User talk:Ferien/Archives/2021/May

Sorry!

For this mistake. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 10:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker: No worries, it gets confusing when there are so many reverts going on. --Ferien (talk) 10:40, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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 Done --Ferien (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

A request on helping a new page

Hello Farien,

You recently placed a deletion request on the page I'm creating Josephs Quartzy (musician).

Can you please help me take a look at it and see if it contains required sources and it meets all the requirements please?..I think if not you can help me improve it because I'm really trying to make a great article?

Best Regards, (Wlovere (talk) 13:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC))

@Wlovere: Well, not that long ago (only a month ago) there was a request for deletion, see here. I don't think that he would have become more notable since then, and we should probably respect the consensus at the request for deletion by having the page deleted. Best regards, --Ferien (talk) 13:14, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

First I assure you to respect your decision and it's true I saw the deleted page but the editor could do was adding any link he found on his way,this entity was notable a way back and you can go and prove it all by yourself on the notability links I provided I think I made a great catch on lots of them and I gave all 17 if there's any unwanted link can be removed by you the admins. Wlovere (talk) 13:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Wlovere: At the RfD, it was decided that Josephs Quartzy was not notable. We should respect the consensus there and delete the page. Best regards, --Ferien (talk) 13:32, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I understand I'll be waiting for either responses from you and other admins(Wlovere (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC))

Just so you know I am not an admin. --Ferien (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Any idea

Do you have any idea about this: https://en.everybodywiki.com/Everybodywiki_bios_and_free_wiki_for_everybody Can I use my same user account in everybody wiki? Seems something strange from the general wiki world! Haoreima (talk) 18:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: You'd have to register an everybodywiki account and then it can be used in all the othe everybodywiki wikis. However, this is not a Wikimedia project. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:38, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Haoreima (talk) 04:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

My Test Case

Due to your redirect, my page got QD'd!!!!!!! Meanie! lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I QDed the redirects when I moved, did the actual page get deleted? lol --Ferien (talk) 19:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Just CSD the QD, BOOM! ;P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

:P --Ferien (talk) 20:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User/Special:PotsdamLamb/infobox_bewogs PotsdamLamb (talk) 06:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I see --Ferien (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Twinkle is a gadget on English Wikipedia. It can help with maintenance and patrolling. It can now be used on other wikis. You can get Twinkle on your wiki using the twinkle-starter GitHub repository.

Problems

• The content translation tool did not work for many articles for a little while. This was because of a bug. [1]
• Some things will not work for about a minute on 5 May. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This will affect the content translation tool and notifications among other things. This is because of an upgrade to avoid crashes. [2]

Changes later this week

• Reference Previews will become a default feature on a number of wikis on 5 May. This is later than planned because of some changes. You can use it without using Page Previews if you want to. The earlier plan was to have the preference to use both or none. [3][4]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Future changes

• The CSS classes .error, .warning and .success do not work for mobile readers if they have not been specifically defined on your wiki. From June they will not work for desktop readers. This can affect gadgets and templates. The classes can be defined in MediaWiki:Common.css or template styles instead. [5]

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15:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

About the page https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.O.C_Road,_Perumbavoor

I am a newcomer on Wikipedia , I would appreciate it greatly if you could elaborate a bit on redirecting issues in issues . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barktwain77 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Barktwain77: When pages are moved, a redirect is left from the old page name to the new. I requested the redirect for deletion and the article you made is not affected. Best regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

How are my contributions so far?

As stated on my user page, I am trying to gain community trust on Enwiki and I want to do the right thing. So I wonder how my contributions have been so far? Thank you! SoyokoAnis - talk 21:40, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: You have been a pretty good editor here so far, helping with creating articles and fixing typos. One thing though: you'll noticed I reverted your edit on FBG Duck as you removed the RfD. Please do not remove the RfD until it is closed. Thanks, and happy editing! --Ferien (talk) 14:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I realized I removed without rethinking. Thank you. SoyokoAnis - talk 14:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

No worries, we all make mistakes :) --Ferien (talk) 14:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

QD

LAST WARNING DO NOT PUT QD TEMPLATES ON ANY MORE Pages — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:444:201:9E70:1C28:36AE:D4E0:705A (talk • contribs) 14:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

