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List of countries

Hi, Mac. I noticed your edit summary, "defined as UN members", when you made a change to this page. The page is a list of sovereign states, as mentioned in the hatnote. They do not have to be UN members. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes. You are right, though sovereignty is open to different interpretations (often in the past) whereas membership of the UN can always be definitively decided. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:49, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Alamania punicea

I nominated Alamania punicea for deletion because it was a word-to-word copy of this article. I don't understand why it was declined. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:35, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I just noticed you made some changes after declining the article. However, the content still seems to be the same as the Wikipedia article. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

The article is notable, and not especially complex. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:41, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree. However, with some cleanup, the A3 problem can be sorted. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I did some simplification here. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

I think article 2113 NFL Season doesn’t meet the criteria to be on Simple Wiki. Article is jickjack and not any reliable sources are provided please review this . MTKASH 12:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree, it's not an article at all. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

• Thankyou ! @Macdonald-ross: MTKASH 12:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Next time, I think that article could simply be added to the quick deletion list because it appears to be a hoax. There is no need to contact M-R directly as any admin, not just him, can delete the page. ««« SOME GADGET GEEK »»» (talk) 13:05, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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Undo on Simple Talk

Sorry for undoing your edit, I needed to restore the content and such on top of Simple Talk and, being on mobile, to undo your edit and immediately preceeding that undo the IP's edit is much easier than copying the lines from the diff. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 11:37, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Fine, thanks for reinstating the top-piece. Macdonald-ross (talk) 11:53, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Review

Hello mac, I was having a look around when I saw this article. I went through some sources and read the whole article but was unable to conclude that the subject is notable or not. And the article might be more focused on other things than encyclopedic details like mobile apps (you may see them in the references too. So what I am getting at is, if you have time please check the article once. Thanks-BRP ^ever 12:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

It didn't claim notability, nor was there evidence to pass, so I QD'd it. Possibly some of its founders might be notable, but the firm does not inherit their notability. I think we have hundreds of articles which are not notable. I'm not seeking a witch hunt, just pointing out what the rules are. Our guidelines were not meant (as far as I know) to let in articles on grounds which En wiki would reject. Instead, I think our versions were meant to say the same things in simple language. However, the chart on En wiki reveals that their version is tougher than we have been applying, at any rate I think so. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:40, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with that. I find many articles here which failed to prove their notability in enwiki and were deleted through the process there. I don't think our notability guideline is weaker than that of enwiki. To be clear, what I mean is, this is not the place where we accept "not notable" or "to be notable" topics which were rejected on enwiki. Thanks-BRP ^ever 13:01, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

YBN Nahmir

Hi Ross, may I ask why did you QD YBN Nahmir last month, ( I was on a wikibreak so I could not monitor what was going on). Isn't it on enwiki and it caught attention to many music lovers typically Hip-Hop and Trap. I would be happy if you explained as soon as you can. Thanks :)--DJ (✉ - ✔) 13:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Pages need to claim notability, and fulfill our requirements for notability. See links on recent discussion on WP:Simple talk, and also WP:Notability. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

About Priya Sigdel

i saw you deleted the page Priya Sigdel claiming not any notability. You should check the article first before deleting she is the winner of Miss Earth Nepal 2018. She is also in eng wiki [1] how could you delete without any AFD or RFD? she is notable so i request you to restore the page. MTKASH^{TALK Contribs} 20:37, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Question on the subheadings you deleted

{"<Lucie Person (talk) 23:45, 17 April 2018 (UTC) Hello, for my article change on Chameleons, you've kept deleting my subheadings over and over again. You've stated that you don't use subheadings for smaller sections, but I think it does no harm, and that it makes it look more organized. Please consider adding it back?
Also, thanks so much for merging my article. Here's a barnstar for it:

(I think that's how barnstars work? A bit new to Wiki) :) Lucie Person (talk) 23:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Um okay that did not work how I wanted it. Anyways, looking forward to your response!
Lucie Person (talk) 23:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

