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Simple News Issue 16[change]

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Juliancolton | Talk 21:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Lichen & Rotifer[change]

I'm wondering, a bit idly, whether either or both these shorter articles might be worth putting up for GA. It was you who started lichen, so I hope you like what it's become. Macdonald-ross (talk) 12:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Probably worth a try. Note however, that in the process; many candidates get almost rewritten. I only had a very quick look, though. Personally, I'd look forward to having more science-related articles at GA or VGA status. Yell, if you need help, or want a more indepth review. - All the best. --Eptalon (talk) 17:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, I've stuck in Lichen. I've held off for ages, fearing the time the last one took! We'll see... Macdonald-ross (talk) 18:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Help?[change]

seaweed? --Icek863 (talk) 20:42, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

thank you[change]

--Icek863 (talk) 21:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC) he was bad. 3 monthes might not be enough lol? --Icek863 (talk) 21:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Did you know?[change]

I'll keep an eye open for opportunities. Incidentally, all eukaryotes, even single cells, are in principle capable of sexual reproduction. Some don't, of course, but that is a secondary condition. Regards, Macdonald-ross (talk) 21:15, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Lichen[change]

You night consider goosing up one or two regulars to have a look at lichen over the weekend. It's looking lonely... Macdonald-ross (talk) 17:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

30,000 edits[change]

Congratulations on reaching the 30,000 edit milestone. While edit counting is not always useful, it does show the amazing amount of effort that you have put in the Simple Wikipedia. Looking forward to reading the next 30,000! Best wishes, Peterdownunder (talk) 00:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

WOW! Congrats, Griffinofwales (talk) 00:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Congrats on your 30,000th edit :) Cheers, Razorflame 00:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Congrats. Well done :) -Barras talk 14:38, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

RE:Historical/Cultural Significance[change]

In terms of historical or cultural significance, it’s a different ballgame in the US and Canada versus Europe. In Europe, there are culturally significant cities that are over a thousand years old; whereas most of the cities in the United States are less than 200 years old, and many suburban cities are less than 65. Here is a list of cities solely on the list for historical or cultural significance:

I also tried to include most of the cities that contain major universities. Here are some of those:

Feel free to put this on WP:ST or the talk page for Vital Cities US Canada Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 19:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Microsoft Office 2010[change]

Dear Eptalon, I had made changes on the Office 2010 Page. I am sorry to say that you thought my contributions as vandalism. Please read it carefully, as I think that my changes were a positive contribution to the page "Microsoft Office 2010". — This unsigned comment was added by 161.97.245.114 (talk • changes) at 18:33, February 3, 2010.

I have reviewed your edit. The reason it was removed is because it was illegally copied from the Microsoft website. We do not, and can not, allowed copyrighted information to be added to our site. Thank you! fr33kman 18:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day![change]

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Hi, Eptalon! Thank you for always being very helpful and civil to me despite all differences, and I hope you have a very happy Valentine's day!Classical Esther 06:48, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Courtesy note[change]

There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_checkuser#Justification for checks that you may be interested in participating in. Cheers, Lauryn (utc) 23:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

PVGA help[change]

As I mentioned to you on IRC, this is the section that I want you to help me out with, if you could help me out with that, it would be awesome. Thanks in advance.--   CR90  23:54, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

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Pmlineditor  12:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

A closer look[change]

This is one of my simplifications. I am not here to "collaborate" but to translate high quality literature pages from en.wikipedia. That requires import rights. If other people want to come by, change them, etc, then they can go ahead. If they want to help out, that is fine. However, I made the pages, I have the offline sources, and I and those I collaborated with on en (many of whom work here such as Juliancolton) are necessary to simplify it as we know what the original statements meant so they will not be translated incorrectly.

