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Smile

Hello Peterdownunder, Belinda has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Good work on Dan Kelly and the other Australia-related articles! :) I still remember when I first came to wikipedia and you were so very kind to me; in fact, I think you were one of the first editors I ever met and respected in wikipedia. I hope this smile cheers your day up (that is, if you aren't cheerful already, as you usually are)! With heartfelt love, Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 11:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Quick Question

At Wikipedia:Cyberbullying#It happens here, it says that "Some bullying, while not identifying an individual to the world, would certainly be seen by the victim who know that they were the target. This includes the 'John is fat' type comment". Do you really think that the targeted individual will somehow find his/her way onto this Wikipedia and think, "Hey, that's about me! Boo hoo!"? Most disparaging comments never reach the victim's ears. In the case of this Wikipedia, these comments are often from young children doing a drive-by. Unless they target registered users, which is blockable through WP:DISRUPT, there's no need for this policy, as everything is accounted for. Goodvac (talk) 01:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Much of the vandalism that happens is done from classrooms, and that is often verifiable through tracing IP addresses back to schools. There is a strong possibility of a student writing something disparaging, and showing other students, including the targets. It is imperative that all such things be erased from view. Kansan (talk) 01:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Good question - in some cases they probably are "drive-by". A person who thinks "my name is John, this says something mean about John, therefore it is about me" is probably going to have a fairly tough life no matter what we do. You are quite correct that it almost never is targeted at registered users, and we do have good policy in place for when that happens. In my experience over that last couple of years, I think that the sort of comments I am concerned about are not drive-by. As Kansan says, they are often school IP addresses, and they are very often added to the sort of topics that students would be researching. I would strongly suspect that these are posted in class, or from a school library, and will be designed not just to harrass the victim, but also to get approval from the larger audience. The research on cyberbullying is overwhelming that this is a major problem, and that we need to recognise it and act on it. The main purpose of the policy is to encourage users, especially administrators, to take quick action. A quick revert, and a warning are powerful tools, it shows the bully that their actions have been seen. An immediate block, only needs to be short, an hour or two, will for a second offence should stop it effectively. If the problem was to continue, then we already have policies in place to deal with them. In a nutshell, it is a real problem, we need to act firmly and quickly to keep it under control. --Peterdownunder (talk) 01:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Cyberbullying template

In the cyberbullying guideline you wrote, there is a mention to a level 4 type cyberbullying user warning template that would have to be created. Would it be appropriate to go ahead and add it to Twinkle once created? Kansan (talk) 23:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

I think we need a cyberbullying warning, rather than a general vandalism warning. I use twinkle so it would be great to be able to include it. Templates are out of my area of understanding, so please feel free to make one. --Peterdownunder (talk) 23:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Back at the keyboard

I am back after a nice week away in a very remote corner of Oz. Will post some new photos soon on Commons.--Peterdownunder (talk) 06:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Welcome back Peter! :) Nifky^{^} 06:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Sorry for the late welcome: but your return is really very pleasing! :) Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 08:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Simple News: Issue 25

Grunny (talk) 11:38, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

RD

Hey Peterdownunder. Just a short note: You don't need to RevisionDelete deleted content because it's hidden from non-admins already. --Bsadowski1 22:42, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Peterdownunder is awarded this barnstar for doing all the little tihngs that keep the Wiki in good shape. Kansan (talk) 20:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

On copying..

Do you know if we have a unified policy on whether, when copying from the English Wikipedia, the template is absolutely necessary? The other day, I told a new user that it was, and another administrator told me that it was potentially confusing to use it here, and I thought we should make sure we all are on the same page. The discussion was here: Wikipedia:Simple_talk#Copying_from_en.wikipedia. Kansan (talk) 22:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

We have this guideline: Wikipedia:How to copy from another Wikipedia. The important thing is that the original article is given credit. You can do it by adding it to the change summary which some editors like, or adding it to the talk page which I like, or both. I put a note in the change summary "Based on enwiki" and then the full details on the talk page with the template. Peterdownunder (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Thaaaank Youuu

Hey Hey, thank you for the barn star ;) Made me smile LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 22:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Dearest and treasured Peterdownunder,

I've noticed nobody wrote you a Merry Christmas greeting yet. I thought I'd like to give you one personally, as you are one of the most special and beloved editors I think of in this project, working unseen but importantly. Firstly, I'd like to give you a mug of Hot Chocolate,

Belinda has given you some Hot chocolate with plump marshmallows and foamy cream! ♥ Drink it up!