If I make a comment as I did on sub-headings, I reflect the usual practice here. Editors just have to accept that others may revise their efforts, and experienced patrollers may adjust their edits to fit our methods. New editors perhaps don't think like this, but by joining the wiki everyone has to accept the general consensus. Issues can be discussed on WP:Simple talk if necessary. Anyway, we welcome you as a new editor, and hope you enjoy it. There is a page called Simple start (see top left), which maybe you've already noticed. Macdonald-ross (talk) 07:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Simple Articles

So you mean creating less words on this article? ill do that next time is gonna be simple greetings :)

• Not so much fewer words as less complex language. See links on our Main page for advice. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Disney princess page film franchise

Why did you delete my "disney princess film franchise" page?

• Reason is given on the delete notice. Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:36, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

no you did not mention it!

Yes, he did: the reason was that the article didn't show notability. I have just deleted it again for the same reason. If you want to create it again, be sure to show notability. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:04, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

IhateCrisCrotz (talk · contribs) is an obvious sock puppet of Jack Gaines (talk · contribs). I've been playing cat and mouse with them for the past half hour because no admins are currently around to block him. TenPoundHammer (talk) 19:31, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

• ETA: I see you're an admin. Can you please indefinitely block him? Obvious vandalism-only account + sockpuppet. TenPoundHammer (talk) 19:32, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, he's blocked now. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:32, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Can you make it a permanent block please? He is obviously a sockpuppet of a long-term vandal. The "Jack Gaines" account has been globally blocked for repeated "Alan Jackson killed country" vandalism. TenPoundHammer (talk) 19:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Proof: [2], [3] (same user name being indef blocked on Spanish Wikipedia for identical vandalism). PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE indef block this guy. He's been bothering me since November and I guarantee a 31 hour isn't enough. TenPoundHammer (talk) 19:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

I know that, but we have oversighters who will look at the case. Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Interesting Facts About The Library of Congress

I just wanted to note that it was not actually a copyright violation. Content written by employees of the Library of Congress during their official duties is available in the public domain. Anyways, it's deleted now and I'm sure consensus (if the RfD had continued) would have been to delete. Thanks, Vermont (talk) 12:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh, thank you, that's a very good point! Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:07, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Lake Maracaibo...

Hello, I am done for now. I just needed to fix the references in one of the sections copied from EnWP. --Eptalon (talk) 09:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Duckweed...

As lake Maracaibo seems to have a problem with duckweed (or a species of it) I copied the article on duckweed from EnWP, and started simplifying it. I left out the taxonomy section (which is probably less interesting to our readers), and I am thinking the same about the research... section. Just a quick question: When you have the time, can you have a quick glance at the article? - Ideally, we want to be scientifically correct, but not burden our readers with too much information they will likely have little use for. --Eptalon (talk) 13:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

These En wiki pages are so badly written. Personally, I would not have imported so much. In places it's almost like a begging letter for more research funds. Still, as you say, it is relevant to Maracaibo! Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

I have added the {{notsimple}} template into the page. Daniel "Danny" Lorraine (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

changing the definition of Lovelace

You changed the definition of Lovelace from the topic being a movie to being a last name. For what reason? Angela Maureen (talk) 18:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

I think you should already know the answer to this. "Lovelace" is ambiguous, and was replaced by a disambig page. There is still a page on the film. Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:18, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you, although I don't think a month would be enough for him to stop calling any random person with an arabic name a terrorist Mohamed^Talk 21:03, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

That was just to stop him while I investigated his other edits. Macdonald-ross (talk) 21:05, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

It's a sockpuppet of Tamara787, otherwise known as the Alan Jackson LTA. I've reported it to stewards to be locked globally. Vermont (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Dil Hi Toh Hai

Sir Macdonald-ross Why did you delete the notable article dil hi toh hai I cited sources and there was no problem with the article? Akir333456 (talk) 18:02, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Notability is the issue. A film or other event cannot be notable until qualified critics have seen it and said it is so, or other sound basis for notability. Accounts of films which have not been shown are, unless exceptionally famous, unknown quantities. On the other hand, putting up descriptions of a film which has not yet been shown is to advertise it, even if unintentionally. That is a second point against it. Why not wait until the film is shown and some professional critics have given their opinion in the press or on the web? Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

