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Notability - towns[change source]

I've seen several articles similar to Teontha and I don't see the specific notability of them. Is there some special criterion we're adding in? For example, I've heard that any species of animal is automatically notable. Is there a similar rule for towns? Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Darkfrog24 - Notability Exceptions states Legally recognized, populated places are presumed to be notable. Hope that helps you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:38, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
@Darkfrog24 - BTW I just tagged that article for QD Breaking copyright with a 96.6% violation. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Excellent, PDL. That is exactly the sort of information I needed. I come across plenty of town and village articles. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:07, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
@Darkfrog24 I usually just leave those alone unless it is in an error category. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:13, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Oh, my daily routine on here is to go to the uncategorized articles page and pick something to spruce up, usually by adding sources and categories. But if an article isn't notable, I don't want to bother. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:15, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
@Darkfrog24 The problem you will have with that on towns, is almost all of them are very short stub (i.e. french communes) where it is literally one sentence and a copy of the infobox with cats already. If you really want to research them, have at it. I did come across one this morning in Switzerland that is no longer a municipality as of 1 January 2021. I was going to update data from 2012 and couldn't find the recent information. Looked at EN and they said 'was a commune' so I looked it up and sure as well, no longer. lol PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Filtering[change source]

I am trying to find a way that I can filter Category:Requests for deletion that succeeded so I can do it by year (i.e. 2021, 2020, etc.). How can this be done, as it does not seem to be broken down beyond that and the cat itself is every year. Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 19:01, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: If you want, I can load them up in AWB and sort them, then make a list on a subpage page in your userspace. The list would be in order by year. By the way, when you say "do it by year," what would you be doing? --Auntof6 (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
So I’m looking to just have them sorted by 2020 and 2021. I’m looking to see if they have been recreated to meet any guidelines or if it’s still should be deleted. If they are then get them categorized and add info. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:44, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
OK. So do you want me to make you a list or not? --Auntof6 (talk) 20:48, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6 Oh sorry. Yes please if you would.@Auntof6 PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:48, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
User:PotsdamLamb/Successful RFDs sorted by year --Auntof6 (talk) 21:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6 Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Template Error[change source]

So I can not figure out the category of Category:Pages using infobox settlement with bad settlement type. Obviously it is pretty well self describing, however, when I look at say the Template:Infobox Swiss town it has all of the correct parameters from what I can see when I compare it against the EN versions. Can someone help me figure out why there are 2900 pages that show this error please? Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 05:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah en.wiki has the same error. Its been an issue for awhile. It is likely we both have errors in our templates somewhere. Been looking into it for a few months. -Djsasso (talk) 15:25, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@Djsasso If I am correct, it looks like it is a rough copy of infobox settlement? If it is, why can we not just use that infobox? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Its called a template wrapper. It is using Infobox Settlement, but it adds stuff on top of infobox settlement. The error likely isn't coming from the Swiss town template. -Djsasso (talk) 16:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Help[change source]

I was trying to update the English football updater, but I ended up having to revert all my work because something went wrong. Can someone help me figure out what I did wrong, and if I can restore and fix my edit? Thanks, AnApple47 (talk) 05:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@AnApple47 What were you trying to update? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 05:55, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
The league positions of the teams. AnApple47 (talk) 05:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@AnApple47 Ok I reverted that specific page to prior to your edits (the one you listed above). It looks like there is a different page that you have to go to in order to update them. Let me follow the cookies and I’ll post shortly unless someone beats me to it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@AnApple47 So looking at the coding, it all looks correct. I’m thinking it may be a character limit in the lua.module because it cuts off at a weird place in the coding. If you try just one section at a time, would/does that work? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@AnApple47 test out that template on 2020–21 EFL Championship and see if it will populate correctly. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb um, I don't think that's what the template's used for. I think its used just for updating each individual's clubs position. For example, Chelsea. On a side note, I could create 2020–21 EFL Championship if you wanted. Either way, thank you for all your help! AnApple47 (talk) 06:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@AnApple47 Yeah I saw the changes. { and } will get you every time. Do you want that page? I created it already but it is blank minus a line that says we are working on it or do you have the 20-21 play off pages already?@AnApple47 PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb Yep, {} are brutal indeed. Since I don't know of any play-off pages, I'll try and create the page to the best of my ability. AnApple47 (talk) 06:51, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@AnApple47 This is gonna be a good way for us to learn about setting up game brackets and such. I haven’t done those yet but there is documentation on it. If you want to … and as I was typing this you started so I’ll carry over to the talk page there. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 06:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb Sure, I'll see you there. AnApple47 (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Link a language pronunciation[change source]

