by ips with no other changes that would either disallow or block those changes. Thanks rollingbarrels (talk) 00:39, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

IMO too broad, blocking / protecting may be a better option. Adolf can means quite a fair bit of things, anderssen as well. IP without any changes can be common due to dynamic IP or some productive IP editing in other places or ISP changes the range, there can be collateral as well to manage. --Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:24, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Camouflaged Mirage: No, I mean the exact string "Adolf Anderseen" not the individual words. rollingbarrels (talk) 08:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I still think an AF maybe overtly harsh and we seems to be able to manage by blocking and reverting, isn't it?--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Correct, we use more targeted methods before having to use wider ones like protecting or filters. -DJSasso (talk) 11:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]