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Signature[change source]

 Done

Hi, I just wanted to tell you that you forgot to put your signature at Wikipedia:Proposed_good_articles#Kabuki :P. Etoza (?) 08:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good grief. It’s supposed to do it for me gggrrrrrrr PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:39, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Etoza Fixed :)PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of {{blocked}} tag here[change source]

The {{blocked}} (or {{blocked user}}) tag adds the page to CAT:TWU so eventually it can be deleted. --Ferien (talk) 17:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But we do not want it deleted as it is a globally locked account. So having globally locked and blocked on the same page is redundant and global lock is higher than block and if another admin from another wiki sees that then they know so we don't want the page deleted. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) It is not necessary to worry about these. It is not redundant to have both templates; if the global lock is lifted, the local one would still be in effect. I recommend that you not add or remove templates related to a user's block status. The templates don't have to be there, and the blocking admin may have reasons for placing them or not. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Questions again[change source]

Would you please explain the reason for these reverts that you did?

Your edit summaries on the first two indicated "unexplained changes," but why did they need to be reverted? On the third, the summary indicated that you were reverting vandalism; in what way was it vandalism?

Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 So the reason being when the first couple popped up I just reverted them and gave a warning. Then I got an alert that the user talk page changed. The IP user blanked the page, as they are allowed to do. What I noticed in the looking at the history is that they had been doing this for quite a while, including a block in May for vandalism. As I looked through all of the articles they edited, even though small unnoticeable changes at first glance, they were changing the information on pages to be inaccurate. These were all on BLP articles. With a couple out of the hundred or so on a TV show. They changed birth dates, years, active years, birth places, just a lot of non-factual information so I decided based on these factors, the history the IP had, the fact they got blocked for the same thing and they got blocked again today after I gave them their warnings, I chose to make it vandalism as they were made aware it is such. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:55, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You "just reverted" the first two? Why? And with the third one, you "chose to make it vandalism"? You don't choose to make something vandalism; either it is or it isn't. I don't see why any of the ones I linked are vandalism. The user had added some links, and in one case changed to link directly to a page instead of to a redirect. Those are good things. I'm going to consider removing your rollback right, especially if I see any more like this. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Have a good night. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:15, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you[change source]

The Categorisation Barnstar
For your tireless work as we reduced the number of uncategorized articles from three digits to one! Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Goodbye?[change source]

I know I haven't been here long, but I think that simple is really going to miss your commit and work. One day, I hope you might decide to come back. Perhaps you might even be unblocked at enwiki someday. I know I might not influence you to stay, but I hope that you know people care. If not, then I hope you have a great rest of your life. AnApple47 (talk) 02:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

+1. Please come back one day. If you're bored of simple, which you seem to be, please consider helping other Wikimedia projects, I would be glad to welcome you there. Bye for now. --Ferien (talk) 06:15, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
+2 Thank you for your service here. I'd love to see you come back one day --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
+3 Sad to see a regular and new changes patroller go. Your presence will be missed... I wish you good luck on whatever you're doing now though! Etoza (?) 22:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
+4 This wiki needs people like you who are very supportive and generous to new editors, Please come back and lets make this wiki a better place <3, I feel sad whenever I see that tag on your user page Suryabeej   ⋠talk⋡ 08:05, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-25[change source]

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15:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021[change source]

Please do not make unhelpful changes to Wikipedia. The changes you made seem to be vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you want to try changing Wikipedia to learn more about how it works, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Auntof6 (talk) 08:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6: Was this an accident? It looks like you reverted a change from 91.213.233.146 and didn't warn them but warned PotsdamLamb instead. --Ferien (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ferien: Yes, an accident Thanks for pointing it out. I've warned the IP now. Apologies to PotsdamLamb. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:25, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-26[change source]

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Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 2[change source]

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Coming back?[change source]

It appears you're coming back - I'd like to be the first to welcome you back. Fixing26 (talk) 15:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Welcome back too. If it was just a temporary leave then there is a wikibreak template. Darubrub (Let me know) 15:58, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    No I was going to remain retired but I need something to do once in a while. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:15, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Welcome back :D --Ferien2 (talk) 17:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WELCOME BACK[change source]

I thought you have gone forever, at which I was really shocked! But your surprising return really make me feel happy! Good day, Man! Let's work together once again in the wiki! Haoreima (talk) 14:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Haoreima Thanks! I’m only off and on. I work 12 hour nights 6 days a week for the most part. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:28, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back to da club ;) Have some free coffee (or beer if you prefer), and no I don't have free money for you at this moment lol. But I've got canned beans!:P --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@つがる Thanks! Funny you mention money. One of my clients has a parking garage that gets a lot of homeless people going through it. On the back of one of the vehicles the owner wrote "It's my 21st Birthday! Venmo me money at ......." I laughed so hard I almost pee'd myself. Thanks, I am glad to be back. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:15, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 03:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quick deletions[change source]

I declined your QD request on Category:User na-1 because the 3-item limit doesn't apply to that kind of category. In addition, that kind of category normally contains templates and never contains articles. Take a look at other "User-xx" categories for examples. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha! Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 22:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User subpages[change source]

Hey PotsdamLamb, would you like protection on User:PotsdamLamb/badwords and User:PotsdamLamb/Lists of common misspellings/For machines? They both had a protection template on somewhere, so if you need semi-protection on them, just let me know. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 08:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ferien Yes please and anything else you can since I use all of them for scripts :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done the two I mentioned. You'd like protection on all the pages listed here, correct? --Ferien (talk) 08:35, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ferien yes please PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:38, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done --Ferien (talk) 08:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ferien yeah i got all the emails lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 08:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Guideline copying[change source]

I just moved the guideline you copied over to your user space to work on. You can't just copy guidelines over as they will require community discussion and major simplification (which is why they aren't here already). -Djsasso (talk) 16:45, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Djsasso Look at your talk please. I did not appreciate what you did and all of my changes were lost so just delete all of them. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 16:48, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creating maintenance categories[change source]

Most of the maintenance categories are set up in a specific way. The way you set up Category:Articles needing additional references from August 2021 was not correct, so I have fixed it. When creating such a category, please look at a similar one to see how to set it up. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 Gotcha! I copied that from another one I can’t remember where though. Maybe off of EN wiki. Now I know it’s much simpler with that template. I have it in my notes now. Thanks much! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 09:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The one thing to watch for is with the categories for pages needing to be simplified. Those take some extra parameters that the others don't. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 Can you link me to one please so I can see what you mean? I’m assuming CATS are basically templates? @Auntof6 PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 09:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Here's an example: Category:Pages needing to be simplified from August 2021. I don't know what you mean by "assuming CATS are basically templates". --Auntof6 (talk) 09:41, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 What I mean is when I look at what you did on the original link, all I see when I edit the page is {{MonthlyCleanupCat}}. That is what I mean by templates. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 16:19, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-34[change source]

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pls do not delete my user page[change source]

Pls PotsdamLamb Do not them delete my user page— Preceding unsigned comment added by MMW world (talk • contribs) 18:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MMW world I am not an administrator, therefore, I cannot delete the page. I can nominate it, which is what I did as it is advertising. An administrator will review and make the final decision. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your question on an RFD page[change source]

I noticed that you asked a question about RFDs started by "banned" users. That user is not banned here; they are indeffed. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I misspoke, as they are blocked as a sockpuppet so I see that as banned. My apologies for using the wrong wording. I would strike out the word, but it closed. The original user was blocked in 2018 so that is why I used banned as well. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Read-only reminder[change source]

A maintenance operation will be performed on Wednesday August 25 06:00 UTC. It should only last for a few minutes.