I came across an article and this was linked داریوش شایگان however, it would show up as 2 داریوش شایگان February 1955........ How do I correct it so it shows correctly? Thanks. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

What is the page? -Djsasso (talk) 16:53, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Djsasso It is Dariush Shayegan. Please don't do it for me. Please explain to me or point to where I can find out how to do it so I can learn. Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:54, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
It's just using the wrong brackets for the template. Should be {{ instead of [[ etc. -Djsasso (talk) 16:56, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
work for me. I will do that. Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:57, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Djsasso so when I put in ({{lang=fa|داریوش شایگان}} 2 February 1935 – 22 March 2018) it comes up in preview as (Template:Lang=fa 2 February 1935 – 22 March 2018) . Did I miss something? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
It should be lang-fa not lang=fa. -Djsasso (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Djsasso That worked! Thank you! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Bot-creating Wikidata items for new articles and categories here[change source]

Hi all. For enwiki, dewiki, and ptwiki I bot-create new Wikidata items for articles and categories after 14 days, see d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Pi bot 19 for the full info. I would like to do the same here. It wouldn't involve any edits here, just on Wikidata, but I think Pi bot would need 'confirmed' status here to avoid getting captchas. Would this be of interest / any concerns or questions? Please ping me when you reply, as I don't normally watch this wiki. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mike Peel I kind of like that idea. Can you show us some pages and the wikidata information it created please? I think that will give us a much better picture. Thanks, PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:04, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: For most articles, it would create quite empty items like Broomielaw railway station (Q107104175). For biographies, it adds more, see e.g., Alexis Laura Daniels (Q107104185). The aim is to get things started on Wikidata, not to add lots of info yet. I have some students working on a new version of the code that will add more info (and go back through articles that already have items to retrieve info from them), but that's for the future. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Mike Peel Well I like the idea. I would be interested in what others think as they come to the board. Thanks for responding so quickly. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 20:19, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Mike Peel I wanted to ask does it also fix errors between an article and the data? i.e. On a page, we may have coordinates for it, but they may be off from what data has, so it throws an error stating there are coordinates on wikidata, but yet a manual check shows there is. Which would win in this fight, your bot or the page? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 21:27, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: This script doesn't handle coordinates, so there's no fight. :-) If you want, I could also import coordinates though, that's Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Pi bot 18 - this would only import coordinates to Wikidata where there aren't any on Wikidata, so wouldn't cause new errors. I'm also semi-automatedly matching articles with existing Wikidata items at the moment, in those cases I'm not copying coordinates but they could cause errors. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Mike Peel Gotcha. I was thinking about that because I was working on a few articles of areas with no coordinates or the coordinates didn’t match wikidata so I’ve been going in and completing/creating them. Thanks, PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 07:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
I support this idea. @Mike Peel: the bot is already autoconfirmed. --Ferien (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: A couple of concerns:
  • You say create Wikidata items. Many (if not most) articles/pages created here don't need Wikidata items created; they need to be added to existing Wikidata items.
  • If the bot adds pages here to existing Wikidata items, how would it know what items to add them to? Pages here don't always have names that match the names anywhere else.
In case it could affect what the bot does, you might want to familiarize yourself with some of the things that are different on this Wikipedia. I have a list of some of them at User:Auntof6/simplediffs; you can let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:47, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6 I just wanted to point out it would not create anything on this Wikipedia. All the writing will be done to Wikidata. It’s basically mining the information and getting the data updated. Ppsssttt I like that list. Very helpful. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 07:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: Yes, I know how the Wikidata items work. The description says that the bot would create Wikidata items; that would be on Wikidata. It's just that very many of the articles created here are based on enwiki articles, and Wikidata items have already been created for most of them. You don't create a separate Wikidata item every time there's a new article on a different Wikipedia. If you look at a Wikidata item, for example this one for Kamala Harris, at the bottom left you will see all the Wikipedia articles related to that item (or at least all of the ones that have been connected to this item). If another Wikipedia creates an article for this subject, it should be added to that item, not have a new item created. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:05, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: The bot only creates new items, it doesn't match to existing items. There are categories and articles here that don't have counterparts on other wikis, which is what this bot is aimed at. It also only creates items after 14 days - it assumes that if the item was going to be linked to an existing item, then it would have been in 2 weeks after creation, and it effectively moves it into the workflow of people that merge items on Wikidata so it increases the chances that it will end up at the right item in the future. Finally, I also run a separate script that searches Wikidata for matches and prompts me to check if it is a match, I'm working through the backlog at the moment. If there's a place I could put potential matches that others would look through, please let me know - maybe a Wikidata Game if anyone would play it? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: On this wiki, I don't think you can assume that articles will be connected to Wikidata after 14 days, maybe not after any specific length of time. We have a small workforce, so things don't get done as quickly as they might. Also, some of the editors probably don't think beyond this wiki. I know I've asked several times for people to keep up with Wikidata, but with mixed results.
I guess another questions would be, for any given article, how do you know it doesn't have a counterpart on another wiki?
I used to play some of the Wikidata games when Wikidata was new. That could work, as long as people know exactly what has to be done. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: Some examples: searching for Aar Dheel returns no matches on Wikidata, searching for Adam Hollingsworth finds Adam Hollingsworth (Q4679247) but that's a different person. At the moment I'm running through matches myself, but it would be good if others could be encouraged to do so. A game would look similar to the Commons category matching game that I created. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 Comment I try to link to wikidata. Auntof6 has been training me where to place it but I have created a few of the data sets. There was one today I couldn’t like to simple as it hit its max wiki limit. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 08:56, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: No, I've been showing you where to put Commons templates. That's nothing to do with Wikidata links. Also, can you explain what you're talking about in your last sentence? I don't see how it relates to either Commons or Wikidata. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:04, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
sorry it was a mix of two things.
In wikidata the article I was working on was coming up with errors about not matching the wikidata information. I found the corresponding wikidata but at the right where it is linked simple was not there nor would it let me add it. This particular data had a lot of information compared to others and then I click on simple and the page save go back to the page and refresh and the error is gone. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 09:08, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