You didn't use an actual warning template. And QD templates are supposed to go on those pages. SoyokoAnis - talk 14:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@2601:444:201:9E70:1C28:36AE:D4E0:705A: I am not sure what you're referring to. I accidentally rollbacked your edit adding a QD as mobile Wikipedia is a pain to use. Also, why did you sign as a different IP? I'm not sure what benefit this can give you... --Ferien (talk) 14:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, there's an option that makes you confirm that you want to do a rollback. In your preferences/settings, it's on the gadgets tab, Browsing gadgets section, labelled "Require confirmation before performing rollback on mobile devices". It's very helpful for working on mobile devices — guess how I know! --Auntof6 (talk) 21:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I thought I enabled that... but I didn't, lol... Thanks for reminding me! :) --Ferien (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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 Done, check your inbox :) --Ferien (talk) 19:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Apologies

I am so sorry for making the request I had meant to request another article but apparently the main page got requested. Again, I am so sorry. SoyokoAnis - talk 20:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: No problem. Attempts to delete the main page have been made before! --Ferien (talk) 20:51, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien I am going to stop tagging articles now. I don't want a repeat of Enwiki. SoyokoAnis - talk 20:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: Ok, just take it slow. You are still relatively new here. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 20:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I will, thank you. SoyokoAnis - talk 21:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar of kindness

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		You are kind, helpful, guiding, encouraging; you are the one who encourages me to do better on this wiki than English Wikipedia. Thanks. -Leo (let's talk) (my help) 21:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar! :) --Ferien (talk) 05:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

New notification

Have you received the automatic notification that we will not be able to edit during 6:00 to 6:15 for technical problem? I saw that in the top of my screen. Haoreima (talk) 06:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Yes, I saw it but I was able to edit and then the notification had gone by about 6:10am UTC. I'm pretty sure the maintenance is done. --Ferien (talk) 06:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Pings

About this edit, pings don't works unless you save a timestamp in the same edit. Since you kept the old timestamp, I don't think Haoreima would have gotten the notification. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I always forget that... I think Haoreima has seen it though as he has thanked me for the response. --Ferien (talk) 15:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

A request

Hello Pal! en:Puya Meithaba ( Burning of Puya ) (equivalent of simple:Puya Mei Thaba) is about to get deleted. It has actually broken some wiki guidelines, it's created by User:Luwanglinux. Could you please advise him in good faith what's right and what's wrong? You can even perform tps in the discussion page of en:Talk:History of Manipur. Actually, good references are available in this very simple English equivalent article. Haoreima (talk) 08:24, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Haoreima: You might not know, but "tps" stands for "talk page stalker". It refers to times when someone leaves a message on a user talk page, but a different person answers it. It's what I'm doing right now; you left a message on Ferien's talk page, but I am making a comment on it even though you didn't ask me and this isn't my talk page. Using the {{tps}} template is a way of saying that I know I'm possibly being a little rude by responding to a message that was left for someone else on someone else's talk page. Therefore, tps doesn't apply to article talk pages (like the one you mentioned above), because anyone is entitled to comment on those. --Auntof6 (talk) 11:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Learning the fact for the first time from you, thank you, Auntof6! Well, there's an active discussion going on. In fact, a war is being fought in the article's talk page. And I wish a peaceful end through understanding. Haoreima (talk) 12:22, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: Luwanglinux seems to have already been advised and unfortunately, he has been blocked over there for a week for edit warring. And, as I don't really know what was going on over there, it probably isn't best for me to step in. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 15:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: And besides what Ferien said, since you are blocked on enwiki, you aren't supposed to be asking people to do things there. Ferien could get into trouble for doing things there for you. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:51, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Haoreima Thank for your concern but its ok I will follow wikipedia procedure and do whatever is good for that article after one week , I am able to read Ray Sohini journal about Manipur through jstor too Luwanglinux (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien: Apologies to you if my plan turns out to be a trouble for your user account's reputation as Auntof6 said. But, my real intention is just for the betterment of wikipedia articles and wikipedia users. Haoreima (talk) 03:06, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for correcting my mistake on my english wikipedia user page, since extended confirmed user are able to move page I thought it appropriate, I feel too shame after learning about it just today.Luwanglinux (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: I just noticed it when I was having a look at the situation above, although I wasn't going to take any action on that... No problem. --Ferien (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

That situation was no good, its ok Luwanglinux (talk) 18:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

AN

You are the topic of an Administrative Action. You may join the discussion by clicking here! Not participating can cause you to be blocked for your actions. PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:11, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Aww, thanks :) --Ferien (talk) 07:17, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