This will affect your wiki as well as 11 other wikis. During this time, publishing edits will not be possible.

Also during this time, operations on the CentralAuth will not be possible (GlobalRenames, changing/confirming e-mail addresses, logging into new wikis, password changes).

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20:35, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: Do you think we need to post this on the main page or simple talk? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 20:37, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

vm[change source]

In the past, you mentioned you used Virtual Machines, Do you use Virtualbox? Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@つがる I used to. But I don’t use anything anymore except my pc. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, I see. Did you ever use Guest Additions when using VirtualBox? --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:32, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Very few and they are a pain in the *** PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 02:33, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I hate the Guest Additions, I always screw them up, and in my virtualbox it is pretty much broken, and the Windows VM has working Guest Additions, but I think I broke it! I hate them. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:44, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 02:46, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 3[change source]

Universal Code of Conduct News
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Your error[change source]

There's an error in citation in the page Khongjomnubi Nongarol. Rectify it. There are many cases I found like these, because of you. So, get some care while doing so in future. Haoreima (talk) 15:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Haoreima @Auntof6 Haoreima - I do not appreciate you demanding I do anything or accusing me of anything. You need to be civil and polite. There are not many of these cases it is prone to happen as I clean up articles due to how bad they are when I work on them. I tagged Auntof6 because I know this is not the first incident involving you acting in this way. I will bookmark the article to fix later as I am at work. Don’t post anything like this again please. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 15:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pointing out an error, or accusing someone of something is not necessarily uncivil, especially if Haoreima has given evidence of the error you made. Here, whilst all the references are just displayed as links, they aren't broken, but here, there is a big red error in the references section. I also recall you making another edit to a page that broke the references. --Ferien (talk) 16:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ferien It’s the tone of the message. Not the content. Again it is bound to happen as you are aware. I’m also working so I can’t do it now. But this is also something someone else can fix too. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 16:11, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
PDL, it's pretty obvious that Haoreima's English is not perfect, so I would cut him some slack concerning his tone. The nuances of courteous language can be difficult to learn. Also, it wasn't necessary to ping an admin here. If you have an issue with another editor that's serious enough to report, please use one of the standard places for doing that. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why are creating an issue? I simply asked you to have care in future, everything in good faith. It may regarded as an "advice" or "suggestion", not to have much error in future! See, why I said, There are many cases I found like these, because of you. because of Talk:Khuman Khamba and Talk:Korouhanba. And I ain't accusing you. Pointing out an error isn't uncivil but helping you. In fact, you are accusing me as if I am offending you, by creating the issue bigger. Your speech- "I tagged Auntof6 because I know this is not the first incident involving you acting in this way." Is this good? Actually, you hurted my sentiment. Haoreima (talk) 17:19, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima As Auntof6 said it’s a matter of the language barrier. You are not a native speaker of English so it does come off that way to me. I am ok. I fixed both errors via my phone since I have a little time. The one all the references are a giant mess. I was able to get rid of the bare references but it needs more work for it to be properly done. The other one whomever put the references in gave them the same title but different links. If you look at the WP cleaner it was to clean up duplicate references not to correct them. That basically means it found the references written out multiple times instead of just once and using a reference name. The other article also listed all of the google books as a cite web which is incorrect as it should have been cite book. I eliminated the error but again I’ll need to go through and properly get them done. Neither one of these errors were introduced by me. They were already present and I simply did not double check my work. You listed one that was done over a month ago and pinged Ferien and all he did was a rollback but you never notified me. To say many is incorrect in the English language. Many means a lot more than 2 or 3 errors. Otherwise you can say I noticed a couple of errors on these articles. If you need anything else please let me know. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Seems I have to learn an English language class from you, lol! Haoreima (talk) 18:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It’s all good. I used to know German and 5 different beginners classes in Spanish and I still can’t speak it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 18:51, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Haoreima If you look at Khongjomnubi Nongarol you will see how the references should be. I fixed them all. Here is the diff. When you compare them you will see why I cannot do it on a mobile device. You will also notice if you compare the original to the final why it is always a pain because it was very old fashioned and not put in correctly. But they are now fixed. I did ask someone to assist me on fixing the infobox and the template because that layout is not correct but I do not know how to fix it. They will probably help me/fix it in the next day or so. I will work on the other article as well. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 03:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-35[change source]

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  • Advanced item The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more about this.
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16:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Your error 2[change source]

Hello! I saw when you convert some links, you merged all the links from with "unique search results" into one, just because they belong to the same book. It will create a misunderstanding to other editors in future. So, I have reconstructed all those vanished unique links. See Edit 1, Edit 2 and Edit 3 So, please do not merge things into one if they are unique. This case should be discussed separately from the case of bare URL. Haoreima (talk) 07:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These are the same things. We need to stick to one discussion (which is on your page) so we are not duplicating our messages to each other. I already explained on your talk page. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 07:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2021-37[change source]

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Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 4[change source]

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 4, October 2021Read the full newsletter

Welcome to the fourth issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

If you haven’t already, please remember to subscribe here if you would like to be notified about future editions of the newsletter, and also leave your username here if you’d like to be contacted to help with translations in the future.

  • Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review Wrap-up - The Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review will come to a close on 17 October 2021, after more than two months of extensive consultations. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable Discussions and Conversation Hours - Another successful roundtable session happened on September 18, 2021 to discuss the EDGR. One last conversation hour will be happening on October 15th, 2021. (continue reading)
  • Movement Charter Drafting Committee Elections - The Movement Charter Drafting Committee selection process has kicked off and will be open until October 25, 2021. Contributors to Wikimedia projects can elect their favorite candidates on to the committee. (continue reading)
  • New Direction for the Newsletter - As we round-up the consultation processes for the Universal Code of Conduct, the facilitation team is currently envisioning new directions for the newsletter. (continue reading)
  • Diff Blogs - Check out the most recent publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff. (continue reading)

MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 20:48, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy unblock day (yesterday)[change source]

Welcome back to wikipedia!

kolva | chat? 19:46, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 5[change source]

I'm sorry about the late delivery of this newsletter. Within the newsletter was material about an ongoing vote, which closes in under 20 hours.

Please share the information links with interested users: Project Overview • Universal Code of Conduct • Enforcement guidelines (proposed) • Voting • Voter information • Voting link

Movement Strategy and Governance News

Issue 5, January 2022Read the full newsletter

Welcome to the fifth issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News (formerly known as Universal Code of Conduct News)! This revamped newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the Movement Charter, Universal Code of Conduct, Movement Strategy Implementation grants, Board elections and other relevant MSG topics. This Newsletter will be distributed quarterly, while more frequent Updates will also be delivered weekly or bi-weekly to subscribers. Please remember to subscribe here if you would like to receive these updates.

  • Call for Feedback about the Board elections - We invite you to give your feedback on the upcoming WMF Board of Trustees election. This call for feedback went live on 10th January 2022 and will be concluded on 16th February 2022. (continue reading)
  • Universal Code of Conduct Ratification - In 2021, the WMF asked communities about how to enforce the Universal Code of Conduct policy text. The revised draft of the enforcement guidelines should be ready for community vote in March. (continue reading)
  • Movement Strategy Implementation Grants - As we continue to review several interesting proposals, we encourage and welcome more proposals and ideas that target a specific initiative from the Movement Strategy recommendations. (continue reading)
  • The New Direction for the Newsletter - As the UCoC Newsletter transitions into MSG Newsletter, join the facilitation team in envisioning and deciding on the new directions for this newsletter. (continue reading)
  • Diff Blogs - Check out the most recent publications about MSG on Wikimedia Diff. (continue reading)

Xeno (WMF) (talk) 04:12, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 6[change source]

Movement Strategy and Governance News
Issue 6, April 2022Read the full newsletter

Welcome to the sixth issue of Movement Strategy and Governance News! This revamped newsletter distributes relevant news and events about the Movement Charter, Universal Code of Conduct, Movement Strategy Implementation grants, Board of trustees elections and other relevant MSG topics.