4 articles demoted...[change source]

Hello all, Jessica Alba, Anna Kournikova, Daniela Hantuchová and Ana Ivanović used to be Very good articles, but after a discussion, the community agreed they were no longer. I have therefore demoted all of them to regular article. Currently, there are two more articles up for discussion, where there is less consensus. Interested editors: please take a look and leave a comment, if you like. --Eptalon (talk) 09:07, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I just demoted these in Wikidata. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:39, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles to promote to good article..[change source]

Hello all, as you might know, there are a few articles, where there is a proposal to make them good articles. Unless someone opposes, I am planning to make Tropical Storm Arthur (2020), Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany, and Least weasel good articles. I will also close Singapore as not promoted. So, if you have any concerns, please leave them at the discussion page.--Eptalon (talk) 09:55, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I have promoted the articles Singapore, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing,Tropical Storm Arthur (2020) and Least weasel to good articles. Congratulations to all those who contributed; also remember: If there are small issues that need fixing, please do. --Eptalon (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany hasn't been promoted yet, there are some odd citation template errors. --Eptalon (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
@Eptalon I will take care of those errors for the Anti-tobacco movement. It is #3 on my list this morning. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Eptalon Give me a couple of days to work on this. I looked at it today and it is a giant mess. All of those errors show different targets and I looked at them and sure as heck, they used the same ref name but they are all different URLs, so I will have to go through and re-do all of the references. I would say by late Thursday or Friday I should be done with it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:17, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

*I am currently working on this* PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I did not have much success in fixing the error, so it will come down to re-doing all the citations. I will work on this some more tomorrow and should be able to complete it. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 23:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
It was just a duplicate reference. Removing the duplicate reference fixes it. Clicking help on the error will tell you how to fix it in the future. -Djsasso (talk) 16:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Main Page/styles.css[change source]

