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Hmmm...I wonder what should be done here? (*sarcasm*)...:). Cheers, Razor flame 02:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I gave it serious consideration and then decided, ... no we weren't buds after all :) Thanks for the heads up, I was making another new article fr33kman ^talk 02:13, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, no problems XD. Lol. Razor flame 02:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstars!

		The Barnstar of Diplomacy
		For all of your good work in this area, I hereby award you this barnstar!

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

For all of your hard work here, I hereby award you this barnstar! Razor flame 03:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

		The Resilient Barnstar
		For your resilience, I hereby award you this barnstar! Razor flame 03:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks dude!! :) fr33kman ^talk 03:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For all of your hard work reverting vandalism, I hereby award you this barnstar! Razor flame 03:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, four in a row! I'm blushing :) fr33kman ^talk 03:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Simple News Issue Three

Issue 4 - 2th March 2009

50,065 editors, 55,989 articles, 130,886 pages.

Announcements

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Administrators

Happy Birthday to Shapiros10 who celebrates his birthday today! Party at his place later!
The Simple English Wikipedia now has:
- 55,000 articles with the creation of 9782 Edo by Razorflame.
1,421,733 changes have been made since the Simple English Wikipedia started. This comes to 11.15 'changes per page' in the project.

User Articles

Kennedy - Article 4

Another article from Kennedy including writing about Simple News, P(V)GA's and some blatant spam!

Bluegoblin7 - Article 4

This month Bluegoblin7 revisits the current situation at the DYK process.

Yotcmdr - Article 4

A piece this month from Yotcmdr about a simplification project.

Razorflame - Article 1

In his debut article for Simple News, Razorflame writes about the recent increase in Vandalism

Shapiros10 - Article 1

Shapiros10 writes about Simple's recent turmoil for his debut article.

[Subscribe]
[Dates]
[Discussion]
[The Team]

January

NonvocalScream applied to be an administrator, but withdrew.
Razorflame applied to be an administrator, but withdrew.
Tharnton345 applied to be an administrator, but was not promoted.
Bluegoblin7 applied to be an administrator, but was not promoted.
Congratulations Peterdownunder! - For passing a request for adminship!
Congratulations Juliancolton! - For passing a request for adminship!

February

Congratulations Majorly! - For passing a request for checkusership!
Yotcmdr has resigned after a failed reconfirmation.
Kennedy applied to be a checkuser, but was not promoted.
Congratulations Chenzw! - For passing a request for bureaucratship!
Vector applied to be a checkuser, but was not promoted.
Congratulations PeterSymonds! - For passing a request for adminship!
American Eagle applied to be a bureaucrat, but was not promoted.
Razorflame applied to be an administrator, but withdrew.
Congratulations Kennedy! - For passing a request for bureaucratship!
Congratulations Fr33kman! - For passing a request for adminship!

QandA

The QandA. Every month, Kennedy interviews one of the Simple English Wikipedia's editors, asking them about themselves, and their opinions on Wikipedia. It is an exciting insight behind the anonymous face of an online username.

This weeks interviews are with Bluegoblin7 and Kennedy! Yotcmdr and BG7 took the interviews.
Click for Bluegoblin7's interview!
Click for Kennedy's interview!

The Commander's Choice

The Commanders's Choice. For every edition, Yotcmdr will be chosing articles that need creating, expanding or being attended to. Here is this edition's list:

Bastide (charta) - needs simplifying
Plane Stupid - needs creating
McFly - needs expanding
Chicken - needs expanding
Dofus - needs creating

--GoblinBot3 (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Praetor

Hello, to answer your question: a new user had created a stub on Praetor and then Praetors in quick succession. Someone who was unfamiliar with the term tagged both articles for QD as nonsense, but I recognized it as a term from the Roman Empire. I put the {{wait}} request on the Praetor talk page. An administrator also recognized the term but for some reason deleted Praetor and moved Praetors to Praetor. Thank you for signing my message. LovesMacs (talk) 22:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that is clear now. fr33kman ^talk 22:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fr33king fast!