This Newsletter will be distributed quarterly, while the more frequent Updates will also be delivered weekly. Please remember to subscribe here if you would like to receive future issues of this newsletter.

  • Leadership Development - A Working Group is Forming! - The application to join the Leadership Development Working Group closed on April 10th, 2022, and up to 12 community members will be selected to participate in the working group. (continue reading)
  • Universal Code of Conduct Ratification Results are out! - The global decision process on the enforcement of the UCoC via SecurePoll was held from 7 to 21 March. Over 2,300 eligible voters from at least 128 different home projects submitted their opinions and comments. (continue reading)
  • Movement Discussions on Hubs - The Global Conversation event on Regional and Thematic Hubs was held on Saturday, March 12, and was attended by 84 diverse Wikimedians from across the movement. (continue reading)
  • Movement Strategy Grants Remain Open! - Since the start of the year, six proposals with a total value of about $80,000 USD have been approved. Do you have a movement strategy project idea? Reach out to us! (continue reading)
  • The Movement Charter Drafting Committee is All Set! - The Committee of fifteen members which was elected in October 2021, has agreed on the essential values and methods for its work, and has started to create the outline of the Movement Charter draft. (continue reading)
  • Introducing Movement Strategy Weekly - Contribute and Subscribe! - The MSG team have just launched the updates portal, which is connected to the various Movement Strategy pages on Meta-wiki. Subscriber to get up-to-date news about the various ongoing projects. (continue reading)
  • Diff Blogs - Check out the most recent publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff. (continue reading)

Thanks for reading. Xeno (WMF) 02:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vote Symbols[change source]

Hi, I'm Pythoncoder, the maintainer of the Vote Symbols userscript. I see that you have copied my script over to this wiki. Two things:

  1. I made some small changes to the script. You may want to make them to your version too.
  2. Could you please link to my original documentation from your page?

Thanks, — pythoncoder  (talk | changes) 03:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC) (Moved message that was posted at a wrong place, MathXplore (talk) 03:46, 2 May 2022 (UTC))[reply]

@Pythoncoder Done PotsdamLamb (talk) 20:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editing news 2022 #1[change source]

Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter

New editors were more successful with this new tool.

The New topic tool helps editors create new ==Sections== on discussion pages. New editors are more successful with this new tool. You can read the report. Soon, the Editing team will offer this to all editors at the 20 Wikipedias that participated in the test. You will be able to turn it off at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

Whatamidoing (WMF) 18:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup cats[change source]

Hello, it's nice to see you around again. For monthly cleanup cats (like ... from June 2022), please remember to use {{MonthlyCleanupCat}}. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 17:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ferien Thanks. I thought there was something missing because when I added anything to the article like use dmy it threw an error about invalid formats. I will keep this bookmarked. And thank you for the kind words. PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:38, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spam warnings[change source]

Hi, I noticed that you warned an editor for adding spam links using {{uw-advert1}} and subsequent higher warning level templates. I want to let you know that there are templates specially used to warn editors for adding spam links - {{uw-spam1}} up to {{uw-spam4}}. However, like {{uw-rfd}}, this isn't in twinkle (though uw-spam1 technically is, albeit incorrectly categorized as single-issue warnings). Thanks. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 13:59, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Fehufanga: They are one and the same so it does not matter which one is used. If you read the spam one you linked it also says advertising. Thank you for your comments though. I appreciate them. PotsdamLamb (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Qubo[change source]

Most of the content was falsified to begin with (the logo in the infobox is someone's invention for a 'rebranding' after it actually closed), and there should not be that much finite detail for a Simple article, nor is an affiliate list needed (most of it was from the en.wiki article without attribution or proper editing). Mrschimpf (talk) 02:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrschimpf Please respond on your page where I left the original message so everything stays in one place and there are no broken conversations for editors following along. There can be a lot of “finite” detail for any article as we work to build up our articles. Saturn started with only a couple paragraphs and was worked by a group of us to build it up to a very large article with a lot of detail. Having a list is perfectly fine as it is historical in nature. I just took an article from one sentence and turned it into a very decent article despite not having a lot to research on based on the facts I was able to uncover. The logo I can see being an issue so I can agree with that. But with the wipeout of all of the content you made it a stub when you could have simplified it down and maintaining it to the basic English language. By you doing this you also emptied out all references and created a blank section so if you don’t have any references I would ask that you please remove the empty references section. I would go the route of simplifying it especially since you have not edited since 2016 and your first action is to remove over 34k characters from an article. Thank you for your time. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:03, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, but this is how I use talk pages on en.wiki, where I have near 85k edits, and rarely venture to Simple, which from my understanding has always presented articles in a simple manner, shortened, and with readable wording easily understood in a manner where things are not complicated by too many details (here details about cable deals are too detailed and unimportant) or things like station affiliate lists. Again, I reverted what was mainly an unattributed copy of the en.wiki article dropped in by an IPv6 without any proper editing to fit this project, an edit itself flagged as 'possible spamming'. On en.wiki, this would be reverted as vandalism, with a warning not to do it again.
Has the mission of Simple changed since then, or am I now mistaken? If this is the reception I get for trying to fix issues which stuck out from the en.wiki Qubo article, I'll probably remain there from now on. Mrschimpf (talk) 03:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also the IP which threw in the en.wiki text vandalized en.wiki with nonsense about another company restarting Qubo out of nowhere. So I feel justified in my revision here, as vandalism is unacceptable. Mrschimpf (talk) 03:32, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with what you said. The mission is the same but we want to expand the articles too. Too many editors just throw one or two sentences on a page and call it an article with no references. So a lot of what I do is go through and fix these and try to expand them. I was mostly curious as to why you blanked the entire thing with that type of explanation. If you could add a couple of references you should be good :) Sorry for any confusion. As far as the talk pages, some of us prefer to keep the conversation on the same page it started just easier to read that way and editors don’t have to go back and forth to read the conversation. I find it much more simpler. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:33, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The IP edits to bird articles[change source]

This IP wasn't actually removing content in their edits to Bird, Neoaves, and Passerine, but they did replace the common name with the scientific name. I agree with your reverts, because the common name is better as a title to the infobox. (This was just a remark, not saying you did something wrong.) Lights and freedom (talk) 01:34, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Correct that is why I did that plus the taxon bar matches which was the other reason. I did them as AGF reverts just to be sure because I know you are stalking me :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not stalking you in particular, just watching recent changes. Sometimes IP's will do something that messes up an article; other times they notice a problem or inconsistency that's not spotted by regular editors. Thanks for catching this! Lights and freedom (talk) 01:42, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No worries! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:45, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Danny Phantom Fanboy Killer article[change source]

Can you help make the article longer

heres the link

Danny Phantom Fanboy Killer 2604:CB00:2612:9100:8495:3995:F7E4:CAD0 (talk) 03:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I don’t do expansions on articles that are copied over without the proper attribution being given to it and with the editor who brought it over doing most of the work. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 05:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why revert my changes on Lisa Montgomery[change source]

What was wrong about my wording? Meanwhile to describe drinking as a way to actually “better handle” the situation of having been raped and abused as a child is not correct and gives a misleading impression that drinking is a good way to handle trauma, instead of a common way to disassociate and harm yourself following trauma. 2603:6000:F042:5B36:4DB4:9EE0:66B8:C660 (talk) 03:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Replying to your message[change source]

Is it not also expressing an opinion on Wikipedia to leave the text as is saying “to better handle the situation”? Wouldn’t following your own preferred rule mean we should actually re-write it “Montgomery began drinking alcohol” etc etc, not expressing any opinion about why and leaving it implicit that the two subjects (her repeatedly facing rape and abuse & her heavy drinking) are related?