Anyone know the purpose of this page? Nunabas (talk) 14:15, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Nunabas Anything ending in a .css is a cascading styling sheet. In simple terms, it sets the format for a given page. It is the preferred method of stylizing websites over HTML now. Hope that helps! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
However that is in the main namespace, which means that the .css doesnt mean anything nor is it actually a subpage of the main page. Nunabas (talk) 17:35, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Can an admin either delete that page or provide an explanation of what it does? Nunabas (talk) 02:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@Nunabas I can tell you without being an admin that it cannot be deleted. It styles the main page of this Wikipedia and it is transcluded to many other pages. This page is not something to worry about. Why would you even request this to be deleted? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
It styles the main page. -Djsasso (talk) 11:22, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Call for Candidates 2021 Board of Trustees election[change source]

Hello all,

The 2021 Board of Trustees election is coming soon. Candidates from the community are needed to fill the available seats.

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Special Note: At the time of nomination or election, you may not be banned or blocked from any Wikimedia project for a period of 30 days or longer; If you only meet the voter eligibility requirements as an editor: Your first edit must have been before 9 June 2019. Reference bullet points 3 and 4 under topic title eligibility

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me and I will be happy to answer them. Thanks! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 15:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Can I create a deleted page from English main wikipedia?[change source]

Hello There, I am new here and I Have come across a subject who although is deleted on Main wikipedia because back then he wasn't having sufficient sources, But Now I feel that the subject do passes GNG and have sources enough, Can I create is over here or is there any AFC on this wiki where a reviewer can review my creation or help me in getting created few of the articles, as I want to contribute over here as well, as this site have articles but they need more active editors, Thanks Suryabeej (talk) 17:24, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Suryabeej Hi and welcome to Simple Wikipedia. It is dependent on the subject and if it meets our requirements. You can create the page here, but if you go to create it and you see it has already been deleted by an admin, then see the reason why and make sure to meet the requirements. Who is the subject? PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
User:PotsdamLamb Thanks for the quick response the subject is Vivek Verma and since the last deletion on the main english wikipedia now it has reliable sources which I thing passes the GNG you can check this draft out here [1] for an Idea Suryabeej (talk) 17:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Suryabeej We do not have an "AFC" like EN does. All articles are reviewed by a number of people from the admins to new page patrollers, to our very active editors. You will notice we do not have a lot of the same rules or features as EN does, as we are considered a small wiki. Once you create the article, you can always start a discussion on the talk page and put {{help}} on the articles talk page of the article and post here on simple talk the link and you are looking for help. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
User:PotsdamLamb Okay got that, can you have alook at the draft and its sources and tell me if I can create it over here or not ? Thanks Suryabeej (talk) 17:35, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Suryabeej I am going to let someone else answer that question for you. Give it some time for someone to look at it that is highly skilled at the this. It looks like you have some good sources, but as a musician he needs to meet the requirements for a musician. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb I took a look at the requirements for a musician and I feel it does passes this criteria, but still someone more experienced having a look at this will make a more accurate decision, Thus I would request you to connect someone who can have a look at this, Thanks Suryabeej (talk) 17:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Suryabeej This page is watched by a lot of people, so I am sure it won't take long. I cannot ping or bring someone in. They will join if they feel so. I am a 50/50 on the notability which is why I want someone else to help with the criteria on this artist. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb Sure Not a problem, I appreciate your guidance Thanks :) Suryabeej (talk) 17:55, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Suryabeej I think you should be good to go. Please make sure to follow all the rules of Wikipedia and use all the proper formatting. If you try to add to a red link category then that category hasn’t been created. We need at least 3 articles in it for us to create it. As a new page patroller, what I look for is:
properly categorized
Page is wikified
Page name bolded at beginning of intro
important terms linked, even if the links are red
page makes sense
Appropriate number of references. When there are references, a reference section should be included with a hardcoded {{reflist}} template
No links to enwiki articles
No use of any Wikipedia as a reference
Is there an image?
Is there an infobox?
A link to the Commons category, if one exists. even though the last three aren’t a requirement on a BLP I like to seen them because it gives me a great overview. Once it is going and you have it about 1/2 way done, let me know so I can check things and help you correct them before completing it. Since this is a BLP, references need to be published, fixed on a solid platform (not someone’s Twitter, YouTube channel, etc.) They all need to be facts. Lastly make sure to use simple English. If I haven’t already I’ll post a welcome message to your talk page with links for you to go through. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 01:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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@PotsdamLamb Hi sorry for responding a bit late, I've created a draft as per the way you mentioned above please have a look at User:Suryabeej/Vivek Verma and if you feel like it is good to go then you also can move it to the mainspace or lemme know if I need to do that from my end, also there are many red links in the article which I will be creating next so that I can contribute well in regarding the Indian Entertainment section, apart from this, I also found This in Commons which has been uploaded by some some of the users out of which one is blocked so if its okay then only we can use one of these pictures, Rest do lemme know incase you feel like me to change anything into the draft, Thanks Suryabeej (talk) 14:28, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Oops My Bad I can't move it as I don't have the option yet. Thanks Suryabeej (talk) 14:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
@Suryabeej I moved the page. You can find it at Vivek Verma. I have also started the discussion on the talk page location at Talk:Vivek Verma. Let's move the conversation over there and work on the article in parts. Thanks, PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 17:35, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb Sure Thanks, I'll be commenting on the talk page for further discussion. Suryabeej   talk 19:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Georgia (US) vs Georgia (U.S. state)[change source]