JLO (disambiguation)

Hi, Mac. Just a note: the disambiguation category should not be added directly to pages. It should only be added by using a disambiguation template, even though it's a little more work to do that. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 19:05, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

You did this again, here. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

deletion of Bad Education

Bad Education wasn't word for words, and should never have been deleted. The article wasn't complex. I don't understand; I feel ashamed when my articles get deleted like that. Can you tell me what was complex about the article? Angela Maureen (talk) 18:10, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

I have re-examined it, and agree with you. So I've reinstated it. I'm glad you protested! Macdonald-ross (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Hardblocks on IPs

Is there a particular reason you are defaulting to hardblocking IPs? There's no way we can tell (w/o checkuser) that a legitimate user will not be caught in such a block. Chenzw  Talk  14:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

What are you referring to? Macdonald-ross (talk) 14:58, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

That would be your most recent block of 202.176.116.69 that I am referring to, though I also note that all of your IP blocks made in June and July have been hardblocks (non-anonymous users only) too. Chenzw  Talk  15:15, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

View Articles

Dear McDonald

I decided to come to your talk because I need to hear from you.

I would like you to view the article I created Julius Malema and if possible & suitable, have it verified. I would also like to know if writing a book available on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Persecuted-search-change-Joseph-Kalimbwe-ebook/dp/B07F6QD764 and being sold on local markets is not a sign of Notability. This is because, a page Joseph Kalimbwe was recently removed despite, edits being made it. Can it be restored? Or being an author is does not meet notability.

I also noticed you redirected my article Thai Boys and wasn't notified on it. I am not sure if you could also have article from French Wikipedia because there is Godrich Gardee on that Wiki and I would want to move.

I thought of coming to your talk because i need advise on the way forward and if i need to make changes to any of these or not. It feels sad to create a page and have it deleted or removed or unattended. But I am eager to learn more and don't wish to make any changes myself because it's quite shameful to see the work I did go in vain.

I can also see Mbuyeseni Ndlozi is as having page issues as on en.wikipedia.

Best regards GPPPEM (talk) 16:40, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

What you need to do is to fully understand our guidelines. Decisions to remove pages on WP:RfD are based on the discussion procedure. Decisions based on WP:QD are made according to its list of reasons. Don't tell me something or someone is notable: read the guidelines at WP:Notability and if necessary the full guidelines on English wiki. There's no future in discussing whether, in some other sense, a person or issue is notable. Those guidelines are what we go by, take it or leave it.

However, I will briefly discuss Thai Boys. I was just a case of keeping things together for the convenience of readers. On current events it makes sense to have one page to update rather than two or three. The page name will probably be changed again later, but that can wait for the moment. News events are bound to change pages, and my move makes it easier for readers and other editors to keep an eye on what is going on. The boys are not notable as individuals, but as part of the ongoing event. Macdonald-ross (talk) 05:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

I understand the decision on Joseph Kalimbwe passed and it was deemed not notable. However, I did put the character's published works on Amazon which deams it suitable for inclusion. I have read and seen everything on the WP:Notability rules and having made those changes of authorship. Unless you say being an author is not a sign of Notability on Wikipedia, I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be kept.

I understand your say on Thai Boys and would wait events completion. GPPPEM (talk) 08:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Amazon's job is to sell books. Our job is to build an encyclopedia using simple English. We have rules: editors are expected to accept the rules. Controverted pages are decided by community discussion. That's the way it is. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Does that then mean, that after having added the books to the character's profile, a page cannot be created because a discussion ended? Which in any case, the discussion was closed 3 days after it began unlike the required 7 days. This was after, I included the books on references in the second submission. Do check its history of deletion by you on the second submission GPPPEM (talk) 08:31, 9 July 2018 (UTC)