I will make that change and perhaps we can all like it better. 2603:6000:F042:5B36:4DB4:9EE0:66B8:C660 (talk) 03:29, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remove this Rfd tag[change source]

Sir, I talk you that is eligible on Santali Wikipedia. Author,Actor etc. Is easily eligible I thinks. I showing many author not have a reliable source.Ex: Maina Tudu, Tala Tudu Sar Sagun (talk) 01:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sar Sagun No I will not. That is not up for debate as the article is in a discussion for deletion, so please keep everything on that page. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Statutory rape/age of consent merge[change source]

Hello. I believe that the articles statutory rape and age of consent should be merged. Statutory rape either means violation of age of consent laws, or if defined more broadly sexual acts against mentally incompetent adults. The latter definition would justify a separate article for statutory rape, but the article as currently on Simple Wikipedia is only about the former definition. RegrettingMistakes777 (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RegrettingMistakes777 This would be better to have the conversation on Wikipedia:Simple talk to get information from all of the community. To me, they should not be merged as one is a definition of what statutory rape is and the other is about age of consent (which in the US varies by state and can range from 16 to 18. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:38, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Black Stallion (movie)[change source]

Hello, I spent 10 minutes cleaning up The Black Stallion (movie). If you still think it should be deleted, please go through RfD. Eptalon (talk) 06:37, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Eptalon Looks good to me. I trust admins for some reason, dunno why. :) I did also fix the broken citation. It had two parameters for the website (url and website) which it didn’t like. Thanks for cleaning it up. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hitler[change source]

I don't remember Hitler advocating murdering Jews in Mein Kampf. I have read the book. Although there is one passage where he talks about twelve or fifteen hundred of them being killed, he appears to be talking about a small minority among them, not the vast majority. I thought that his original plan was to expel them. RegrettingMistakes777 (talk) 02:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[[..._called_for_the_murder???]] Eptalon stated here that Hitler did not call for the murder of Jews in Mein Kampf. RegrettingMistakes777 (talk) 02:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
However, you put in your point of view, including in the edit summary where you stated "I don't believe that Hitler called for their murder in Mein Kampf" located here. That shows a point of view. If you are able to show a reference of where in a point of time he decided to kill off the Jewish population in his life, then it can be changed. I hope that helps you better understand why I reverted your addition. I did it as good faith so you are not in trouble, you just need the reference to prove what you stated you believed as every person has a different belief. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:59, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RegrettingMistakes777 Let's move this conversation onto the talk page for the article where it will be better instead of my talk page. I will copy it over then add my comments. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Move This talk has been moved to Talk:Adolf_Hitler#Did_Hitler_call_for_the_murder_of_Jews_in_Mein_Kampf?—PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:36, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization in term 'south African' in Beit article[change source]

There was no country called South Africa during Beit's life. South Africa was founded in 1910. Before that the region was various separate British colonies with no political connection to each other. So I think that the term 'south African' should not be capitalized. RegrettingMistakes777 (talk) 00:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But it was in southern Africa, correct? Even though they did not have it until 1910, lower case signifies direction where uppercase signifies a territory like Southwestern US, East Africa vs. sw US which would indicate to go to the sw of the US. Does that make sense? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RegrettingMistakes777 I spent some time researching this. It will be South Africa after all. I did do some work on this. I’m reading a book written by a very distant family member and I found a few scholarly journals. If you don’t want to do this article let me know and I’ll move it to my space and work on it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

a:Warning users[change source]

Hi, I'm sorry but I don't know what are you talking about. And really, I don't know what IP or registered user you mean, don't know what "kosher" means or who was expressing their point of view on whom. Sending a final warning as if it were the first is a very basic error, and reviewing my contributions I didn't find that I've done anything like what you say. So please point me where I have done something like that. Thanks. -Alabama- (talk) 21:50, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@-Alabama- I am talking about User talk:2A00:23C7:DC8F:3901:C5E0:3BAF:9FED:CF6F. The first warning you gave them for today was a final warning stating vandalism. The article Einsatzgruppen they had inserted a POV and some of the edits where valid but some were not. Kosher basically means genuine and legitimate. Your reversion is the standard in the edit bar but not on the IPs talk page. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:23, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I had already given the user a level 3 warning as they have made similar disruptive edits before from different IP addresses. SWviewer automatically adds user warnings based on whatever the most recent warning was. — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 22:43, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Fehufanga That was yesterday though and they didn’t edit for a while. I do see your post on AN however you put it in the middle of other posts instead of the bottom :) I am fully behind you. This is why I don’t like SWviewer. Any of the 3 though you should check and see what was already put on the page. Sometimes twinkle and redwarn don’t read it properly and will add it based on the month, which in my opinion and based on admin comments throughout all the VIPs we’ve had I venture to say it’s daily and resets after a while hence the stale message when they stop editing after the warning. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your email[change source]

I got your email. Thank you. I prefer to communicate on-wiki as much as possible, so I am responding here.

As for the user page you mentioned, those conversations there are not recent so I don't think action now would be appropriate. If you see anything further that you think should be reported, you can report it at WP:VIP if it is actual vandalism, otherwise at WP:AN. Reporting at one of those designated places is preferable to reporting on an individual admin's talk page, because you can never know when the admin will see it. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting, especially sister links[change source]

Take a look at some of your changes that I just undid or reformatted. If the sister link boxes appear under the infobox AND they don't appear next to the section they're coded in, then you may need to use the inline forms. What you don't want is sister link boxes by themselves way at the bottom of an article.

Also, adding a defaultsort that just specified the page name isn't necessary. A defaultsort is needed only if the sort key should be something different from the page name. That could be a person's name with the surname first, a version of the page name with diacritics removed, or something else. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:50, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 Ah I see what you mean. Thank you for that. I will check the others after dinner. For the default sort I thought that was on all pages because I see it a lot and it is the same thing as the page name, as if it is an index of sorts. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation pages[change source]

Hey Lights and Freedom & *Fehufangą - I believe one of you creates disambiguation pages really fast. I am assuming you are using a script. If you are, would you be willing to share it with me please? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've never done that. Lights and freedom (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I may have found a script that helps. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:10, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal[change source]

@PotsdamLamb: There is an ip vandal who continues creating pages that give his opinions on subjects or even just says things that aren't related at all. Lallint (talk) 00:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lallint After you have given them a final warning (starting with the 1st warning) you can report them to the Vandalism in Progress notification board for admins to take action. I cannot do anything other than warn them and report them. I also recommend you use twinkle or another tool as your signature is not on all of the warnings you have given them. I will go revert or QD the pages for the moment. If they make any more changes, go ahead and report them as you issued a final notice from what I can see. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm worried that if I added it to the VIP page then it would take hours for someone to actually do anything Lallint (talk) 00:33, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No admins respond pretty fast as there is usually one on line and most probably get an email when the page is updated. I reported them anyways. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:37, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lallint Blocked x3 lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your new template[change source]

Hi PotsdamLamb! May I use your RedWarn yeehaw userbox on my user page? Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 20:08, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hockeycatcat - Hey HC feel free it is on the repository too. No one has to ask me to use them as I put them up there for the taking. If you want any created, let me know and I will be happy to make one for you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving system[change source]

CLOSED:

Archive bots are broken

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I think your archiving system on this talk page is a little confusing. The most recent sections were moved to archive 1, along with the earliest ones (from January 2021). Is this intentional? Lights and freedom (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The bot is broken so the one instant archiver I could find moved them to that page. I just have not moved them yet :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:26, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not change it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No more changes should be made to this discussion.