And to be honest, I've never seen you in recent changes. Nor have I seen you on IRC, yet I have been active in Simple's IRC matters since 2008. Your comments are insulting and reflect a lack of knowledge. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

By the way, a side by side analysis of my last 50 contribs and your last 50 contribs shows that I have edited at a far more denser and content oriented rate than you have. You have made very few edits with most being simple reverts or changes a bot could easily accomplish whereas mine have been highly complex content oriented edits. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I do not think personal attacks are worthwhile. I have spent quite a bit of time editing, and I doubt that edits such as this edit to Effect of the false consensus could have been done by a bot. Note that the change of External Links to Other websites was done by User:Lauryn Ashby. Other articles are Epicureanism, or Atheism (where I contributed a lot). Look in the archives to see that I stopped Atheism's progress to a Good article, since I was one of only a few editors contributing, and that the article is at a stage where a lot of work is needed by a specialist, which I am not. Nudity (contains images of nude people) is in at a stage where it needs references I cannot provide, since this is not my field of study.
I know that my contributions have diminished lately, but when you take the last 50 contributions, please do not take those related to my activities as an administrator/bureaucrat/checkuser into account. I have done Decision theory in one edit; the other edit to the article was by a bot who added interwiki links. Please compare to the article at EnWP. When I look at your contributions to article space, there are 5 edits to two articles (here), so i think my comment might be justified...--Eptalon (talk) 16:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
1. Personal attacks? There were none, so please don't make such claims. 2. That edit lacks citations and contains words that are inappropriate for simple English. Many of your other pages contain the same problems. My translation, however, consisted of 6 hours worth of dedicated work to -translate- in addition to the original work. It is highly cited, the references were rechecked and reverified, and they conform not only to the sentence and grammar rules, but the word list rules and the reading age guidelines. You can dismiss that as much as you want, but a side by side comparison does not make you look good. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
As a side note, I have made pages just like your edit above for almost 2 years now. My IP is known as it is visible on IRC and people have already verified my long term IP editing. As an IP, I created many of the literature and England related stubs. Furthermore, my user space has far more work as I believe in polishing something and getting it to conform to our standards here, including language, before putting it into article space. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

(<-) I do not dismiss that; I know how much work is involved in simplifying articles. I just do not believe in "readability scores". Most of the articles I wrote/ported are related to the "hard" sciences. In this domain it is important to be as accurate as possible. "Programs" (Algorithms) that judge the readability are "easy" to please, esp. if they are based on word-lists and sentence lengths. Making an article use shorter sentences, avoiding "sub-sentences", etc. will probably make it easier to understand. Replacing a word with a different one can have quite the opposite effect. TO my knowledge, Little Red Riding Hood is the article here that scores best with such tests. Albert Einstein's theory of relativity in words of four letters or less Is quite difficult to understand. Now, take the average English learner, and look at how fast the meaning of those "phrasal verbs" changes - IMO this means any "uncompounded" word is probably preferable. "Extinguish" has a fixed meaning, how many does "put out" have? Same game, "raise", vs. "put up"? - All I say is that an automated tool that counts word and sentence length can not develop such "intelligence". --Eptalon (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

My pages deal with severely complex issues and I spend a lot of time rechecking with the sources to make sure I can keep the original intention. Please read the link to The Author's Farce translation (50% done) and realize that it took 6 hours of dedicated work to ensure that it kept to the same quality of meaning and conformed to the source. The page is around 5th grade reading level. That is part of my work. I am not here to become an admin, a crat, to gain power or anything. I am here only to translate pages. The import tool, a tool I have used before, only deals with GFDL matters and would increase my ability to translate. These are high quality translations of high quality pages. I wrote Ode on a Grecian Urn (FA) at en, one of the most important poems in the English language. I wrote many more - To Autumn, Samuel Johnson, etc. All are important literature related topics. I have 37 pages that were FAC ready in addition to my 10 FAs. I also had 42 that were already GA and about 70+ that were GAN ready. If you want to deny me the ability to translate these pages because you think you are a better contributor than me, fine. But I think I have already proven my capabilities so far. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
By the way, I apologize if my tone may be too rough or it may have come off as I am attacking you. My intent was to take your own actions, put them to me, so you could then see that I am not some casual person who can't contribute. My intent is not to tear you down but the opposite. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK[change]