Take a look at Category:People from Georgia (U.S. state). Some cats use Georgia (US). Should it be Georgia (U.S. state) or Georgia (US)? Or something different to that? --Ferien (talk) 18:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien When I look at the other cats for states I see Category:Florida and Category:California and they each have subcats under them. I do not see any with US state or anything after them, but then again, this was just a quick search. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: The reason why there is a (US) or (U.S. state) part after Georgia because there's also a country called Georgia so it is disambiguated to avoid confusion. --Ferien (talk) 18:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Ferien Well that can be an issue because there are a lot of cities that exists in other states and some in other countries. Check here for Scranton. :) (I grew up 45 minutes NE of Scranton) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@PotsdamLamb: The one most known gets to keep the main name. For example with Birmingham, there is a pretty big city in Alabama called Birmingham but Birmingham is more populous and from a page views point of view, many more people are interested in reading about Birmingham, UK than Birmingham, Alabama. Back to Georgia though, do you think that the disambiguation should be changed (ie Georgia (U.S. state) or Georgia (country) moved to Georgia)? --Ferien (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Ferien IMO disambiguation page. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 18:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Ok --Ferien (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
In these cases, let's match enwiki. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:36, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Enwiki have (U.S. state). As there doesn't seem to be a consensus against this (like I thought there might be as there were category redirects), I'll boldly move the categories soon. --Ferien (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
I have completed the category work. Note in the US (or U.S.) a full stop is used between U and S for U.S.. However when talking about it in the UK, we say US. I think WP:ENGVAR applies here. --Ferien (talk) 21:10, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Nihongo[change source]

I forgot how to do the Nihongo templates, I did the change here can someone fix it for me? Thanks Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 23:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@つがる Welcome back! I saw your post I hope all is well. Here is the template link with the parameters and how to use it. Template:Nihongo. Typically if you go to the search box and type in template: and the first couple of letters it will pull up everything for you. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:13, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! I will actually need to report back to the hospital tomorrow for an EEG, so I don't know how long they will keep me there for. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
@つがる So it looks like you want Kabuki (Japanese: かぶき)? If so you just reversed your words ;) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 00:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Yea, I guess I did! I'll fix it shortly :) --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 00:31, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

System Default[change source]

Is there a way to change the MediaWiki system default on my end to British English? Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 21:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

@つがる Yes! Go to your preferences (possibly called 'my settings'). On the first tab, scroll down and select the 'More language settings' link. Select 'Display' (should be the default selection). Under display language to the right, click on the box with the three . (i.e. ...). Scroll down to Europe. Select British English. It will then take you back to the first screen with British English selected (it will be blue in color). Then click on the "Apply settings" button (also turned blue at this point) and you should be good to go. :) PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 22:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the help - I have applied the changes. --Tsugaru Let's Talk! :) 🍁 02:55, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@つがる Awesome possum! Glad I could help you! PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 04:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

iframe problem[change source]

I tried to add:

<iframe src="https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/UserProfile:Android_1123581321" style="height:800px;width:500px" title="Iframe Example"></iframe>

into my user page, but I have problems as Wikipedia doesn't support iframe.