Condetto[change source]

@*Fehufangą @MathXplore - Hey I wanted to get your thoughts on this. We have Condotta which was created today. I looked up the enWP version and they have a redirect of Condotta going to EN:Condottiero. The articles are very far from even being close to the exact same thing. I think if anything, we should move the page to Condotta (painting) or just qd it and create a simple version of Salvatore Garau re: EN:Salvatore Garau where we can list the artwork(s) he has created. What are your thoughts? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:14, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for checking the redirect at EN. I'm not sure which criteria can be applied for this QD. Instead, I reverted the move I done to the page. Making page for Salvatore Garau is also a good idea. MathXplore (talk) 01:33, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MathXplore I would do a QD as a custom "rational" and then just put in the link to the correct article. Yes the typo is just for you! The artwork piece I would do the same thing and say something along the lines as it a piece of art but the article is completely mislabeled will be put on the artists page when created? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion[change source]

Hi PDL, noticed you were editing. Do you have an opinion on Talk:Gingerwood Drive‎? Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 02:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wait tags on QD'd articles[change source]

Please do not remove another editor's {{wait}} template. If you disagree with holding off on a QD request, you can discuss it on the article's talk page. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

blah PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)\[reply]
@PotsdamLamb: If you prefer, I can make it an official warning instead of a request. -- Auntof6 (talk) 02:55, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 I am ok with the request. Thank you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 02:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Translation: I'm sorry, I won't do it again :) Hockeycatcat (talk) 02:50, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox for Redwarn[change source]

Because of an issue with the way this template was categorizing, and to make the categorization work the same way as with other user templates, I removed the categories from the template and manually added Category:Wikipedians who use RedWarn to your user page. I apologize if that causes you any issues. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 No worries and thank you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:09, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question[change source]

Would you mind explaining why you moved Association de défense des animaux et de la nature? Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 20:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 - I do have a question. If someone creates a page that the entire title is in french, would it be appropriate to move it to the english title and add an aka and use the french name: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_de_d%C3%A9fense_des_animaux_et_de_la_nature
11:24:34 V<Vermont> Yeah, move with a redirect to the English title. That is why. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the normal practice is to leave the name in its native language, at least if the alphabet uses characters like English uses. If it were a language that uses different characters -- like Russian, Greek, Chinese, etc. -- that would be different. -- Auntof6 (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 No worries, I just did it based on the answer I was given by an admin. But on the same token, a title in another language should be switched to english with the main language as an aka in the article. Users who come here should be searching for in english not another language (hence simple english). If they wanted it another language they can search on the relevant wikipedia. (IMHO) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, right. Sometimes I get the different practices mixed up: on Commons, the standard is to leave names in their local language. -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:31, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 No worries, we all make mistakes, we are human after all. Unless you are an AI bot? :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not allowed to talk about that. ;) -- Auntof6 (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:42, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 If you are, I hope it keeps you young, with a great memory, and never aging :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sister project links[change source]

You were doing some things with sister project links. Did you see Template:Sister project links? It puts them all in one box and is used on Beer. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:26, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lights and freedom yeah I’m aware of it. Typically I only add commons but some others I use the sister template. I just don’t come across it to often. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense. The template may have some issues, like when you click on the commons link, some people come up whose last name is Beer. Linking to a commons category is probably better. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:37, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lights and freedom Yeah before I link them I do a preview and then right click and open it another window to see what comes. Sometimes it matches sometimes it needs the cat. The best way though is by using wikidata because when the cat is linked to wd for the Qid the article knows exactly where to pull from. Using WD is a whole other beast. I know some about it but not the best on it but I can navigate and do the different property information. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lights and freedom So fyi as I found out today don’t use the sister links box. It is way to complicated and doesn’t work as it should. Had a discussion with Ao6 about it today as I did a test on Zebra. Just easier to do the one or two as we typically don’t link to anything else. It’s just commons and species in the boxes. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I won't use it. Lights and freedom (talk) 04:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User talk:Auntof6#So another item I need help with Is the discussion. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New maintenance stuff[change source]

Before creating new maintenance templates, categories, etc., please discuss them. Remember that we try to keep things simple here, and part of that means not having everything that enwiki has. Even when we do add new stuff, there is a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that has to change. The template and/or categories you created weren't being managed correctly. You'll notice that I sent one of your new templates to RFD for this reason. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:43, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 Before posting here please wait until I respond to the RfD as I got the notices of everything you did. I would appreciate it. I also find it funny other people can do it and they don’t get these messages from you. It is coming off to me and a few other editors and 2 stewards, all that spoke to me offline, you appear to keep singling me out for whatever reason. I have done nothing wrong except make numerous improvements to simple wiki in article cleanup, updates, stubs, etc. I would sincerely appreciate it if you would stop appearing to be attacking me. This will drive me away and you will lose one of the more active editors of the few who are on here and stay. The RfD response will be posted in a few moments. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:49, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And now I’m also going to add you just deleted all the categories I’ve been trying to populate with the BLPs for July that had pages in them. So I don’t know where those pages went as I just tagged a few which meets the 3 minimum and was tagging more before my email blew up with you deleting everything. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you identify the categories in question, I can restore them once there's something in them. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 I’m going to bed it’s late here and I have to work in the am. I can sort it out later and get back to you. Thank you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:55, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Or I can just check the deletion log and see when pages appear in the deleted categories. Remember that maintenance categories do not require 3 entries. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:56, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6
  1. Category:Articles lacking reliable references from July 2022 has been deleted by Auntof6
  2. Category:Articles lacking reliable references from April 2017 has been deleted by Auntof6
  3. Category:All articles sourced by IMDb has been deleted on July 8, 2022 by Auntof6
  4. Category:Articles sourced only by IMDb from July 2022 has been deleted by Auntof6
  5. Category:Articles sourced only by IMDb from April 2017 has been deleted on July 8, 2022 by Auntof6
  6. Category:BLP articles lacking sources has been deleted on July 8, 2022 by Auntof6 This one may be the right one because I believe it should have the date and this may have put it in the general cat. If it did I’m ok with it being deleted.
  7. Category:BLP articles lacking sources from April 2017 has been deleted on July 8, 2022 by Auntof6
  8. Category talk:BLP articles lacking sources from July 2022 has been deleted on July 8, 2022 by Auntof6
  9. Category:BLP articles lacking sources from July 2022 has been deleted on July 8, 2022
I think this covers a majority of them. Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 09:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'm going to put the template back on the article where I replaced it, and I'll restore all the categories that become necessary because of that. (We don't create maintenance categories ahead of time, so I'm not going to restore any categories that are still empty.) After that I'll be able to point to some of the issues I saw. -- Auntof6 (talk) 09:24, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I have put everything back. Be aware, though, that the empty July 2022 categories will nominate themselves for deletion if nothing shows up in them. -- Auntof6 (talk) 09:32, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 They will be populated I’m sure over the next couple of days at the rate pages get copied over from enWP. Thank you for restoring them back. As far as the link downwards it should be monthly maintenance then the issue by month ie the ones I created for July missing BLP references or only having one source for BLP, is that correct? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 09:35, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what your last sentence is asking. What do you mean by "link downwards"? -- Auntof6 (talk) 09:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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19:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Maintenance and cleanup categories[change source]