I split up many of the sentences and I tried to reword some aspects. In graduate school, I had a semester with the Principia as one of the works, so I used my knowledge to try and make it simpler. You may want to look back and polish up anything. I would be willing to work on any pages in the future to try and make even more simple if you need any help. Ottava Rima (talk) 02:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

A sweet well-deserved award[change]

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Dearest, most compassionate friend: I hereby award this well-deserved barnstar to Eptalon, who has not only had mercy on Andrew and knew how to forgive (even though the conclusion was sad)! I hope that he may continue such fair judge and goodness whilst he is active in wikipedia!

Also, I'm sorry for insulting you at first about the "dancing around the fire" incident. I was a newcomer and extremely immature at that time, and I hope I haven't offended you! Yours most respectfully and sincerely, Belinda 02:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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GoblinBot3 (talk) 15:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


Minor edit[change]

Hey Eptalon, you appear to have your "minor edit" switch stuck on. I'm sure you know that creating new pages (even redirects) or adding text to Simple talk do not constitute minor edits. Perhaps you have it set to do this automatically in your settings? All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Nudge. You're marking far too many of your edits as minor. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't think Eptalon is doing it on purpose, it seems that he's too smart to do so. Perhaps you can see in your settings if there is such a check on, although there's nothing like that on my setting. Or, look down and below the edit summary there will be a "this is a small change", and next to it a box to check. God bless, Belinda 11:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I have stopped marking omst of my edits as "minor" (no, it was not a settings thing). --Eptalon (talk) 12:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you take a look at the guideline on minor edits. For instance, nominating an article at DYK really, really isn't minor. You know that. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

(<-) Sorry, I reyll need to get out of that habit; thanks. :)--Eptalon (talk) 11:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Award[change]

For more than five years of service to the Simple English Wikipedia, and for making more than 30,000 edits, Eptalon is entitled to a copy of this Book of Knowledge. Peterdownunder (talk) 08:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

This editor is a Master Editor III and is entitled to display this Book of Knowledge with Coffee Cup Stain, Cigarette Burn, Chewed Broken Pencil, Sticky Note, and Bookmark.




Ecstasy[change]

You can break the tablets/pills up into powder and snort them.  — laurynashby 22:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea, I have no experience with this drug. I laso don't know whether sniffing will be better than swallowing. --Eptalon (talk) 22:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:Bgcolor-blue[change]

Hey, PiRSquared17 requested that {{Bgcolor-blue}} be quickly deleted. I'd like you to voice your opinion (keep vs. delete) at Template talk:Bgcolor-blue, since you are the template's creator. Is this template useful to you (given it's only used on two pages) or do you have plans for more use in the future? Thanks! EhJJTALK 16:08, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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en:User:Aleksa Lukic[change]

May you please unblock me, cause I've proved myself well on English Wikipedia becoming a rollbacker? --109.106.249.248 (talk) 21:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Helow[change]

Helow :-) !--86.24.21.30 (talk) 16:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


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Pmlineditor  10:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Illiad[change]

There already is a page at Iliad, which I think is the more common spelling. Should we merge the most useful content from both pages? Kansan (talk) 10:03, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

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πr2 (talk • changes) 16:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Your edits to digital rights[change]

It looks you're plainly copy-and-pasting from Wikipedia. I would recommend at least simplifying some of the new content instead. Sorry. OpenTheWindows, please. 19:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Simplifying a text often means getting (and saving) the original text (Which was to some extent a copy-paste from ENWP. The problem is that what we are interested in is the closing statement of WSIS, and not what EN (or some magazine wrote about it). --Eptalon (talk) 19:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I get it. Thanks! OpenTheWindows, please. 19:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)