Same goes for

<iframe src="https://intel-cpu.fandom.com/wiki/User:Android_1123581321" style="height:800px;width:500px" title="Iframe Example"></iframe>

--Safari 12243648 (talk) 07:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Safari 12243648: Do you have a question, or are you just letting us know? --Auntof6 (talk) 09:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6: iframe usually works on W3Schools, but not Wikipedia. Are there any alternatives to iframe. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC), updated 15:06, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
No, for obvious reasons we don't want you embedding other websites into this one. -Djsasso (talk) 02:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safari 12243648 (talkcontribs) 08:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
For one it would be a copyright violation, and secondly it would essentially be advertising another website. -Djsasso (talk) 14:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
@Safari 12243648: Why are you interested in embedding the user page of Android 1123581321 on Fandom? A user with a similar username, Android 2113853211, has recently been globally locked after editing here and evading a global lock. --Ferien (talk) 14:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah he is blocked now anyway, he was Android 2113853211. -Djsasso (talk) 15:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
However, Android 1123581321 is not blocked on Minecraft Wiki and Intel Wiki (see https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/UserProfile:Android_1123581321 and https://intel-cpu.fandom.com/wiki/User:Android_1123581321 respectively). 164.134.0.156 (talk) 07:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
On Intel Wiki, Android 1123581321 is an administrator and bureaucrat (https://intel-cpu.fandom.com/wiki/Special:UserRights?user=Android+1123581321) and he made 93 edits on Intel Wiki. 164.134.0.156 (talk) 07:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Colors for templates[change source]

Hello, so I noticed a user earlier created Template:Christian_Peoples_Alliance/meta/color and the colors fall outside of ADA accessible for those with vision problems and colorblind. They brought up that Category:United_Kingdom_political_party_colour_templates uses a lot of colors like that. I spot checked a few and they do indeed look like that. I am asking for feedback since this would affect project wide articles. The guideline for colors is at WP:Manual_of_Style#Color_coding and of course VisCheck is still down. For the template I mentioned, I ran it through Toptal Color Blind Filter and those with Tritanopia (red/yellow blindness) see it as a brown box. Thanks in advance. PDLTalk to me!OMG, What have I done? 16:43, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Despite the examples on the page, those templates are never displayed like that when used. The template is just a colour code that can be implemented on a page, the examples are to give context to the shade. When used on an actual page they just show the purple colour (in this case) as a line at the beginning of a row so it isn't really an issue. The enthusiasm is great and all, but I really think you need to cool down a bit on warning users on things when you don't really know what you are talking about. Especially when it comes to putting templated warnings on user pages. Totally understand you are looking to help, but you have some real competence issues that are a bit concerning especially since you have been blocked on en.wiki for WP:CIR reasons. Frankly due to the block on en.wiki and the repeated issues that various people keep bringing up on your talk page you have already violated one strike. I highly suggest just sticking to editing articles and not trying to fix code related things and/or warning other users about things they may or may not have done wrong so that we don't have to actually act on the one strike situation. -Djsasso (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1[change source]

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

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  • Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
  • 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
  • Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Can anyone please have a look[change source]

I've created a draft about this composer User:Suryabeej/Himesh Reshammiya I wanted to know if this is good enough to be moved to the mainspace? Thanks Suryabeej   talk 11:03, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@Suryabeej: My comments:
  • Userspace drafts don't need the under-construction template.
  • It will need categories in mainspace.
  • Except in quotes and proper names, the term movie should be used instead of film.
  • Use sentence case for headings, per WP:MOS#Wording.
  • In the text, there are capitalized words that should be in lower case.
  • Some of the sentences should be divided into shorter ones so that they are simpler.
  • Some of the language could be simpler, too. For example, instead of "He made his acting debut with the film," you could say "His first movie as an actor was".
Hope that helps. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
@Auntof6 Hello and thank you so much for the guidance I have made changes accordingly, Kindly have a look at the draft if its ready to be moved to the mainspace. Suryabeej   talk 13:42, 15 June 2021 (UTC)