And then here's one special poem I made for you! :) It's very pitiful, I know, and silly, for I assure you I'm quite horrible at writing poems—but I hope you'll feel the great respect I have for you nonetheless.

For the love of Pete

The sweetest smell, I do declare,
Is fragrance from the soil
That comes from Peterdownunder,
Who's sow'd rich facts with toil.

His quiet, unseen editing
Is truly precious to us;
And how he finds those healthy refs
Inspire envy (don't cuss ).

Altho' my rhyming does sound bad,
And I have little to say,
The valued work of Pet'r does seem
Quite countless – day by day!

Thank you, Peterdownunder, for your lovely work here! ♥ingly, Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 04:33, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

In return

I created one of your articles in User:Peterdownunder/Australia. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 21:08, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For adding citations, especially to 2010 and 2010 deaths The Three Headed Knight (talk) 07:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar.

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		To Peterdownunder, for doing great work around the wiki and still being able to find time to make everybody's day a little brighter. Thanks! Gordonrox24 | Talk 06:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the little red book.--The Three Headed Knight (talk) 05:36, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Help!

Could you be a good dear and fix the infobox on Vitoria-Gasteiz that I carried from enwiki please? Mr. Berty ^talk~_stalk 09:12, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Clean Delete Reasons.

Hey Peter. Just wondering, do you have the Clean Delete Reasons script turned on? Right now your deletes are showing the content of the pages you are deleting. Thanks!--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 21:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. It is turned on so I don't know what is happening, although since starting to use Vector nothing works properly. I will resave and reboot to see if that makes it work. Peterdownunder (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

That did not make any difference. Other suggestions? Peterdownunder (talk) 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm yeah if clean delete is turned on I don't really know why it would continue to not work... Strange. I wonder if anybody else has had this issue?--Gordonrox24 | ^Talk 21:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't work for me either; I have it enabled but blank the box by hand. sonia♫ 22:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

It seems to be incompatible with Vector (which is why I switched back to Monobook as soon as Vector was rolled out, many scripts were having problems), so unfortunately, unless someone knows how it could be fixed, the only solution is to use Monobook (or other skins which work with it). -- Mentifisto 22:34, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Just created Special:MyPage/vector.js with this. It should work then (hopefully). -Barras (talk) 22:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Added script to my vector.js page, and refreshed, but it didn't work. Hmm. Peterdownunder (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

.Purged and all done? Then it is weird. It works for me on testwiki and sonia told me that it works for her. -Barras (talk) 11:26, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll give it a try again...thanks, 11:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Still not working. Peterdownunder (talk) 11:43, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Have you unchecked the clean delete reason in you preferences? If you use firefox, please go the vector.js and use Ctrl+F5 and Ctrl+R. Well, as said, it works for me on test. If this doesn't work, I'm going to try it later here. -Barras (talk) 11:45, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Have tried it checked and unchecked, crtl+F5, ctrl+R, in all combinations. I am using Twinkle - is this a problem? Peterdownunder (talk) 12:12, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

That could be a problem. I haven't tested it with Twinkle. I just did it the normal way. -Barras (talk) 16:20, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Other than if its something that needs to be surpressed its probably not that big a deal anyways since the beginning of the edit summary still says why you deleted it. -DJSasso (talk) 16:40, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Special Barnstar
		For taking the initiative of creating the [[Category:Canadian military]], which is going to be really helpful for readers and other "changers", and for me to keep track of the articles I create. [CharlieEchoTango] 08:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey Peter

How do you wikify articles like the ones that I created? Please tell me. How do you add pictures to articles?

