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US history/geography categories maintenance task[change source]

In Category talk:19th century establishments in South Dakota, I've outlined a problem with category and subcategory names associated with the pre-statehood Dakotas. Are there identified "project people" among the regular contributors here, e.g. American history or geography buffs? I'd rather refer tasks like this one to them, or to solely Anglophone contributors, while I focus on the less-served and larger global sphere aligned with my particular (peculiar) skills set. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 12:33, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Why presume it's a problem first and then discussion afterwards? As I pointed out before elsewhere, these categories have existed for years here. We also have categories like Category:19th century establishments in Germany even though Germany as a country didn't exist in the 19th century (at least the exact German borders didn't exist). Nevertheless, then we should have a policy-based discussion about it. Perhaps propose that category for renaming and allow for a general discussion there and see if the people who proposed and created the vast amount of those categories support renaming on that basis. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ricky81682: I won't insist on precise grammar when the resultant rename process would badly impact the pragmatic allocation of editing resources. So let's focus on one concern: the correspondence of each Simple English category with an English WP category to which it can be interwiki-linked in Wikidata. Here the value lies in accessing the additional and likely larger bodies of content via the left-hand sidebar links under "Languages." As each Wikidata item may link only to a single page in the other WP projects, linking a pre-statehood North Dakota or South Dakota to the item for the "Dakota territories" is problematic. Should an editor noticing this be unable to individually complete the indicated changes - or perhaps to explore the possibility of a purpose-made bot to accomplish part of the work (with which I have no experience, just supposing) - would the proper move be to comment on the related category's talk page, and then - on which Simple English editors' forum? -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:07, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Interface administrators policy[change source]

Hi all. I've been working on an interface administrators policy draft (since we do not have one yet) based on the corresponding policy at simple.wikt. Please feel free to suggest improvements (or add to the draft directly), we need some sort of consensus on how to handle this right. Hiàn (talk) 19:57, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I think we already did in a previous discussion unless I am totally imagining it. It will be handed out the same way we hand out flood. Temporarily and the person who hands it out will be responsible for checking what the editor did to make sure it was ok. Don't need the whole formalized request area like rollback etc. Just like we don't for flood. Just grab a crat and ask them. -DJSasso (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
I think you're right (looks like my memory's failing me already). Sorry for wasting your time. Hiàn (talk) 03:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Class editing China-related articles[change source]

There is currently a class working on China-related articles. Their teacher is User:Mr Spear. I recently acquainted him with our processes for school projects, so I hope he will follow them the next time he has students work here.

Some of the students have been changing Talk:Main Page. The teacher said he would tell them not to do that when they next meet, which I believe he said would be Monday. In the meantime, could we not escalate warnings for that too far? I'm sure that would be appreciated. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Local change to Template:Infobox album[change source]

This template was assigning the category Category:Album infoboxes lacking a cover‏‎. That category makes sense for English Wikipedia, because when there is no usable album cover image on Commons (which there often isn't, because album cover art is often copyrighted), they can host local images. We don't host local images, however, so this category would just fill up even though there's nothing we could do about most of the entries.

Therefore, I removed Category:Album infoboxes lacking a cover‏‎ from the template. If anyone strongly objects, we can discuss and possibly restore it (and create the category), but I don't think that category helps us here. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Advanced Search[change source]

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 11:03, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

911 (emergency telephone number)[change source]

911 is the number people in the us and Canada dial in case of an emergency. There is also a 999 emergency telephone number used in other countries. I believe it is vitally important to document the number used in each country, since people’s lives may depend on it.

Please see: Talk:9-1-1. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Treatment of objectionable talk page content[change source]

How does the Simple English WP treat nonsense or offensive content on an otherwise valid article's Talk page, when it's the only posting? As it's over a year old and the last posting from that IP address, I didn't bother to apply the Template:Unsigned. I'm quite sure the content doesn't belong here, just need advice how to proceed. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:27, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

I usually replace the bad content with {{talk header}}. I've made that change to the page. Vermont (talk) 19:29, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Getting to simple articles from English[change source]

I know this is more an issue for Wik/En, but has anyone noticed that with the new language connection system, Simple English Wikipedia linking has become hard or impossible to find? When I tried to find the Simple English links to Bay City, Michigan and to Lake Huron on the English sites, I could not find them at all. The links used to be alphabetical (which made it easy to see if there was an SE link), but now they are grouped by geography: I couldn't find SE under global, Europe or North America. Subjects that only have SE and EN do have the link to SE easily visible. Can anyone help me understand what's going on? Are they there, but I just don't see them, or whatKdammers (talk) 14:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I started a ticket at phab:T210840. Vermont (talk) 14:31, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Wierd, I still have the old style interwiki links everywhere. Didn't know there was a new geographical version.-DJSasso (talk) 17:29, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Mentorship?[change source]

I know that there's no formal mentorship or adoption process on this Wikipedia, but is there an informal one? I'm interested in creating articles to improve Simple, but my current articles are too complex. Is there an experienced editor able to help me with this? Thanks. Diadophis (talk) 01:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

How to merge and maintain both page histories?[change source]

While doing maintenance among Special pages/Uncategorized pages and then following up in Wikidata, I encountered the following:

  • Shahmukhī (created 8 June 2017) with a fair amount of content, which I wikified.
  • Shahmukhī alphabet (created 4 September 2016) with little content, somewhat mismatched with the above; the EN WP uses this page name.

Neither page has any sources. I could contact the earlier page's creator, who's only been active intermittently on any WP. But were I to perform a manual (?) merge myself, how are the two page histories maintained? -- Deborahjay (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

That requires a histmerge, which administrators can do. Vermont (talk) 16:32, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Great! Reposted to the Admins' noticeboard. -- Deborahjay (talk) 16:55, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Done. -DJSasso (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

New Wikimedia password policy and requirements[change source]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Adopt an editor program[change source]

Hello friends! After a few conversations with a other Wikipedians, I'm proposing beginning an "Adopt an Editor" program for Simple English Wikipedia. I'm volunteering to lead this effort to bring more editors to work on this project, even if it isn't their "home wiki." I would like to offer a way that new editors to our project can learn to constructively edit on SEWP and show them the unique ways our project is a bit different from other WP wikis. There will be some small requirements to admin this project which I'm happy to develop:

  1. "WP:Adopt an editor" guideline page with space for volunteering to be a mentor and a space to request a mentor
  2. Develop a template that can be placed voluntarily on an editor's talk page indicating they are being mentored
  3. Develop a template that can be placed voluntarily on an editor's talk or user page indicating they are a SEWP Mentor
  4. Develop a tracking category for tracking purposes
  5. Experienced SEWP editors willing to volunteer their time to help new editors to our project

If community consensus for this project is attained, I'll begin developing the proposed implements immediately. If consensus is obtained, I want this project to be for the community, by the community... so I will need to receive input from all editors of this project on how to develop this program and make it a success. I suggest an independent, uninvolved sysop determine if consensus is obtained in 7 days. Thank you all! Operator873talkconnect 04:29, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

We had one at one point, trying to think what the page was for it. Don't think it ever really accomplished much. With only 20-30 regular editors it often just became easier to have people just talk one on one to other editors. But hey if you want to give it a go have at er. -DJSasso (talk) 12:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
I believe we deleted the infrastructure for the process. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Yeah I was thinking we might have done that. Too much admin effort for little gain. Figured it would be best if people just did it privately amoungst each other on their own talk pages. -DJSasso (talk) 15:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)