You’re welcome! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PotsdamLamb (talk • contribs) 07:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh hey

User:PotsdamLamb#/media/File:PotsdamLambs_new_kitty.jpg PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Aww, very cute. :)

There's a cat who keeps wandering around my neighbourhood very casually and is just begging for attention the entire time. --Ferien (talk) 15:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of The Speedy Deletion Tag Request

Hello Ferien, I respect your decision entirely but please do not delete this article as I am an online freelancer and I am being paid to write this article on Simple Wikipedia. I hope you understand me and thank you for your help in advance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6440:4002:0:0:0:0:2F6A (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@2605:6440:4002:0:0:0:0:2F6A: so you are making me think that requesting the article for deletion definitely was a good idea. See conflicts of interest. If you have one, it's best not to edit the article. The article sounds really promotional, which is why I requested it for deletion. --Ferien (talk) 16:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ferien (talk), I tried my best to keep the article neutral by excluding all the superlative adjectives, adding as much neutral words as possible and only keeping facts which I could verify. I also did not add any boasting words such as 'best of the best' and etc to keep the tone formative. It would be appreciated by me if you could please delete the speedy deletion request. Thank you for understanding my point of view.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6440:3002:0:0:0:2:14B (talk • contribs) 17:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@2605:6440:3002:0:0:0:2:14B: However, the subject is also not notable for Wikipedia and does not claim to be. So there should not be an article on this subject. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@192.141.42.242: pinging you as you seem to be the same person. --Ferien (talk) 18:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

QD declined

Hi, Ferien. I had to decline that QD. I'm not saying he meets any notability guideline, but QD can't be used if there is a claim of notability (in this case, winning an award). Feel free to go to RFD with it. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't notice that he claimed to have won an award. I'll go to RfD with it. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 14:27, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

That IP user talk page

Please stop humoring that IP user by continuing to revert their edits. It only makes them continue what they're doing. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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 Doing... --Ferien (talk) 19:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 19:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

userpage feedback

Hello, what do you think of the pink colour on my userpage? I don't want it to be too bright, also I want to make my user talk page teal, soon. Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:05, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

@つがる: I think it's fine, I can read it well :) --Ferien (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Pink and Mint/Teal are actually my favourite colors IRL. However, the userpage title displays differently on each browser when I visit it, IDK why. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-19

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Sarah E. Goode Please be bold and help translate this article! Sarah Elisabeth Goode (1850 – April 8, 1905) was an inventor. She was the second known African-American woman to receive the MOST, a United States patent, which she received in 1885. The first known African-American woman to receive a patent was Judy W. Reed on September 23, 1884, but Reed only signed her patent with her mark (an X) and not her signature. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 May. It will be on all wikis from 13 May (calendar).

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• You can see what participants plan to work on at the online Wikimedia hackathon 22–23 May.

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15:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey there!

Hey there! I decided to WP:DENY removing the vandalism that is on WP:VIP as edit warring isn’t the best idea. CoolGuyRonnie Talk 16:25, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

One of the key parts of WP:DENY is Do not talk about them on your user page but I just simplify that to Do not talk about them unless it's really important. --Ferien (talk) 16:54, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

IPs

I am not sure if they are one in the same, but I have been reverting those too with a different IP and they just blanked their talk page. I reported mine to VIP. PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Doesn’t matter now. The IP has been blocked :) CoolGuyRonnie Talk 21:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

and your account has been too (locked)... --Ferien (talk) 18:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

IPv6 ranges

If 1234:5678:9012:ab:cd:ef:1918:1899 and 1234:5678:9012:ab:cd:ef:1918:ace8 both vandalise, an admin blocks 1234:5678:9012:ab:cd:ef:1918::/112. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

An admin can block that range but I think in most cases it is appropriate for the /64 to be blocked, per w:WP:/64. --Ferien (talk) 17:24, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Logging in problems