Angela aka September 1988 (talk) 18:15, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Sir, for giving me good info.--Just Feel It (talk) 12:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Xiexie, or in Taiwanese Mandarin "Saysay," i.e., Thanks!

Dear Peter,

Thanks for the barnstar.

Pat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick0Moran (talk • contribs)

Before I visited China, I learned to pronounce xie xie as "sheh-sheh". Is that wrong? I had no trouble, but maybe the Chinese were being charitable. Varlaam (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia book

Thank you, Peter! Very much appreciated.-- Tdxiang 00:39, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

book 2thousand edits

Thank very much Peter --186.9.3.118 (talk) 12:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

As you know, I edit for Vikidia-Spanish, there English-links direct this project. Maybe, wikipedia.simple-edition could make a button doing the same ;) --186.9.3.118 (talk) 12:36, 15 January 2011 (UTC) See for example this: http://es.vikidia.org/wiki/Lollapalooza --Penarc (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Invite in template

Hi! I noticed that you edited an article that's in our scope and I was wondering if you were interested in Warriors. I thought, well, maybe that person is interested in WikiProject Warriors! There's a link here, and you can join if you like. It'll have links to every Warriors article that need to be fixed and there's a LOT in there. I haven't gotten around to finishing it yet so I would accept your help in it. It covers all articles about the series Warriors and so it is very easy to do. Thanks! Loudclaw (talk) 04:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

If you want to spread it, then {{subst:User:IanP/WikiProject Warriors template}} copy and paste it. Loudclaw (talk) 23:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

The reason I thought you were interested is because you keep (I'm not complaining) copyediting and that's helping out with Warriors articles. Loudclaw (talk) 18:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I have never read a Warriors book, so I am probably not a good person to have on the project. I am happy to help with copyediting and other edits that help bring any article up to the best standard we can achieve. Peterdownunder (talk) 06:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

The Le Monde 100

Hello, Oz. I used to live in Sydney, albeit briefly, back in the 1980s, before returning here to the Great White North. I reckon you are roasting down there today?
I wrote the original version of that page, translated from the French.
I am not an authority on Simple, so I didn't do the conversion of the introductory section.
But back in my student days studying German, we had the equivalent of Simple German in a magazine and films in class.
My instinct is that someone struggling with Simple probably does not require an original quotation in French. Too much information. What say you? After all, the full text is just a click away.
Also, you've written "a comic strip". Not clear how you arrived at 1. There are at least 3 I can think of: Hergé, Jacobs, Franquin. Only one, Tintin, is well known to anglophones.
Cheers from Toronto, Varlaam (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I bought a tinny of VB here a couple of weeks ago. First time I've seen it at the liquor store here in 25 years. It occupies a place of honour above my <<refri? I don't recall that Oz-ism for "refrigerator">>.

G'day, weather here has been wet, very wet. I agree with you about the French quote. I had only included it in case there was some subtle difference in translation, but I have taken your advice and its now gone. I only saw Asterix, I missed the Blue Lotus and Gaston. So I will fix that as well. Glad you have found some VB tinnies to stick in the fridge. Small boutique breweries are booming here, so sales of VB and other Carlton products are getting a bit of a hiding. Peterdownunder (talk) 21:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Dopey me, I completely forgot that Astérix was even on the list.

Tinny, singular. One can here costs more than a thick coin of small diameter that slips rather easily through holes in one's pocket. In 1988, I believe it was called a "2-dollar coin". Once we finally adopted same, we christened ours the "toonie", which is actually rather Australian, the land of bikies, and musos, and footie.

At that time, my friends were mocking XXXX, because of the ad, "I wouldn't give a XXXX for anything else".

I was living and working in Syd, then did my travelling bit, Cairns (Kuranda, Port Douglas), Bris, Alice, where there is a distinctly largish rock.

Anyone who has been to Oz misses it.

(Apparently you have Oprah down there this week. Oh lucky spouse.)

VB was readily available in a pinch. In the pub, I was taught to order "Black", meaning Toohey's. The very first time I was with the guys from work and it was my shout (good word!), I asked one of the guys (Pete?) what we'd been drinking. "Black."