Thank you, dear Fr33kman for the treat. Boy, are you fast at blocking vandals!-- Tdxi ang 15:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks [growls at vandals!!] :) You're welcome for the treat! fr33kman ^talk 15:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Rollback-Toliar

Thanks for the offer. :) But I like doing it the old-fashioned way. Toliar (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. Rollback does cost the project less bandwidth and db space than undo, but no problems :) fr33kman ^talk 19:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bubblycanuck has given you some cookies! Now enjoy them!

fr33kman

WP:FU

How's it coming, they image policy?-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 21:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just finishing it now. It's quite hard to say somethings contained in the criteria in simpler English. Trying to simplify words like criterion, convey, judicious, entanglement, and some of the concepts that are easy if you understand the complex words used, but difficult if you need to use words that only have one meaning and simple and unambiguous! I have a draft proposal also. I'll post that in about two hours. The non-free criteria will be up in about half and hour. Cheers fr33kman ^talk 21:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

K. I'm waiting.-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 21:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind linking me in? I'd like to help with this, I did try something a while back but it fell flat! Cheers, Gob lin 21:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had that intention, BG.-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 22:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, cheers dude! Just making sure ;) Gob lin 22:03, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My Thoughts

Looks good, I really don't see anything I need to do, maybe describe a few wrestling related items but we're on par.-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 00:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

cs

Hi, thanks for those cookies ;o) --Dalibor Bosits ^© 22:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! fr33kman ^talk 01:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For you...

		The Original Barnstar
		I, Simon^KSK, award this barnstar to Fr33kman for being a excellent vandal-reverter, a cooperative person, a good friend, and a good-faith editor. Yep, you're that good. `;)` PS: I see that you have also been handing out barnstars and cookies. Hmmmm, my barnstar must have gotten lost in the mail. `;)` Simon^KSK 00:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! No barnstars awarded yet, but soon (well as soon as I review what's available) :) fr33kman ^talk 00:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's a couple on my userpage.-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 00:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

		The Special Barnstar
		Thanks for fixing that page I created. The New Mikemoral (talk) 01:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! :) fr33kman ^talk 01:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

COuld you help me with this: I cannot think of another word that mean the same as illegitimate. Could you give me a little help? --The New Mikemoral (talk) 01:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, which article? fr33kman ^talk 01:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, should have been more specific. This one: Elizabeth Hay, Countess of Erroll --The New Mikemoral (talk) 01:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done If there is an article that explains it then wikilink to it; if there isn't, check if it is at Wiktionary and interwiki to it; if it is not there either and the word is needed then explain it inline "she was the illegitimate daughter (born to unmarried parents)" fr33kman ^talk 01:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that brief tutorial. Best regards, The New Mikemoral (talk) 01:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome too. You are such a helpful person that I will give you this:

Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

Thanks again The New Mikemoral (talk) 01:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Fr33kman. You have new messages at The New Mikemoral's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--The New Mikemoral (talk) 02:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Fr33kman. You have new messages at The New Mikemoral's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--The New Mikemoral (talk) 02:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a seWP version of the enWP's Typo Team? --The New Mikemoral (talk) 02:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, no sorry! I'll let you in on the "secret"; we only have about 45 (yes, you read correctly, forty-five) regular editors (including admins), not the 9.5 million that enWP has. Your edits here make a BIG difference to the site. Still for such a small wiki team, over the years they have managed to create over 56,000 articles (and fight the vandals we get). We tend to just go around and fix what needs to be fixed as we are moving about the site. Recently, we have had more new editors come over from other wikis. I think this is partly due to our new tough stance on vandals and editors who are banned elsewhere and move here because they only edit in English. You'll find almost everyone edits mainspace here, admins, editors everyone. Some folks, like Majorly are busy elsewhere also and that's cool. You basically have entered a local villiage where you will make a big impact. Personally I love it here! Feel free to jump right in to any discussions, don't worry about being the newbie, just dig in! A lot of people get involved in everything; editing, discussions, categories, templates, WP:AFD, vandal fighting, etc., but we also deeply respect people who just want a quiet place to build new articles. It's a very interesting wiki to work on. I like enWP too, and if you check me out you'll find I do lots there too, but over there you need to pick a niche or it's too overwhelming. My niche there is to do deletion sorting, dispute resolution and wikignoming. Here it is to do the lot (plus mopping up) :) fr33kman ^talk 02:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Think I can start some sort of Typo Team? --The New Mikemoral (talk) 02:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the best way for you to learn a little about the community here is to propose it at WP:ST. :) I'll give you a heads up now though; it probably won't go anywhere. The answer will be "we don't have enough editors, we are already busy". This answer is real, it will have very little to do with the merits of the proposal (any proposal). We recently started an MFD (misc for deletion) page, it lasted two weeks and is now being closed. That's something that is official everywhere else. Things are chaning quite quickly, however. Over the last month or so, quite a few new editors have come over from enWP. Like I said I think this is people looking for a place they can make a difference, and because we are stopping the previous disruption that was occuring at the project. Sorry if the answer seems negative; it's not a negative place to edit. Remember that enWP has 9.5 million registered usernames; we have 45 regular editors. fr33kman ^talk 03:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting unreferenced additions