I have an Apple Watch Series 3 38mm, running watchOS 7. I could make changes anonymously, but couldn't log in, mostly due to small 768 MB RAM. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 15:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@79.67.17.238: Hmm, editing must be interesting on that. --Ferien (talk) 15:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien My watch is slow to render pie charts on page statistics. I tested, and frame rates for rendering pie charts is 1 fps. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 15:47, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Wut, you can edit on an apple watch? Guess I'll somehow get 100% on all my tests now :P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:17, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Loading two Wikipedia tabs (recent changes and editing this talk page) uses about 850MB of RAM. So 768MB should just about load a webpage. And also, I'd guess you'd be using the mobile version which is lighter than the desktop version I believe. --Ferien (talk) 20:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Ferien, IP cannot be pinged! --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@つがる: I always ping them anyway just so they know it's for them. And also because I didn't actually wasn't aware of that :P --Ferien (talk) 20:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Then is there a 'Mobile Version' Grade 12 so it can be easier lol --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

My watch has a S3 dual-core system-on-a-chip (I think 900 MHz), which is slow. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

VandalWarner

How does VandalWarner work? I’m new here but I don’t know how it works. C4Bomb2024 Talk 13:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

@C4Bomb2024: I used to try using it but it doesn't currently work. The buttons appear but it doesn't work. Try using Twinkle instead. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 13:43, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, but I’m not autoconfirmed. I’ll use that instead. C4Bomb2024 Talk 13:46, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

When you're autoconfirmed you can use Twinkle but for the meantime, manual undoing and templating should work just fine. --Ferien (talk) 13:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah. C4Bomb2024 Talk 15:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

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Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 21:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

again --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 21:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-20

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Zuzu Angel Please be bold and help translate this article! Zuleika Angel Jones (June 5, 1921 – April 14, 1976), better known as Zuzu Angel, was a Brazilian-American fashion designer, who became famous for opposing the Brazilian military dictatorship after the forced disappearance of her son, Stuart. She was also the mother of journalist Hildegard Angel. In 2014, the National Truth Commission created to gather and review information about crimes committed during the years of the CIA and U.S. government-backed Brazilian military dictatorship, a former agent of the military repression named Cláudio Antônio Guerra, confirmed the participation of agents of the security apparatus in the death of Angel. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-20

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Recent changes

• There is a new toolbar in the Reply tool. It works in the wikitext source mode. You can enable it in your preferences. [6] [7] [8]
• Wikimedia mailing lists are being moved to Mailman 3. This is a newer version. For the character encoding to work it will change from UTF-8 to utf8mb3. [9][10]
• An earlier issue of Tech News said that the citoid API would handle dates with a month but no days in a new way. This has been reverted for now. There needs to be more discussion of how it affects different wikis first. [11]

Changes later this week

• MediaWiki:Pageimages-blacklist will be renamed MediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist. The list can be copied to the new name. It will happen on 19 May for some wikis and 20 May for some wikis. Most wikis don't use it. It lists images that should never be used as thumbnails for articles. [12]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 May. It will be on all wikis from 20 May (calendar).

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13:49, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

A lot of times she is not adding the warning but looks like we both did it this time. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

np, I was just reverting the edit conflict. I am just checking recent changes here every now and then to check what's going on whilst I do some things on en. :) --Ferien (talk) 16:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

lol fine I am not needed then :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:26, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

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79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The amount of RAM I have right now (I think about 8GB) seems to be doing fine as I've got quite a few things open as well as several Wikipedia tabs! --Ferien (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I have 64GB of RAM :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien: I have 768 MB RAM. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 16:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I have an i7 Laptop with 24GB DDR4 (2400 GHZ?) RAM DDR4 --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

PotsdamLamb What are you doing to need that much RAM lol --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:23, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I’m also a gamer and I used to test various software so I created virtual machines to test on so it’s not on my main system. I can’t really tag you because your username is in characters I can’t type! Lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 03:17, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

That explains why you need so much RAM...

For pinging: If you just go to Tsugaru's user page then copy つがる, you should be able to ping. --Ferien (talk) 05:59, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

PotsdamLamb Yea, I run Virtual Machines too, my Host OS is Linux Mint 20.1, I use VirtualBox to run Windows 10 Home. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Vandal talk pages

I don't think I have any policy or guideline to base this on, other then maybe WP:DENY, but it might save you some headache to just not revert already blocked ips vandalizing their own talk pages. An admin will most likely eventually revoke talk page access, and they're not harming any content. Reverting them might just egg them on. Im not saying to stop outright, just something to think about. Might be better to just let them run out of steam on their own page until an admin gets to them. --Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 19:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, apologies, I stopped reverting a few minutes ago. With this editor I generally revert a few times and then stop. Sometimes they revert as soon as I revert, sometimes they don't revert at all. --Ferien (talk) 20:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Please see my response at User talk:Eptalon/Archive 20#Urgent. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Still, I think WP:DENY applies. They are trying to disrupt the project and have been for many years. --Ferien (talk) 20:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes which is why they only got a final warning so it was in place for me to ask for the block :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