Just FYI, not every maintenance category is a monthly cleanup category. The monthly ones are populated by maintenance tags that are added to articles. Categories like the ones about bad parameters or values in infoboxes are populated by templates. The latter are not monthly, and do not get set up with {{MonthlyCleanupCat}}. One clue is that setting up the bad parameter categories with {{MonthlyCleanupCat}} results in stray characters on the category page and bad categories at the bottom. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:20, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6: - I intended them to be only for testing, as I posted on your talk page this morning. But thank you for that information and I saved that command on my notepad. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:23, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you're using a category only for testing, you might not have to actually create it. Although if it remained populated, someone else might create it anyway (it's annoying to leave a populated category redlinked). --Auntof6 (talk) 00:27, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is the thing @Auntof6: for based on what we are talking about on the CAT Talk page, it is from those templates I listed. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:28, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change to Javanesic languages[change source]

Hi, in Special:Diff/8317800 you removed some things in the infobox, including familycolor, fam2,3,4,5, and child1,2,3,4,5,6. Was this automatic or did you do it intentionally? Lights and freedom (talk) 22:14, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lights and freedom The families each have a different color. If you remember, this was one we were trying to fix from an LTA X-wiki. I was going through the template and just following the instructions for it. There is only one color required for the template Template:Infobox_language_family. From what I can tell it is a sub-language of one thing and then it has sub-languages so it was not my intention to remove it and as stated in the edit summary I am not too familiar with it so I kinda assumed that would be read as fix it if I messed up. I was populating the links to get rid of all the errors that were present at the time. However, as I was going through it, I refer you to my edit summary at [this diff] stating we have have an in-depth article article already on it so I let it go at this point. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, this article was made by a LTA but we decided to keep it because it's a real group of languages. It's not a copy of Javanese language because it's a group that includes Javanese and some others too.
  • Just like animals are split into phylum, class, order, family, genus, species, languages are also split into groups from largest to smallest. The largest are language families such as Indo-European, Afro-Asiatic, or in this case, Austronesian. "familycolor" is a parameter for the language family. Depending on what the family is, it will automatically make the infobox a different color.
  • "family2", "family3", and so on are groups of languages that get smaller. For example, Indo-European includes Italic, which includes Romance.
  • "child1", "child2", and so on are the languages (or groups of languages) within the group. So if the article was about Romance languages, the child parameters would be Spanish, French, Portuguese, etc.
I don't think these should cause any errors. Lights and freedom (talk) 22:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
and again I state it was not my intention to remove it and as stated in the edit summary I am not too familiar with it so I kinda assumed that would be read as fix it if I messed up so feel free. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:31, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lights and freedom and BTW, "we did not decide anything" the RfD is still open and it does not look like a full consensus was reached in either direction. So it may need to have further discussion. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No big deal. And yes, the RfD is still open. We'll see. Lights and freedom (talk) 02:22, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lights and freedom BTW it is also not called “Javanesic languages.” It is called Javanese languages. So I did not do a page move either because a lot of the same content is on both articles and going by the official language guides, it is called Javanese language if you follow the hierarchy down as mentioned on the RfD. The word “Javanesic” is made up. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Javanesic is listed as a group here: https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/java1253 Lights and freedom (talk) 03:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lights and freedom My bad I’ll just stop now. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 03:48, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your changes to Shinzo Abe[change source]

You removed {{bio-stub}} from this article. I have put it back. An article is still a biography even if the person is dead. If you have made other similar changes, please do your best to go back and undo them. Needless to say, please don't remove the biography stub template from any more articles unless the article is no longer a stub and/or is not about a person. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 04:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 I have not. I interpreted it as a BLP, even though it was not that way. I won’t do it again as I know the definition of biography. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Why is your talk page archived aggresively?[change source]

Just wondering. Three days! That's far too quick tbh. Maybe 7 is a lot less? I mean, it's up to you, but just saying. SHB2000 (talk) 23:59, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I do not think there is any rule stipulating on when talkpages should be archived. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:44, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) You are correct. Each user can set their archiving parameters the way they want. Shorter times do make it harder for people to find conversations, but 1) everything would still be in the page history and 2) a individual user isn't required to consider the archiving schedule's effect on anyone else. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is no rule, but common sense would make you prevail that 3 discussions die out and can sometimes revive. SHB2000 (talk) 05:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@SHB2000@つがる - I changed it to 7 days. I have always had it at 3 days because of vandalism fighting, on EN, I would get a lot of messages from it and that would fill up the page a lot. That was also prior to all the changes of just being able to follow just one topic and not the the entire page. Hope that helps you! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 05:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! It's just that at times, discussions revive after certain periods of time (including 2 years, but that's not really talk messages). SHB2000 (talk) 07:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well after two years, it should be a new discussion in my opinion. It also helps from people going off topic. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? (Pronouns: He, him, his) 07:08, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't remember any on simple, but here's one that comes to mind SHB2000 (talk) 07:30, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Webb, Iowa[change source]

Something has gone wrong with one of my references, do you know what to do? N1TH Music (talk) 06:55, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@N1TH Music When this happens, it is because a named reference was used (in this case ref name=cen2020/) and their is no citation after the first instance or at all. I do not see any citation linked to the reference in the article. Some other issues I noticed, the census is on the far right of the page, but based on what I am seeing, it looks like you want it to be under a section, so I recommend using a non-sortable table. The bottom starting from the References heading is all messed up. It should be as follows:
== References ==
commons
reflist|2
Category:Cities in Iowa
space
space
US-geo-stub
I do need to go to bed so I will follow up in the morning with you. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 07:20, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

erasure of the word somewhere on Northwestern Bell[change source]

On the page Northwestern Bell the word somewhere was erased from in front of the word between today. Is there some reason for erasing that term somewhere? Can whoever erased somewhere please have the answers clarified? Angela Kate Maureen Pears 11:11, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tropical Storm Angela Using just between is simpler and non-redundant. As both somewhere and between state a span between times. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:42, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Language voting[change source]

Thanks for setting the language vote on Simple Talk. Having more organization should be helpful. Please move French, German, Italian, and Spanish to "removals", because they were already there so they can't really be added (unless I'm misunderstanding). Move Portuguese to "additions" because it wasn't on the list before. Remove "Indian" because it's not a language, Mandarin because it's the same as Chinese, and Filipino because it's the same as Tagalog. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lights and freedom I just went thought the languages listed. Tagalog is an official language of I believe Malaysia. Mandarin and Chinese are different just as simple Chinese and formal Chinese are different. Some languages may have stayed there but to get a correct consensus so that’s why it’s in add and not remove. You can also move Portuguese if you want just copy paste and keep it alphabetical please. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indian was Hindu I forgot to remove it you can take it out. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:21, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some languages may have stayed there but to get a correct consensus so that’s why it’s in add and not remove.

