Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2022/Zaporozhye Oblast

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The outcome of this deletion discussion was to Redirect to Zaporizhzhia Oblast.— *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 22:46, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Zaporozhye Oblast[change source]

Zaporozhye Oblast (edit · talk · history · links · watch · logs · delete) · close request

Eptalon has nominated this page for deletion for the reason: One of the four regions Vladimir Putin recently annexed, in violation of international law. As to international law, we are looking at a war zone, part of which is controlled by Russia, who is the occupying force. After a hasty referendum, Putin announced that Donetsk, Luhansk, Cherson and Zaporishia would now be annexed. In my opinion, we cannot at the current time give an unbiased account, as we are smply lacking information, and secondly, keeping thisarticlewhich likely duplicates most of the article on the Ukrainian oblast, might give this some sort of legitimation. So: currently the only option is to delete this article (and other,similar ones, should they crop up). Opinions? Eptalon (talk) 16:27, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss this request below, but keep in mind that you shouldn't vote on everything and that there may be options other than "keep" or "delete", such as merging.

Discussion[change source]

Delete The Ukrainian name is surely the most common name in English as well. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:44, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Zaporizhzhia Oblast Russian invasion can be mentioned but not in the way it was written in this article. This article opening with Zaporozhye Oblast [...] is a federal subject of the Russian Federation is just wrong, even if we did want to cover it separately from the legitimate Ukrainian oblast. --Ferien (talk) 21:37, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think this article should stay. If Wikipedia only went by internationally recognized things, then we wouldn't have articles on the Anschluss or on Kosovo or Armenia (for example). Reason for strikethrough: I now think that this article should redirect to Zaporizhzhia Oblast. For more information, see my comment two comments below. InfernoGaming46 (talk) 13:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
InfernoGaming46, there is a difference between Kosovo, Armenia and this. Kosovo and Armenia are both recognised as countries by a significant amount of the international community, Kosovo being recognised by around 100 countries and Armenia being recognised by almost every country apart from one. Compare that to this, this region has been annexed, and that can be reported on in the existing article - I believe only Russia have recognised Zaporozhye Oblast as part of Russia. The Anschluss was an event, and that is comparable to Annexation of Southern and Eastern Ukraine, another place we could add about this. We should have an article on the event, not on the new oblast making it look like this new oblast is recognised.

If we want to focus on how things have been done on other articles: yes, there's North Korea and South Korea, they both claim all of Korea but in reality, when we are talking about them, we are talking about North and South Korea and the areas they actually control, not claim. And there is just one article for Taiwan and there is just one article for Jerusalem. --Ferien (talk) 16:55, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about it more, I say that this article should redirect to Zaporizhzhia Oblast, and the Russian occupation should be explained more in detail there or on another article titled "Russian Occupation of Zaporizhzhia Oblast" or something like that. Although, by then, will Russia even control any of it? Also, I checked enwiki and it appears they deleted the articles about the Russian versions of the oblasts as well. My one question is about Crimea, since on enwiki there is an article for the Ukrainian one (the Autonomous Republic of Crimea) and one for the mostly unrecognized Russian one (the Republic of Crimea). It seems that the Republic of Crimea's article is the only one we have here, despite it being almost entirely unrecognized internationally, like this one (although I suppose this one is entirely unrecognized except by Russia). InfernoGaming46 (talk) 13:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Redirects are not required to be useful, and this could be helpful for readers if they see the Russian name and want to learn what it is. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This request is due to close on 16:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC), seven days after it was filed, although it may be closed earlier at the discretion of an administrator.

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