But just so you know for future, this editor is WMF-banned. No warnings are required; you can ask stewards for a global lock/block right away when seeing this particular editor. --Ferien (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

FYI - Eptalon did revoke TP access; also Ferien, the IP did not create any content. He just vandalized a crapload of pages that I was able to revert all of them I believe including others talk pages. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Not a move

It was a copy and paste lol PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I was copy and pasting/moving it above the discussion line, and it's easier to type "move" then "copy and paste" in the edit summary --Ferien (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I need to look and see what you did then. I thought I moved it to the right place. PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:04, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

It wasn't anything you did. See here, I was moving the discussion to above the <!--Please add any discussion above this comment.--> line. :) --Ferien (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021

Hello! Thank you for creating Category:Establishments in Austria by year. However, we normally need at least three pages in a category before it is created. Because categories are a way to group together similar articles, there is no need to create a new category for just one or two articles. If you think there might be more pages to add to the new category, please add them now. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 04:17, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Oops, forgot about that for subcategories! --Ferien (talk) 05:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Lights and freedom

Why is Lights and freedom blocked? It’s kinda sad :( C4Bomb2024 Talk 15:12, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

It is annoying when we lose a constructive contributor, but they were blocked for socking which they have not denied. I think they know that this is not allowed. --Ferien (talk) 15:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What do you mean "know that this is not allowed"? Darubrub (Let me know) 15:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Lights and freedom reverted vandalism on a pretty regular basis and they must have seen the WP:SOCK page at least once. I meant they knew that this is not allowed not know. --Ferien (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

RIP Lights and freedom (19 January 2020 - 20 May 2021) C4Bomb2024 Talk 16:22, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What happens to their Wikiproject now? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 20:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I assume it will just continue as normal. I don't think there's any need to move it, the WikiProject can continue. WikiProjects are about collaboration and there don't have to be "leaders". --Ferien2 (talk) 20:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's the same too. My Wikiprojects, I allow anyone to change what they want. :-) Though I've seen a Wikiproject where they ask you to not touch some things, would that cause a problem, but depending on the situation, I don't think it does in that particular situation I've seen --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 22:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the wikiproject can continue on without Lights and freedom "leading". We can continue it there like we continue relatively active wikiprojects where the creator has retired :) --Ferien2 (talk) 08:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Mail

Hello, Ferien. You have a new email! Please check it at your convenience.
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:38, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 20:41, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Yo

Hello, Ferien. You have a new email! Please check it at your convenience.
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

@PotsdamLamb: Sorry there will be a bit of a delay with this as I can’t currently access my mail. --Ferien2 (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

No worries! PotsdamLamb (talk) 18:13, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Ferien (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Archives

I think your archives are broken! PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:46, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: They seem to work but I think they are getting rather big. Maybe I will reconsider my archive system some time again at the end of the year. --Ferien2 (talk) 19:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

If you look at my page, User_talk:PotsdamLamb it may help you as I noticed you are missing some coding you should have there. :) --PotsdamLamb (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, as in the automatic archiving. I have disabled that on purpose, I archive it all at the end of the month. --Ferien2 (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Auto is better and you can set it to a different number, I have mine at three. Your page says three as well :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I prefer archiving it at the end of the month though, I like my talk page having several topics there. I feel like it is more inviting for someone leaving a message. Thanks for trying to help though :) --Ferien2 (talk) 21:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Chenzw

Hi there. I don’t know why Chenzw isn’t editing here now for like 2 months. C4Bomb2024 Talk 19:36, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

@C4Bomb2024: As another example, Lofty abyss hasn't edited in nearly 3.