In that case, maybe just have one section for all languages? Right now it's confusing and I don't understand why they're different sections. For example, Dutch and Spanish are both on the list, but Dutch is under removals, and Spanish is under additions.
Other responses:
@Lights and freedom Made one list. The languages I lists all match what was said or the country was mentioned so I went off the official language(s) for that country. We can make it simple and put all languages up there. Lol. Debate solved. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. List seems good now. Lights and freedom (talk) 04:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. May I enjoy my dinner and time with my cat now? Lol Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Language voting[change source]

Thanks for setting the language vote on Simple Talk. Having more organization should be helpful. Please move French, German, Italian, and Spanish to "removals", because they were already there so they can't really be added (unless I'm misunderstanding). Move Portuguese to "additions" because it wasn't on the list before. Remove "Indian" because it's not a language, Mandarin because it's the same as Chinese, and Filipino because it's the same as Tagalog. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lights and freedom I just went thought the languages listed. Tagalog is an official language of I believe Malaysia. Mandarin and Chinese are different just as simple Chinese and formal Chinese are different. Some languages may have stayed there but to get a correct consensus so that’s why it’s in add and not remove. You can also move Portuguese if you want just copy paste and keep it alphabetical please. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indian was Hindu I forgot to remove it you can take it out. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:21, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some languages may have stayed there but to get a correct consensus so that’s why it’s in add and not remove.

In that case, maybe just have one section for all languages? Right now it's confusing and I don't understand why they're different sections. For example, Dutch and Spanish are both on the list, but Dutch is under removals, and Spanish is under additions.
Other responses:
@Lights and freedom Made one list. The languages I lists all match what was said or the country was mentioned so I went off the official language(s) for that country. We can make it simple and put all languages up there. Lol. Debate solved. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. List seems good now. Lights and freedom (talk) 04:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. May I enjoy my dinner and time with my cat now? Lol Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bot requests[change source]

Just be aware that bot requests are usually moved to archives by the bureaucrats at the end of the year. They also shouldn't have archive top and bottom templates on them. --Ferien (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bot requests[change source]

Just be aware that bot requests are usually moved to archives by the bureaucrats at the end of the year. They also shouldn't have archive top and bottom templates on them. --Ferien (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

your bot[change source]

Hi. 2 things to say! 1) I am using someone's laptop now because I sent mine out, it may be because the screen is smaller, but your bot's userpage has a very tiny section which looks funny, I can PM you the image on IRC if you'd like.

2) If it helps you can use my talkpage also to test your bot, I don't mind your bot messing with my talkpage. If you decide to do so, just make sure the policy on Wikipedia allows bots not flaged for trial to run on another user's talkpage. I don't think it can do so, so just make sure.

Thanks Tsugaru let's talk! :) 20:33, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@つがる That is correct, until I can get a flag I cannot run it. I am only doing it on my talk page right now because there is an error on the backend and I am trying to find out what someone changed that is not taking the correct variable of %d which it took last night so I am trying to get to the bottom of it through the developer channels. The page for the bot will be cleaned up once all is done and finalized. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@つがる PS probably the screen until you adjust :) Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@つがる Ok take a look at User:PDLBotArchiver now and tell me what you think? Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:19, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great! Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh I see! I hope the problem gets solved. In the future if you ever need to, remember you can do tests on my talkpage, I don't mind! :) Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also I figured that it was most likely probably the screen, most webpages have problems displaying on the screen lol. The laptop I am currently using may have bad specs, but one thing for sure, it has really good speakers! --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bot requests[change source]

Just be aware that bot requests are usually moved to archives by the bureaucrats at the end of the year. They also shouldn't have archive top and bottom templates on them. --Ferien (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bot requests[change source]

Just be aware that bot requests are usually moved to archives by the bureaucrats at the end of the year. They also shouldn't have archive top and bottom templates on them. --Ferien (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

your bot[change source]

Hi. 2 things to say! 1) I am using someone's laptop now because I sent mine out, it may be because the screen is smaller, but your bot's userpage has a very tiny section which looks funny, I can PM you the image on IRC if you'd like.

2) If it helps you can use my talkpage also to test your bot, I don't mind your bot messing with my talkpage. If you decide to do so, just make sure the policy on Wikipedia allows bots not flaged for trial to run on another user's talkpage. I don't think it can do so, so just make sure.

Thanks Tsugaru let's talk! :) 20:33, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@つがる That is correct, until I can get a flag I cannot run it. I am only doing it on my talk page right now because there is an error on the backend and I am trying to find out what someone changed that is not taking the correct variable of %d which it took last night so I am trying to get to the bottom of it through the developer channels. The page for the bot will be cleaned up once all is done and finalized. Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@つがる PS probably the screen until you adjust :) Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@つがる Ok take a look at User:PDLBotArchiver now and tell me what you think? Da LambTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:19, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great! Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ohh I see! I hope the problem gets solved. In the future if you ever need to, remember you can do tests on my talkpage, I don't mind! :) Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also I figured that it was most likely probably the screen, most webpages have problems displaying on the screen lol. The laptop I am currently using may have bad specs, but one thing for sure, it has really good speakers! --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wuthering Heights (1920 movie)[change source]

Hey. I declined your qd on Wuthering Heights (1920 movie). Unless I'm missing something, I don't see where the copyvio is. The text appears different. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 23:17, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gordonrox24
  • simple version - Wuthering Heights is a 1920 British silent drama movie directed by A. V. Bramble and was the first adaption of the 1847 novel of the same name by Emily Brontë. It stars Milton Rosmer, Ann Trevor, Colette Brettel, Warwick Ward, Cecil Morton York, Cyril Raymond, Dora De Winton and is a lost movie.
  • enWP version - Wuthering Heights is a 1920 British silent drama film directed by A. V. Bramble and starring Milton Rosmer, Colette Brettel and Warwick Ward. It is the first film adaptation made of the 1847 novel Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë, and was primarily filmed in and around her home village of Haworth. It is not known whether the film currently survives, and it is considered to be a lost film.
To me that is a copyright violation as too many words match. The bold is my emphasis. Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 23:21, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gordonrox24 Oh sorry, you can also see it is a c/p because of "Template:BFI" and the invalid cat of "Movies directed by A. V. Bramble" Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 23:23, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • If what is the same is the most basic description of what the subject is, with clear changes from the en version, I don't think it is a copyvio. It's a basic description of the subject. I think we should provide attribution, which is easily enough done. We can remove the template and cats. Still don't see enough to QD in this case. Perhaps re-writing the lede would be a good idea, but it's not overly complex as is. Oddly enough one of the changes, "of the same name" actually strikes me as one of the more complex parts. But overall, feels to me like something we can work with. --Gordonrox24 | Talk 23:48, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gordonrox24 You are the declining admin do as you wish. I just mark it and the admin makes the decision per Auntof6. That is they want it done. I’m working on a bot so it may be in my archives somewhere or in Auntof6s. Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 00:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Absolutely that is true. But declining a QD doesn't mean the admin always knows what the best way to move the content forward is. That is always a community matter and your feedback matters as much as mine in that regard. :) --Gordonrox24 | Talk 01:45, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Contact for dev[change source]

Hi. Stang 13:08, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


You've got mail![change source]

Hello, PotsdamLamb. You have a new email! Please check it at your convenience.
You can take off this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template.