So I went up to the bar:

Me: I'll have 3 Black please.

Barman: <bla bla bla>

Me: Excuse me?

Barman: <bla, bla, bla bla bla>

Me: Sorry?

Barman: Do you want big ones or little ones, mate?

So I went back to our table, and asked the guys what the barman had just said to me.

"He asked you if you wanted middies or schooners." "What are those?"

So I was still pretty green.

Which city are you typing from?

Varlaam (talk) 23:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC) (in Toronto)

Thanks!

Hi Peter. Thank you so much for placing that Service Award message on my Talk page. It was a really nice surprise and it has given me the enthusiasm to continue here. Happy editing, Clarity (talk) 02:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Congrats!

Hehe, you must be very old ;-) Congrats!! -Barras (talk) 23:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Older than you think - I have to buy an eight birthday present for one of them! --Peterdownunder (talk) 23:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Floods

Floods in Victoria really are news. That'll stop the farmers grumbling about drought! Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

E-mail

Left you an e-mail, in case you haven't seen it. Albacore (talk · changes) 21:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the service award! --- cymru.lass ^(talk)⁄_(changes) 08:05, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

False "sock"- ME?

If you look at my talk, then you will know the problem. I have NOT had any socks. Even on the main En wiki. I'm categorized as a "confirmed Sockpuppeteer" and I KNOW I never made a sock! My little brother made an account and because we're related we live under the same roof and so a checkuser said, and thought, hmm. Maybe this guy's a sockpuppeteer! The jerk. I've found out who did it. Loudclaw (talk) 03:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Adopting

Will you officially adopt me? I could use a few pointers around here... Cheers. Mìthrandir 22:39, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Adoption

Thanks! I have been going around to about five different users for help and I thought it would be easier to go to one person... Thanks again, and I'm sure I'll have a question for you soon. Cheers. Mìthrandir 11:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I know how hard it can be when you start - categories for example took me a long time to work out. I'll keep an eye on your edits too, and make a few suggestions. --Peterdownunder (talk) 11:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks... *sigh*... I guess you should know about me on the english wikipedia. You can look at my talk page, that explains everything. It was one stupid, stupid, stupid edit, I was frustrated that day and feeling bored about the english wikipedia, it didn't seem as if I could do anything to help... I orginially came to the simple wikipedia because there was nowhere else to go, but then realized that there is so much to do here and that I could be a positive contributor... I wan't to desperately show that it was one mistake that I made and that I have good intentions... I wish they would forgive me on the english wikipedia... *sigh* Mìthrandir 13:31, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I need some help, I am creating a category called 'Category:NASCAR Racing Teams', but I have no idea how to begin doing that... Cheers. Mìthrandir 13:58, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

You will need to have at least three articles for the category. At the end of the article, type in "Category:NASCAR Racing Teams" between the square brackets. When you save the page, the category will be at the bottom, but it will be a red link. Follow the link, edit the page, and give your new category its own category; in this case type in the "Category:NASCARS", save and it is done. I always think: first make the category, and then put it in a category.--Peterdownunder (talk) 10:20, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Orphan

How can I tell if any of my articles are orphaned? Cheers. Mìthrandir 14:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

In the "Toolbox" on the left side of the page, below "Recent Changes" and "Donate" is "What links here". Click on this and it will show you what other pages link to the article. If there are none, then it is orphaned. Look through the article and link a few key words, places or people. You may need to add links to other articles back to your article.--Peterdownunder (talk) 21:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

For example with Wilderness Road link it to Daniel Boone. In the article on the Appalachian Mountains write a sentence about the Wilderness Road and make a link to it. Little things like this will improve the article. Also the article is very short so you will need to add a Wikipedia:Stub tag like this {{stub}} or because it is an American article you could use {{US-stub}} --Peterdownunder (talk) 21:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help... Will you see the question on the section about this? Thanks. Cheers. Mìthrandir 23:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Bot

Hello, do you know how one goes about making a bot? I know it must be flagged by a 'crat, but I don't have any clue how to make one... Cheers. SPQR 23:48, 1 March 2011 (UTC)