It's perfectly normal and acceptable for someone, even an administrator, to stop editing here for a couple of months or more. After all, everyone here is a volunteer. No-one is under any obligation to edit here. --Ferien (talk) 19:46, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation of the week: 2021-21

The winner this Translation of the week is en:Blue space Please be bold and help translate this article! Blue space in urban planning and design comprises all the areas dominated by surface waterbodies or watercourses. In conjunction with greenspace (parks, gardens, etc. specifically: urban open space), it may help in reducing the risks of heat-related illness from high urban temperatures. Substantial urban waterbodies naturally exist as integral features of the geography of many cities because of their historical geopolitical significance. (Please update the interwiki links on Wikidata of your language version of the article after each week's translation is finished so that all languages are linked to each other.) About · Nominate/Review · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery 01:31, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Vaccine

Hello pal! Are you vaccinated for COVID-19? For me, I have done today. It's too late but I am lucky because in my country, the government is unable to provide it sufficiently to public. Many lives from my locality are claimed, so suddenly worried about you. Haoreima (talk) 15:45, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I am under 18 so I am not, at least currently, being vaccinated for COVID-19. However, most of the British population have now received a vaccination, I believe over 60,000,000 now. --Ferien (talk) 15:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

How old are you? I am 19. Haoreima (talk) 15:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Haoreima: I don't really see a need to reveal my age on Wikipedia. I am here to build an encyclopedia after all and so I prefer giving as little information about myself as possible here.

However, regarding the vaccine, it looks like under 18s may be able to get a vaccine sometime late this year if this research suggests that it is safe for them to have the jab: https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/explained/will-children-get-a-covid-19-vaccine/ --Ferien (talk) 16:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-21

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Recent changes

• The Wikimedia movement has been using IRC on a network called Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have decided to move to the new Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia discussions about this.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 May. It will be on all wikis from 27 May (calendar).

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warnings

How come we're not sending warnings to long-term abusers on Simple English Wikipedia? Angela Kate Maureen 19:45, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

@Tropical Storm Angela: Mainly because I find it makes things worse and also this particular editor is WMF-banned and they have been warned multiple times over the 15 years since he created his account. If you want the LTA page it's w:WP:LTA/GRP. --Ferien (talk) 19:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I almost wonder if it would be useful to have a template saying something like "this IP is a long-term abuser; no warnings are needed, and may be blocked on sight" -- or equivalent. That way people unfamiliar with the person wouldn't waste time leaving warnings. Optional parameters in the template would include putting a link to an LTA page. Antandrus (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I might make it in userspace sometime as I am having to explain to quite a few people. --Ferien (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Another possibility of course is just writing a single line -- "This is w:WP:LTA/GRP; block this IP asap". Or something. But a template would save five seconds I suppose. Antandrus (talk) 19:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I've just made one: User:Ferien/Warnings/Banned. Feel free to change it if you want. I don't have much knowledge on templates but I think this is ok. --Ferien (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

How can editors tell whether or not a Simple English Wikipedia editor is a longterm abuser? Angela Kate Maureen 20:15, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Behaviour is the main way you can tell. I'll send you some diffs via email of this particular LTA. And there aren't many long-term abusers around simple, only a few. --Ferien (talk) 20:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Assistance

Hello Ferien, I saw you assisted with a vandalism problem on Verdis. There is an angry user requesting removal of the article on Talk:Verdis, can this possibly be responded to? I am still new to Wikipedia. From the research I've looked at, the user is continuously getting in conflicts on English Wikipedia and Dutch Wikipedia, and is largely biased. He claims rtl.hr and telex.hu are not large enough sources. What's your thoughts? BrodieMan201 (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello @BrodieMan201: There was a consensus on the English Wikipedia to delete the article, see here and so we could start an RfD (Request for Deletion) if that user thinks that the "Free Republic of Verdis" doesn't deserve an article here. --Ferien (talk) 05:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

The consensus was resolved to switch Verdis back to a redirect on English Wikipedia. This user seems to continuously be angry and causing conflicts claiming that the micronation is a hoax since it was founded by a kid, but micronations aren't meant to be taken seriously anyway. 180.150.39.49 (talk) 06:08, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Shouldn't be removed just because of an old man's bias and disagreement about a state's views. BrodieMan201 (talk) 06:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@BrodieMan201: Actually, the page is currently deleted with no redirect, and protected with create protected (only admins can create it). There has obviously been a lot of recreations despite the consensus. --Ferien (talk) 06:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

I just took a look and from what I can see in logs, the redirect was accepted before the most recent deletion but was deleted upon the page's creators block for something. BrodieMan201 (talk) 06:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@BrodieMan201: The most recent XFD's consensus was to delete. I have asked The Banner whether an RfD here would be appropriate. --Ferien (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Dude