Hockeycatcat (talk) 02:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Read - You don't need to post the ygm I will see it :) Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:54, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My talk page[change source]

Hi, I saw your note on Simple Talk. I don't know if your bot is archiving everybody's talk pages or only some people's pages, but please don't archive mine. Thanks! Lights and freedom (talk) 05:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lights and freedom Your's will not be. It has to have the template on it for it to be archived. That template is at User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo so yours is safe. Should you want it archived at some point, let me know and I will help you get it setup. I know your's cannot be archived anyways due to the notice and I do not need @Operator873 chasing me down :) Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 05:09, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know. Will you also be archiving other types of pages? It would probably help at WP:ST and WP:AN but not at WP:PGA and WP:PVGA. Regular talk pages probably don't need to be archived because people don't use them much. Unlike this page that has 146 archives! Lights and freedom (talk) 05:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lights and freedom It is all across simple. Anywhere that template it. It will remain the same as it always was with no changes. Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 05:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving[change source]

I asked you not to archive user talk pages without permission. You were doing that, so I "tested" the stop button. Please acknowledge that you'll stop doing that and I'll unblock the bot. -- Auntof6 (talk) 05:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Auntof6 - I have a Flag for 50 trial edits. Please see my BRFA, So I am not sure what you mean by saying I needed permission. My BRFA is approved for a 50 edit trial, and now that you blocked it. I have to stop the trial. To answer your other question you just posted I do not think we have 50 pages with the template on it. It was towards the end of the alphabet when you blocked it.
You have permission to run a trial of 50 edits, yes, but you don't have permission to edit other people's user talk pages without their OK. With a change like this, you need to plan for the testing. If there aren't 50 pages with the template, then maybe what is already done is enough. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Auntof6 et al - This conversation has been move to my BRFA since it is related to my bot. Here is the link Wikipedia_talk:Bots#Archiving. Please go there for comments and reading. Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 06:10, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-30[change source]

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Problems

  • Last week, some wikis were in read-only mode for a few minutes because of an emergency switch of their main database (targeted wikis). [25]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 July. It will be on all wikis from 28 July (calendar).
  • The external link icon will change slightly in the skins Vector legacy and Vector 2022. The new icon uses simpler shapes to be more recognizable on low-fidelity screens. [26]
  • Administrators will now see buttons on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. [27]

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19:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Question[change source]

Yea that was the idea I had in mind. Rationale is my talkpage gets little messages, so I just keep it all in one page for now. If it gets too long, I will start another one. Also one page is easier for me to keep track of. Thanks for fixing the template too. --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 22:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@つがる Ok no worries. Bot is not yet approved. I am waiting to see what to do next. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 22:09, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re[change source]

Yes, I didn't intend to hang the conversation (hang as in keep it going too long ) thanks for reminding me. For the script I will add it later on, also am I allowed to use it to test on my own talkpage? --Tsugaru let's talk! :) 02:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@つがる I do not see a reason why. I would make a copy of all of the content first (via the source code) before you run it just to be safe. I have never looked back when I have used it. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 02:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages[change source]

Just a remark. We have so rarely got users to use the talk pages for their real purpose, which is to discuss potential changes to the main pages. When we do get a sensible suggestion on a talk page, let's make sure the obtrusive notice is taken off. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:39, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Macdonald-ross Hi. What are you referring to if I may ask, that came out of the blue? The discussion with Tsugaru or...? Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 06:41, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your request in that discussion for the location of the topic to be moved. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:43, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Macdonald-ross Oh ok. I just didn't want to get yelled at again for yet another mistake I made. That is why I suggested. The topic pretty much moved from that user in particular to a discussion between us. I gotcha ya though. Thanks. Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 06:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Diff/8365468[change source]

Please do not respond to reports saying a report is now stale, or with any other {{VIP}} option. Just let admins respond to the reports so they can be dealt with as easily and quickly as possible. --Ferien (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ferien I have to disagree with you, as #1 was my own report, and #2 when editing the page and clicking on the green dropdown, it explicitly says "Administrators: These are comment templates commonly used to notate vandalism reports that may require special attention. To use, place the template after the submission you are notating (do not substitute!). The main template may be found at Template:VIP.
Editors: Please feel free to use these when applicable to comment on reports. Try to keep commentary brief and remember that, while we appreciate your opinion, it is not final, and administrators are not guaranteed to follow the same course of action as you would.
Note: Where there is a parameter of X, Y, or Z, a specific time period may be indicated. For example:" Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I still see a problem with that. As the template points out, an admin may not follow the same course of action as you would as a non-admin commenting, so the person reporting may note what you've said down, let's just say for example you think a report is stale, the person reporting may act based on that comment and not report editors that should be reported. An admin may ignore your comment and block anyway but the person reporting may not see that, but they have already changed the way they report at VIP. Just creates confusion where one editor said one thing and another editor said something else, but if nothing was done at all, then it would have been dealt with much more easily. --Ferien (talk) 16:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah ok I just won't do it anymore then have it your way Thanks - Da LambTalk to me!Please don't eat da 🐑! 16:24, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Block[change source]

I understand that you have marked yourself as retired, though the comments you made while leaving, (1, 2) combined with other instances of recent incivility (3, 4, and others) have necessitated that this be enforced with a block. I understand it can be difficult to handle disagreements, but resorting to incivility is never an acceptable option. Regards, Vermont 🐿️ (talk) 23:46, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was unaware that they were retiring, and it is a shame that their presence on simplewiki has to be cut short, especially as he had been on here for almost 2 years, as I found PDL to be somewhat of a mentor on simplewiki. I do, however, wholeheartedly agree with this decision, as those linked comments and my own personal experiences with him are unacceptable. If he really did experience what he said he experienced, though, I do understand why he would retire, and I do actually agree that the super mario effect is far too prominent on Wikimedia sites, but the way he handled many situations on here was un-civil at best, and rule-breaking at worst. He also often used Twinkle and other vandalism-reverting tools to revert Good Faith edits, as seen here, here, and here, despite doing so being specifically addressed on the Twinkle rules page. Farewell, Lamb-chops. Lallint (talk) 00:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Start with Wikipedia talk:Bots#PDLBotArchiver and read the comments and the back and forth where PDL was told his bot needed full consensus and when he asked why no one else’s in the admin teams needed to post or get consensus a sysop basically told him FU we are talking about yours not others and different rules apply (of which I could not find any other set of rules to go by). I can see why he gave up and to his defense he did get frustrated at times as I also saw red linked and ugly looking articles and I also saw him fixing those but no one wanted to say good job to him on that especially Auntof6 who I found extremely rude to him and targeted him every chance he got. Sucks he left but maybe it’s better for him mentally to not have to deal with this. I will miss seeing his cat logo though. 2600:387:C:6D15:0:0:0:C (talk) 00:43, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PotsdamLamb, I am so disapponted to know this but I worked with you for quiet few months well and learned some things from you. Anyways take care of yourself. We will miss you. May god bless you :-) DRC (User:TTP1233) (talk . e-mail . contrib) 16:03, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shock[change source]

Hi, PDL. This is not something that I was expecting or wanting to see after coming back from my holiday! In all of our communications, you were being very kind. I hope that you can return someday. All the best, Hockeycatcat (talk) (changes) 15:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2022-32[change source]

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Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 9 August at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 11 August at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

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19:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-33[change source]

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  • The Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia community decided to block IP editing from October 2021 to April 2022. The Wikimedia Foundation's Product Analytics team tracked the impact of this change. An impact report is now available.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 August. It will be on all wikis from 18 August (calendar).
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 16 August at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 18 August at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
  • The Realtime Preview will be available as a Beta Feature on wikis in Group 1. This feature was built in order to fulfill one of the Community Wishlist Survey proposals.

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21:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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