Talk:Fascism

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Fascism is not "Right-wing". As Right wing or Conservatives usually support a small government ( At least here in the USA)While a left wing or Liberal wants a large government looking over the people


how did militarism lead to nationalism? --melissa 15:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey doesn't fascism kinda sound like racism, you like racist against my face!!! you know!!!

National socialism and fascism certainly weren't the same thing. And the Franco's regime was conservative authoritarian rather than fascist. I understand it's a "simple" version, but simplicity should be applied to the language, not to the information itself.

The regime that was truly Fascist was that of Mussolini, in Italy. Part of what made the regime was
  • Using many symbols.
  • Industry/Commerce are organised along the lines of production; people in the same industry are in a group together. That is fundamentally different from the usual modern organisation, where there are labour unions on one side, and those creating the jobs/giving the money on the other. The fascist organisation makes it nearly impossible to point out bad labour conditions, etc.
  • Focus on nationalism, coupled with the idea that the "own race" was good. The farther away from the own race people were, the worse they were off. Bottom of the line were usually black people from Africa; mid-way were Slavic people.
  • Antisemitism (sometimes)
  • Only the best survive, our race has survived, it is therefore the best. Called Social darvinism.
  • A totalitarian state (This is true for Italy, and Germany, but not for Austria or Spain)
--Eptalon 10:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Eptalon summarizes the historical definition of fascism rather well in his comment. Many people criticize any government action that they don't agree with that they think is too powerful by saying "that's fascist", but the term has a more specific meaning than that. The Japanese internment, as horrible as it was, does not really quite fit. Kansan (talk) 01:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Recent changes to this article[change source]

It's my opinion that the article should return to this state. The recent changes by Leao et. al are not examples of fascism as the government doing something bad is not the definition of fascism. Thoughts, opinions, comments? Lauryn (utc) 02:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree, especially because the edit is unsourced. It's somewhat tricky because it says "some have called it fascism", which is undoubtedly true, but it's still not a strong example. Also, there was other unexplained removal of content, such a Portugese leader as an example of fascism. In any event, without a source, I find it difficult to support keeping the material. Kansan (talk) 02:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Descriptions in Article[change source]

I perceive that a lot of the descriptions of any government in the article are skewed, for instance the United States is a constitutional democratic republic as compared to a plutocracy as described in the article. There needs to be some attention brought to how this article is simplified because while wording may be simplified in some areas, other times it is clouded over by what could be seen as confusing wording or description. This "simple" article is missing a few details to be up to Wikipedia quality. Leatherweapon (talk) 05:35, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Work needed[change source]

If someone wants to improve the article, I feel that possible areas of work are:

  • Fascist organizations (or those influenced by fascism) esp. after World War II, esp. if they have some influence in the area where they are active.
  • Developments such as the Estado Novo (Salazar) in Protugal, or in Greece.
  • US, Japan, Africa?
  • More pertinent images--Eptalon (talk) 11:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Definition Seems Very Weak[change source]

the country is considered more important than any one person, group, liberty, or provision

That could be true a lot of different kinds of governments. Communism, for example. What's the difference between a "fascist", a "despot" and a "dictator"? And we have to go all the way back to Hitler and Mussilini for fascists? Was Napoleon a fascist? Are all dictators fascists? Are all fascists dictators? The article is very confusing to me.66.25.171.16 (talk) 06:02, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Wondering if Facism differs from Nazi beliefs?[change source]

Non democratic goverments are wrong.But before Mussolini decided to join Hitlers Nazi ideas. Wasnt Facism in Italy looked upon by various nations of the World as a "Progressive"? "Making the trains run on time"(In Italy) was one slogan used by thse who admired Facism in Iyatl? Thanks! Eddson storms (talk) 20:09, 23 November 2016 (UTC)