I was just playing with the templates. Again, give me a freaking chance to reverse it and stop jumping on top of everything the moment I do it. It’s starting to get annoying. PotsdamLamb (talk) 07:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Playing with the templates is doing an editing test and tests shouldn't be made on recently active IPs who are blocked. It still gives them the notification on their talk page and it also may confuse them that testing is done on their talk page. For testing, as you know, you can use the sandbox or warn an IP that cannot edit, like the one on the VIP header. You don't need to do it on an active IP address, that's just testing editing which as you know, should not be outside of the sandbox. --Ferien (talk) 10:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikibreak header

"28 April to 4 May" did you mean "28 May to 4 June"? Darubrub (Let me know) 14:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh, oops lol, I was too tired. Thanks! --Ferien (talk) 14:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the warm welcome! I will have to get used to the absence of RedWarn, but with Twinkle, I will manage! Hockeycatcat (talk) 05:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hockeycatcat: No problem for the welcome, I have seen you around on enwiki. Some users have copied RedWarn from enwiki (as an example, see User:JJPMaster/RedWarn.js) However, I find Twinkle is all that's really necessary over here. Kind regards, --Ferien (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

WP:Deny

While I do understand the concept, it has been stated over and over that warnings need to be present for an admin to take action. This is a direct quote for an ip user who was vandalizing Canada

“Warned user. Please leave warnings before reporting here. Auntof6 (talk) 05:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)”

Not everyone knows all the tell tell signs of these people but generally their talk pages should not be cleared out especially with warnings as when/if they come back, we have the instant reference and do not need to shuffle through their contribution history to see what happened. I AGF roll backed your blanking of the IP talk page. Thanks! PotsdamLamb (talk) 10:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: When someone says "I like vandalism!" or "I want a block" on many talk pages, it's quite obvious that they are looking to be blocked or to cause harm. This has been going on for over 12 years. The warnings are designed to stop the user, not to become a way of counting reverts. Also this user is banned by the community and they're evading their ban so they can be blocked without warning.

Warnings are not required anyway, they are just preferred. See this part of the Wikipedia:Blocks and bans policy: However, administrators can block a user at any time if they are abusing Wikipedia on purpose or going against other policies. Going on user talk pages and saying "I like vandalism!" is clearly abusing Wikipedia on purpose.

And finally, I know that looking at user talk warnings is easier than looking a little at users' contributions but administrators should be checking reports pretty thoroughly before taking action. Regards, --Ferien (talk) 14:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

I am aware of all of that, but I am looking at from the user standpoint, not the admin standpoint or what admins should and should not be doing. Since IPs will be eventually unblocked (for the most part) the warnings should stay on the page, so that way there is the history. Now if the user wipes the page, that is a different story, as they don't get pages anyways. This is my opinion. PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: Sure, I understand if the user, instead of the IP, wipes the page then it is a little different. Although, the IPs don't need to even see those old warnings for the history as it is designed for the person vandalising not everyone on the IP. On enwiki, editors sometimes go through and replace ancient talk page messages with {{OW}} as they don't need to be seen anymore. I just blank them as there's no need for the warnings to be there and it is just giving the vandal the attention they want. I should probably replace them with {{OW}} instead, for transparency/history... Regards, --Ferien (talk) 15:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

I think that would work better. :) BTW, you added that box to the RfD. I created the minimum necessary to tag the users as we didn't have them. :) PotsdamLamb (talk) 15:48, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: I added it because it had got three keep !votes with basically no reason. A keep !vote with explanation would be much more helpful than a keep !vote with none... Regards, :) --Ferien (talk) 16:10, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Yuppers PotsdamLamb (talk) 16:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Empty cleanup categories

Just thought I would let you know those pages QD themselves when they are emptied. You don't need to put a tag on them. -Djsasso (talk) 17:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@Djsasso: Actually, they don't seem to go into quick deletion requests automatically even though they are empty, although it may be an issue on my side. --Ferien (talk) 17:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

It is almost definitely caching on your side. Though it could also be the job queue hadn't put them there yet. I regularly delete them from the cat so I know they usually work. -Djsasso (talk) 17:07, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Oh ok, I was just noticing categories from a few years ago that had the deletion request on them still. Although, it could be the case that the categories were cleared relatively recently. Putting the QD tag seems to put them in CAT:QD immediately after but the automatic one doesn't, at least for me anyway... --Ferien (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-22

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Problems

• There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday. [13]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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