Hi fr33kman. I'm brand new at seWP. On the Wednesday article, I noticed you removed my addition due to lack of citation. Is it the policy at seWP to delete unreferenced claims, rather than using {{fact}}? Thanks! Galen (talk) 03:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. I removed your edit because of the word "may" and because it was unsourced. If you were not such a new user, it might have been left; but as a new username it might also have been someone messing about and just adding stuff for the heck of it. We tend to get a lot of people adding unsourced material here and if we see it in Special:RecentChanges as it happens it very well might get reverted, if we find it days or weeks after the fact, it may get a {{fact}} tag. You need to understand something to understand seWP; we have only about 45 regular editors, and we get a lot of vandalism for a small wiki (because we are an English wiki). Welcome to Simple English Wikipedia and here's hoping you stick around! :) btw: are you a doctor or med student? Your username suggests it :) fr33kman ^talk 03:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explaining. I'm not a med student. Galen's my real name. I too hope to stick around. I teach English to ESL students. I intend to improve articles they'll reference during a given week. Beyond that I plan to transwiki articles from enWP. Galen (talk) 03:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've never known anyone called Galen. You are probably aware of the great doctor Galen (I'm a doctor); hence why I thought you might be. Please do stick around, we need good people here. I have a lot of respect for language teachers and have taught ESL in my summers when at med-school. I have a link for transwiking from enWP to here; it is here. I wrote it because many people are starting to import articles. See you around! :) fr33kman ^talk 03:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Thanks for that catch! I am usually very good when it comes to quick deletion and the rules about them, but you've taught me something new. Thanks for that! I've now proposed said article for regular deletion. Thanks again, Razor flame 19:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problems. I think we could also use PROD deletions here. It'd free up peoples time dealing with AFDs fr33kman ^talk 19:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I don't think we are big enough for PRODs yet. Cheers, Razor flame 19:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if it would be a big impact really; it'd basically just be another method of QD in that it'd leave the decision up to one admin, leaving the rest to get on with their busy wiki-lives. Basically the difference between trial by judge and trial by jury :) Still, maybe you're right fr33kman ^talk 19:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Join the Tyop Typo team.

This is an offer to join the Typo Team. --The New Mikemoral (talk) 00:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

Rollback looks like it would be very helpful :) I'm enjoying it here, reverting the vandalism is satisfying and my edits seem to be going well. Any advice on what else I can do to help around here?

Thanks! I shall be more careful about the signing messages, it does seem to be a weak point. FrancesO (talk) 17:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for the link. I think I covered all those rules okay, is there somewhere I need to request the page to be looked over before it can be taken off the cleanup list? FrancesO (talk) 18:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, just checking

Done is enough. It'll eventually be archived by some kind soul. I'd disagree that it has been cleaned up enough however. I'll edit it and give you a starting point as an example of what I mean fr33kman ^talk 18:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the pointers, so really more careful editing with keeping it simple, and more links? I shall keep this in mind, it looks like there's a lot of pages that need to be cleaned up and I'd like to help :) FrancesO (talk) 18:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, there is lots of work to do around here :) fr33kman ^talk 19:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism??

I deleted <<complex>> in Lenin article because i don't think it is very difficult to understand. Is it VANDALISM? P.S. Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia that ANYONE can change. (sorry, my english isn't so well). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.178.94.223 (talk • contribs) 17:36, March 6, 2009 (UTC)

thanks for good answer! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.178.94.223 (talk • contribs)

RE: Images

The proposals look good to me pretty much....but maybe we should wait for Goblin to chime in with his thoughts. Just one thing 30 editors? I don't think we have that many active users here.-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 21:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, we probably don't; I had actually intended to type 20 but, even that might be too many to ask. Look at all the folk that came out for checkuser votes :) What about not using a number at all, just a percentage? fr33kman ^talk 22:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably best to use a percentage.-- † CM16 ^{t _c} 03:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Thanks

Thanks for joining!

Thanks for joining the Typo Team. You are the fourth member to join. The New Mikemoral (talk) 23:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moving numbers

Want to help me with the moving of the numbers from the word to the conventions that en:WP uses (6 (number) for example)? You can move them and I'll go through and clean up any links in the article that point to the redirect? Cheers, Razor flame 03:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if you give me an example of what you want as I don't quite get what's needed. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it :) fr33kman ^talk 03:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First, delete 1 (number), 10 (number), and 2 (number). Then, move One, Ten, and Two to the three redirects you just deleted. Leave behind a redirect on the word for the number. Do that for all of the numbers. Cheers, Razor flame 03:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only delete the <number> (number) pages if they are redirects to the word. Cheers, Razor flame 03:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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